On 6/7/2014 4:42 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 08:06:02 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:

>> Seattle must have some very strange schools. I've never heard of a
>> teacher insisting all students have cell phones with cameras. In my
>> area (South Carolina) if students take cell phones to school they must
>> be turned *off*. If caught texting or web surfing in class, the phone
>> is confiscated and the kid gets sent home with a note; they have to
>> explain to their parents what happened.
>
> That makes much more sense.
> Julie's tale, OTOH...

I thought most of the time school assignments were available
online, these days. Sure seems more reasonable than having
kids call the teacher for a forgotten homework assignment.

nancy

On 2014-06-07 4:42 PM, Jeßus wrote:

>> Seattle must have some very strange schools. I've never heard of a
>> teacher insisting all students have cell phones with cameras. In my
>> area (South Carolina) if students take cell phones to school they must
>> be turned *off*. If caught texting or web surfing in class, the phone
>> is confiscated and the kid gets sent home with a note; they have to
>> explain to their parents what happened.
>
> That makes much more sense.
> Julie's tale, OTOH...
>


...... is just another Julie tale.

On 6/5/2014 11:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> If I
> want or need something, I'll buy it and be done with it.

I wish I could do that. Would you consider buying me a new vacuum? Mine
doesn't suck anymore. A Dyson would be good. TIA!

--
DreadfulBitch

I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfect.

On 6/4/2014 11:31 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>
> Julie could also call the teacher and ask. That's what I would do.
>
My son will begin his student teaching assignment this fall. Throughout
his college training the education students have been told to not give
their phone number to students, the main reason being to eliminate that
as a possible means of improper contact between teacher and student. Of
course, prospective teachers are also told to never be alone with a
student for any reason. Things have changed a great deal in the past
few decades.

--
DreadfulBitch

I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfect.

On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 17:02:56 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 6/7/2014 4:42 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 08:06:02 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>
>>> Seattle must have some very strange schools. I've never heard of a
>>> teacher insisting all students have cell phones with cameras. In my
>>> area (South Carolina) if students take cell phones to school they must
>>> be turned *off*. If caught texting or web surfing in class, the phone
>>> is confiscated and the kid gets sent home with a note; they have to
>>> explain to their parents what happened.
>>
>> That makes much more sense.
>> Julie's tale, OTOH...
>
>I thought most of the time school assignments were available
>online, these days. Sure seems more reasonable than having
>kids call the teacher for a forgotten homework assignment.

It does. Will this teacher fail students who don't have a mobile
phone?

On 6/7/2014 5:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 6/7/2014 4:42 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 08:06:02 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>
>>> Seattle must have some very strange schools. I've never heard of a
>>> teacher insisting all students have cell phones with cameras. In my
>>> area (South Carolina) if students take cell phones to school they must
>>> be turned *off*. If caught texting or web surfing in class, the phone
>>> is confiscated and the kid gets sent home with a note; they have to
>>> explain to their parents what happened.
>>
>> That makes much more sense.
>> Julie's tale, OTOH...
>
> I thought most of the time school assignments were available
> online, these days. Sure seems more reasonable than having
> kids call the teacher for a forgotten homework assignment.
>
> nancy
>
Julie did mention online access. And some convoluted reason, they
changed the web site so the the teachers couldn't put up school
assignments. Then they fixed it. It's so difficult to keep up.

At one point Julie said they don't use books at all anymore. Oh how sad!

Then she mentioned how hard it was for her daughter to get to class in
such a short time between periods because she's got a heavy backpack.
Doesn't make sense to need a backpack if you don't have to carry books.
Or notebooks, pencils or pens. Apparently all they need is a cell
phone with a camera. :-D

Jill

On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 22:52:18 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 6/7/2014 5:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 6/7/2014 4:42 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 08:06:02 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Seattle must have some very strange schools. I've never heard of a
>>>> teacher insisting all students have cell phones with cameras. In my
>>>> area (South Carolina) if students take cell phones to school they must
>>>> be turned *off*. If caught texting or web surfing in class, the phone
>>>> is confiscated and the kid gets sent home with a note; they have to
>>>> explain to their parents what happened.
>>>
>>> That makes much more sense.
>>> Julie's tale, OTOH...
>>
>> I thought most of the time school assignments were available
>> online, these days. Sure seems more reasonable than having
>> kids call the teacher for a forgotten homework assignment.
>>
>Julie did mention online access. And some convoluted reason, they
>changed the web site so the the teachers couldn't put up school
>assignments. Then they fixed it. It's so difficult to keep up.
>
>At one point Julie said they don't use books at all anymore. Oh how sad!
>
>Then she mentioned how hard it was for her daughter to get to class in
>such a short time between periods because she's got a heavy backpack.
>Doesn't make sense to need a backpack if you don't have to carry books.
> Or notebooks, pencils or pens. Apparently all they need is a cell
>phone with a camera. :-D

A school with no books.
R i g h t . . .

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>
>> > I definitely agree. It's one thing to say something in passing, like my
>> > dh
>> > doesn't cook, my grandsons like a certain food etc., but when you get
>> > into
>> > personal unflattering details about them on Usenet, well...you have to
>> > expect that others are going to chime in.
>>
>> And who is to judge what is unflattering?
>
> Well obviously, YOU do. Every week you report here the deeply
> unflattering details of your husband and daughter's selfishness, their
> rudeness and unkindness to you both in public and at home, their
> domestic laziness/incompetence, their unreasonable demands, their
> unwillingness to support you, their refusal to co-operate, the ways they
> treat you as a domestic drudge.

Uh, no. But people here do twist what I say.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/6/2014 7:28 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 21:02:31 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think you can do that! I said that they are required
>>> to take pics of the board. I can't remember now what it is called. Not
>>> a
>>> white board but something like that. Where the assignments are listed.
>>> The
>>> English teacher urged us to buy them phones with photo capabilities if
>>> they
>>> did not have them. That way they did not have to take notes and did not
>>> have any excuses.
>>
>> The teacher should be fired, if that's true at all.
>>
>>
> Seattle must have some very strange schools. I've never heard of a
> teacher insisting all students have cell phones with cameras. In my area
> (South Carolina) if students take cell phones to school they must be
> turned *off*. If caught texting or web surfing in class, the phone is
> confiscated and the kid gets sent home with a note; they have to explain
> to their parents what happened.

I never said that the teacher insisted. But he said they should have them.
They use them in all of their classes to take notes and things. Cell phones
do not have to be turned off here, but the ringer must be off. They do text
in school.

Seattle is a very different place. Very. If you don't live here, I
wouldn't expect you to get it. I'll just say that when I moved to Cape Cod
I was extremely shocked at how backwards I thought it was there. ATMs were
new to them as were home computers and even the Internet. I had been
working POS and many stores didn't even have such a system yet. They were
still using the old fashioned price stickers. This would have been almost
20 years ago.

My style of dress also made me stick out like a sore thumb. It is not
uncommon for people to wander around in pajamas or bedroom slippers here.
You rarely see anyone dressed up and when you do, it is usually a Mormon out
preaching.

People on Cape Cod were still into that preppy look. We're just very casual
here.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> Seattle must have some very strange schools. I've never heard of a
>> teacher insisting all students have cell phones with cameras. In my
>> area (South Carolina) if students take cell phones to school they must
>> be turned *off*. If caught texting or web surfing in class, the phone
>> is confiscated and the kid gets sent home with a note; they have to
>> explain to their parents what happened.
>
> When my daughter was in high school, there were no cell phones (or
> maybe they just started and were rare). She had a pager back then. If
> students were caught on school grounds just with a pager, they got
> expelled from school for the year. Back then, the "authorities"
> assumed pagers were only for drug dealers.

They are not usually using their phones in class to communicate with each
other but using the screen for notes or taking pics with it of assignments
and things. I didn't want her to bring the phone to school and I hadn't
allowed it in Jr. High. But in High school? All the rules changed.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/7/2014 4:42 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 08:06:02 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>
>>> Seattle must have some very strange schools. I've never heard of a
>>> teacher insisting all students have cell phones with cameras. In my
>>> area (South Carolina) if students take cell phones to school they must
>>> be turned *off*. If caught texting or web surfing in class, the phone
>>> is confiscated and the kid gets sent home with a note; they have to
>>> explain to their parents what happened.
>>
>> That makes much more sense.
>> Julie's tale, OTOH...
>
> I thought most of the time school assignments were available
> online, these days. Sure seems more reasonable than having
> kids call the teacher for a forgotten homework assignment.

They were here. Was that way in Jr. High too. That was bookless. They
usually had a very few books available only for those low income students
who could not afford a home computer, but the Shoreline district which is
another suburb of Seattle, gives low income students a laptop and finds them
a way for cheap or free (to them) Internet. They do of course have to give
the laptops back when they graduate.

The only problem now is that after the school district updated the website,
the screwed some things up and the teachers no longer have the ability to
post the assignments online. They try but the changes never go through.
They can't update anything. And apparently there is also some sort of
screw-up on the progress report portion as well which lists grades and
absences. It just isn't updating like it should which is very frustrating
to me. I have to keep calling to say that she wasn't absent. She was in
another area of the school taking a required test. The teacher in that case
got back to me and said that the corrections had been made and the computer
was showing the right thing but it still isn't right online.

The math and in some years, the science book is online via the online book
website but there have been screw-up's there too. The school has to pay for
this access but it is still cheaper than buying a book for each student.
They assign the log in information and password but... At the start of this
year, those things didn't work. The kids tried to do their homework but
could not because they could not log in. Took about a week to fix it and by
then they were waaaay behind in their work.

It's also difficult if we lose power or our Internet connection. The math
site uses Flash which you can't have on an Iphone or Ipad. So she either
can't do the work or we have to go to someone's house and borrow their
computer. But some nights she doesn't get home from dance until 9 or so and
then it is too late because the place we would have to go to do this are in
another city.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/7/2014 5:02 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 6/7/2014 4:42 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 08:06:02 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Seattle must have some very strange schools. I've never heard of a
>>>> teacher insisting all students have cell phones with cameras. In my
>>>> area (South Carolina) if students take cell phones to school they must
>>>> be turned *off*. If caught texting or web surfing in class, the phone
>>>> is confiscated and the kid gets sent home with a note; they have to
>>>> explain to their parents what happened.
>>>
>>> That makes much more sense.
>>> Julie's tale, OTOH...
>>
>> I thought most of the time school assignments were available
>> online, these days. Sure seems more reasonable than having
>> kids call the teacher for a forgotten homework assignment.
>>
>> nancy
>>
> Julie did mention online access. And some convoluted reason, they changed
> the web site so the the teachers couldn't put up school assignments. Then
> they fixed it. It's so difficult to keep up.
>
No, it hasn't been fixed yet this year. The same exact thing happened last
year and it never was fixed until the start of this year.

> At one point Julie said they don't use books at all anymore. Oh how sad!
>
Right. No books and not sad at all. They have to lug enough stuff home.
As it is, some backpacks weigh 40-50 pounds. Books would add even more
weight! Much is done with a flashdrive now but... The school has Macs and
there is some sort of problem in trying to transfer data in Word from a Mac
to a PC. I can't explain it but... When she tried to plug in the science
assigment she had been working on, it was all gibberish. All those hours
wasted and she had to rewrite it on the PC. So fine for those kids who have
a Mac at home, but we don't.Thanks

> Then she mentioned how hard it was for her daughter to get to class in
> such a short time between periods because she's got a heavy backpack.
> Doesn't make sense to need a backpack if you don't have to carry books. Or
> notebooks, pencils or pens. Apparently all they need is a cell phone with
> a camera. :-D

She has to carry a separate notebook for each class and one is very large.
They do have to pack either a book to read or some sort of Ereader. And a
lunch. And a ruler, pencils, pens, colored pencils, sharpies, highlighters,
Post Its, and other things. Also a bottle of water. And she usually has
coffee as well.

When I was in High School, I only needed a Peechee and a pen. I don't
remember every carrying a book back and forth. We didn't use many books
then either. We never had enough to go around and we had to share. So
there were none to take home.

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>
>> And I can't see what was wrong with it. It's not like *she* would be
>> posting here. How many kids/teens use Usenet anyway? Not many.
>
>
> ANY teen (and all their mates) knows how to use google; and all she
> needs do is google your name, or your name followed by hers.
>
> She doesn't need to even know usenet exists, for google to show her
> every dismal disloyal thing you ever wrote on usenet or any other place
> anywhere on the internet, about herself or her father.
>
> So can all her classmates.

Yeah well... I can do that too. And I have. There are also other people
with my name. They have pics up too. They're not me.

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>
>> I have never thrown my family under the bus!
>
> You have taken them apart, in public, on the internet. Not just on
> usenet.
>
>> What I don't get is all the
>> people here who act like they have perfect families.
>
> No. What you don't "get" is that this is not a family therapy room
> nor is it private.
>
> The vast majority of people here love and respect their families enough
> to excercise discretion and loyalty.

I would find that very hard to believe because it would seem that quite a
few here are very nasty indeed. They say horrible things to me and about my
family, my family that they don't even know. So I can't imagine that they
would be kind to their own families.

"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/5/2014 11:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> If I
>> want or need something, I'll buy it and be done with it.
>
> I wish I could do that. Would you consider buying me a new vacuum? Mine
> doesn't suck anymore. A Dyson would be good. TIA!
>
I can't even afford a Dyson. Mine cost $70.

"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/4/2014 11:31 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> Julie could also call the teacher and ask. That's what I would do.
>>
> My son will begin his student teaching assignment this fall. Throughout
> his college training the education students have been told to not give
> their phone number to students, the main reason being to eliminate that as
> a possible means of improper contact between teacher and student. Of
> course, prospective teachers are also told to never be alone with a
> student for any reason. Things have changed a great deal in the past few
> decades.
>
Yes. When I was in school, you could call the teacher via the school. They
do not want you to do that now. Too disruptive. You may get a call from
the teacher. I did because it was over something important that I will not
get into here. I think he felt it better to explain it to me over the phone
as it was a bit convoluted and he may have felt that I might misunderstand
had he sent an email. But email is what they want us to do if we need to
communicate with the school or the teacher. Nobody ever answers when I do
call the school. I just get the answering machine and I have never, ever
gotten a call back from the office, despite my repeatedly calling over the
same thing. Got no email either. There are just far too many students at
this school. Too many really for them to handle, which is why they are
building the new school.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

> My style of dress also made me stick out like a sore thumb. It is not
> uncommon for people to wander around in pajamas or bedroom slippers here.
> You rarely see anyone dressed up and when you do, it is usually a Mormon
> out preaching.
>
> People on Cape Cod were still into that preppy look. We're just very
> casual here.

People walking around in pajamas and slippers outside of the home is not
casual, it's as the old joke says..."I've given up all hope of ever trying
to look presentable, so I might as well be comfortable."

Cheri

On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 22:01:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:


>Right. No books and not sad at all.

I find that very hard to believe.

>They have to lug enough stuff home.

So WHAT if they have a lot to lug home? You seem to want to coddle and
indulge the living shit out of your daughter. You're setting her up
for a miserable life once she has to fend for herself in the real
world.

>As it is, some backpacks weigh 40-50 pounds. Books would add even more
>weight! Much is done with a flashdrive now but... The school has Macs and
>there is some sort of problem in trying to transfer data in Word from a Mac
>to a PC. I can't explain it but... When she tried to plug in the science
>assigment she had been working on, it was all gibberish. All those hours
>wasted and she had to rewrite it on the PC. So fine for those kids who have
>a Mac at home, but we don't.Thanks

Her school doesnt teach IT in any form? No reason she couldn't read
and write to the file without problems at home. Mac or PC is
irrelevant.

>> Then she mentioned how hard it was for her daughter to get to class in
>> such a short time between periods because she's got a heavy backpack.
>> Doesn't make sense to need a backpack if you don't have to carry books. Or
>> notebooks, pencils or pens. Apparently all they need is a cell phone with
>> a camera. :-D
>
>She has to carry a separate notebook for each class and one is very large.
>They do have to pack either a book to read or some sort of Ereader. And a
>lunch. And a ruler, pencils, pens, colored pencils, sharpies, highlighters,
>Post Its, and other things. Also a bottle of water. And she usually has
>coffee as well.

OMG, it's like the bad old days of children working in the mines...

>When I was in High School, I only needed a Peechee and a pen. I don't
>remember every carrying a book back and forth. We didn't use many books
>then either.

That explains a few things.

On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 21:55:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>> On 6/7/2014 4:42 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 08:06:02 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Seattle must have some very strange schools. I've never heard of a
>>>> teacher insisting all students have cell phones with cameras. In my
>>>> area (South Carolina) if students take cell phones to school they must
>>>> be turned *off*. If caught texting or web surfing in class, the phone
>>>> is confiscated and the kid gets sent home with a note; they have to
>>>> explain to their parents what happened.
>>>
>>> That makes much more sense.
>>> Julie's tale, OTOH...
>>
>> I thought most of the time school assignments were available
>> online, these days. Sure seems more reasonable than having
>> kids call the teacher for a forgotten homework assignment.
>
>They were here. Was that way in Jr. High too. That was bookless. They
>usually had a very few books available only for those low income students
>who could not afford a home computer, but the Shoreline district which is
>another suburb of Seattle, gives low income students a laptop and finds them
>a way for cheap or free (to them) Internet. They do of course have to give
>the laptops back when they graduate.
>
>The only problem now is that after the school district updated the website,
>the screwed some things up and the teachers no longer have the ability to
>post the assignments online. They try but the changes never go through.
>They can't update anything. And apparently there is also some sort of
>screw-up on the progress report portion as well which lists grades and
>absences. It just isn't updating like it should which is very frustrating
>to me. I have to keep calling to say that she wasn't absent. She was in
>another area of the school taking a required test. The teacher in that case
>got back to me and said that the corrections had been made and the computer
>was showing the right thing but it still isn't right online.
>
>The math and in some years, the science book is online via the online book
>website but there have been screw-up's there too. The school has to pay for
>this access but it is still cheaper than buying a book for each student.
>They assign the log in information and password but... At the start of this
>year, those things didn't work. The kids tried to do their homework but
>could not because they could not log in. Took about a week to fix it and by
>then they were waaaay behind in their work.
>
>It's also difficult if we lose power or our Internet connection. The math
>site uses Flash which you can't have on an Iphone or Ipad. So she either
>can't do the work or we have to go to someone's house and borrow their
>computer. But some nights she doesn't get home from dance until 9 or so and
>then it is too late because the place we would have to go to do this are in
>another city.

If even a fraction of the above is true- what a fvcked up education
system you have there.

On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 23:08:18 -0500, barbie gee >
wrote:

>On Sat, 7 Jun 2014, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>>> . How many kids/teens use Usenet anyway? Not many.
>>>>
>>>> She may not be curious yet about what you are doing on here,
>>>> but believe me, the time will come!
>>>
>>> I doubt it.
>>
>> Angela might not look but some her friends probably will. If it's a
>> joking matter, it might get posted to all her school friends.
>> Whatever you write becomes public and can come back to haunt you even
>> years later. I can't believe what Bryan writes for the same reason.
>
>How are we all forgetting that "usenet" as in the old days has much of its
>content now absorbed into "Google Groups"?

We didn't forget (aside from Julie of course).

>Unless you've got x-no archive
>set,

Of which not all servers will acknowledge anyway... and there are
other sites out there collecting posts, not just google.

>some of that stuff is there and very readily searchable without
>needing a specialized newsreader like back in the old days.

Yep.

On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 18:20:00 -0500, DreadfulBitch
> wrote:

>On 6/4/2014 11:31 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> Julie could also call the teacher and ask. That's what I would do.
>>
>My son will begin his student teaching assignment this fall. Throughout
>his college training the education students have been told to not give
>their phone number to students, the main reason being to eliminate that
>as a possible means of improper contact between teacher and student. Of
>course, prospective teachers are also told to never be alone with a
>student for any reason. Things have changed a great deal in the past
>few decades.

Sad, really.

On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 22:13:51 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
...
>> On 6/5/2014 11:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> If I
>>> want or need something, I'll buy it and be done with it.
>>
>> I wish I could do that. Would you consider buying me a new vacuum? Mine
>> doesn't suck anymore. A Dyson would be good. TIA!
>>
>I can't even afford a Dyson. Mine cost $70.

"If I want or need something, I'll buy it and be done with it"

On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 22:07:37 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Janet" > wrote in message
et...
>> In article >, says...
>>
>>> And I can't see what was wrong with it. It's not like *she* would be
>>> posting here. How many kids/teens use Usenet anyway? Not many.
>>
>> ANY teen (and all their mates) knows how to use google; and all she
>> needs do is google your name, or your name followed by hers.
>>
>> She doesn't need to even know usenet exists, for google to show her
>> every dismal disloyal thing you ever wrote on usenet or any other place
>> anywhere on the internet, about herself or her father.
>>
>> So can all her classmates.
>
>Yeah well... I can do that too. And I have.

So then you already knew that they could look your posts up.
So what are you disagreeing with?

>There are also other people
>with my name. They have pics up too. They're not me.

Thanks for the clarification. Those interested might not have figured
that out for themselves.

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
hcrg.pbz...
>
>
> On Sat, 7 Jun 2014, Gary wrote:
>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>>> . How many kids/teens use Usenet anyway? Not many.
>>>>
>>>> She may not be curious yet about what you are doing on here,
>>>> but believe me, the time will come!
>>>
>>> I doubt it.
>>
>> Angela might not look but some her friends probably will. If it's a
>> joking matter, it might get posted to all her school friends.
>> Whatever you write becomes public and can come back to haunt you even
>> years later. I can't believe what Bryan writes for the same reason.
>>
>
> How are we all forgetting that "usenet" as in the old days has much of its
> content now absorbed into "Google Groups"? Unless you've got x-no archive
> set, some of that stuff is there and very readily searchable without
> needing a specialized newsreader like back in the old days.

It is but if I do a search of my name, a lot comes up that isn't even
related to me.

On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 22:09:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Janet" > wrote in message
et...
>> In article >, says...
>>
>>> I have never thrown my family under the bus!
>>
>> You have taken them apart, in public, on the internet. Not just on
>> usenet.
>>
>>> What I don't get is all the
>>> people here who act like they have perfect families.
>>
>> No. What you don't "get" is that this is not a family therapy room
>> nor is it private.
>>
>> The vast majority of people here love and respect their families enough
>> to excercise discretion and loyalty.
>
>I would find that very hard to believe because it would seem that quite a
>few here are very nasty indeed.

That makes absolutely no sense at all.

>They say horrible things to me and about my
>family, my family that they don't even know.

Say what?!?
LOL, you're a piece of work...

> So I can't imagine that they would be kind to their own families.

Bove logic. Can't beat it

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> My style of dress also made me stick out like a sore thumb. It is not
>> uncommon for people to wander around in pajamas or bedroom slippers here.
>> You rarely see anyone dressed up and when you do, it is usually a Mormon
>> out preaching.
>>
>> People on Cape Cod were still into that preppy look. We're just very
>> casual here.
>
> People walking around in pajamas and slippers outside of the home is not
> casual, it's as the old joke says..."I've given up all hope of ever trying
> to look presentable, so I might as well be comfortable."

Well it still is what a lot of people do here. Some even go to work that
way. I was shocked when I entered the Sleep Number store and a guy in PJs
came out. He was the clerk!

I don't bother to get dressed if I am not going anywhere. And I'll go
outside that way. I rarely ever wear PJs though. I usually wear
nightshirts that are like long Tshirts.

On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 22:51:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I don't bother to get dressed if I am not going anywhere. And I'll go
>outside that way.

Meanwhile, homosexuality rates skyrocket in Julie's neighbourhood...

On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 22:49:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>"barbie gee" > wrote in message
ghcrg.pbz...
>> On Sat, 7 Jun 2014, Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "Ophelia" wrote:
>>>>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>>>> . How many kids/teens use Usenet anyway? Not many.
>>>>>
>>>>> She may not be curious yet about what you are doing on here,
>>>>> but believe me, the time will come!
>>>>
>>>> I doubt it.
>>>
>>> Angela might not look but some her friends probably will. If it's a
>>> joking matter, it might get posted to all her school friends.
>>> Whatever you write becomes public and can come back to haunt you even
>>> years later. I can't believe what Bryan writes for the same reason.
>>>
>> How are we all forgetting that "usenet" as in the old days has much of its
>> content now absorbed into "Google Groups"? Unless you've got x-no archive
>> set, some of that stuff is there and very readily searchable without
>> needing a specialized newsreader like back in the old days.
>
>It is but if I do a search of my name, a lot comes up that isn't even
>related to me.

So how does that preclude anybody from finding the right Julie Bove?
It doesnt, of course. Don't assume just because you lack the ability
that others can't figure out a simple task like that.

In article >, says...

> Right. No books and not sad at all. They have to lug enough stuff home.
> As it is, some backpacks weigh 40-50 pounds. Books would add even more
> weight!

So do tell what she's carrying that isn't books yet weighs 40 to 50
lbs.

You already told us each class lasts almost an hour; so each school day
has a max of 7 classes. 7 notebooks do not weigh 40 to 50 lbs.

Janet UK

In article .pbz>,
says...
>
> On Sat, 7 Jun 2014, Gary wrote:
>
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> "Ophelia" wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
> >>> . How many kids/teens use Usenet anyway? Not many.
> >>>
> >>> She may not be curious yet about what you are doing on here,
> >>> but believe me, the time will come!
> >>
> >> I doubt it.
> >
> > Angela might not look but some her friends probably will. If it's a
> > joking matter, it might get posted to all her school friends.
> > Whatever you write becomes public and can come back to haunt you even
> > years later. I can't believe what Bryan writes for the same reason.
> >
>
> How are we all forgetting that "usenet" as in the old days has much of its
> content now absorbed into "Google Groups"? Unless you've got x-no archive
> set, some of that stuff is there and very readily searchable without
> needing a specialized newsreader like back in the old days.

Google groups is just the tip of the iceberg, ONE of the many free,
searchable web portal archives of usenet groups.

Janet UK

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>
>> Right. No books and not sad at all. They have to lug enough stuff home.
>> As it is, some backpacks weigh 40-50 pounds. Books would add even more
>> weight!
>
> So do tell what she's carrying that isn't books yet weighs 40 to 50
> lbs.
>
I told you. Notebooks, various kinds of paper, pens, pencils, Sharpies,
colored pencils, a special ruler, special calculator (forgot that), student
planner, water, lunch, a book to read (that I purchased) or she could have
an Ereader if she chooses, a flash drive, probably some other things that I
don't know about.

> You already told us each class lasts almost an hour; so each school day
> has a max of 7 classes. 7 notebooks do not weigh 40 to 50 lbs.

Nope. 6 classes. I did not say that *her* backpack weighs that much. I
haven't actually weighed it but I can barely pick it up. I don't know how
she puts it on her back. And notebooks filled with paper, do weigh a lot.
She has the sturdy kind, about 3" thick. She has to have the largest
backpack we can find. She is not alone. The other kids have the same.

However, I have seen figures on how much the average student's backpack can
weigh. And that is the average that I have seen. One of her Dr. said the
same. Said that she hated them and wanted her to get a rolling one but not
feasible given all the stairs that they have at the school. And in
elementary school they were not allowed as they were too hard to get up and
down the bus steps.

In article >, says...
>
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> t...
> > In article >, says...
> >
> >> And I can't see what was wrong with it. It's not like *she* would be
> >> posting here. How many kids/teens use Usenet anyway? Not many.
> >
> >
> > ANY teen (and all their mates) knows how to use google; and all she
> > needs do is google your name, or your name followed by hers.
> >
> > She doesn't need to even know usenet exists, for google to show her
> > every dismal disloyal thing you ever wrote on usenet or any other place
> > anywhere on the internet, about herself or her father.
> >
> > So can all her classmates.
>
> Yeah well... I can do that too. And I have. There are also other people
> with my name. They have pics up too. They're not me.

All the ones who repeatedly identify themselves as the Julie Bove
living in Seattle with a problem husband, banging on about their
daughter and cats with the same names as your daughter and cats, same
multiple health problems, are you.


Janet UK

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article .pbz>,
> says...
>>
>> On Sat, 7 Jun 2014, Gary wrote:
>>
>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Ophelia" wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>> >>> . How many kids/teens use Usenet anyway? Not many.
>> >>>
>> >>> She may not be curious yet about what you are doing on here,
>> >>> but believe me, the time will come!
>> >>
>> >> I doubt it.
>> >
>> > Angela might not look but some her friends probably will. If it's a
>> > joking matter, it might get posted to all her school friends.
>> > Whatever you write becomes public and can come back to haunt you even
>> > years later. I can't believe what Bryan writes for the same reason.
>> >
>>
>> How are we all forgetting that "usenet" as in the old days has much of
>> its
>> content now absorbed into "Google Groups"? Unless you've got x-no
>> archive
>> set, some of that stuff is there and very readily searchable without
>> needing a specialized newsreader like back in the old days.
>
> Google groups is just the tip of the iceberg, ONE of the many free,
> searchable web portal archives of usenet groups.

I guess you are into doing that then. I'm not.

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
>
> > Right. No books and not sad at all. They have to lug enough stuff home.
> > As it is, some backpacks weigh 40-50 pounds. Books would add even more
> > weight!
>
> So do tell what she's carrying that isn't books yet weighs 40 to 50
> lbs.
>
> You already told us each class lasts almost an hour; so each school day
> has a max of 7 classes. 7 notebooks do not weigh 40 to 50 lbs.

This is true. When my daughter was in high school (graduated in 97)
she often had to bring all of her books home to study or do homework.
I wouldn't be surprised if her backpack weighed 30 -40 pounds. I never
weighed it but I did carry it out to the car sometimes.

A school backpack without any books though? No way it's very heavy,
Julie.

I'm wondering about this no books now thing too. There's always enough
poor people in any area that can't afford cell phones, computers, and
monthly internet access. I find it very hard to believe that they do
all this book thing by computer. I know that some text books include a
supporting disk or website but you still have to buy the book.

I know some families here with kids high school age. I plan to ask if
they use books.

On 6/8/2014 7:51 AM, Gary wrote:
> I know some families here with kids high school age. I plan to ask if
> they use books.

I'd love to hear the answer, Gary. While I understand teachers often
have to pay for some school supplies out of their own pockets due to
budget constraints, I simply cannot imagine a school not using text books.

Jill

On 6/8/2014 1:32 AM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 18:20:00 -0500, DreadfulBitch
> > wrote:
>
>> On 6/4/2014 11:31 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>>
>>> Julie could also call the teacher and ask. That's what I would do.
>>>
>> My son will begin his student teaching assignment this fall. Throughout
>> his college training the education students have been told to not give
>> their phone number to students, the main reason being to eliminate that
>> as a possible means of improper contact between teacher and student. Of
>> course, prospective teachers are also told to never be alone with a
>> student for any reason. Things have changed a great deal in the past
>> few decades.
>
> Sad, really.

Never in all my school days did I have my teacher's phone number.
Not one of them. It would never have occurred to me to call them.
You wrote the day's assignments in the back of your books, you
brought home the appropriate text books and if you couldn't
coordinate those tasks, you got to explain why no homework to
hand in the next day.

Such drama over a homework assignment. And I know this is maybe
a radical thing ... but after grade school, my mother didn't know
what my assignments were, I was expected to do my own homework.
Using all those heavy books I toted around.

Or go to the library, which wasn't a problem since I worked there
two hours a day all through high school.

nancy

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> t...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >
>> >> And I can't see what was wrong with it. It's not like *she* would be
>> >> posting here. How many kids/teens use Usenet anyway? Not many.
>> >
>> >
>> > ANY teen (and all their mates) knows how to use google; and all she
>> > needs do is google your name, or your name followed by hers.
>> >
>> > She doesn't need to even know usenet exists, for google to show her
>> > every dismal disloyal thing you ever wrote on usenet or any other place
>> > anywhere on the internet, about herself or her father.
>> >
>> > So can all her classmates.
>>
>> Yeah well... I can do that too. And I have. There are also other
>> people
>> with my name. They have pics up too. They're not me.
>
> All the ones who repeatedly identify themselves as the Julie Bove
> living in Seattle with a problem husband, banging on about their
> daughter and cats with the same names as your daughter and cats, same
> multiple health problems, are you.

"Banging on" means something entirely different in this country. We won't
go there. And I don't live in Seattle. But it is the Seattle area.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Janet wrote:
>>
>> In article >, says...
>>
>> > Right. No books and not sad at all. They have to lug enough stuff
>> > home.
>> > As it is, some backpacks weigh 40-50 pounds. Books would add even more
>> > weight!
>>
>> So do tell what she's carrying that isn't books yet weighs 40 to 50
>> lbs.
>>
>> You already told us each class lasts almost an hour; so each school day
>> has a max of 7 classes. 7 notebooks do not weigh 40 to 50 lbs.
>
> This is true. When my daughter was in high school (graduated in 97)
> she often had to bring all of her books home to study or do homework.
> I wouldn't be surprised if her backpack weighed 30 -40 pounds. I never
> weighed it but I did carry it out to the car sometimes.
>
> A school backpack without any books though? No way it's very heavy,
> Julie.
>
> I'm wondering about this no books now thing too. There's always enough
> poor people in any area that can't afford cell phones, computers, and
> monthly internet access. I find it very hard to believe that they do
> all this book thing by computer. I know that some text books include a
> supporting disk or website but you still have to buy the book.
>
> I know some families here with kids high school age. I plan to ask if
> they use books.

Until I went to grammar school, I didn't have many school books at home.
Boy oh boy, you should have seen my satchel!!! No back packs then

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 6/8/2014 7:51 AM, Gary wrote:
> > I know some families here with kids high school age. I plan to ask if
> > they use books.
>
> I'd love to hear the answer, Gary. While I understand teachers often
> have to pay for some school supplies out of their own pockets due to
> budget constraints, I simply cannot imagine a school not using text books.

I'll ask and let you know soon. It might take a few days though.
I have a relative that works for a large book publishing company.
Their "bread and butter" is printing textbooks for schools.

G.

PS - I suspect the fact that some teachers pay for supplies out of
their own pocket is the exception rather than the rule. Most places
just raise the school tax and let the citizens pay the extra.

When I was in college, the books I had to purchase for a 2-semester
class always cost more than the tuition for the 2 classes. And they
change the books every year or so, so you can only resell them as used
for one year. After that, the old books are no good and new students
have to buy new again.

And school text books are way over inflated too. It's a racket only
designed to keep the money flowing in for the book publishers. The
rich corporate enemies of the downtrodden poor and middle class. (Oh
Hi there, sf) heheh

On 2014-06-08 12:39 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
Well obviously, YOU do. Every week you report here the deeply
>> unflattering details of your husband and daughter's selfishness, their
>> rudeness and unkindness to you both in public and at home, their
>> domestic laziness/incompetence, their unreasonable demands, their
>> unwillingness to support you, their refusal to co-operate, the ways they
>> treat you as a domestic drudge.
>
> Uh, no. But people here do twist what I say.


You twist what you say.