> wrote in message
...

>>Dr. Oz... I wouldn't let him treat my cat. He comes up with such
>>astounding "revelations". Such as soaking in a hot bath with epsom
>>salts will help ease aches and pains. Eating a wide variety of foods
>>and eating in moderation is healthier. Damn, I must have gone to
>>medical school and didn't realize it. I should have my own TV show.
>>
>>Jill
>
> Don't knock the hot bath with Epsom Salts unless you have tried it,
> works very well for whatever reason.

It's stating the obvious though, sort of like brush your teeth to avoid a
myriad of dental problems.

Cheri

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

> That's true. But she did have a very sordid past and that is something I
> never heard her mention on her show. Maybe she did. I wasn't totally a
> faithful watcher of it. There was a time when my mom taped all of the
> shows and I would watch them over there on the weekend.

In the early years when I watched it, she did mention being molested etc. I
don't know about the later years.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> That's true. But she did have a very sordid past and that is something I
>> never heard her mention on her show. Maybe she did. I wasn't totally a
>> faithful watcher of it. There was a time when my mom taped all of the
>> shows and I would watch them over there on the weekend.
>
> In the early years when I watched it, she did mention being molested etc.
> I don't know about the later years.

It wasn't that. It was the fact that she used to be a prostitute. I don't
think I ever heard her mention that on the show.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 05:42:11 -0700, Cheri wrote:
>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> She is but... She is also very, very selective as to the people she
>>> will
>>> help. I also began to dislike her when she kept promoting Dr. Phil and
>>> Dr. Oz., both of whom I can not stand for a variety of reasons.
>>
>> I can't stand Dr. Phil or Dr. Oz. Dr Phil because he's a one man
>> infomercial
>> for his own products, and Dr. Oz because of his personality, but they are
>> highly successful. She might have given them a boost with her promotion,
>> but
>> they prettty much took it from there and ran with it.
>
> Both Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz shows are hosted by Oprah's production
> company, Harpo(*) Productions (and ObFood, so is the Rachel Ray show).
> So while she did get them their start, she is still very heavily
> involved in their TV antics (and let's not forget the equally
> obnoxious Rosie O'Donnel show).
>
> (*) Harpo is short for "Harpoon That Baby Whale" (not Oprah spelled
> backwards).
>
Rosie is one that I really can't stand. It's her personality and that phony
smile. Look closely. Her eyes never smile. Only her mouth and it is super
fake looking.

On 6/7/2014 12:24 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> That's true. But she did have a very sordid past and that is
>> something I never heard her mention on her show. Maybe she did. I
>> wasn't totally a faithful watcher of it. There was a time when my mom
>> taped all of the shows and I would watch them over there on the weekend.
>
> In the early years when I watched it, she did mention being molested
> etc. I don't know about the later years.
>
> Cheri
>
I got the impression that while Oprah didn't make light of the abuse or
being molested, she didn't want it to become the focal point of her show.

Jill

On 06/06/2014 10:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 12:07:46 -0600, graham wrote:
>
>> But far, far worse is Dr. Oz. He frequently has quacks on his show and
>> as he appears to take them seriously, he gives them credibility, which
>> is to be deplored!
>
> Is Dr Oz still a real doctor, or did he let his license lapse (like Dr
> Phil) so he's no longer bound by ethics concerns?
>
> -sw
>
Some MDs are so "open-minded" about various forms of quackery that it's
a wonder their brains haven't fallen out! Oz seems to lack any critical
faculties.
Graham

wrote:
>
> She is now a billionaire - more power to her - at least whatever other
> foibles she may have she spends quite a large part helping others.
> Have you done as much?

She does help people but bragging about it kind of turns me off. She
still retains more money than she would ever need for herself and
family.

Once you earn millions or billions, you better damn sure give some of
it away...the more the better. Otherwise all these liberal Demos here
will hate your ass. heheh Start tipping Walmart cashiers too while
you're at it. If you have the money, you can help them out too.

If enough people boycott Walmart stores, some of their employees will
lose their jobs. It might not be a great job but it's work. Some jobs
are part-time too, to make a bit of extra money. If you tip them like
restaurant employees, you can make a good difference in their lives.

Oh hi there, sf. Please do at least consider that. You can get
products cheaper at Walmart. Those savings, you could always pass on
to the employees as a tax-free tip. Consider that if you really care
about these people.

G.

On 6/4/2014 6:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/4/2014 4:27 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 15:34:47 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A couple of years ago I asked why they don't have a place to shoot pool.
>>> I'm not very good at it but I like it. I was told they don't have
>>> room for a pool table. Croquet, anyone?
>>>
>> Sounds like fun! Do they have a flat spot for croquet? We have a
>> croquet court at a nearby park. Another park has a bocce ball court
>> and adjacent to it is a lawn bowling court. In fact, I just googled
>> and we have *three* different lawn bowling court locations in that one
>> park.
>>
>>
> Yep, they do have a flat croquet "court" behind the clubhouse, although
> I'm not sure what they play is the lawn/garden croquet we grew up with.
> There are more coloured pegs than I remember and no hoops/wickets. My
> neighbor and I talked about that over lunch a few months ago. Oh, and
> on certain days you'd have to wear croquet "whites". How very 1900's.
> Where *does* one finds proper croquet attire? LOL
>
> Jill

When I was a kid, before I was a teenager, croquet was all the rage. We
played it at the club and we played it at home. There wasn't much for
kids to do at the club, other than swimming and playing croquet, I had
no interest in golf or tennis.

Becca

On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:03:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 07:45:10 -1000, dsi1
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >On 6/4/2014 6:35 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> >> On 6/4/2014 12:08 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >>> On 6/4/2014 3:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> >>>> Note: This is not a complaint, merely an observation.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> They're having a Men's Only event at the Club tomorrow night. A
>
> >>>> single-malt whiskey tasting, cigars on the veranda(h), NY strip steaks
>
> >>>> grilled to order, loaded baked potatoes, green beans almondine, bread &
>
> >>>> butter.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Wowsa! This is like a wayback machine circa 1900. Gentlemen, shall we
>
> >>>> take our leave for cigars and brandy? We can go discuss things women
>
> >>>> simply can't understand. LOL
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> On July 24th there's a Women's Only wine and chocolate tasting. Sure,
>
> >>>> because all women love chocolate. We sit around eating bonbons while
>
> >>>> watching soap operas. LOL
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Apparently they haven't figured out what else to feed women because the
>
> >>>> email says "details to follow, make your reservation now!"
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Reservations for what? They haven't figured out what they're going to
>
> >>>> feed us [women]. I'm pretty sure it won't be a "manly" meal of steak &
>
> >>>> baked potatoes. Probably some fru-fru chicken salad or something
>
> >>>> wrapped in a spinach tortilla.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Me, I'll take the strip steak, grilled no more than medium rare, the
>
> >>>> loaded baked potato and the green beans almondine. I wouldn't object to
>
> >>>> a sip of a good smooth single malt, either. :-D
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Jill
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Old people sure are funny, aren't they? :-)
>
> >>
>
> >> What's funny is the people who are planning these things aren't old. :-D
>
> >>
>
> >> Jill
>
> >
>
> >I think that whoever is planning/running the whole setup are goofballs.
>
> >They don't sound very professional. You guys should get rid of them.
>
>
>
>
>
> I couldn't be bothered to live there! They seem to cater to bunch of
>
> old has beens. If Jill doesn't fit that description then she should
>
> sell and move on instead of grumbling about it.

Oh, PLEASE - let's not start THAT discussion again. It's almost as tired as the Chronicles of La Bove.

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
crg.pbz...
>
>
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> That's true. But she did have a very sordid past and that is something
>>>> I never heard her mention on her show. Maybe she did. I wasn't
>>>> totally a faithful watcher of it. There was a time when my mom taped
>>>> all of the shows and I would watch them over there on the weekend.
>>>
>>> In the early years when I watched it, she did mention being molested
>>> etc. I don't know about the later years.
>>
>> It wasn't that. It was the fact that she used to be a prostitute. I
>> don't think I ever heard her mention that on the show.
>
> You sure about that? I did hear that Maya Angelou, but never Oprah.

Yep. Here are some links:

http://perezhilton.com/2010-04-19-op...s-a-prostitute

http://www.today.com/id/36415458/ns/...en-prostitute/

http://nypost.com/2010/04/13/*******...s-hidden-life/

There are more links but I did read it in her biography.

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
hcrg.pbz...
>
>
> On Sat, 7 Jun 2014, wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 11:24:00 -0500, barbie gee >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>>>>> message ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's true. But she did have a very sordid
>>>>>> past and that is something I never heard her
>>>>>> mention on her show. Maybe she did. I wasn't
>>>>>> totally a faithful watcher of it. There was a
>>>>>> time when my mom taped all of the shows and I
>>>>>> would watch them over there on the weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the early years when I watched it, she did
>>>>> mention being molested etc. I don't know about
>>>>> the later years.
>>>>
>>>> It wasn't that. It was the fact that she used to
>>>> be a prostitute. I don't think I ever heard her
>>>> mention that on the show.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You sure about that? I did hear that Maya Angelou, but never Oprah.
>>
>> I wondered about that too - she openly spoke about being sexually
>> molested as a child but somehow I don't see her as at all the type to
>> be a prostitute.
>>
>> Of course, as she climbed her way up on television there would be
>> plenty of jealous people who would spread a rumour like that. Used to
>> see that often when I worked with television they would say 'Oh of
>> course she gets all the spots, she sleeps with all the producers!' We
>> only had a half dozen producers so they were very busy men had it all
>> been true
>>
>
> I'm still trying to figure out what in the world Julie might mean by
> "sordid". It sounds so 1960's Peyton Place.

Before she was famous, she was a prostitute. She admitted to it in her book
but only many years after she was famous.

wrote:
>
> In case you don't
> understand sex, she was admitting to dropping into bed with anyone,
> she was not out on a sidewalk selling herself to a John.

If she was smarter back then, she should have asked for some $$$.
So good ol' Oprah was the school slut. Every school has a few.

G.

On 6/7/2014 11:24 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
> crg.pbz...
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> That's true. But she did have a very sordid past and that is
>>>>> something I never heard her mention on her show. Maybe she
>>>>> did. I wasn't totally a faithful watcher of it. There was a
>>>>> time when my mom taped all of the shows and I would watch
>>>>> them over there on the weekend.
>>>>
>>>> In the early years when I watched it, she did mention being
>>>> molested etc. I don't know about the later years.
>>>
>>> It wasn't that. It was the fact that she used to be a
>>> prostitute. I don't think I ever heard her mention that on the
>>> show.
>>
>> You sure about that? I did hear that Maya Angelou, but never
>> Oprah.
>
> Yep. Here are some links:
>
> http://perezhilton.com/2010-04-19-op...s-a-prostitute
>
> http://www.today.com/id/36415458/ns/...en-prostitute/
>
>
>
> http://nypost.com/2010/04/13/*******...s-hidden-life/
>
>
>
> There are more links but I did read it in her biography.


The only person who claims that Oprah was a prostitute, is Kitty Kelly,
and she is trying to sell books, not tell the truth.

Becca

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/7/2014 11:24 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "barbie gee" > wrote in message
>> crg.pbz...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's true. But she did have a very sordid past and that is
>>>>>> something I never heard her mention on her show. Maybe she
>>>>>> did. I wasn't totally a faithful watcher of it. There was a
>>>>>> time when my mom taped all of the shows and I would watch
>>>>>> them over there on the weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the early years when I watched it, she did mention being
>>>>> molested etc. I don't know about the later years.
>>>>
>>>> It wasn't that. It was the fact that she used to be a
>>>> prostitute. I don't think I ever heard her mention that on the
>>>> show.
>>>
>>> You sure about that? I did hear that Maya Angelou, but never
>>> Oprah.
>>
>> Yep. Here are some links:
>>
>> http://perezhilton.com/2010-04-19-op...s-a-prostitute
>>
>> http://www.today.com/id/36415458/ns/...en-prostitute/
>>
>>
>>
>> http://nypost.com/2010/04/13/*******...s-hidden-life/
>>
>>
>>
>> There are more links but I did read it in her biography.
>
>
> The only person who claims that Oprah was a prostitute, is Kitty Kelly,
> and she is trying to sell books, not tell the truth.

I'm not sure which book I read that said this. But it wasn't a recent one.

On 6/5/2014 4:00 PM, graham wrote:
> On 05/06/2014 12:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> It seems like a hell of a lot of
>> medical treatment and surgery for a man who thinks he a woman to become
>> a *******.
>
> But it's not at all unusual. A psychologist or psychiatrist in the US
> stated that it's quite common for these transgendered men to end up in
> relationships with *******s as they never lose aspects of their
> masculinity. By coincidence, I know of 2 men who had the operation and
> are now shacked up with *******s.
> It's a funny world!
> Graham
>

I get a distinct feeling from one subset of these men that their
obsession with sex change is actually a sexual fetish, rather than
being a case of body/gender dysmorphia. They are so into dressing and
acting as women that they want to take it to the point of being
legally recognized as women, though they don't really want to
sacrifice their penis, because that's not the point of their fetish.
Their makeup, dress, and mannerisms are exaggeratedly feminine - based
on what they think being female is about, not based on what it is for
the average woman. They're not interested in being just an average
woman - they want to be the va-va-voom woman you only see in movies
and tv (and sometimes working the street corners). And since they're
still really heterosexual guys at heart, they want to still have sex
with women, just while dressing and acting as they think women do.

"Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/5/2014 4:00 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 05/06/2014 12:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> It seems like a hell of a lot of
>>> medical treatment and surgery for a man who thinks he a woman to become
>>> a *******.
>>
>> But it's not at all unusual. A psychologist or psychiatrist in the US
>> stated that it's quite common for these transgendered men to end up in
>> relationships with *******s as they never lose aspects of their
>> masculinity. By coincidence, I know of 2 men who had the operation and
>> are now shacked up with *******s.
>> It's a funny world!
>> Graham
>>
>
> I get a distinct feeling from one subset of these men that their obsession
> with sex change is actually a sexual fetish, rather than being a case of
> body/gender dysmorphia. They are so into dressing and acting as women that
> they want to take it to the point of being legally recognized as women,
> though they don't really want to sacrifice their penis, because that's not
> the point of their fetish. Their makeup, dress, and mannerisms are
> exaggeratedly feminine - based on what they think being female is about,
> not based on what it is for the average woman. They're not interested in
> being just an average woman - they want to be the va-va-voom woman you
> only see in movies and tv (and sometimes working the street corners). And
> since they're still really heterosexual guys at heart, they want to still
> have sex with women, just while dressing and acting as they think women
> do.

I believe you are right. I have spoken to someone online and I think he/she
fits that profile. I also know of a case of a guy who lived in Seattle who
had started to go through the procedure. Was taking hormones and all. But
ran low on funds so worked as a prostitute. He then discovered that there
was such a market for heshes that he had decided (at that point anyway) to
keep on like that. I did not know this guy personally. I just happened to
be in a restaurant with some friends when he came in. He was dressed as a
woman. He did look nice as a woman but he was so tall that he had to duck
to get in the door. As we turned around to look, my one friend whispered,
"Don't look! I'll tell you later."

Turned out that this guy was in one of his college classes and had been
telling everyone all of this stuff. That is how my friend knew of it. But
my friend also thought that this guy had a crush on him and he just wasn't
interested which is why he didn't want to be noticed.