Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds wrote:
>
> what's the reason that Angela isn't doing the research for yet another
> project?

That's what I was thinking. I know Julie just wants to help her but
she's 15-16 now and it's a school project. Julie should back off. Let
Angela research this, pick something, and make it herself...all on her
own. Pass or fail, let her earn her own grade on the project.

You only hurt her by taking charge here, Julie. It's time to back
off.

G.

On 2014-06-04 1:17 PM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:

>> The class is mostly girls so she said anything with a squick factor would be
>> out. Such as escargot. Does the recipe I found sound like a good idea? Or
>> can you think of anything else? It also has to be fairly easy to make since
>> her cooking/baking experience is almost non-existent. Thanks!
>
> what's the reason that Angela isn't doing the research for yet another
> project?
>


Angela didn't do the prep work... coming up with excuses why our
suggestions won't work.

On 2014-06-04 2:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/4/2014 12:12 PM, Robert wrote:
>>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>> Angela needs to make some authentic French food to take to her French
>>>> class. I think it is next week that she needs it.
>> (snippage)
>>>
>>> Check out Julia child.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqvMaXnzKc
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>> Thank you for the link! I nearly recommended "French Fries" (or
>> frites, if you prefer).
>>
>> I took Spanish in school but the teacher didn't ask us to bring
>> Spanish food to feed the class.
>
> Only problem there is that there is no way to keep them hot and cold
> ones wouldn't be good.

Bingo.... excuses why our suggestions won't work.

On 6/4/2014 4:18 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:50:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Not sure that the quiches
>> would be good at room temp. Which is likely what they would be by the time
>> her class is.
>
> Mini-quiche is commonly served as finger food, at room temperature.
>
Yep, that's usually the way I've had them at cocktail parties or other
events. They aren't served right out of the oven. You can buy the
little tart shells and just have her make the filling and bake them.

Jill

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 6/4/2014 2:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 6/4/2014 3:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> Angela needs to make some authentic French food to take to her French
>>>>>> class. I think it is next week that she needs it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheat. Buy a package of ready made miniature croissants, make a small
>>>>> batch of ganache. While the ganache is still soft, slice each
>>>>> croissant in half, spread a generous amount of ganache inside. Call it
>>>>> pain au chocolat. Not genuine, but close enough for school.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! I had thought of something like that but I don't think that
>>>> she
>>>> would feel that she made it.
>>>
>>> Then get her a cookbook and make her *make* something. It sure doesn't
>>> sound like you're going to make her actually do anything.
>>
>> I am not going to go buy a cookbook for a project. I don't even *use*
>> cookbooks any more. The Internet is loaded with recipes. I was just
>> asking
>> for suggestions. French is not a cuisine I am overly familiar with.
>
> surely Angela has learned something about French cuisine in the class,
> especially if the assignment requires that she make something herself
> (which seems more appropriate for a cooking class, but hey what do I
> know about education)

No, they didn't really. She's only in the first year and they only just
began learning the food names. She had to declare today what she was
bringing so there were no duplicates. She said she would take the cookies,
although she couldn't remember the name. Now I have to go see if I still
have my old cookie press. And if it works. It would be around 20 years
old.

Apparently cheese was okay as some girl signed up to bring that.

The schools these days have the kids do all sorts of things that IMO don't
relate to the class. She just had to build an alien out of household
objects for geometry and write a report about the alien. What planet was it
from? The name and gender and what it likes to eat and do. Another year
she had to photograph shapes for math. This involved my buying a disposable
camera and then finding some place to develop the pics. Apparently not too
many people do that these days. We are not pic people! Which reminds me.
I took a roof pic. Must put it up for Gary.

At any rate, I guess I picked a good recipe as nobody else signed up to make
that. I figured it was fitting as one of her nicknames is Crazy Cat Lady.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:43:07 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> > wrote:
>
>> surely Angela has learned something about French cuisine in the class,
>> especially if the assignment requires that she make something herself
>> (which seems more appropriate for a cooking class, but hey what do I
>> know about education)
>
> I think the instructions were misinterpreted by someone, but I haven't
> seen or heard them - so that detail is lost. In any case, it doesn't
> matter. If this is a way Julie can get Angela into the kitchen,
> "cooking" or at least helping cook, what's wrong with that?
>
She was actually absent when the assignment was given out so she may have
gotten some details wrong. She agreed to do the cookies because everyone
else had signed up for things like pastry, vegetables and cheese. So far no
other cookies.

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/4/2014 4:15 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:43:07 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> surely Angela has learned something about French cuisine in the class,
>>> especially if the assignment requires that she make something herself
>>> (which seems more appropriate for a cooking class, but hey what do I
>>> know about education)
>>
>> I think the instructions were misinterpreted by someone, but I haven't
>> seen or heard them - so that detail is lost. In any case, it doesn't
>> matter. If this is a way Julie can get Angela into the kitchen,
>> "cooking" or at least helping cook, what's wrong with that?
>>
> Julia Child was really very good on French cooking and her books are not
> exorbitantly priced.

I buy very few cookbooks these days. I did at one point copy many of her
recipes down by hand from the library. Only thing I ever made though were
poached pears. And...meh. Pretty much the same as canned pears. There was
a recipe for a flaming beef roast that I really wanted to make but was
frightened to. Was afraid I would burn the house down.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 17:12:03 -0400, James Silverton
> > wrote:
>
>> On 6/4/2014 4:15 PM, sf wrote:
>> > On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:43:07 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> surely Angela has learned something about French cuisine in the class,
>> >> especially if the assignment requires that she make something herself
>> >> (which seems more appropriate for a cooking class, but hey what do I
>> >> know about education)
>> >
>> > I think the instructions were misinterpreted by someone, but I haven't
>> > seen or heard them - so that detail is lost. In any case, it doesn't
>> > matter. If this is a way Julie can get Angela into the kitchen,
>> > "cooking" or at least helping cook, what's wrong with that?
>> >
>> Julia Child was really very good on French cooking and her books are not
>> exorbitantly priced.
>
> Lots of Julia's recipes online now. I think a link to some was posted
> upthread, but here are some
> http://www.pbs.org/food/julia-child/...child-recipes/
> http://www.foodrepublic.com/2012/06/...cipes-revealed
> http://www.food.com/recipe-finder/all/julia-child
>
> I just thought of another recipe that can be transported easily and
> served at room temperatu Tarte Tatin (upside-down apple tart).
>
Yes, I did see that and it looked good but I figured that might require also
sending in plates and forks. Not sure how they are going to do it. They
did have a party when the assistant left. We did not have to send in food
though. Just forks and then her friend forgot to buy the plates so we sent
those too. I always buy those when I can find them for cheap.

Must see if Central Market has any French napkins. I saw those online.
Alas can't get them by Mon. But she might get Brownie points if she brings
those in!

She is going with the cookies. She had to commit to something today. She
will make over the weekend. And wouldn't you know it is supposed to be hot
then. Not a good time to bake or work with chocolate.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:00:53 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I don't even *use*
>> cookbooks any more. The Internet is loaded with recipes.
>
> I hear you loud and clear. I'm the same way. Lots of cookbooks at my
> house that gather dust. I drag out "old faithful", the Betty Crocker
> orange circa the 1970's, the most - which isn't very much and only if
> it has a particular recipe I'm looking for. In all other cases, I
> turn to the internet before I open a cookbook.
>
I still do buy them occasionally but they have to have something more to
them than just recipes. For instance, the book Every Grain of Rice was
mentioned in another thread and given a high review. So I looked it up.
Seems there are two with that name but one is much older. That one says it
is loaded with stories about growing up Chinese in CA so it would be of
interest to me for that reason. I put it on my wish list. Lots of things
on my wish list! Am hoping I will get some money or a gift card for my
birthday and then I will get the step ladder and perhaps a book or two. The
books can wait. I have a whole shopping bag nearly full of unread books.
Am currently reading the history of the Comanche's. Eek! I had no clue how
violent they were.

"Robert" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>>"Robert" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>
>>> Check out Julia child.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqvMaXnzKc
>>
>>I am familiar with her recipes, but I don't think I want to watch that.
>>
> Then search for Julia child or Jacques Pepin recipe's and pick one.
>
Thanks but she is going to make the cookies. Although I like both of them,
I don't think that Jacques necessarily makes French food. Sometimes yes.
But chili? Not French.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:50:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Not sure that the quiches
>> would be good at room temp. Which is likely what they would be by the
>> time
>> her class is.
>
> Mini-quiche is commonly served as finger food, at room temperature.
>
Oh. Okay. But she has decided to make the cookies. Thanks!

> wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:18:25 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:50:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Not sure that the quiches
>>
>> > would be good at room temp. Which is likely what they would be by the
>> > time
>>
>> > her class is.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mini-quiche is commonly served as finger food, at room temperature.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
>
> Absolutely. Easy to make, easy to transport, easy to serve; what's not to
> like?
>
> The reason they won't allow you to bring anything hot is because this is
> the kids' project and they don't want parents getting their hands in it.
>
> It also calls for problem-solving skills, as in researching, determining
> your cooking capabilities, ease of transport, something the class would
> like, etc.

I suppose what's not to like is that I don't really know anyone who likes
quiche. I bought a few and except for the first slice that I gave to my
husband, they mostly went uneaten. Angela got burned out on them when she
was on the South Beach diet because there was a crustless kind made in
muffin tins that needed to be eaten for breakfast during the first two
weeks. She didn't like them much at all.

The reason we can't bring in hot foods is that there is no microwave in the
room. Some rooms do have them. And parents are not allowed to go to the
classrooms. Had this been first period, I could have taken her to school
with something hot but by second period whatever it was, would have cooled
off.

On 6/4/2014 7:36 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> She was actually absent when the assignment was given out so she may
> have gotten some details wrong.

Oh BS. Even when you and I were in school if we were absent the day
homework was handed out, the instructions were given in writing. When I
was Angela's age I was absent for a week due to an inner ear infection.
A school friend brought me my books and my *written* homework
assignments. The instructions weren't vague. Get real.

Jill

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 13:43:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
>> It also calls for problem-solving skills, as in researching, determining
>> your cooking capabilities, ease of transport, something the class would
>> like, etc.
>
> Looks like Julie is doing all the work. Hopefully, she narrows it
> down to two or three and lets Angela make some decisions after that.
>
She had to go with the cookies. She didn't mention it to me until almost
midnight last night. I found the cookies right away and told her about
them. She wasn't thrilled but then discovered today that she had to declare
what she was bringing in and she didn't know of anything else. She did not
have time to look anything up last night. It's pic week at the dance studio
and yesterday she also had a private lesson which had to be delayed. When
they do pics, they do the largest room for that and that leaves only three
rooms to dance in. Everyone gets shuffled around and nothing is normal.
She didn't eat dinner until she got home and then had so much other homework
that by the time she even thought about the French food, it was too late for
her to look anything up.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/4/2014 4:18 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:50:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure that the quiches
>>> would be good at room temp. Which is likely what they would be by the
>>> time
>>> her class is.
>>
>> Mini-quiche is commonly served as finger food, at room temperature.
>>
> Yep, that's usually the way I've had them at cocktail parties or other
> events. They aren't served right out of the oven. You can buy the little
> tart shells and just have her make the filling and bake them.

Okay. Thanks!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:38:27 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
>> How about mini quiches?
>
> Mini-quiches are another great idea. She just bought some muffin
> pans.

No. I actually ordered one pan. Jumbo sized. Probably won't be here for
another week or so.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 11:59:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks! I had thought of crepes but don't they have to be hot?
>
> YW. In that particular case, they won't need to be hot. If she
> assembles them at home, it will be easier to spread the Nutella on a
> warm crepe than a cold one - but they will taste great cold and aren't
> messy if it's Nutella only, so they will be easy to transport and can
> turn into finger food for a classroom type situation.
>
>> I made
>> ****aladier many years ago but without the anchovies and without the
>> correct
>> olives because I couldn't find them at the time. I will mention the
>> other
>> things to her. But I am not sure about the cheeses because she said that
>> they had to make the food. Cornishons were another thing that came to
>> mind.
>
> I thought the ****aladière would be a great second choice because kids
> like pizza and it would be their chance to experience the French type
> for what might be the only time in their life - but that vegetable
> terrine is a good substitute. It will mean more fussing at home, but
> it can be transported in the pan (use a disposable aluminum pan so it
> doesn't need to come home). To serve, it and can be sliced and eaten
> with a fork or scooped out with a knife and used as a spread.
>
Perhaps some kids like pizza. I never did and Angela never did. At any
rate, she has committed to the cookies.

"Tara" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 11:26:27 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>> Ratatouille http://www.easy-french-food.com/ratatouille-recipe.html
>
> Ratatouille is a great idea. It's good at room temperature, uses some in-
> season produce, and kids should be familiar with the name from the movie.

Thanks! She is going with the cookies though. At least they will be
lightweight.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> what's the reason that Angela isn't doing the research for yet another
>> project?
>
> That's what I was thinking. I know Julie just wants to help her but
> she's 15-16 now and it's a school project. Julie should back off. Let
> Angela research this, pick something, and make it herself...all on her
> own. Pass or fail, let her earn her own grade on the project.
>
> You only hurt her by taking charge here, Julie. It's time to back
> off.

She needs help! She missed another day of school from being sick. Has sooo
much homework to catch up on and this is testing week. Plus kind of a hell
week at the dance studio. I wasn't trying to take charge. Neither of us
know much about French food and the few things I suggested, she balked at,
thinking perhaps they were not authentic. She said the teacher said the
more authentic the better. At any rate, she is going to make the cookies.

On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 16:45:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:00:53 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I don't even *use*
> >> cookbooks any more. The Internet is loaded with recipes.
> >
> > I hear you loud and clear. I'm the same way. Lots of cookbooks at my
> > house that gather dust. I drag out "old faithful", the Betty Crocker
> > orange circa the 1970's, the most - which isn't very much and only if
> > it has a particular recipe I'm looking for. In all other cases, I
> > turn to the internet before I open a cookbook.
> >
> I still do buy them occasionally but they have to have something more to
> them than just recipes. For instance, the book Every Grain of Rice was
> mentioned in another thread and given a high review. So I looked it up.
> Seems there are two with that name but one is much older. That one says it
> is loaded with stories about growing up Chinese in CA so it would be of
> interest to me for that reason. I put it on my wish list.

I have absolutely zero interest in cookbooks that are filled with
biographical stories. I want well tested recipes, with pictures and
clear instructions. That's all I'm looking for and that's why the
internet suits me. I get really annoyed when some aspiring writer
puts a long winded narrative above an internet recipe.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 16:47:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:50:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Not sure that the quiches
> >> would be good at room temp. Which is likely what they would be by the
> >> time
> >> her class is.
> >
> > Mini-quiche is commonly served as finger food, at room temperature.
> >
> Oh. Okay. But she has decided to make the cookies. Thanks!

It's her decision.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 6/4/2014 2:35 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Robert" > wrote in message
> ...

>> Check out Julia child.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqvMaXnzKc
>
> I am familiar with her recipes, but I don't think I want to watch that.

It actually was fun to watch. I love Julia.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 5:07:02 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 16:47:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> > "sf" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
>
> > > On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:50:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >> Not sure that the quiches
>
> > >> would be good at room temp. Which is likely what they would be by the
>
> > >> time
>
> > >> her class is.
>
> > >
>
> > > Mini-quiche is commonly served as finger food, at room temperature.
>
> > >
>
> > Oh. Okay. But she has decided to make the cookies. Thanks!
>
>
>
> It's her decision.
>
>
>
> --
>
> All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

Not really. she couldn't think of anything to say and she remembered her mom saying, 'cookies' She couldn't remember the name of them.

Julie P

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/4/2014 7:36 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> She was actually absent when the assignment was given out so she may
>> have gotten some details wrong.
>
> Oh BS. Even when you and I were in school if we were absent the day
> homework was handed out, the instructions were given in writing. When I
> was Angela's age I was absent for a week due to an inner ear infection. A
> school friend brought me my books and my *written* homework assignments.
> The instructions weren't vague. Get real.

Nonsense! I often did not get written instructions. That's what notes are
for. These days it is done by putting it on the whatever they call it
board...some kind of computer thing and kids are supposed to use their
phones to take a pic of it. Our schools do not use books any more. It's
all online. However, the school district redid the websites and the teachers
lost the ability to put assignments online. The math and science "books"
are accessed via a website that is not the school's.

Just because *you* did something a certain way doesn't mean that is the way
things are done now. I had to do a lot of reports that involved going to
the library and taking notes. The library is no longer used for such things
and Angela has never ever had to do a major report like I used to have to
do. She also hasn't had to write a lot of essays. School these days is
totally different than when I went. When I went, I didn't have tons of
homework except for when I had a report due. I wasn't required to take any
math in high school at all. Now? Some nights 5-6 hours of homework. And
none of it involves books.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


>"Robert" > wrote in message
>> Then search for Julia child or Jacques Pepin recipe's and pick one.
>>
>Thanks but she is going to make the cookies. Although I like both of them,
>I don't think that Jacques necessarily makes French food. Sometimes yes.
>But chili? Not French.
>

He is a French chef that was born and trained in France.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_P%C3%A9pin


Robert

> wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 5:07:02 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 16:47:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>> > "sf" > wrote in message
>>
>> > ...
>>
>> > > On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 12:50:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>
>> > > > wrote:
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >> Not sure that the quiches
>>
>> > >> would be good at room temp. Which is likely what they would be by
>> > >> the
>>
>> > >> time
>>
>> > >> her class is.
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > > Mini-quiche is commonly served as finger food, at room temperature.
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > Oh. Okay. But she has decided to make the cookies. Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> It's her decision.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
>
> Not really. she couldn't think of anything to say and she remembered her
> mom saying, 'cookies' She couldn't remember the name of them.

Right. Because she hadn't had time to research it. Initially she hadn't
wanted to do cookies at all but people had already signed up for pretty much
everything else and they couldn't duplicate, so...

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


>She was actually absent when the assignment was given out so she may have
>gotten some details wrong. She agreed to do the cookies because everyone
>else had signed up for things like pastry, vegetables and cheese. So far
>no other cookies.

Did you not say that cheese was not allowed because it was not made by her?
Now some kids are not only doing cheese but vegetables as well.


Robert

On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 21:29:51 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 6/4/2014 2:35 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Robert" > wrote in message
>> ...
>
>>> Check out Julia child.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqvMaXnzKc
>>
>> I am familiar with her recipes, but I don't think I want to watch that.
>
>It actually was fun to watch. I love Julia.

So do I. Pity there isn't more people like her in the world

I have all of her old shows on a spare hard drive, and the only two
cook books I bought new were of course Mastering The Art of French
Cooking pts 1&2.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 6/4/2014 2:35 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Robert" > wrote in message
>> ...
>
>>> Check out Julia child.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMqvMaXnzKc
>>
>> I am familiar with her recipes, but I don't think I want to watch that.
>
> It actually was fun to watch. I love Julia.

I was afraid it would be the one where she cut her hand.

"Robert" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
>>"Robert" > wrote in message
>>> Then search for Julia child or Jacques Pepin recipe's and pick one.
>>>
>>Thanks but she is going to make the cookies. Although I like both of
>>them, I don't think that Jacques necessarily makes French food. Sometimes
>>yes. But chili? Not French.
>>
>
> He is a French chef that was born and trained in France.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_P%C3%A9pin

I know who he is. But that doesn't mean that all of his recipes are French.
They aren't.

"Robert" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
>>She was actually absent when the assignment was given out so she may have
>>gotten some details wrong. She agreed to do the cookies because everyone
>>else had signed up for things like pastry, vegetables and cheese. So far
>>no other cookies.
>
> Did you not say that cheese was not allowed because it was not made by
> her? Now some kids are not only doing cheese but vegetables as well.

I did not say that. What I said was that I did not know if it was allowed
because she told me that they had to make something. The teacher may well
have told them to "bring" French food but we shall never know what he said
as she was not there when he said it.

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
hcrg.pbz...
>
>
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, James Silverton wrote:
>
>> On 6/4/2014 4:15 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:43:07 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> surely Angela has learned something about French cuisine in the class,
>>>> especially if the assignment requires that she make something herself
>>>> (which seems more appropriate for a cooking class, but hey what do I
>>>> know about education)
>>>
>>> I think the instructions were misinterpreted by someone, but I haven't
>>> seen or heard them - so that detail is lost. In any case, it doesn't
>>> matter. If this is a way Julie can get Angela into the kitchen,
>>> "cooking" or at least helping cook, what's wrong with that?
>>>
>> Julia Child was really very good on French cooking and her books are not
>> exorbitantly priced.
>
> I think there are still these places where they have lots and lots of
> books, and you don't have to BUY them, you can borrow them....
>
> "Library" is the word I'm looking for...
>
> Hell, our local library has the entire Julia Child's "The French Chef"
> series on DVDs for lending. Jacques Pepin, too.

Yeah. Like I said, I went to the library and copied down recipes from her
book. I don't do libraries these days. Really no need to. Also don't do
DVDs. Freaking hate DVDs!

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
hcrg.pbz...
>
>
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:43:07 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> surely Angela has learned something about French cuisine in the class,
>>>> especially if the assignment requires that she make something herself
>>>> (which seems more appropriate for a cooking class, but hey what do I
>>>> know about education)
>>>
>>> I think the instructions were misinterpreted by someone, but I haven't
>>> seen or heard them - so that detail is lost. In any case, it doesn't
>>> matter. If this is a way Julie can get Angela into the kitchen,
>>> "cooking" or at least helping cook, what's wrong with that?
>>>
>> She was actually absent when the assignment was given out so she may have
>> gotten some details wrong. She agreed to do the cookies because everyone
>> else had signed up for things like pastry, vegetables and cheese. So far
>> no other cookies.
>
> So, she has neither friends in the class to ask about the assignment, nor
> is she able to speak to the teacher to find out what the assignment was?

The friend is the one who told her what she told her. It's all a moot point
now anyway. She said she would bring the cookies. They're French and they
look easy enough to make.

On 6/4/2014 7:35 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> The schools these days have the kids do all sorts of things that IMO
> don't relate to the class. She just had to build an alien out of
> household objects for geometry and write a report about the alien. What
> planet was it from? The name and gender and what it likes to eat and
> do. Another year she had to photograph shapes for math. This involved
> my buying a disposable camera and then finding some place to develop the
> pics. Apparently not too many people do that these days. We are not
> pic people! Which reminds me. I took a roof pic. Must put it up for Gary.

My college courses in the last few years had some strange projects, so I
guess many teachers/professors are trying to make learning a little more
interesting. I'm all for it.

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Cheryl

On 6/4/2014 10:36 PM, barbie gee wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:43:07 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> surely Angela has learned something about French cuisine in the class,
>>>> especially if the assignment requires that she make something herself
>>>> (which seems more appropriate for a cooking class, but hey what do I
>>>> know about education)
>>>
>>> I think the instructions were misinterpreted by someone, but I haven't
>>> seen or heard them - so that detail is lost. In any case, it doesn't
>>> matter. If this is a way Julie can get Angela into the kitchen,
>>> "cooking" or at least helping cook, what's wrong with that?
>>>
>> She was actually absent when the assignment was given out so she may
>> have gotten some details wrong. She agreed to do the cookies because
>> everyone else had signed up for things like pastry, vegetables and
>> cheese. So far no other cookies.
>
> So, she has neither friends in the class to ask about the assignment,
> nor is she able to speak to the teacher to find out what the assignment
> was?
>
Julie could also call the teacher and ask. That's what I would do.

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Cheryl

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 6/4/2014 2:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 6/4/2014 3:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>> Angela needs to make some authentic French food to take to her French
>>>>>>> class. I think it is next week that she needs it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheat. Buy a package of ready made miniature croissants, make a small
>>>>>> batch of ganache. While the ganache is still soft, slice each
>>>>>> croissant in half, spread a generous amount of ganache inside. Call it
>>>>>> pain au chocolat. Not genuine, but close enough for school.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks! I had thought of something like that but I don't think that
>>>>> she
>>>>> would feel that she made it.
>>>>
>>>> Then get her a cookbook and make her *make* something. It sure doesn't
>>>> sound like you're going to make her actually do anything.
>>>
>>> I am not going to go buy a cookbook for a project. I don't even *use*
>>> cookbooks any more. The Internet is loaded with recipes. I was just
>>> asking
>>> for suggestions. French is not a cuisine I am overly familiar with.
>>
>> surely Angela has learned something about French cuisine in the class,
>> especially if the assignment requires that she make something herself
>> (which seems more appropriate for a cooking class, but hey what do I
>> know about education)
>
> No, they didn't really. She's only in the first year and they only just
> began learning the food names. She had to declare today what she was
> bringing so there were no duplicates. She said she would take the cookies,
> although she couldn't remember the name. Now I have to go see if I still
> have my old cookie press. And if it works. It would be around 20 years
> old.
>
> Apparently cheese was okay as some girl signed up to bring that.
>
> The schools these days have the kids do all sorts of things that IMO don't
> relate to the class. She just had to build an alien out of household
> objects for geometry and write a report about the alien. What planet was it
> from? The name and gender and what it likes to eat and do. Another year
> she had to photograph shapes for math. This involved my buying a disposable
> camera and then finding some place to develop the pics. Apparently not too
> many people do that these days. We are not pic people! Which reminds me.
> I took a roof pic. Must put it up for Gary.
>
> At any rate, I guess I picked a good recipe as nobody else signed up to make
> that. I figured it was fitting as one of her nicknames is Crazy Cat Lady.

God Bless America! I wonder what non-English speaking people bring to
their English classes. Hot dogs and French fries? Hamburgers? Pizza?

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 6/4/2014 7:35 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> The schools these days have the kids do all sorts of things that IMO
>> don't relate to the class. She just had to build an alien out of
>> household objects for geometry and write a report about the alien. What
>> planet was it from? The name and gender and what it likes to eat and
>> do. Another year she had to photograph shapes for math. This involved
>> my buying a disposable camera and then finding some place to develop the
>> pics. Apparently not too many people do that these days. We are not
>> pic people! Which reminds me. I took a roof pic. Must put it up for
>> Gary.
>
> My college courses in the last few years had some strange projects, so I
> guess many teachers/professors are trying to make learning a little more
> interesting. I'm all for it.

I just don't like having to spend money on stuff like that.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 6/4/2014 10:36 PM, barbie gee wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:43:07 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> surely Angela has learned something about French cuisine in the class,
>>>>> especially if the assignment requires that she make something herself
>>>>> (which seems more appropriate for a cooking class, but hey what do I
>>>>> know about education)
>>>>
>>>> I think the instructions were misinterpreted by someone, but I haven't
>>>> seen or heard them - so that detail is lost. In any case, it doesn't
>>>> matter. If this is a way Julie can get Angela into the kitchen,
>>>> "cooking" or at least helping cook, what's wrong with that?
>>>>
>>> She was actually absent when the assignment was given out so she may
>>> have gotten some details wrong. She agreed to do the cookies because
>>> everyone else had signed up for things like pastry, vegetables and
>>> cheese. So far no other cookies.
>>
>> So, she has neither friends in the class to ask about the assignment,
>> nor is she able to speak to the teacher to find out what the assignment
>> was?
>>
> Julie could also call the teacher and ask. That's what I would do.

No. They don't take calls. They do take emails. They asked me to quit
doing it. Angela is supposed to do it. No matter now on this though as it
is as well as a done deal.

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 6/4/2014 2:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On 6/4/2014 3:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>> Angela needs to make some authentic French food to take to her
>>>>>>>> French
>>>>>>>> class. I think it is next week that she needs it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheat. Buy a package of ready made miniature croissants, make a
>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>> batch of ganache. While the ganache is still soft, slice each
>>>>>>> croissant in half, spread a generous amount of ganache inside. Call
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> pain au chocolat. Not genuine, but close enough for school.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks! I had thought of something like that but I don't think that
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> would feel that she made it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then get her a cookbook and make her *make* something. It sure
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> sound like you're going to make her actually do anything.
>>>>
>>>> I am not going to go buy a cookbook for a project. I don't even *use*
>>>> cookbooks any more. The Internet is loaded with recipes. I was just
>>>> asking
>>>> for suggestions. French is not a cuisine I am overly familiar with.
>>>
>>> surely Angela has learned something about French cuisine in the class,
>>> especially if the assignment requires that she make something herself
>>> (which seems more appropriate for a cooking class, but hey what do I
>>> know about education)
>>
>> No, they didn't really. She's only in the first year and they only just
>> began learning the food names. She had to declare today what she was
>> bringing so there were no duplicates. She said she would take the
>> cookies,
>> although she couldn't remember the name. Now I have to go see if I still
>> have my old cookie press. And if it works. It would be around 20 years
>> old.
>>
>> Apparently cheese was okay as some girl signed up to bring that.
>>
>> The schools these days have the kids do all sorts of things that IMO
>> don't
>> relate to the class. She just had to build an alien out of household
>> objects for geometry and write a report about the alien. What planet was
>> it
>> from? The name and gender and what it likes to eat and do. Another year
>> she had to photograph shapes for math. This involved my buying a
>> disposable
>> camera and then finding some place to develop the pics. Apparently not
>> too
>> many people do that these days. We are not pic people! Which reminds
>> me.
>> I took a roof pic. Must put it up for Gary.
>>
>> At any rate, I guess I picked a good recipe as nobody else signed up to
>> make
>> that. I figured it was fitting as one of her nicknames is Crazy Cat
>> Lady.
>
> God Bless America! I wonder what non-English speaking people bring to
> their English classes. Hot dogs and French fries? Hamburgers? Pizza?

One summer they required her to take a math class. I did not want her to
take it. They thought it was a monetary thing so gave me a scholarship. I
only had to pay something like $25 instead of something like $275. The
class was a total waste of time. She did not learn a thing. The class
turned out to be kids from 1st to 5th grade with the work being tailored to
the younger kids.

Worst still we had a record high heat wave during that time period. She had
to be driven to a school in Woodinville. Husband was not working for much
of that time period so I didn't have to drive much but... The room was in
the center of the school. No window to open to let in air. Just a big box
fan that blew hot air. The class was something like 2.5 hours a day for a
couple of weeks.

At the end of this, they had a Hoe Down. They had been studying the Oregon
Trail. So we were told to bring something that the pioneers would have
eaten or made during that time frame. I did have written instructions on
that one. We were supposed to make the food. I decided to make dried
apples. We did have to use the dehydrator which they would not have had but
the end result was about the same.

So what did the other people bring? Pizza, donuts, all purchased items.
Nobody but us stuck to the assignment. Worse still, the instructions told
us to dress for the hoe down. We don't have clothing like that so I bought
us all bandanas and we wore jeans. Guess who looked like idiots? Yep. Us
and the teachers. We were the only ones who dressed up.

I really hate it when a teacher sends out an assignment and then at the last
minute, changes the rules. The same thing happened with some assignment
that Angela had last year although what it was now escapes me. Was
something they were supposed to have worked on all semester long, which she
did. But a couple of weeks before the end of the semester, the teacher said
most of the kids hadn't done it so he was scrapping it. Bah! Let them get
a bad grade! He didn't even give extra credit to the few kids who did do
the project.

On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 20:10:31 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>The friend is the one who told her what she told her. It's all a moot point
>now anyway. She said she would bring the cookies. They're French and they
>look easy enough to make.

French 'cookies'. Right.