I bought a loaf of this huge bread a week ago and made a couple of
sandwiches and needed to freeze the rest. I wanted a grilled cheese
today and took the loaf from the freezer and stuck my hand in and pulled
it out green. There was no detectable mould when I froze it, and had
even made a sandwich with a slice of it just before putting it in the
freezer. The inside of the bag was damp even though the bread was
frozen. I guess this attributed to the mould, but it surprised me since
it's only been a few days.

The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one.
Have you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of
the loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it
from the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags.
What do you think? The mould made my throat close up just from
opening the bag. I have a mould allergy.

Thanks.

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Cheryl wrote:
>
> I bought a loaf of this huge bread a week ago and made a couple of
> sandwiches and needed to freeze the rest. I wanted a grilled cheese
> today and took the loaf from the freezer and stuck my hand in and pulled
> it out green. There was no detectable mould when I froze it, and had
> even made a sandwich with a slice of it just before putting it in the
> freezer. The inside of the bag was damp even though the bread was
> frozen. I guess this attributed to the mould, but it surprised me since
> it's only been a few days.
>
> The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
> separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one.
> Have you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of
> the loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it
> from the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags.
> What do you think? The mould made my throat close up just from
> opening the bag. I have a mould allergy.

Most likely your freezer is having issues and the temperature is
swinging well above 0 during defrost cycles. If not you should probably
call the CDC if you have mold that is growing that much in a week at 0F.

On 5/31/2014 10:51 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>
> Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> I bought a loaf of this huge bread a week ago and made a couple of
>> sandwiches and needed to freeze the rest. I wanted a grilled cheese
>> today and took the loaf from the freezer and stuck my hand in and pulled
>> it out green. There was no detectable mould when I froze it, and had
>> even made a sandwich with a slice of it just before putting it in the
>> freezer. The inside of the bag was damp even though the bread was
>> frozen. I guess this attributed to the mould, but it surprised me since
>> it's only been a few days.
>>
>> The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
>> separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one.
>> Have you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of
>> the loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it
>> from the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags.
>> What do you think? The mould made my throat close up just from
>> opening the bag. I have a mould allergy.
>
> Most likely your freezer is having issues and the temperature is
> swinging well above 0 during defrost cycles. If not you should probably
> call the CDC if you have mold that is growing that much in a week at 0F.
>
I hope the last part is a joke. I've never had problems with anything
frozen but I have to wonder if different places in the freezer have
different temps since you mention this. The bread was frozen solid, it
was just a few minutes after being out of the freezer while I was
getting my other sandwich stuff together before I opened the bag and
pulled out a green hand, and there was definite moisture inside the bag.

I just put some sandwich rolls in there a few hours ago and am watching
for more mold. I suspect I have to take everything out and wipe it all
out with a rag with bleach on it.

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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
>I bought a loaf of this huge bread a week ago and made a couple of
>sandwiches and needed to freeze the rest. I wanted a grilled cheese today
>and took the loaf from the freezer and stuck my hand in and pulled it out
>green. There was no detectable mould when I froze it, and had even made a
>sandwich with a slice of it just before putting it in the freezer. The
>inside of the bag was damp even though the bread was frozen. I guess this
>attributed to the mould, but it surprised me since it's only been a few
>days.
>
> The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
> separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one. Have
> you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of the
> loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it from
> the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags. What do
> you think? The mould made my throat close up just from opening the bag. I
> have a mould allergy.
>
> Thanks.

Wow! I don't freeze a lot of bread but I never had that happen.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 5/31/2014 10:51 PM, Pete C. wrote:
>>
>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a loaf of this huge bread a week ago and made a couple of
>>> sandwiches and needed to freeze the rest. I wanted a grilled cheese
>>> today and took the loaf from the freezer and stuck my hand in and pulled
>>> it out green. There was no detectable mould when I froze it, and had
>>> even made a sandwich with a slice of it just before putting it in the
>>> freezer. The inside of the bag was damp even though the bread was
>>> frozen. I guess this attributed to the mould, but it surprised me since
>>> it's only been a few days.
>>>
>>> The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
>>> separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one.
>>> Have you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of
>>> the loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it
>>> from the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags.
>>> What do you think? The mould made my throat close up just from
>>> opening the bag. I have a mould allergy.
>>
>> Most likely your freezer is having issues and the temperature is
>> swinging well above 0 during defrost cycles. If not you should probably
>> call the CDC if you have mold that is growing that much in a week at 0F.
>>
> I hope the last part is a joke. I've never had problems with anything
> frozen but I have to wonder if different places in the freezer have
> different temps since you mention this. The bread was frozen solid, it was
> just a few minutes after being out of the freezer while I was getting my
> other sandwich stuff together before I opened the bag and pulled out a
> green hand, and there was definite moisture inside the bag.
>
> I just put some sandwich rolls in there a few hours ago and am watching
> for more mold. I suspect I have to take everything out and wipe it all out
> with a rag with bleach on it.

The top part of my side by side can at times get not as cold as the rest. I
have learned not to put small things or ice cream or Popsicles up there.
They'll thaw out.

On Sat, 31 May 2014 23:12:48 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> On 5/31/2014 10:51 PM, Pete C. wrote:
> >
> > Cheryl wrote:
> >>
> >> I bought a loaf of this huge bread a week ago and made a couple of
> >> sandwiches and needed to freeze the rest. I wanted a grilled cheese
> >> today and took the loaf from the freezer and stuck my hand in and pulled
> >> it out green. There was no detectable mould when I froze it, and had
> >> even made a sandwich with a slice of it just before putting it in the
> >> freezer. The inside of the bag was damp even though the bread was
> >> frozen. I guess this attributed to the mould, but it surprised me since
> >> it's only been a few days.
> >>
> >> The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
> >> separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one.
> >> Have you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of
> >> the loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it
> >> from the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags.
> >> What do you think? The mould made my throat close up just from
> >> opening the bag. I have a mould allergy.

I can understand what he's saying. There's definitely a problem that
needs to be discovered.
> >
> > Most likely your freezer is having issues and the temperature is
> > swinging well above 0 during defrost cycles. If not you should probably
> > call the CDC if you have mold that is growing that much in a week at 0F.
> >
> I hope the last part is a joke. I've never had problems with anything
> frozen but I have to wonder if different places in the freezer have
> different temps since you mention this. The bread was frozen solid, it
> was just a few minutes after being out of the freezer while I was
> getting my other sandwich stuff together before I opened the bag and
> pulled out a green hand, and there was definite moisture inside the bag.
>
> I just put some sandwich rolls in there a few hours ago and am watching
> for more mold. I suspect I have to take everything out and wipe it all
> out with a rag with bleach on it.



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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> I bought a loaf of this huge bread a week ago and made a couple of
> sandwiches and needed to freeze the rest. I wanted a grilled cheese today
> and took the loaf from the freezer and stuck my hand in and pulled it out
> green. There was no detectable mould when I froze it, and had even made a
> sandwich with a slice of it just before putting it in the freezer. The
> inside of the bag was damp even though the bread was frozen. I guess this
> attributed to the mould, but it surprised me since it's only been a few
> days.
>
> The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
> separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one. Have
> you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of the
> loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it from
> the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags. What do
> you think? The mould made my throat close up just from opening the bag. I
> have a mould allergy.

I have never, in all the years I've had freezers, known anything to get
mouldy while frozen. Your freezer is not keeping its contents frozen.


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On 6/1/2014 7:24 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> eb.com...
>> I bought a loaf of this huge bread a week ago and made a couple of
>> sandwiches and needed to freeze the rest. I wanted a grilled cheese
>> today
>> and took the loaf from the freezer and stuck my hand in and pulled it out
>> green. There was no detectable mould when I froze it, and had even
>> made a
>> sandwich with a slice of it just before putting it in the freezer. The
>> inside of the bag was damp even though the bread was frozen. I guess
>> this
>> attributed to the mould, but it surprised me since it's only been a few
>> days.
>>
>> The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
>> separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one. Have
>> you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of the
>> loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it from
>> the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags.
>> What do
>> you think? The mould made my throat close up just from opening the
>> bag. I
>> have a mould allergy.
>
> I have never, in all the years I've had freezers, known anything to get
> mouldy while frozen. Your freezer is not keeping its contents frozen.
>
>
I agree, there must be something wrong with the freezer. I freeze bread
all the time and have never had a loaf get mouldy.

Jill

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> The top part of my side by side can at times get not as cold as the rest. I
> have learned not to put small things or ice cream or Popsicles up there.
> They'll thaw out.

Cold air falls so bottom of a side by side will always get the works.
On an over the fridge freezer compartment, things nearer the door will
get some warm every time you open the freezer. Things in the back will
stay colder.

G.

sf wrote:
>
> Cheryl wrote:
> > >> The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
> > >> separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one.
> > >> Have you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of
> > >> the loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it
> > >> from the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags.
> > >> What do you think? The mould made my throat close up just from
> > >> opening the bag. I have a mould allergy.


> I can understand what he's saying. There's definitely a problem that
> needs to be discovered.

First of all...if Cheryl is "he," like you said, that would definitely
be a problem that needs some defining. ehheeh oK...I know it was a
typo.

IMO, the mold spores were in the bread package. If she put it near the
freezer opening, it could have warmed up a bit each time the door was
opened. And then there is the warmup defrosting cycle. It's a strange
occurence regardless.

G.

On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 11:19:59 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > Cheryl wrote:
> > > >> The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
> > > >> separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one.
> > > >> Have you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of
> > > >> the loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it
> > > >> from the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags.
> > > >> What do you think? The mould made my throat close up just from
> > > >> opening the bag. I have a mould allergy.
>
>
> > I can understand what he's saying. There's definitely a problem that
> > needs to be discovered.
>
> First of all...if Cheryl is "he," like you said, that would definitely
> be a problem that needs some defining. ehheeh oK...I know it was a
> typo.

It wasn't a typo. "He" is Pete C. but you eliminated his reply in
yours.
>
> IMO, the mold spores were in the bread package. If she put it near the
> freezer opening, it could have warmed up a bit each time the door was
> opened. And then there is the warmup defrosting cycle. It's a strange
> occurence regardless.
>
Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
is constantly running.



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"Cheryl" wrote in message
eb.com...

I bought a loaf of this huge bread a week ago and made a couple of
sandwiches and needed to freeze the rest. I wanted a grilled cheese
today and took the loaf from the freezer and stuck my hand in and pulled
it out green. There was no detectable mould when I froze it, and had
even made a sandwich with a slice of it just before putting it in the
freezer. The inside of the bag was damp even though the bread was
frozen. I guess this attributed to the mould, but it surprised me since
it's only been a few days.

The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one.
Have you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of
the loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it
from the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags.
What do you think? The mould made my throat close up just from
opening the bag. I have a mould allergy.

Thanks.

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Cheryl

~~~~~~~
This does sound like a freezer problem. I have never had that happen, and I
have not seen references to similar problems. I do keep a clear plastic
container in the freezer (top shelf, since that supposedly is the warmest
area) filled with ice cubes. That is my "unscientific" method of showing if
electricity has gone--if the cubes melt, or even if they "blend together," I
would take that as a warning. I have done this ever since I had a power
failure when I was on vacation.

MaryL

"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheryl" wrote in message
> eb.com...
>
> I bought a loaf of this huge bread a week ago and made a couple of
> sandwiches and needed to freeze the rest. I wanted a grilled cheese
> today and took the loaf from the freezer and stuck my hand in and pulled
> it out green. There was no detectable mould when I froze it, and had
> even made a sandwich with a slice of it just before putting it in the
> freezer. The inside of the bag was damp even though the bread was
> frozen. I guess this attributed to the mould, but it surprised me since
> it's only been a few days.
>
> The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
> separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one.
> Have you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of
> the loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it
> from the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags.
> What do you think? The mould made my throat close up just from
> opening the bag. I have a mould allergy.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
> Cheryl
>
> ~~~~~~~
> This does sound like a freezer problem. I have never had that happen, and
> I have not seen references to similar problems. I do keep a clear plastic
> container in the freezer (top shelf, since that supposedly is the warmest
> area) filled with ice cubes. That is my "unscientific" method of showing
> if electricity has gone--if the cubes melt, or even if they "blend
> together," I would take that as a warning. I have done this ever since I
> had a power failure when I was on vacation.

That is my method also.

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sf wrote:
>
> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
> is constantly running.

Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
hours in the past.

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> The top part of my side by side can at times get not as cold as the rest.
>> I
>> have learned not to put small things or ice cream or Popsicles up there.
>> They'll thaw out.
>
> Cold air falls so bottom of a side by side will always get the works.
> On an over the fridge freezer compartment, things nearer the door will
> get some warm every time you open the freezer. Things in the back will
> stay colder.

That must be why they put the bin down there. I put small frozen treats
down there now.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> sf wrote:
>>
>> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
>> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
>> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
>> is constantly running.
>
> Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
> to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
> hours in the past.

Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge handle. You
have to make sure to push the door shut. If you just fling it as some here
in this house do, it won't necessarily shut all the way. The towel can sway
and keep it from shutting.

On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:22:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
>>> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
>>> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
>>> is constantly running.
>>
>> Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
>> to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
>> hours in the past.
>
>Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge handle. You
>have to make sure to push the door shut. If you just fling it as some here
>in this house do, it won't necessarily shut all the way. The towel can sway
>and keep it from shutting.

Just gotta adjust the levelers so the front is high enough so the door
closes by itself (gravity).

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:22:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gary" > wrote in message
...
>>> sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
>>>> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
>>>> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
>>>> is constantly running.
>>>
>>> Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
>>> to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
>>> hours in the past.
>>
>>Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge handle.
>>You
>>have to make sure to push the door shut. If you just fling it as some
>>here
>>in this house do, it won't necessarily shut all the way. The towel can
>>sway
>>and keep it from shutting.
>
> Just gotta adjust the levelers so the front is high enough so the door
> closes by itself (gravity).

I noticed a recent problem that the fridge door is tending to stick open.
The door is overloaded with stuff which could be the problem. I would have
no clue how to adjust the levelers and the fridge weighs a ton even when
empty.

I was very surprised when we did the wallpaper stripping at my mom's house
how you could just move her fridge all over the place with no effort at all.
Not so with this beast! You have to remove about half of the contents then
push or pull with all your might.

On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 12:59:10 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
> > accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
> > not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
> > is constantly running.
>
> Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
> to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
> hours in the past.
>
Have you ever use the Vaseline trick on your seals to extend their
life? It's a way to keep them "subtitle" longer (those suckers are
super expensive to replace, so I'm all over any way not to bite the
bullet). After you apply Vaseline to the seals, they have a super
stick to them (you have to really tug to open the door) but don't do
what most people do and touch them... if touch/texture could be even a
remotely possible negative for you - it is has a disgusting YUCK
factor to it, beware. It feels like sticky slime.


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On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:22:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > sf wrote:
> >>
> >> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
> >> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
> >> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
> >> is constantly running.
> >
> > Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
> > to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
> > hours in the past.
>
> Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge handle. You
> have to make sure to push the door shut. If you just fling it as some here
> in this house do, it won't necessarily shut all the way. The towel can sway
> and keep it from shutting.

I keep my towels on my dishwasher and my oven handles.


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On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 10:53:50 -0500, "MaryL"
> wrote:

> upposedly is the warmest
> area) filled with ice cubes. That is my "unscientific" method of showing if
> electricity has gone--if the cubes melt, or even if they "blend together," I
> would take that as a warning.

Good idea!


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:22:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > sf wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
>> >> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
>> >> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
>> >> is constantly running.
>> >
>> > Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
>> > to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
>> > hours in the past.
>>
>> Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge handle.
>> You
>> have to make sure to push the door shut. If you just fling it as some
>> here
>> in this house do, it won't necessarily shut all the way. The towel can
>> sway
>> and keep it from shutting.
>
> I keep my towels on my dishwasher and my oven handles.

Can't put one on my dishwasher handle and I do have one on my stove although
it drags on the floor when it is opened.

Gary > Wrote in message:
> sf wrote:
>>
>> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
>> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's

I think it was too full, and the bread was in the top drawer. if it wasn't shut all the way it seems that the temperature wouldn't have been zero. it seems to work fine.
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On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 00:45:52 -0400 (EDT), Cheryl
> wrote:

> Gary > Wrote in message:
> > sf wrote:
> >>
> >> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
> >> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
>
> I think it was too full, and the bread was in the top drawer. if it wasn't shut all the way it seems that the temperature wouldn't have been zero. it seems to work fine.

I think you're right.


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Il giorno domenica 1 giugno 2014 01:49:05 UTC+2, Cheryl ha scritto:
> I bought a loaf of this huge bread a week ago and made a couple of
>
> sandwiches and needed to freeze the rest. I wanted a grilled cheese
>
> today and took the loaf from the freezer and stuck my hand in and pulled
>
> it out green. There was no detectable mould when I froze it, and had
>
> even made a sandwich with a slice of it just before putting it in the
>
> freezer. The inside of the bag was damp even though the bread was
>
> frozen. I guess this attributed to the mould, but it surprised me since
>
> it's only been a few days.
>
>
>
> The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
>
> separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one.
>
> Have you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of
>
> the loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it
>
> from the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags.
>
> What do you think? The mould made my throat close up just from
>
> opening the bag. I have a mould allergy.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> l
> --
>
> ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
>
> Cheryl

I would try with another kind of bread. If you have the same problem, I would think to change freezer
cheers
Pandora

sf wrote:
>
> On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:22:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> > "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > > sf wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
> > >> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
> > >> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
> > >> is constantly running.
> > >
> > > Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
> > > to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
> > > hours in the past.
> >
> > Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge handle. You
> > have to make sure to push the door shut. If you just fling it as some here
> > in this house do, it won't necessarily shut all the way. The towel can sway
> > and keep it from shutting.
>
> I keep my towels on my dishwasher and my oven handles.

I keep a neatly folded stack of kitchen towels on the counter, having
them hanging on any handles irritates me as they get in the way.

In article >, says...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:22:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Gary" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > sf wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
> >> >> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
> >> >> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
> >> >> is constantly running.
> >> >
> >> > Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
> >> > to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
> >> > hours in the past.
> >>
> >> Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge handle.
> >> You
> >> have to make sure to push the door shut. If you just fling it as some
> >> here
> >> in this house do, it won't necessarily shut all the way. The towel can
> >> sway
> >> and keep it from shutting.
> >
> > I keep my towels on my dishwasher and my oven handles.
>
> Can't put one on my dishwasher handle and I do have one on my stove although
> it drags on the floor when it is opened.

In article >, says...

> >> Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge
>>>handle.The towel can sway and keep it from shutting.
> >
> > I keep my towels on my dishwasher and my oven handles.
>
> Can't put one on my dishwasher handle and I do have one on my stove although
> it drags on the floor when it is opened.

One excuse after another. Ain't life a bitch in Boveworld.

Janet UK

On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 19:49:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:22:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Gary" > wrote in message
...
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
>>>>> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
>>>>> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
>>>>> is constantly running.
>>>>
>>>> Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
>>>> to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
>>>> hours in the past.
>>>
>>>Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge handle.
>>>You
>>>have to make sure to push the door shut. If you just fling it as some
>>>here
>>>in this house do, it won't necessarily shut all the way. The towel can
>>>sway
>>>and keep it from shutting.
>>
>> Just gotta adjust the levelers so the front is high enough so the door
>> closes by itself (gravity).
>
>I noticed a recent problem that the fridge door is tending to stick open.
>The door is overloaded with stuff which could be the problem. I would have
>no clue how to adjust the levelers and the fridge weighs a ton even when
>empty.
>
>I was very surprised when we did the wallpaper stripping at my mom's house
>how you could just move her fridge all over the place with no effort at all.
>Not so with this beast! You have to remove about half of the contents then
>push or pull with all your might.

The heavier the door is loaded the more easily it will close. The
levelers are easy to adjust, the adjusters are right in front at the
very bottom, you may need to snap out that small grate .. look in your
owner's manual. Most refrigerators have wheels, adjust both sides so
that the fridge is level side to side, then adjust each equally so
that the door closes on its own from the half opened position. You
will need a small bubble level, and a tool to make the adjustment,
typically a screwdriver or an adjustable wrench. You might want
someone to help so you won't need to keep standing up to read the
level. It's best to follow the directions in your owner's manual...
if you don't have yours it's on line. All your kitchen appliances
need proper leveling; stove especially, and washer and dryer too.
Level your oven with a bubble level on its center grate.

On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 07:50:50 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:22:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > > > sf wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
> > > >> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
> > > >> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
> > > >> is constantly running.
> > > >
> > > > Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
> > > > to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
> > > > hours in the past.
> > >
> > > Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge handle. You
> > > have to make sure to push the door shut. If you just fling it as some here
> > > in this house do, it won't necessarily shut all the way. The towel can sway
> > > and keep it from shutting.
> >
> > I keep my towels on my dishwasher and my oven handles.
>
> I keep a neatly folded stack of kitchen towels on the counter, having
> them hanging on any handles irritates me as they get in the way.

Huh. Well, you know the saying: it takes all kinds.


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

"Pete C." wrote:
>sf wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>> > "Gary" wrote:
>> > > sf wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
>> > >> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
>> > >> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
>> > >> is constantly running.
>> > >
>> > > Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
>> > > to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
>> > > hours in the past.
>> >
>> > Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge handle. You
>> > have to make sure to push the door shut. If you just fling it as some here
>> > in this house do, it won't necessarily shut all the way. The towel can sway
>> > and keep it from shutting.

My fridge has an idiot light that comes on if a door is open, like on
my car dashboard... well not really but something a fridge should
have.

>> I keep my towels on my dishwasher and my oven handles.
>
>I keep a neatly folded stack of kitchen towels on the counter, having
>them hanging on any handles irritates me as they get in the way.

Where do you keep those you are using, those that may be dirty and/or
wet... folded and stacked they'd not dry. Keeping a stack of clean
towels on the counter would irritate me, exposed like that where food
is prepped they may not stay clean, I prefer to keep them in a kitchen
drawer. I keep two out that I'm using, one to wipe up spills and
schmutz hangs from the oven handle, one for drying hand washed items
lives draped over my knife block where it's within reach but out of
the way and can dry. After a day or two the clean one becomes the
schmutz one and I take a fresh one from the towel drawer for clean
work.

On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 23:47:50 -0700 (PDT), Pandora >
wrote:

>Il giorno domenica 1 giugno 2014 01:49:05 UTC+2, Cheryl ha scritto:
>> I bought a loaf of this huge bread a week ago and made a couple of
>>
>> sandwiches and needed to freeze the rest. I wanted a grilled cheese
>>
>> today and took the loaf from the freezer and stuck my hand in and pulled
>>
>> it out green. There was no detectable mould when I froze it, and had
>>
>> even made a sandwich with a slice of it just before putting it in the
>>
>> freezer. The inside of the bag was damp even though the bread was
>>
>> frozen. I guess this attributed to the mould, but it surprised me since
>>
>> it's only been a few days.
>>
>>
>>
>> The freezer has a built-in thermometer that reads 0 degrees, and I put a
>>
>> separate one in because two readings are better than one flawed one.
>>
>> Have you had this happen to recently frozen bread? I guess the size of
>>
>> the loaf could be partly to blame and maybe next time I should remove it
>>
>> from the original packaging, and separate it into several ziplock bags.
>>
>> What do you think? The mould made my throat close up just from
>>
>> opening the bag. I have a mould allergy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> l
>> --
>>
>> ?.¸¸.?*¨`*?
>>
>> Cheryl
>
>I would try with another kind of bread. If you have the same problem, I would think to change freezer
>cheers
>Pandora

Someone with a mold allergy should be wearing a HEPA mask 24/7...
there's mold everywhere... can't be avoided lest you live in a bubble.

On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 14:18:36 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >, says...
>
>> >> Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge
>>>>handle.The towel can sway and keep it from shutting.
>> >
>> > I keep my towels on my dishwasher and my oven handles.
>>
>> Can't put one on my dishwasher handle and I do have one on my stove although
>> it drags on the floor when it is opened.
>
> One excuse after another. Ain't life a bitch in Boveworld.

They make these things called "towel holders" that can be located in
just about any part of your kitchen. Here's an example:

http://inmyownstyle.com/images/2013/...wels_thumb.jpg

Doris

On 6/1/2014 10:03 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 12:59:10 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
>>> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
>>> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
>>> is constantly running.
>>
>> Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
>> to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
>> hours in the past.
>>
> Have you ever use the Vaseline trick on your seals to extend their
> life? It's a way to keep them "subtitle" longer (those suckers are
> super expensive to replace, so I'm all over any way not to bite the
> bullet). After you apply Vaseline to the seals, they have a super
> stick to them (you have to really tug to open the door) but don't do
> what most people do and touch them... if touch/texture could be even a
> remotely possible negative for you - it is has a disgusting YUCK
> factor to it, beware. It feels like sticky slime.
>

Per the advice given by an appliance repair guy years ago, we use
liquid dish soap on the seal. Plus - again per his advice - we have
our freezer tipped slightly towards the rear, to ensure the door
swings shut even when we've got our hands full and are preoccupied.
Both tips ensure a completely closed door and a tight seal.

On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 15:51:14 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
wrote:

> On 6/1/2014 10:03 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 12:59:10 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
> >>> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
> >>> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
> >>> is constantly running.
> >>
> >> Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
> >> to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
> >> hours in the past.
> >>
> > Have you ever use the Vaseline trick on your seals to extend their
> > life? It's a way to keep them "subtitle" longer (those suckers are
> > super expensive to replace, so I'm all over any way not to bite the
> > bullet). After you apply Vaseline to the seals, they have a super
> > stick to them (you have to really tug to open the door) but don't do
> > what most people do and touch them... if touch/texture could be even a
> > remotely possible negative for you - it is has a disgusting YUCK
> > factor to it, beware. It feels like sticky slime.
> >
>
> Per the advice given by an appliance repair guy years ago, we use
> liquid dish soap on the seal. Plus - again per his advice - we have
> our freezer tipped slightly towards the rear, to ensure the door
> swings shut even when we've got our hands full and are preoccupied.
> Both tips ensure a completely closed door and a tight seal.

Heh, our appliance guy is the one who recommended the Vaseline - but I
agree about the slight tip from front to back. Every refrigerator
I've had has been raised slightly in front since my first refrigerator
because the installers recommended it and by golly, it works!


--

Good Food.
Good Friends.
Good Memories.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> "Pete C." wrote:
> >sf wrote:
> >> "Julie Bove" wrote:
> >> > "Gary" wrote:
> >> > > sf wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
> >> > >> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
> >> > >> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
> >> > >> is constantly running.
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
> >> > > to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
> >> > > hours in the past.
> >> >
> >> > Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge handle. You
> >> > have to make sure to push the door shut. If you just fling it as some here
> >> > in this house do, it won't necessarily shut all the way. The towel can sway
> >> > and keep it from shutting.
>
> My fridge has an idiot light that comes on if a door is open, like on
> my car dashboard... well not really but something a fridge should
> have.

Mine has an alarm that beeps if the door is open more than I think 3
min.

>
> >> I keep my towels on my dishwasher and my oven handles.
> >
> >I keep a neatly folded stack of kitchen towels on the counter, having
> >them hanging on any handles irritates me as they get in the way.
>
> Where do you keep those you are using, those that may be dirty and/or
> wet... folded and stacked they'd not dry. Keeping a stack of clean
> towels on the counter would irritate me, exposed like that where food
> is prepped they may not stay clean, I prefer to keep them in a kitchen
> drawer. I keep two out that I'm using, one to wipe up spills and
> schmutz hangs from the oven handle, one for drying hand washed items
> lives draped over my knife block where it's within reach but out of
> the way and can dry. After a day or two the clean one becomes the
> schmutz one and I take a fresh one from the towel drawer for clean
> work.

I've never had any issue with the clean towels getting contaminated with
any food, and they are always within easy reach when I need to handle a
hot lid or pan. Ones used for such hot use just go back in the clean
pile when I'm done with them. Ones that get dirty get tossed in the
laundry bin to be washed.

"Pete C." > wrote in message
...
>
> sf wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:22:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > "Gary" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > sf wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
>> > >> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
>> > >> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
>> > >> is constantly running.
>> > >
>> > > Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
>> > > to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
>> > > hours in the past.
>> >
>> > Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge handle.
>> > You
>> > have to make sure to push the door shut. If you just fling it as some
>> > here
>> > in this house do, it won't necessarily shut all the way. The towel can
>> > sway
>> > and keep it from shutting.
>>
>> I keep my towels on my dishwasher and my oven handles.
>
> I keep a neatly folded stack of kitchen towels on the counter, having
> them hanging on any handles irritates me as they get in the way.

Mine are merely decorative. I use paper towels.

"Pete C." wrote:
>
> I keep a neatly folded stack of kitchen towels on the counter, having
> them hanging on any handles irritates me as they get in the way.

I have one kitchen drawer dedicated to holding folded kitchen towels.
The current one that I use hangs on a hook screwed into that same
drawer.

G.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 14:18:36 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>>In article >, says...
>>
>>> >> Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge
>>>>>handle.The towel can sway and keep it from shutting.
>>> >
>>> > I keep my towels on my dishwasher and my oven handles.
>>>
>>> Can't put one on my dishwasher handle and I do have one on my stove
>>> although
>>> it drags on the floor when it is opened.
>>
>> One excuse after another. Ain't life a bitch in Boveworld.
>
> They make these things called "towel holders" that can be located in
> just about any part of your kitchen. Here's an example:
>
> http://inmyownstyle.com/images/2013/...wels_thumb.jpg

Might work in your kitchen. I only have two cabinet ends. One has a little
fridge up against it and the other is where the exterior door is.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 19:49:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:22:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Gary" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agree. Or maybe the door was not closed properly - it can happen
>>>>>> accidentally when the freezer is too full. It looks closed but it's
>>>>>> not properly sealed - the way you can tell is you can hear the motor
>>>>>> is constantly running.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes! I have to be careful to check both my freezer and fridge doors
>>>>> to make sure they are shut tight. I've had them ajar a bit for a few
>>>>> hours in the past.
>>>>
>>>>Mine can get that way due to a towel that I have on the fridge handle.
>>>>You
>>>>have to make sure to push the door shut. If you just fling it as some
>>>>here
>>>>in this house do, it won't necessarily shut all the way. The towel can
>>>>sway
>>>>and keep it from shutting.
>>>
>>> Just gotta adjust the levelers so the front is high enough so the door
>>> closes by itself (gravity).
>>
>>I noticed a recent problem that the fridge door is tending to stick open.
>>The door is overloaded with stuff which could be the problem. I would
>>have
>>no clue how to adjust the levelers and the fridge weighs a ton even when
>>empty.
>>
>>I was very surprised when we did the wallpaper stripping at my mom's house
>>how you could just move her fridge all over the place with no effort at
>>all.
>>Not so with this beast! You have to remove about half of the contents
>>then
>>push or pull with all your might.
>
> The heavier the door is loaded the more easily it will close. The
> levelers are easy to adjust, the adjusters are right in front at the
> very bottom, you may need to snap out that small grate .. look in your
> owner's manual. Most refrigerators have wheels, adjust both sides so
> that the fridge is level side to side, then adjust each equally so
> that the door closes on its own from the half opened position. You
> will need a small bubble level, and a tool to make the adjustment,
> typically a screwdriver or an adjustable wrench. You might want
> someone to help so you won't need to keep standing up to read the
> level. It's best to follow the directions in your owner's manual...
> if you don't have yours it's on line. All your kitchen appliances
> need proper leveling; stove especially, and washer and dryer too.
> Level your oven with a bubble level on its center grate.

I don't think mine has wheels or a grate.