"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 May 2014 10:13:34 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I nearly bought one. The saleswoman was soooo persuasive that I took one
>>from her (we were in the wholesalers) and I came to my senses before I
>>reached the check out <g> I just parked it on a shelf. When we reached
>>the check out I saw her heading in our direction and felt really guilty
>>LOL
>>not sure what I was thinking she might do)
>
> I've done that before - changing my mind before I got to the checkout.
> Don't think I've ever regretted it either.

Nor I )

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Oregonian Haruspex wrote:

> K-cups are one step from Soylent.

I remind everyone that this is for use at my wife's work, where she was
not invited to help select the coffee brewing method.

-S-

Oregonian Haruspex wrote:

> Good coffee takes a little time. How long does it really take to make
> a French press? Must we treat something that is supposed to be
> enjoyable like an instant drug? Heck even people who freebase and
> inject hard drugs take a couple minutes to prepare them.

At home, we have a super-auto espresso machine and a French Press. Both
make very good coffee, and in our house, both get my home-roasted
coffee.

But a French Press does take more time and effort than the
alternatives - my wife uses the espresso machine during the week and
only makes French Press on the weekend. We grind the coffee, boil the
water, put them together, then mind the clock for about 5 minutes.
Altogether, I can see why people might not want to do it as they're
hurrying about in the mornings getting ready for work.

Before the French Press, we had a drip coffee maker with a built-in
grinder, a Cuisinart Grind 'n' Brew, which I still think is a good
machine, and for which we got excellent support from the company when we
needed it.

-S-

Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
> On 2014-05-30 09:13:34 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 29 May 2014 22:45:28 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/29/2014 4:07 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 29 May 2014 12:30:17 -0400, "Steve Freides"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> K Cups are "pods," those things that a lot of coffee machines
>>>>>> now accept or use exclusively.
>>>>>
>>>>> Damn. You had me very interested there, with that subject heading.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think he's talking about a Keurig product called "My K-Cup" or
>>>> something similar to that. The Keurig product is refillable and
>>>> reusable. It won't work in all Keurig coffee makers because you
>>>> need one with a removable cup holder. I never could get my "My
>>>> K-Cup" coffee filter to work. The mesh filter was also hard to
>>>> clean. It's pretty much a fail.
>>>
>>> Yup. I was just being facetious
>>> I'd never use those pod things in a million years. They just don't
>>> have any advantages for me, only disadvantages.
>>
>> I nearly bought one. The saleswoman was soooo persuasive that I took
>> one from her (we were in the wholesalers) and I came to my senses
>> before I reached the check out <g> I just parked it on a shelf.
>> When we reached the check out I saw her heading in our direction and
>> felt really guilty LOL not sure what I was thinking she might do)
>
> Last time I was at Sur le Table here in Portland, a lady tried to sell
> me BOTH a Keurig and a Soda Stream. I told her that I don't drink
> soda and that I don't like plastic flavored coffee, and she actually
> frowned at me and bustled away. What a silly bint.

The Soda Stream is a gadget we own. No adult here drinks soda but my
wife likes carbonated water, and she find this very convenient. The
kids have been known to make soda with it, however, but we don't buy
prepackaged syrups.

-S-

dsi1 wrote:
> On 5/30/2014 2:39 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> I make coffee one cup at a time, using an electric kettle and a cone
>> placed over a mug. Inexpensive, takes up very little space, fast, and
>> fresh.
>
> This sounds reasonable. We're not a electric kettle kind of family
> but I guess we could be when we get older.

An electric kettle is a brilliant invention. We've had ours for perhaps
two years and it's great, wonderful for French Press coffee, for tea,
hot chocolate, etc.

Getting older beats the alternative.

-S-

On 5/31/2014 8:53 AM, Steve Freides wrote:

> An electric kettle is a brilliant invention. We've had ours for perhaps
> two years and it's great, wonderful for French Press coffee, for tea,
> hot chocolate, etc.
>
It's also useful when I need to make dinner really quickly. I start
water boiling in the kettle (for pasta, whatever) then transfer it to a
pot on the stove. Much faster than just starting on the stove.

> Getting older beats the alternative.
>
Indeed.

S Viemeister wrote:
> On 5/31/2014 8:53 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> An electric kettle is a brilliant invention. We've had ours for
>> perhaps two years and it's great, wonderful for French Press coffee,
>> for tea, hot chocolate, etc.
>>
> It's also useful when I need to make dinner really quickly. I start
> water boiling in the kettle (for pasta, whatever) then transfer it to
> a pot on the stove. Much faster than just starting on the stove.
>
>> Getting older beats the alternative.
>>
> Indeed.

That's a good idea - I sometimes use hot water from the tap with the
same idea in mind, starting with hotter water.

-S-

On 5/31/2014 2:53 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>> On 5/30/2014 2:39 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>> I make coffee one cup at a time, using an electric kettle and a cone
>>> placed over a mug. Inexpensive, takes up very little space, fast, and
>>> fresh.
>>
>> This sounds reasonable. We're not a electric kettle kind of family
>> but I guess we could be when we get older.
>
> An electric kettle is a brilliant invention. We've had ours for perhaps
> two years and it's great, wonderful for French Press coffee, for tea,
> hot chocolate, etc.

The electric kettle is ubiquitous in some countries. Not so much over
here. The modern induction-heating kettle working on 220 volts is a
really spiffy unit.

>
> Getting older beats the alternative.
>
> -S-
>
>

On 5/31/2014 2:43 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
> Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
>
>> K-cups are one step from Soylent.
>
> I remind everyone that this is for use at my wife's work, where she was
> not invited to help select the coffee brewing method.
>
> -S-
>
>

I used to have one in my small office. I could offer a customer a cup of
joe and have a fresh cup in a couple of minutes. It worked great until
the unit crapped out. Now the customers get no coffee. That's the breaks.

dsi1 wrote:
> On 5/31/2014 2:43 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>> Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
>>
>>> K-cups are one step from Soylent.
>>
>> I remind everyone that this is for use at my wife's work, where she
>> was not invited to help select the coffee brewing method.
>>
>> -S-
>>
>>
>
> I used to have one in my small office. I could offer a customer a cup
> of joe and have a fresh cup in a couple of minutes. It worked great
> until the unit crapped out. Now the customers get no coffee. That's
> the breaks.

My wife teaches in a school - the coffee is in the kitchen (a school
that in what used to be a private estate/home) and people come and go
unpredictably, grabbing something if it's available between classes,
when they have a free period, etc. In that way, the idea of only making
what you need is good, otherwise they used to either have no coffee if
someone forgot to brew it or very old coffee if no one had made it in a
while.

-S-

On Friday, May 30, 2014 4:34:48 PM UTC-4, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
> On 2014-05-30 13:38:59 +0000, pltrgyst said:
>
>
>
> > On 5/29/14, 7:43 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
>
> >>> I prefer either percolator coffee or French press, and to me the French
>
> >>> press seems easier than those k-cup machines.
>
> >
>
> > Well, the liking for percolator coffee disqualifies you from any sane
>
> > discussion.
>
> >
>
> >> I'm with you. I own two Frenchies - one for reg, one for decaf. I get
>
> >> about 60 cups of coffee out of a 12 oz. bag of beans. Try THAT, K-cups.
>
> >
>
> > The point of K-cups or Nespresso pods is convenience, not making the
>
> > ultimate quality coffee.
>
> >
>
> > > Plus, with the Frenchie, I can regulate the heat of the water, the
>
> > fineness of the grind, the amt of coffee and so on.
>
> >
>
> > That's all true, but you shouldn't need to adjust water temp -- there
>
> > is a proven optimum brewing temp, 204 deg. F.
>
> >
>
> > And again, the whole point of pods is convenience. With my Nespresso, I
>
> > switch it on, and it's ready to brew in 25 seconds; it has completed
>
> > brewing in less than another 30 seconds. (That timing is attainable
>
> > even with refillable pods.)
>
> >
>
> > That's under one minute from deciding to have coffee, to sitting down
>
> > with a decent cup. By then, your water hasn't even come to a boil, let
>
> > alone brewed for 3-4 minutes.
>
> >
>
> > Which is why my Gaggia Classic, Jura E750 espresso machine, French
>
> > press pots, etc. are mostly collecting dust these days...
>
> >
>
> > -- Larry
>
>
>
> Good coffee takes a little time. How long does it really take to make
>
> a French press?

After I heat my water to 190 F., I pour a bit into the grounds, swirl for a few secs, add the rest of the water, then busy myself for the next 10 mins.. with bedmaking, ambling out for the paper, a bit of recycling and picking up, and general b'fast prep etc. I don't get the big rush everyone seems to be in.

On 5/31/14, 9:40 AM, Steve Freides wrote:

> That's a good idea - I sometimes use hot water from the tap with the
> same idea in mind, starting with hotter water.

Maybe, but that hotter water contains much less oxygen than cold water,
and probably more flavor-affecting metal contaminants from your hot
water heater as well.

-- Larry

On Sat, 31 May 2014 07:15:47 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> On 5/31/2014 2:43 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
> >
>
> I used to have one in my small office. I could offer a customer a cup of
> joe and have a fresh cup in a couple of minutes. It worked great until
> the unit crapped out. Now the customers get no coffee. That's the breaks.

That's fine, but those insulated carafes are great. Next coffee maker
I get (fat chance - they last so long I finally throw them out because
I'm sick of looking at them) will drip directly into an insulated pot.
If you had two insulated containers, you could have one for coffee and
one for tea.


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On 5/30/2014 7:39 AM, S Viemeister wrote:

> I make coffee one cup at a time, using an electric kettle and a cone
> placed over a mug. Inexpensive, takes up very little space, fast, and
> fresh.

You are old school, S Viemeister, I like that.

Becca

On 5/31/2014 4:00 PM, sf wrote:

> That's fine, but those insulated carafes are great. Next coffee maker
> I get (fat chance - they last so long I finally throw them out because
> I'm sick of looking at them) will drip directly into an insulated pot.
> If you had two insulated containers, you could have one for coffee and
> one for tea.

Ours has lasted 7+ years, so if it breaks, I will certainly get another
one. The coffee is ready when we wake up and it stays hot for hours and
hours. It is a Cuisinart, and I have not been bowled-over by their
products, but I sure do like this one.

Becca

On Sat, 31 May 2014 09:16:19 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 5/31/2014 8:53 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> An electric kettle is a brilliant invention. We've had ours for perhaps
>> two years and it's great, wonderful for French Press coffee, for tea,
>> hot chocolate, etc.
>>
>It's also useful when I need to make dinner really quickly. I start
>water boiling in the kettle (for pasta, whatever) then transfer it to a
>pot on the stove. Much faster than just starting on the stove.
>
>> Getting older beats the alternative.
>>
>Indeed.

I learn so much on this group about minor - yet surprising -
differences between countries. This discussion seems so very odd to
me, because electric kettles are ubiquitous in Australia and have been
my entire life. There wouldn't be a household here that didn't at
least have one in the cupboard (like me). I use a stove top type
kettle, but only because I have a wood heater, combustion and gas
stoves. The electric kettle is just a backup since I moved to my
current abode.

On Sat, 31 May 2014 09:40:56 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote:

>S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 5/31/2014 8:53 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>
>>> An electric kettle is a brilliant invention. We've had ours for
>>> perhaps two years and it's great, wonderful for French Press coffee,
>>> for tea, hot chocolate, etc.
>>>
>> It's also useful when I need to make dinner really quickly. I start
>> water boiling in the kettle (for pasta, whatever) then transfer it to
>> a pot on the stove. Much faster than just starting on the stove.
>>
>>> Getting older beats the alternative.
>>>
>> Indeed.
>
>That's a good idea - I sometimes use hot water from the tap with the
>same idea in mind, starting with hotter water.

That's not what I would regard as a good idea. If you could see inside
your hot water cylinder you'd understand why, especially if you're on
town tap water.

On Sat, 31 May 2014 07:12:26 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 5/31/2014 2:53 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 5/30/2014 2:39 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> I make coffee one cup at a time, using an electric kettle and a cone
>>>> placed over a mug. Inexpensive, takes up very little space, fast, and
>>>> fresh.
>>>
>>> This sounds reasonable. We're not a electric kettle kind of family
>>> but I guess we could be when we get older.
>>
>> An electric kettle is a brilliant invention. We've had ours for perhaps
>> two years and it's great, wonderful for French Press coffee, for tea,
>> hot chocolate, etc.
>
>The electric kettle is ubiquitous in some countries.

It certainly is in Australia. But then, we have 240VAC here, which
helps.

On 5/31/2014 2:57 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
> It certainly is in Australia. But then, we have 240VAC here, which
> helps.
>

It certainly does, Ollie. You'd probably just hate our wimpy household
electrical system. At least ours is 10 Hz faster than yours. It's not
much but it's about all we got over you guys. :-)

On Sat, 31 May 2014 15:13:58 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 5/31/2014 2:57 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>> It certainly is in Australia. But then, we have 240VAC here, which
>> helps.
>>
>
>It certainly does, Ollie. You'd probably just hate our wimpy household
>electrical system. At least ours is 10 Hz faster than yours. It's not
>much but it's about all we got over you guys. :-)

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/30/2014 7:39 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>
>> I make coffee one cup at a time, using an electric kettle and a cone
>> placed over a mug. Inexpensive, takes up very little space, fast, and
>> fresh.
>
> You are old school, S Viemeister, I like that.

lol that is how I make mine too )

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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 31 May 2014 09:16:19 -0400, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
>>On 5/31/2014 8:53 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>
>>> An electric kettle is a brilliant invention. We've had ours for perhaps
>>> two years and it's great, wonderful for French Press coffee, for tea,
>>> hot chocolate, etc.
>>>
>>It's also useful when I need to make dinner really quickly. I start
>>water boiling in the kettle (for pasta, whatever) then transfer it to a
>>pot on the stove. Much faster than just starting on the stove.
>>
>>> Getting older beats the alternative.
>>>
>>Indeed.
>
> I learn so much on this group about minor - yet surprising -
> differences between countries. This discussion seems so very odd to
> me, because electric kettles are ubiquitous in Australia and have been
> my entire life. There wouldn't be a household here that didn't at
> least have one in the cupboard (like me). I use a stove top type
> kettle, but only because I have a wood heater, combustion and gas
> stoves. The electric kettle is just a backup since I moved to my
> current abode.

I use mine pretty much the same way as Shelia.

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On 6/1/2014 7:18 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ema Nymton" > wrote
>> On 5/30/2014 7:39 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>
>>> I make coffee one cup at a time, using an electric kettle and a cone
>>> placed over a mug. Inexpensive, takes up very little space, fast, and
>>> fresh.
>>
>> You are old school, S Viemeister, I like that.
>
> lol that is how I make mine too )
>
I like gadgets (in Another Place I am known as the Gadget Princess) but
if the gadget doesn't work better than 'old school' techniques, the
gadget doesn't get space in my kitchen.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 5/30/2014 7:39 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>
> > I make coffee one cup at a time, using an electric kettle and a cone
> > placed over a mug. Inexpensive, takes up very little space, fast, and
> > fresh.
>
> You are old school, S Viemeister, I like that.

I use this and have done for years. Simplicity to use and clean.

http://www.morphyrichards.co.uk/prod...filter-coffee-
makers/47070-Cafe-Mattino-Filter-Coffee-Maker.html

It makes any quantity from one to a dozen cups with a very useful
automated-timer feature. I use paper coffee filters, finer than the mesh
one supplied.

French BB guests claimed mine was the best coffee they'd ever tasted
in UK and wanted to know where they could buy one to take home :-)

Janet UK

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/1/2014 7:18 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Ema Nymton" > wrote
>>> On 5/30/2014 7:39 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>>
>>>> I make coffee one cup at a time, using an electric kettle and a cone
>>>> placed over a mug. Inexpensive, takes up very little space, fast, and
>>>> fresh.
>>>
>>> You are old school, S Viemeister, I like that.
>>
>> lol that is how I make mine too )
>>
> I like gadgets (in Another Place I am known as the Gadget Princess) but if
> the gadget doesn't work better than 'old school' techniques, the gadget
> doesn't get space in my kitchen.

Yes I know all about you, young lady!!! ;-) I love gadgets too, but only
if they pay for their own keep)



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On 5/31/14, 5:47 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
>The coffee is ready when we wake up and it stays hot for hours and
> hours....

But the flavor starts to go off after 20 minutes or less.

-- Larry

pltrgyst wrote:
> On 5/31/14, 5:47 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
>> The coffee is ready when we wake up and it stays hot for hours and
>> hours....
>
> But the flavor starts to go off after 20 minutes or less.
>
> -- Larry

The flavor of anything goes sooner or later, but it stays around better
and longer using a carafe than it does keeping a heater under it.

-S-

On 6/1/2014 11:24 AM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 5/31/14, 5:47 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
>> The coffee is ready when we wake up and it stays hot for hours and
>> hours....
>
> But the flavor starts to go off after 20 minutes or less.
>
> -- Larry
>
>
Not very much. My wife will drink from a thermal carafe all day.
Coffee on a warming plate will turn to crap rapidly and should be tossed
in about a half hour.

On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 11:24:40 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:

> On 5/31/14, 5:47 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> >The coffee is ready when we wake up and it stays hot for hours and
> > hours....
>
> But the flavor starts to go off after 20 minutes or less.
>
My coffee maker turns off by default after a certain amount of time.
NO, I didn't read the F'n manual so I don't know what the amount of
time is - but it's 60 minutes or less. I used to accuse my husband of
turning it off because he's usually in the kitchen making breakfast
for himself when it happens, but I learned over time that he didn't do
it.


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

On 2014-05-31 18:08:32 +0000, Steve Freides said:

> dsi1 wrote:
>> On 5/31/2014 2:43 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>> Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
>>>
>>>> K-cups are one step from Soylent.
>>>
>>> I remind everyone that this is for use at my wife's work, where she
>>> was not invited to help select the coffee brewing method.
>>>
>>> -S-
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I used to have one in my small office. I could offer a customer a cup
>> of joe and have a fresh cup in a couple of minutes. It worked great
>> until the unit crapped out. Now the customers get no coffee. That's
>> the breaks.
>
> My wife teaches in a school - the coffee is in the kitchen (a school
> that in what used to be a private estate/home) and people come and go
> unpredictably, grabbing something if it's available between classes,
> when they have a free period, etc. In that way, the idea of only
> making what you need is good, otherwise they used to either have no
> coffee if someone forgot to brew it or very old coffee if no one had
> made it in a while.
>
> -S-

That's why one brings their own coffee in a thermos.

On 2014-05-31 18:42:33 +0000, Kalmia said:

> On Friday, May 30, 2014 4:34:48 PM UTC-4, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
>> On 2014-05-30 13:38:59 +0000, pltrgyst said:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 5/29/14, 7:43 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
>>
>>>>> I prefer either percolator coffee or French press, and to me the
>>>>> French>> >>> press seems easier than those k-cup machines.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Well, the liking for percolator coffee disqualifies you from any sane>>
>>> > discussion.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> I'm with you. I own two Frenchies - one for reg, one for decaf. I
>>>> get>> >> about 60 cups of coffee out of a 12 oz. bag of beans. Try
>>>> THAT, K-cups.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> The point of K-cups or Nespresso pods is convenience, not making the>>
>>> > ultimate quality coffee.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> Plus, with the Frenchie, I can regulate the heat of the water, the>> >
>>>> fineness of the grind, the amt of coffee and so on.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> That's all true, but you shouldn't need to adjust water temp -- there>>
>>> > is a proven optimum brewing temp, 204 deg. F.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> And again, the whole point of pods is convenience. With my Nespresso,
>>> I>> > switch it on, and it's ready to brew in 25 seconds; it has
>>> completed>> > brewing in less than another 30 seconds. (That timing is
>>> attainable>> > even with refillable pods.)
>>
>>>
>>
>>> That's under one minute from deciding to have coffee, to sitting down>>
>>> > with a decent cup. By then, your water hasn't even come to a boil,
>>> let>> > alone brewed for 3-4 minutes.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Which is why my Gaggia Classic, Jura E750 espresso machine, French>> >
>>> press pots, etc. are mostly collecting dust these days...
>>
>>>
>>
>>> -- Larry
>>
>>
>>
>> Good coffee takes a little time. How long does it really take to
>> make>> a French press?
> After I heat my water to 190 F., I pour a bit into the grounds, swirl
> for a few secs, add the rest of the water, then busy myself for the
> next 10 mins. with bedmaking, ambling out for the paper, a bit of
> recycling and picking up, and general b'fast prep etc. I don't get the
> big rush everyone seems to be in.

I don't understand it either. I suppose it's the same attitude that
gave us microwave cookery.

Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
> On 2014-05-31 18:08:32 +0000, Steve Freides said:
>
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 5/31/2014 2:43 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>>> Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> K-cups are one step from Soylent.
>>>>
>>>> I remind everyone that this is for use at my wife's work, where she
>>>> was not invited to help select the coffee brewing method.
>>>>
>>>> -S-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I used to have one in my small office. I could offer a customer a
>>> cup of joe and have a fresh cup in a couple of minutes. It worked
>>> great until the unit crapped out. Now the customers get no coffee.
>>> That's the breaks.
>>
>> My wife teaches in a school - the coffee is in the kitchen (a school
>> that in what used to be a private estate/home) and people come and go
>> unpredictably, grabbing something if it's available between classes,
>> when they have a free period, etc. In that way, the idea of only
>> making what you need is good, otherwise they used to either have no
>> coffee if someone forgot to brew it or very old coffee if no one had
>> made it in a while.
>>
>> -S-
>
> That's why one brings their own coffee in a thermos.

Yes, dear.

-S-