"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>> "sf" > wrote in message
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>>> On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:03:29 -0500, barbie gee >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 24 May 2014, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > They're Mormons, so no coffee gadgets.
>>>>
>>>> Mormons don't drink coffee?
>>>>
>>>> What about tea? There's lots of tea gadgets.
>>>
>>> I think it's the caffeine they're supposed to stay away from. Giving
>>> Mormons gadgets for tea instead of coffee would be like giving
>>> Jehovah's Witnesses wine glasses instead of cocktail glasses.
>>
>> Hot drinks are eschewed by Moromns not so much caffeine.
>
> No. It's the caffeine. My Chiropractor is Mormon and he tells people to
> drink hot water with lemon in it.

Even some Mormons are confused. The guy who explained it to me was a Bishop
in the church.

http://www.fairmormon.org/perspectiv...-and-hypocrisy

It's hot drinks as spelled out in their own manuscripts. Back in the day
hot drinks were pretty much just coffee and tea which contain caffeine which
I do not believe they even knew about back then. Hence the confusion today.



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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 25 May 2014 02:15:40 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> It may be impersonal but it is preferable to getting a bunch of crap that
>> you would never use. One of my friends got a crystal server for Ritz
>> crackers. It held a whole roll. Whoever gave it to her either really loved
>> Ritz crackers or got a good deal on it.
>
> Obviously if you suck at buying practical presents, are a moron, or
> are a re-gifter then please - yes - stick to the registry.
>
> -sw

This reminds me of one of the best Spongebob Squarepants episodes ever.
Squidward pretends to dislike Crabby Patties, which is supposedly
impossible because they are an "absolute good" (according to Spongebob).
Squidward finally gives in and tastes just a tiny nibble of a Crabby
Patty and he is suprised to find that not only does he like them, but
he craves them, and must now hide this craving from Spongebob or he
will lose face for falsely proclaiming his distate for Crabby Patties.

Anyhow long story short, if you read Steve's posts with Squidward's
voice they are really, really funny.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Have you ever been to a wedding, Kook? The presents aren't there the
>> night before. You're lying again. Time to pretend it was all a big joke
>> and disappear for a while.
>
> This *was* the norm when I was a kid. Often they were sent to the mom's
> house who brought them (usually the day before) to wherever the reception
> was being held. The bride them opened them in front of everyone. In
> those days, there was no dinner served. Generally there was cake, nuts,
> mints, coffee and punch. There might be a second bowl of spiked punch.
> And if they wanted to go all out, ice cream was served with the cake.
> Used to be that you could get fancy squares of ice cream that had various
> shapes put inside. I had some that had ballerinas inside for my birthday
> party. These were kept on dry ice.

Most weddings I have been to they don't open the gifts until after the
reception is over. When I chose the gift from her registry I also chose the
wrapping and filled out the card. Then the gifts were all delivered by the
store to the bride's chosen destination.

> However, this may have been a Midwest thing. None of the weddings I went
> to here in the PNW were like that at all.

There is no formal rule I am aware of. Some people I hear open their gifts
on their honeymoon.

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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:03:29 -0500, barbie gee >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 24 May 2014, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > They're Mormons, so no coffee gadgets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mormons don't drink coffee?
>>>>>
>>>>> What about tea? There's lots of tea gadgets.
>>>>
>>>> I think it's the caffeine they're supposed to stay away from. Giving
>>>> Mormons gadgets for tea instead of coffee would be like giving
>>>> Jehovah's Witnesses wine glasses instead of cocktail glasses.
>>>
>>> Hot drinks are eschewed by Moromns not so much caffeine.
>>
>> No. It's the caffeine. My Chiropractor is Mormon and he tells people to
>> drink hot water with lemon in it.
>
> Even some Mormons are confused. The guy who explained it to me was a
> Bishop in the church.
>
> http://www.fairmormon.org/perspectiv...-and-hypocrisy
>
> It's hot drinks as spelled out in their own manuscripts. Back in the day
> hot drinks were pretty much just coffee and tea which contain caffeine
> which I do not believe they even knew about back then. Hence the
> confusion today.

Yes. I posted links stating that by hot drinks they mean coffee and tea.

On 2014-05-26, tert in seattle > wrote:

> Anyhow long story short, if you read Steve's posts with Squidward's
> voice they are really, really funny.

ROFL!!.....

Sorry Steve, but it works.

nb

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 May 2014 02:15:40 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> It may be impersonal but it is preferable to getting a bunch of crap
>>> that
>>> you would never use. One of my friends got a crystal server for Ritz
>>> crackers. It held a whole roll. Whoever gave it to her either really
>>> loved
>>> Ritz crackers or got a good deal on it.
>>
>> Obviously if you suck at buying practical presents, are a moron, or
>> are a re-gifter then please - yes - stick to the registry.
>>
>> -sw
>
> This reminds me of one of the best Spongebob Squarepants episodes ever.
> Squidward pretends to dislike Crabby Patties, which is supposedly
> impossible because they are an "absolute good" (according to Spongebob).
> Squidward finally gives in and tastes just a tiny nibble of a Crabby
> Patty and he is suprised to find that not only does he like them, but
> he craves them, and must now hide this craving from Spongebob or he
> will lose face for falsely proclaiming his distate for Crabby Patties.
>
> Anyhow long story short, if you read Steve's posts with Squidward's
> voice they are really, really funny.

Squidward was my favorite character on that show. Reminds me of a couple of
my friends.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Have you ever been to a wedding, Kook? The presents aren't there the
>>> night before. You're lying again. Time to pretend it was all a big joke
>>> and disappear for a while.
>>
>> This *was* the norm when I was a kid. Often they were sent to the mom's
>> house who brought them (usually the day before) to wherever the reception
>> was being held. The bride them opened them in front of everyone. In
>> those days, there was no dinner served. Generally there was cake, nuts,
>> mints, coffee and punch. There might be a second bowl of spiked punch.
>> And if they wanted to go all out, ice cream was served with the cake.
>> Used to be that you could get fancy squares of ice cream that had various
>> shapes put inside. I had some that had ballerinas inside for my birthday
>> party. These were kept on dry ice.
>
> Most weddings I have been to they don't open the gifts until after the
> reception is over. When I chose the gift from her registry I also chose
> the wrapping and filled out the card. Then the gifts were all delivered
> by the store to the bride's chosen destination.
>
>> However, this may have been a Midwest thing. None of the weddings I went
>> to here in the PNW were like that at all.
>
> There is no formal rule I am aware of. Some people I hear open their
> gifts on their honeymoon.

I can't really imagine that as most people go away somewhere for the
honeymoon.

On 5/26/2014 12:49 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>

>>
>> There is no formal rule I am aware of. Some people I hear open their
>> gifts on their honeymoon.
>
> I can't really imagine that as most people go away somewhere for the
> honeymoon.


We did. Our honeymoon was cut short because of weather so we spent the
rest of the time at home. We were also given cash gifts and that was
used to buy some things for the house. I think we put some towards new
carpeting.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
news
> On 5/26/2014 12:49 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>>>
>>> There is no formal rule I am aware of. Some people I hear open their
>>> gifts on their honeymoon.
>>
>> I can't really imagine that as most people go away somewhere for the
>> honeymoon.
>
>
> We did. Our honeymoon was cut short because of weather so we spent the
> rest of the time at home. We were also given cash gifts and that was used
> to buy some things for the house. I think we put some towards new
> carpeting.

Well, I didn't really have a honeymoon. Flew to Reno on Friday and was
supposed to get married then. Didn't happen until Sat. morning. Then flew
back home around noon on Sunday.

Most of the few things we did get to open were not sent until we had moved
into our new house. So we opened them then. I did get a couple of things
prior to the move. I had to pack those with us as the movers had already
picked up all of my things. Thankfully they were small but... Someone sent
me candles. As you can imagine, those didn't survive so well in a cartop
carrier during the summer.

Always floors me that someone would pay all that shipping to ship me an
inexpensive item that I could easily buy locally. I could see a handmade
item or something local to them that I can't get here.

I do sometimes ship common items but I ship them straight from the vendor so
that I don't have to pay a fortune to ship them. Still can't figure out how
so many places can offer free or cheap shipping. The small package that I
sent to my MIL cost me $40!

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 26 May 2014 03:51:11 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> This reminds me of one of the best Spongebob Squarepants episodes ever.
>> Squidward pretends to dislike Crabby Patties, which is supposedly
>> impossible because they are an "absolute good" (according to Spongebob).
>> Squidward finally gives in and tastes just a tiny nibble of a Crabby
>> Patty and he is suprised to find that not only does he like them, but
>> he craves them, and must now hide this craving from Spongebob or he
>> will lose face for falsely proclaiming his distate for Crabby Patties.
>>
>> Anyhow long story short, if you read Steve's posts with Squidward's
>> voice they are really, really funny.
>
> Just how much pot DO you smoke, Tert? You must be a pretty heavy user
> if you have all the Spongebob episodes memorized and rated.

I don't normally watch that show myself and don't even know if it is still
on. But Angela used to watch it and so did my dad. I do remember that
episode well.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On 26 May 2014 04:17:03 GMT, notbob wrote:
>
>> On 2014-05-26, tert in seattle > wrote:
>>
>>> Anyhow long story short, if you read Steve's posts with Squidward's
>>> voice they are really, really funny.
>>
>> ROFL!!.....
>>
>> Sorry Steve, but it works.
>
> Another grown man who even knows who Squidwqard is? At least Tert has
> an out by having a younsgster in the house. What's your excuse?

Hey! My dad watched it. And by choice!

On 5/25/2014 10:00 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>


> Some people *do* do that. I went to one that had a fancy dinner with
> appetizers and a full bar. They put the word out that they expected at
> least $50 per couple as that is what they had to pay for the reception.
> I don't know if they got that much or not.

I've heard that the gift should be at least equal to the dinner cost. I
give what I can afford no matter how simple or extravagant the wedding.

The son of friends of ours got divorced before the wedding was even paid
for.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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> On 2014-05-25 20:54, Cheri wrote:
>
>>>> Methinks you're projecting. Some people have no class and weddings
>>>> often
>>>> bring out the worst in people.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Weddings and funerals.
>>
>> I've never seen it happen at a funeral, thankfully
>
>
> I have. Our neighbour had 13 brothers and sisters. She had taken over care
> of her mother because she didn't want her mother to have to go into a
> home. They have a nice house and a pool and several of her brothers and
> sisters used to spend most weekends hanging around her pool eating her
> food and drinking her booze, but no one wanted to come by when the mother
> was there because neighbour needed some relief to go out and get
> groceries.
>
> The mother had a $100,000 in an account and neighbour was the joint
> account holder and she was to share the money with those 13 brothers and
> sisters when the old girl kicked the bucket. When "the will matured" two
> of the brothers objected and threatened a lawsuit.... over a $7000 each
> ????? lawyer fees and court costs would have eaten up the estate.

All this happened at the funeral?

Cheri

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> "Cheri" > wrote in message
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>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>>> A couple of things that I personally would have liked to get were a
>>> Crock-Pot (I did actually get one not long after we were married as a
>>> Christmas present) and a fondue pot. But... I do like to cook!
>>
>> I always give money, it's never been returned. ;-)
>
> I'm to the point where I prefer that myself. Gift cards can be okay but I
> have gotten some for stores where I never shop and when I have tried to
> shop there, I saw nothing that I wanted. So money works the best. I just
> hate it when the giver demands that I tell them what I spent the money on.
> And then gets mad at me when I say something like... I bought groceries!
> Heck, sometimes you are to the point where that is all that you need. I
> guess people have in their minds that you will spend the money on some
> extravagant thing that you otherwise wouldn't have bought for yourself.
> That's just not me.

I can't imagine asking anyone what they spent the money I gave them on. If
they volunteer that would be one thing, but otherwise out of my hand to
theirs, and their business what they spend it on.

Cheri

On 2014-05-26, Sqwertz > wrote:
>
> Another grown man who even knows who Squidwqard is? At least Tert has
> an out by having a younsgster in the house. What's your excuse?

Two youngsters! What's yers?

nb

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/25/2014 10:00 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>
>> Some people *do* do that. I went to one that had a fancy dinner with
>> appetizers and a full bar. They put the word out that they expected at
>> least $50 per couple as that is what they had to pay for the reception.
>> I don't know if they got that much or not.
>
> I've heard that the gift should be at least equal to the dinner cost. I
> give what I can afford no matter how simple or extravagant the wedding.
>
> The son of friends of ours got divorced before the wedding was even paid
> for.

Yeah. I had a friend who did that. Then she remarried and still expected
presents. That was a cheap backyard reception. And she had the nerve to
say something like... "Well I screwed that up! I'll do it right at my next
wedding!"

Thankfully she sort of disappeared and I never saw her again. However,
another friend stopped off at the store where I was working (I was off on
that day) and said that he saw her with a foreign looking man shopping for
shower curtains and they had a bunch of kids. He said he knew it was her
but she just ignored him.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> A couple of things that I personally would have liked to get were a
>>>> Crock-Pot (I did actually get one not long after we were married as a
>>>> Christmas present) and a fondue pot. But... I do like to cook!
>>>
>>> I always give money, it's never been returned. ;-)
>>
>> I'm to the point where I prefer that myself. Gift cards can be okay but
>> I have gotten some for stores where I never shop and when I have tried to
>> shop there, I saw nothing that I wanted. So money works the best. I
>> just hate it when the giver demands that I tell them what I spent the
>> money on. And then gets mad at me when I say something like... I bought
>> groceries! Heck, sometimes you are to the point where that is all that
>> you need. I guess people have in their minds that you will spend the
>> money on some extravagant thing that you otherwise wouldn't have bought
>> for yourself. That's just not me.
>
> I can't imagine asking anyone what they spent the money I gave them on. If
> they volunteer that would be one thing, but otherwise out of my hand to
> theirs, and their business what they spend it on.

They have even given it to me with the stipulation that I *have* to spend it
on myself. This after I was given a gift card and couldn't find a thing at
that store that I wanted or needed. But... Angela's birthday is about a
month after mine so I bought her something for her birthday. When the giver
asked me what I used the gift card on and I told her, she told me that I
shouldn't have done that.

When I was a kid and someone gave us money, my parents always made us go out
and spend it then write to the giver and tell them specifically what we
bought and that if we had to kick in some of our own money, we were to tell
them this as well. I always dreaded both tasks.

Sqwertz wrote:
> On 26 May 2014 04:17:03 GMT, notbob wrote:
>
>> On 2014-05-26, tert in seattle > wrote:
>>
>>> Anyhow long story short, if you read Steve's posts with Squidward's
>>> voice they are really, really funny.
>>
>> ROFL!!.....
>>
>> Sorry Steve, but it works.
>
> Another grown man who even knows who Squidwqard is? At least Tert has
> an out by having a younsgster in the house. What's your excuse?
>
> -sw

entirely predictable response

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 03:51:11 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>>> This reminds me of one of the best Spongebob Squarepants episodes ever.
>>> Squidward pretends to dislike Crabby Patties, which is supposedly
>>> impossible because they are an "absolute good" (according to Spongebob).
>>> Squidward finally gives in and tastes just a tiny nibble of a Crabby
>>> Patty and he is suprised to find that not only does he like them, but
>>> he craves them, and must now hide this craving from Spongebob or he
>>> will lose face for falsely proclaiming his distate for Crabby Patties.
>>>
>>> Anyhow long story short, if you read Steve's posts with Squidward's
>>> voice they are really, really funny.
>>
>> Just how much pot DO you smoke, Tert? You must be a pretty heavy user
>> if you have all the Spongebob episodes memorized and rated.
>
> I don't normally watch that show myself and don't even know if it is still
> on. But Angela used to watch it and so did my dad. I do remember that
> episode well.

hmm.. I wonder how much pot Angela must smoke

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 03:51:11 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>
>>>> This reminds me of one of the best Spongebob Squarepants episodes ever.
>>>> Squidward pretends to dislike Crabby Patties, which is supposedly
>>>> impossible because they are an "absolute good" (according to
>>>> Spongebob).
>>>> Squidward finally gives in and tastes just a tiny nibble of a Crabby
>>>> Patty and he is suprised to find that not only does he like them, but
>>>> he craves them, and must now hide this craving from Spongebob or he
>>>> will lose face for falsely proclaiming his distate for Crabby Patties.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow long story short, if you read Steve's posts with Squidward's
>>>> voice they are really, really funny.
>>>
>>> Just how much pot DO you smoke, Tert? You must be a pretty heavy user
>>> if you have all the Spongebob episodes memorized and rated.
>>
>> I don't normally watch that show myself and don't even know if it is
>> still
>> on. But Angela used to watch it and so did my dad. I do remember that
>> episode well.
>
> hmm.. I wonder how much pot Angela must smoke

She is anti-smoking.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 03:51:11 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This reminds me of one of the best Spongebob Squarepants episodes ever.
>>>>> Squidward pretends to dislike Crabby Patties, which is supposedly
>>>>> impossible because they are an "absolute good" (according to
>>>>> Spongebob).
>>>>> Squidward finally gives in and tastes just a tiny nibble of a Crabby
>>>>> Patty and he is suprised to find that not only does he like them, but
>>>>> he craves them, and must now hide this craving from Spongebob or he
>>>>> will lose face for falsely proclaiming his distate for Crabby Patties.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow long story short, if you read Steve's posts with Squidward's
>>>>> voice they are really, really funny.
>>>>
>>>> Just how much pot DO you smoke, Tert? You must be a pretty heavy user
>>>> if you have all the Spongebob episodes memorized and rated.
>>>
>>> I don't normally watch that show myself and don't even know if it is
>>> still
>>> on. But Angela used to watch it and so did my dad. I do remember that
>>> episode well.
>>
>> hmm.. I wonder how much pot Angela must smoke
>
> She is anti-smoking.

how about vaping?

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2014 06:32:47 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Just how much pot DO you smoke, Tert? You must be a pretty heavy user
>>>> if you have all the Spongebob episodes memorized and rated.
>>>
>>> I don't normally watch that show myself and don't even know if it is still
>>> on. But Angela used to watch it and so did my dad. I do remember that
>>> episode well.
>>
>> hmm.. I wonder how much pot Angela must smoke
>
> Angela is like 16 going on 11. You, OTOH, are a grown man. And you
> know you're a pothead.
>
> -sw

okay, Squidward - whatever you say

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...

>> She is anti-smoking.
>
> how about vaping?

Oh no! Although I don't think we have actually seen anyone do that. But
maybe we have and just didn't know it. She hates those ads on TV and says
that they mention it frequently at school and tell them not to do it.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 26 May 2014 06:32:47 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Just how much pot DO you smoke, Tert? You must be a pretty heavy user
>>>> if you have all the Spongebob episodes memorized and rated.
>>>
>>> I don't normally watch that show myself and don't even know if it is
>>> still
>>> on. But Angela used to watch it and so did my dad. I do remember that
>>> episode well.
>>
>> hmm.. I wonder how much pot Angela must smoke
>
> Angela is like 16 going on 11. You, OTOH, are a grown man. And you
> know you're a pothead.

She's not 16 yet. And Spongebob might have been a cartoon but it wasn't
really written for kids. Sure, kids could watch it and not pick up on the
innuendos. But adults probably would.

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
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> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 06:32:47 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:
>>
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> Just how much pot DO you smoke, Tert? You must be a pretty heavy user
>>>>> if you have all the Spongebob episodes memorized and rated.
>>>>
>>>> I don't normally watch that show myself and don't even know if it is
>>>> still
>>>> on. But Angela used to watch it and so did my dad. I do remember that
>>>> episode well.
>>>
>>> hmm.. I wonder how much pot Angela must smoke
>>
>> Angela is like 16 going on 11. You, OTOH, are a grown man. And you
>> know you're a pothead.
>>
>> -sw
>
> okay, Squidward - whatever you say

Hehehe.

On 5/26/2014 1:16 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> The mother had a $100,000 in an account and neighbour was the joint
>> account holder and she was to share the money with those 13 brothers
>> and sisters when the old girl kicked the bucket. When "the will
>> matured" two of the brothers objected and threatened a lawsuit....
>> over a $7000 each ????? lawyer fees and court costs would have eaten
>> up the estate.
>
> All this happened at the funeral?
>
> Cheri

Doubtful. I don't know what he means when he says the will "matured".
When the estate was being settled/probated? That doesn't happen at the
funeral.

Jill

On 2014-05-26 1:15 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> Some people *do* do that. I went to one that had a fancy dinner with
>> appetizers and a full bar. They put the word out that they expected at
>> least $50 per couple as that is what they had to pay for the reception.
>> I don't know if they got that much or not.
>
> I've heard that the gift should be at least equal to the dinner cost. I
> give what I can afford no matter how simple or extravagant the wedding.


Nuts to that..... not the way that some women expect their wedding to be
suitable for royalty. The last wedding we went to was for my son's
friend. We bought them some of the crystal glassware that was listed in
their registry. The reception was held at a local winery, and it was
great. I heard from someone else who had been looking around for a
reception venue that the prices for that winery start at $140. Since
they had filets I imagine it was no the bottom price menu. I'll be
darned if I am spending more than $300 for a wedding gift the a friend
of my son.



>
> The son of friends of ours got divorced before the wedding was even paid
> for.

The above marriage lasted three years.

On Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:55:43 AM UTC-4, Mark Thorson wrote:
> My niece is getting married, and I'm currently
>
> thinking about giving the Waring WCT704 toaster.
>
> It has two long wide slots which can do four
>
> slices of regular bread at once, or a couple
>
> slices of crudely thick-sliced rustic bread.
>
>
>
> I don't know whether my niece cooks, but it's
>
> doubtful because her mother doesn't. Therefore
>
> a toaster oven or microwave oven might not be
>
> useful. And they might already have a microwave,
>
> but not a mighty toaster like the WCT704.
>
>
>
> They're Mormons, so no coffee gadgets.
>
>
>
> I gave some thought to a SodaStream, but I can't
>
> be sure that would be used. That's more of a
>
> foodie type item. Same thing for a juicer or
>
> water distiller. For sure, no deep fryer or
>
> sous vide cooker. I did consider a Ronco
>
> rotissiere, but that's probably too far out
>
> of the box.
>
>
>
> A toaster might be the closest thing that would
>
> actually get used. I'm thinking toaster + a
>
> good bread knife.
>
>
>
> I'd like to hear suggestions. Does anyone know
>
> of an unexpected gift that would be spectacularly
>
> useful for a young couple? (Not necessarily
>
> food-related, of course.)

Second the motion on checking wiht their registry. If no ideas there, a check can ALWAYS be put to use, in or out of the kitchen.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/26/2014 1:16 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> The mother had a $100,000 in an account and neighbour was the joint
>>> account holder and she was to share the money with those 13 brothers
>>> and sisters when the old girl kicked the bucket. When "the will
>>> matured" two of the brothers objected and threatened a lawsuit....
>>> over a $7000 each ????? lawyer fees and court costs would have eaten
>>> up the estate.
>>
>> All this happened at the funeral?
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Doubtful. I don't know what he means when he says the will "matured".
> When the estate was being settled/probated? That doesn't happen at the
> funeral.
>
> Jill

Yes, that's what I was talking about when I said "I've never seen it happen
at a funeral, thankfully." I've never been to a funeral where people were
less than cordial, discussing who gets what in the will etc., but I have
seen a fight or two at a wedding, though I blame that on too much booze.

Cheri

On Mon, 26 May 2014 08:41:21 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-05-26 1:15 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>> Some people *do* do that. I went to one that had a fancy dinner with
>>> appetizers and a full bar. They put the word out that they expected at
>>> least $50 per couple as that is what they had to pay for the reception.
>>> I don't know if they got that much or not.
>>
>> I've heard that the gift should be at least equal to the dinner cost. I
>> give what I can afford no matter how simple or extravagant the wedding.
>
>
>Nuts to that..... not the way that some women expect their wedding to be
>suitable for royalty. The last wedding we went to was for my son's
>friend. We bought them some of the crystal glassware that was listed in
>their registry. The reception was held at a local winery, and it was
>great. I heard from someone else who had been looking around for a
>reception venue that the prices for that winery start at $140. Since
>they had filets I imagine it was no the bottom price menu. I'll be
>darned if I am spending more than $300 for a wedding gift the a friend
>of my son.

Why would you feel obligated to give any gift, it's your son's
responsibility.

On 2014-05-26 9:27 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>> Nuts to that..... not the way that some women expect their wedding to be
>> suitable for royalty. The last wedding we went to was for my son's
>> friend. We bought them some of the crystal glassware that was listed in
>> their registry. The reception was held at a local winery, and it was
>> great. I heard from someone else who had been looking around for a
>> reception venue that the prices for that winery start at $140. Since
>> they had filets I imagine it was no the bottom price menu. I'll be
>> darned if I am spending more than $300 for a wedding gift the a friend
>> of my son.
>
> Why would you feel obligated to give any gift, it's your son's
> responsibility.
>


?? Not if my wife and I are invited to the wedding.

On 5/25/2014 4:59 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:

> The Mormons I knew drank Postum as a hot drink in the morning as they
> didn't do coffee or tea.

Our mailman at work was the chatty, friendly type and I offered him some
coffee one day, he declined saying he drank Postum and he had some in an
insulated mug. He said it tasted like coffee and I tried it (still can't
believe I did that, I have no excuse) and he was right, it did taste
similar to coffee, but not exactly.

Becca

In article >,
says...
>
> On 5/25/2014 6:01 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > I think that registries have gone overboard. When we got married (41
> > years ago tomorrow), we registered only the patterns that we had chosen
> > for our dishes and flatware. These days it is more like a kid's
> > Christmas wish list, and they expect everything that is on the list.
>
> A lot of stores/web sites allow you to keep a wish list so your friends
> can get you the right Christmas or birthday gift.

So does Amazon :-(

Janet

On Monday, May 26, 2014 8:46:08 AM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On 5/26/2014 1:16 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>
> >> ...
>
> >>>
>
> >>> The mother had a $100,000 in an account and neighbour was the joint
>
> >>> account holder and she was to share the money with those 13 brothers
>
> >>> and sisters when the old girl kicked the bucket. When "the will
>
> >>> matured" two of the brothers objected and threatened a lawsuit....
>
> >>> over a $7000 each ????? lawyer fees and court costs would have eaten
>
> >>> up the estate.
>
> >>
>
> >> All this happened at the funeral?
>
> >>
>
> >> Cheri
>
> >
>
> > Doubtful. I don't know what he means when he says the will "matured".
>
> > When the estate was being settled/probated? That doesn't happen at the
>
> > funeral.
>
> >
>
> > Jill
>
>
>
> Yes, that's what I was talking about when I said "I've never seen it happen
>
> at a funeral, thankfully." I've never been to a funeral where people were
>
> less than cordial, discussing who gets what in the will etc., but I have
>
> seen a fight or two at a wedding, though I blame that on too much booze.
>
>
>
> Cheri

I know of a son who asked his sister RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CASKET how much was left to divy up. Now, that's noive. Little did he know, he was getting nada. The mother had been shelling out to him all of his adult life and the sister was the one who took care of the old lady, plus was the exec. Fat chance HE was getting another dime.

On Mon, 26 May 2014 09:46:57 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-05-26 9:27 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>>> Nuts to that..... not the way that some women expect their wedding to be
>>> suitable for royalty. The last wedding we went to was for my son's
>>> friend. We bought them some of the crystal glassware that was listed in
>>> their registry. The reception was held at a local winery, and it was
>>> great. I heard from someone else who had been looking around for a
>>> reception venue that the prices for that winery start at $140. Since
>>> they had filets I imagine it was no the bottom price menu.
>>>
>>> I'll be darned if I am spending more than $300 for a wedding gift the a friend
>>> of my son.
>>
>> Why would you feel obligated to give any gift, it's your son's
>> responsibility.
>
>?? Not if my wife and I are invited to the wedding.

What you wrote is not clear, I still have no idea what that gibberish
you wrote means... I noticed that you don't proof read any of your
posts before you hit Send. You made that seem as though you were
obligated to pay for your son's gift.

On Sun, 25 May 2014 13:27:54 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:03:29 -0500, barbie gee >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 24 May 2014, Mark Thorson wrote:
> >>
> >> > They're Mormons, so no coffee gadgets.
> >>
> >> Mormons don't drink coffee?
> >>
> >> What about tea? There's lots of tea gadgets.
> >
> > I think it's the caffeine they're supposed to stay away from. Giving
> > Mormons gadgets for tea instead of coffee would be like giving
> > Jehovah's Witnesses wine glasses instead of cocktail glasses.
>
> Hot drinks are eschewed by Moromns not so much caffeine.
>

12 myths about Mormons — From caffeine to the Bible to birth control
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54...h-god.html.csp


3. Mormons aren't supposed to drink caffeinated beverages

The LDS Church's health code, known as the Word of Wisdom, was issued
in 1833 by Mormon founder Joseph Smith. It condemns alcohol, tobacco
and "hot drinks," which church leaders have subsequently described
only as "coffee and tea."

They say nothing about reasons for singling out those two drinks. Many
members have presumed it's because they contain caffeine and thus
eschewed any beverages — especially soda pops — containing the
stimulant.

The LDS Church recently reiterated its longtime position that the only
barred drinks were alcohol, coffee and tea. That left church-owned
Brigham Young University having to explain why it did not serve or
sell caffeinated colas. "There's no customer demand," school
spokeswoman Carri Jenkins said. BYU students then launched a petition
drive to exhibit the demand.


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:03:29 -0500, barbie gee >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 24 May 2014, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>
>>> > They're Mormons, so no coffee gadgets.
>>>
>>> Mormons don't drink coffee?
>>>
>>> What about tea? There's lots of tea gadgets.
>>
>> I think it's the caffeine they're supposed to stay away from. Giving
>> Mormons gadgets for tea instead of coffee would be like giving
>> Jehovah's Witnesses wine glasses instead of cocktail glasses.
>
> Hot drinks are eschewed by Moromns not so much caffeine.

No. It's the caffeine. My Chiropractor is Mormon and he tells people to
drink hot water with lemon in it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
When Mormons were instructed not to drink coffee and tea, they had no idea
what caffeine was. Coffee and tea were forbidden because they were not
locally produced and thus required interaction with outsiders.

"bhigh" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:03:29 -0500, barbie gee >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 24 May 2014, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > They're Mormons, so no coffee gadgets.
>>>>
>>>> Mormons don't drink coffee?
>>>>
>>>> What about tea? There's lots of tea gadgets.
>>>
>>> I think it's the caffeine they're supposed to stay away from. Giving
>>> Mormons gadgets for tea instead of coffee would be like giving
>>> Jehovah's Witnesses wine glasses instead of cocktail glasses.
>>
>> Hot drinks are eschewed by Moromns not so much caffeine.
>
> No. It's the caffeine. My Chiropractor is Mormon and he tells people to
> drink hot water with lemon in it.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> When Mormons were instructed not to drink coffee and tea, they had no idea
> what caffeine was. Coffee and tea were forbidden because they were not
> locally produced and thus required interaction with outsiders.

Interesting! Thanks!

sf wrote:
>
> The LDS Church recently reiterated its longtime position that the only
> barred drinks were alcohol, coffee and tea. That left church-owned
> Brigham Young University having to explain why it did not serve or
> sell caffeinated colas. "There's no customer demand," school
> spokeswoman Carri Jenkins said. BYU students then launched a petition
> drive to exhibit the demand.

Ha! You don't offer it so there's no demand.

Belief that coffee was bad for you was
widespread in the 19th century. The
Seventh Day Adventists were also against
coffee, and the church backed the highly
successful Battle Creek Sanitarium which
was run by the famous Dr. John Harvey
Kellogg. Kellogg had many theories about
health and nutrition, and he heavily
promoted the notion coffee is bad for you.
He was correct about tobacco, but wrong
about coffee. He was a respected doctor
in his time, and he wasn't too far wrong,
except in the matter of enemas.

He and his brother William Keith Kellogg
invented corn flakes by accident. Later,
WKK left the San and formed his own company
to market corn flakes. He added sugar to
the recipe, which was anathema to John,
but it turned corn flakes from an obscure
health food to a wildly popular new food
category. For the last decades of their
lives, they didn't speak to each other.

On Sun, 25 May 2014 17:13:19 -0400, James Silverton
> wrote:

>On 5/25/2014 5:00 PM, pure kona wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 May 2014 11:03:29 -0500, barbie gee >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 24 May 2014, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>
>>>> They're Mormons, so no coffee gadgets.
>>>
>>> Mormons don't drink coffee?
>>>
>>> What about tea? There's lots of tea gadgets.
>>
>> I have a couple of coffee customers in Utah. I always wonder but
>> would never dare ask.
>>
>> aloha,
>> Cea
>>
>Not all the inhabitants of Utah are Mormons and not all Mormons live in
>Utah. My grandmother was a Mormon and her biggest problem was during
>WWII in Britain when she could not buy a horrible concoction called
>Postum. She used to drink cocoa and worried about that being allowed. I
>was too young to tell her that cocoa contains stimulants and that's
>perhaps as well.

My grand parents were not any kind of religion and they drank Postum
too. I remember the jar on their table. To be fair, it was probably
hard to get real coffee here during the war and probably during the
50s and 60s. (Kona Coffee was not sold around Hawaii much then.)

I rememerb even in the 80s, it was hard to buy flour at our biggest
local grocery store, w/o any weevils. Stuff used to come by slow ship.

Thank goodness for modern times!

aloha,
Cea