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Police nab man pushing cartload of stolen meat from QFC
Posted on May 30, 2014 | By Lynsi Burton

Seattle police caught a 50-year-old man pushing practically a whole cow
in a grocery cart Wednesday night outside a South Seattle QFC.

Man had a craving, but reportedly did not pay for his fix, police allege.

An officer was driving about 11:15 p.m. down Rainier Avenue South near
South McClellan Street when he noticed a man pushing a shopping cart
filled with meat along the street, Seattle police reports say.

The officer pulled up next to the man, wondering what he was doing with
so many steaks and ribs late at night. The man claimed he was taking
them to a friend’s house.

A second officer consulted with workers at a nearby QFC, who reported
the man had just taken off without paying for the 13 packages of meat,
valued at $263, reports say.

Police booked the man into King County Jail for investigation of the theft.

QFC had to toss the meat because it was taken outside the store.

On 6/1/2014 8:41 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 20:26:05 -0400, Travis McGee wrote:
>
>> Seattle police caught a 50-year-old man pushing practically a whole cow
>> in a grocery cart ...
>
> I'd of course argue that approximately 32 lbs of beef is hardly a
> whole cow. A whole steer is about 500lbs of retail meat. They only
> exaggerated a magnitude of 15X. Typical media sensationalism.
>
>> A second officer consulted with workers at a nearby QFC, who reported
>> the man had just taken off without paying for the 13 packages of meat,
>> valued at $263, reports say.
>
> Since they apparently noticed him, how hard would it have been to
> chase down a 50-year old man pushing a shopping cart out of the store?
>
> -sw
>

In some retail organizations employees are explicitly forbidden from
confronting thieves; they are supposed to call the police. This is to
shield the company from liability if the employee is injured.

I knew a guy who worked at 7-11 when he was in college; he was robbed
twice in a short period. Each time he was humiliated, made to lie on his
face on the floor while the thieves rifled through the shelves for beer
and cigarettes. When they came back for a third time, he snapped; he
started throwing cans and bottles at them shrieking and generally acting
crazy. The thieves fled without taking anything.

His management, of course, fired him. 7-11 has a strict rule about no
resistance. Luckily, he went on to bigger and better things when he got
his degree, but that incident stuck with him, probably forever.

"Travis McGee" > wrote in message
...
> http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911...h-seattle-qfc/
>
> Police nab man pushing cartload of stolen meat from QFC
> Posted on May 30, 2014 | By Lynsi Burton
> Seattle police caught a 50-year-old man pushing practically a whole cow in
> a grocery cart Wednesday night outside a South Seattle QFC.
>
> Man had a craving, but reportedly did not pay for his fix, police allege.
>
> An officer was driving about 11:15 p.m. down Rainier Avenue South near
> South McClellan Street when he noticed a man pushing a shopping cart
> filled with meat along the street, Seattle police reports say.
>
> The officer pulled up next to the man, wondering what he was doing with so
> many steaks and ribs late at night. The man claimed he was taking them to
> a friend’s house.
>
> A second officer consulted with workers at a nearby QFC, who reported the
> man had just taken off without paying for the 13 packages of meat, valued
> at $263, reports say.
>
> Police booked the man into King County Jail for investigation of the
> theft.
>
> QFC had to toss the meat because it was taken outside the store.

Good grief! But oddly enough, the most blatant way to steal things is often
how people get away with it.

"Travis McGee" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/1/2014 8:41 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 20:26:05 -0400, Travis McGee wrote:
>>
>>> Seattle police caught a 50-year-old man pushing practically a whole cow
>>> in a grocery cart ...
>>
>> I'd of course argue that approximately 32 lbs of beef is hardly a
>> whole cow. A whole steer is about 500lbs of retail meat. They only
>> exaggerated a magnitude of 15X. Typical media sensationalism.
>>
>>> A second officer consulted with workers at a nearby QFC, who reported
>>> the man had just taken off without paying for the 13 packages of meat,
>>> valued at $263, reports say.
>>
>> Since they apparently noticed him, how hard would it have been to
>> chase down a 50-year old man pushing a shopping cart out of the store?
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> In some retail organizations employees are explicitly forbidden from
> confronting thieves; they are supposed to call the police. This is to
> shield the company from liability if the employee is injured.
>
> I knew a guy who worked at 7-11 when he was in college; he was robbed
> twice in a short period. Each time he was humiliated, made to lie on his
> face on the floor while the thieves rifled through the shelves for beer
> and cigarettes. When they came back for a third time, he snapped; he
> started throwing cans and bottles at them shrieking and generally acting
> crazy. The thieves fled without taking anything.
>
> His management, of course, fired him. 7-11 has a strict rule about no
> resistance. Luckily, he went on to bigger and better things when he got
> his degree, but that incident stuck with him, probably forever.

When I worked for K Mart, we often had people get away. We might have seen
them take something but we couldn't do anything until they got out of the
store. If they could run faster than us or hopped into a getaway car right
outside the store, we couldn't always grab them. Once, the guy had wrapped
white Tshirts around the license plates on his getaway car so we couldn't
read the plate number.

Don't know about this case. He would have had to load the meat into the
vehicle or perhaps he just took off running with it. Most places will not
go off of their property to try to catch a thief. That just wouldn't be
prudent. I doubt that I have ever been to that QFC, or if I was, it was
many years ago and it went by another name. I used to work for an inventory
company and we did do stores in South Seattle but...QFC wasn't around in
those days. I do remember the one store that was teeming with mice. It had
drawers under the counters for excess stock. We were warned to step back
when we opened them to check for contents.

I also remember an insane amount of shoplifters there. South Seattle isn't
such a nice area. People were just blatantly opening packages, ditching
them and eating the food as they shopped. Yes, Jill, I did point this out
to an employee and I was told to just keep doing my job and ignore it. I
was glad that we didn't have to do that store again.

On 6/1/2014 10:46 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
(a bunch of stuff)

> Yes, Jill, I did point this out to an employee and I was told to just keep doing my job
> and ignore it. I was glad that we didn't have to do that store again.

Why are you dragging my name into this thread?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/1/2014 10:46 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> (a bunch of stuff)
>
>> Yes, Jill, I did point this out to an employee and I was told to just
>> keep doing my job
>> and ignore it. I was glad that we didn't have to do that store again.
>
> Why are you dragging my name into this thread?

Why not? You gave me a coal raking over the woman using the nail polish.
Just letting you know that I did alert a store employee to the people who
were eating the food without paying for it.

On 6/1/2014 11:30 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 23:04:52 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 6/1/2014 10:46 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> (a bunch of stuff)
>>
>>> Yes, Jill, I did point this out to an employee and I was told to just keep doing my job
>>> and ignore it. I was glad that we didn't have to do that store again.
>>
>> Why are you dragging my name into this thread?
>
> Because she needs to interject herself into EVERY thread here with
> some long-winded story, and drag as many other people into it as she
> possibly can. All this typing gives her something to do at night.
>
> -sw
>
Yeah, okay. I'm going to sleep now. On my not twin-size bed.

Jill

On 6/1/2014 11:30 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 23:04:52 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 6/1/2014 10:46 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> (a bunch of stuff)
>>
>>> Yes, Jill, I did point this out to an employee and I was told to just keep doing my job
>>> and ignore it. I was glad that we didn't have to do that store again.
>>
>> Why are you dragging my name into this thread?
>
> Because she needs to interject herself into EVERY thread here with
> some long-winded story, and drag as many other people into it as she
> possibly can. All this typing gives her something to do at night.
>
> -sw
>

I think this story is going to be discussed next week on "Meat the Press".

On Sunday, June 1, 2014 8:00:13 PM UTC-7, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 21:03:36 -0400, Travis McGee wrote:
>
>
>


> > In some retail organizations employees are explicitly forbidden from
> > confronting thieves; they are supposed to call the police. This is to
> > shield the company from liability if the employee is injured.
>
> Not around here. H-E-B has "Yellow Shirts" always on duty in case of
> immediate loss prevention.

>
> But yeah, I expect other retail organizations have such policies.
>
> Kinda makes walking out with a cart full of meat like taking candy
> from a baby. In this case it didn't even sound like the store called
> police. The police called them.
>

I have been told that Safeway workers are trained to ignore shoplifters,
that only managers or store security can confront them. Further, that
no store security works at my local Safeway.

Had I known this, it sure would have helped with my party planning.

> wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, June 1, 2014 8:00:13 PM UTC-7, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 21:03:36 -0400, Travis McGee wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>> > In some retail organizations employees are explicitly forbidden from
>> > confronting thieves; they are supposed to call the police. This is to
>> > shield the company from liability if the employee is injured.
>>
>> Not around here. H-E-B has "Yellow Shirts" always on duty in case of
>> immediate loss prevention.
>
>>
>> But yeah, I expect other retail organizations have such policies.
>>
>> Kinda makes walking out with a cart full of meat like taking candy
>> from a baby. In this case it didn't even sound like the store called
>> police. The police called them.
>>
>
> I have been told that Safeway workers are trained to ignore shoplifters,
> that only managers or store security can confront them. Further, that
> no store security works at my local Safeway.
>
> Had I known this, it sure would have helped with my party planning.

Not here they don't! We saw an incident in one when Angela was much
younger. It was a boy of about her age. He was approaching Customer
Service to buy a candy bar. A man took the candy from him and chased him
out. He protested. Said he wasn't stealing and was going to buy the candy.
Angela got upset when he was kicked from the store. I had to explain to her
later that there must have been a previous incident where he did steal and
got caught.

On 6/1/2014 8:41 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 20:26:05 -0400, Travis McGee wrote:
>
>> Seattle police caught a 50-year-old man pushing practically a whole cow
>> in a grocery cart ...
>
> I'd of course argue that approximately 32 lbs of beef is hardly a
> whole cow. A whole steer is about 500lbs of retail meat. They only
> exaggerated a magnitude of 15X. Typical media sensationalism.
>
>> A second officer consulted with workers at a nearby QFC, who reported
>> the man had just taken off without paying for the 13 packages of meat,
>> valued at $263, reports say.
>
> Since they apparently noticed him, how hard would it have been to
> chase down a 50-year old man pushing a shopping cart out of the store?
>
> -sw
>
Hey, some of us 50-somethings can run pretty fast!

Jill

On 2014-06-03 10:41 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/1/2014 8:41 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 20:26:05 -0400, Travis McGee wrote:
>>
>>> Seattle police caught a 50-year-old man pushing practically a whole cow
>>> in a grocery cart ...
>>
>> I'd of course argue that approximately 32 lbs of beef is hardly a
>> whole cow. A whole steer is about 500lbs of retail meat. They only
>> exaggerated a magnitude of 15X. Typical media sensationalism.
>>
>>> A second officer consulted with workers at a nearby QFC, who reported
>>> the man had just taken off without paying for the 13 packages of meat,
>>> valued at $263, reports say.
>>
>> Since they apparently noticed him, how hard would it have been to
>> chase down a 50-year old man pushing a shopping cart out of the store?
>>
>> -sw
>>
> Hey, some of us 50-somethings can run pretty fast!


Our Swedish visitor is 73 and he and I have been cycling around the area
sightseeing. He was more interested in seeing things by bicycle than by
car. I bicycle daily, and I have been having a hard tome keeping up.
There are a few hills around here that are steep enough that I get off
and walk. He pedals all the way to the top. We have been doing 25-30
miles a day. I bet there are lots of younger people who could not keep
up with him.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-06-03 10:41 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 6/1/2014 8:41 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 20:26:05 -0400, Travis McGee wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seattle police caught a 50-year-old man pushing practically a whole cow
>>>> in a grocery cart ...
>>>
>>> I'd of course argue that approximately 32 lbs of beef is hardly a
>>> whole cow. A whole steer is about 500lbs of retail meat. They only
>>> exaggerated a magnitude of 15X. Typical media sensationalism.
>>>
>>>> A second officer consulted with workers at a nearby QFC, who reported
>>>> the man had just taken off without paying for the 13 packages of meat,
>>>> valued at $263, reports say.
>>>
>>> Since they apparently noticed him, how hard would it have been to
>>> chase down a 50-year old man pushing a shopping cart out of the store?
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>> Hey, some of us 50-somethings can run pretty fast!
>
>
> Our Swedish visitor is 73 and he and I have been cycling around the area
> sightseeing. He was more interested in seeing things by bicycle than by
> car. I bicycle daily, and I have been having a hard tome keeping up. There
> are a few hills around here that are steep enough that I get off and walk.
> He pedals all the way to the top. We have been doing 25-30 miles a day. I
> bet there are lots of younger people who could not keep up with him.

Heh I bet he keeps you on your toes)))

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