On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:50:04 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>
>> How many people have an active landline phone line anymore? ;-)
>
> Me, and most rural dwellers here. Landline service is available
>everywhere (unlike mobile signals) and never needs recharging.
>
> Janet UK

I knoqw! That's what I loved about my land line. Self powered!! Just
plug a phone in and it worked! No batteries, no A/C (except for
cordless.)

John Kuthe...

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/9/2014 10:37 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> Called about one of those Life Alert gizmos. $41 a month! Told the
>> kids they could scrape me off the floor, I'm not paying.
>
> Check this out:
>
> http://www.logicmark.com/products/guardian-alert/
>
> No service contract or monthly fee. Push the button for two-way
> communication with the 911 operator. A search shows they're available at
> Walmart and I'm sure many other big-box retailers would stock them, or you
> can order online.

I tried to get info on Life Alert online. They make you call a phone number
and there is no one to answer on the weekends. So I left a message and
someone called me back on Mon. I had called for my dad and Mon. was too
late. He had already been in the hospital and then in rehab while my mom
found assisted living.

So when the woman called, me I said I was sorry but we no longer needed the
services. And she said in this very nasty and snarky voice, "Well! Why did
you CALL us then?" Sheesh! What if the person I had called for had died?

On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:15:24 -0500, John Kuthe >
wrote:

>On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:08:12 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:53:43 -0500, John Kuthe >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:39:57 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 6/9/2014 10:37 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>>> Called about one of those Life Alert gizmos. $41 a month! Told the
>>>>> kids they could scrape me off the floor, I'm not paying.
>>>>
>>>>Check this out:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.logicmark.com/products/guardian-alert/
>>>>
>>>>No service contract or monthly fee. Push the button for two-way
>>>>communication with the 911 operator. A search shows they're available
>>>>at Walmart and I'm sure many other big-box retailers would stock them,
>>>>or you can order online.
>>>>
>>>>Jill
>>>
>>>Yep, and:
>>>
>>>"There are no monthly fees associated with the Guardian Alert 911.
>>>Once the unit is plugged into a power outlet and an active landline it
>>>is ready to use. "
>>>
>>>How many people have an active landline phone line anymore? ;-)
>>
>>I do... one land line with six phones connected. The Verizon landline
>>is practically free when bundled with a high speed computer line and
>>an iPhone.
>
>Yeah, when you're already paying Verizon $100+/mo, they will throw you
>a bone.

So, you're saying I should give up my internet connection and my
iPhone... it's already been checked out, no one else costs less

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/10/2014 8:53 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
>
>
>> Yep, and:
>>
>> "There are no monthly fees associated with the Guardian Alert 911.
>> Once the unit is plugged into a power outlet and an active landline it
>> is ready to use. "
>>
>> How many people have an active landline phone line anymore? ;-)
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
>
> Most of the older people I know still do. They are the ones most likely to
> need this.

My mom has a cell but I gave up trying to call it. We had to get her a
different model of cell phone. The one she had was about as dumbed down as
you can get but she got to where not only could she not remember how to use
it, but she couldn't see the buttons. So she now has something akin to a
Jitterbug. Not that brand but same sort of thing. The problem? She is
also going hard of hearing and often can't hear it ring, especially if it is
in her pocket. No sense in leaving a voicemail because she doesn't know how
to retrieve them. And when she goes out, she often forgets to bring the
phone or just opts not to.

I've also been with her when it rings and I will point it out to her. She
just looks at me and says that it can't be her phone (because she can't hear
it). I will then say, "Well... There is a phone ringing and it's not mine,
it's not ___'s and it's not ___'s (whoever else is with us). And she will
reply, "How do you know?" And I will then tell her that it is not our
ringtone. Then by the time she fishes it out of her pocket or purse, the
caller is gone.

The place where she lives now requires everyone to have a landline phone. I
believe they pay for the line but the tenant must use their own phone.
Reason being that they can simply pick up the phone and easily call the
front desk if they need to. And the front desk can easily call them. They
also have a button somewhere in the room that they are supposed to push when
they first get up to prove that they didn't die in their sleep.

I have the phone number to her landline and that's what I call now. If she
is talking on it, I get sent to the front desk. Otherwise if she doesn't
answer, I get a voice mail but she doesn't know how to retrieve those
either. I also have the option of calling the front desk and asking for her
room.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:53:43 -0500, John Kuthe >
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:39:57 -0400, jmcquown >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 6/9/2014 10:37 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>> Called about one of those Life Alert gizmos. $41 a month! Told the
>>>> kids they could scrape me off the floor, I'm not paying.
>>>
>>>Check this out:
>>>
>>>http://www.logicmark.com/products/guardian-alert/
>>>
>>>No service contract or monthly fee. Push the button for two-way
>>>communication with the 911 operator. A search shows they're available
>>>at Walmart and I'm sure many other big-box retailers would stock them,
>>>or you can order online.
>>>
>>>Jill
>>
>>Yep, and:
>>
>>"There are no monthly fees associated with the Guardian Alert 911.
>>Once the unit is plugged into a power outlet and an active landline it
>>is ready to use. "
>>
>>How many people have an active landline phone line anymore? ;-)
>
> I do... one land line with six phones connected. The Verizon landline
> is practically free when bundled with a high speed computer line and
> an iPhone.

I have one too and I don't intend on giving it up. I do not make extended
phone calls on my cell and I hate texting. I mainly use it for emergencies
or in the case of my daughter, to be able to contact her when she is out or
I am away from home. Just a quick text in that case.

My internet is through my phone. And I no longer make lots of long calls
like I used to because most everyone I know is online now. I can use emails
or chat with them online. But my one friend has no computer. She has been
urged strongly to get one from her bank and even her Drs. as that is
seemingly everyone's preferred method of contact these days. Anyway... I
try to call her once a week. Doesn't always work out because she works and
her schedule varies. But when I do get a hold of her, we can easily have a
3 hour phone call. I wouldn't want to use a cell phone for that!

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >,
> says...
>
>> How many people have an active landline phone line anymore? ;-)
>
> Me, and most rural dwellers here. Landline service is available
> everywhere (unlike mobile signals) and never needs recharging.

Cordless phones do need recharging and won't work during a power outage. I
was amazed when we had that big outage in NY that most people did not have a
corded phone at all. We did. At that point in time all but one were
corded. And we had one of those plans where we didn't pay for long
distance. Not in this country anyway... So tons of people were in and out
of our place, using the phone.

Now we are down to just two corded phones. One in my bedroom and one in the
back house. I think we've only ever used the back house one once.

On 6/10/2014 3:48 PM, wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:34:44 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm trying. poured a bowl of cereal this AM but the milk had gone bad.
>>> Made a sandwich for lunch and a couple of hot dogs for dinner.
>>> I will try to do better tomorrow.
>>
>> Sounds more like you need assistance with depression than cooking... I
>> urge you to see your medical professional STAT.
>>
>>> Cancelled DirectTV which we only had for baseball. They told me the
>>> cancellation fee was $250 but if I didn't want to pay it, I could keep
>>> it for 15 months. @ $35 a month, it was cheaper to cancel it.
>>
>> I strongly suggest you keep your TV... it's not just for baseball.
>> Janet, you are definitely depressed, seek professional help. I knew
>> you were suffering from depression when you asked how to cook for one.
>
> You didn't know anything ! What was depressed about the question ?
> Having gone down Janets road, that was a perfectly normal question. I
> think YOU should go and get professional help, you sure sound like you
> need it.
>
+1

Sheldon, the psychiatrist. Sheesh. How does he expect her to feel?
She just buried her husband; her best friend. Granted, I cannot begin
to know what she's feeling but I thought it was a very reasonable question.

It is *not* reasonable to suggest she run to a doctor to [presumeably]
get medication. She was asking for suggestions, that's all.

Jill

On 6/10/2014 3:18 PM, MaryL wrote:
> That looks like it has some good features, but I was trying to go with
> the least cost possible, and it has a monthly fee. I do have a cell
> phone--"plain vanilla" pre-paid which costs less than that one, but it
> is very similar to Track Fone. I seldom use a cell phone--just for
> emergencies or travel--because I still like having a landline handset in
> every room. So, I wear the LogicMark on a lanyard (or in my pocked) in
> case I fall and can't get to a phone. Both my grandmother and my aunt
> had very bad falls a number of years ago, and there is no way they could
> have used a phone to dial even if they could have reached them. So, I
> was interested in something simple where I could just press a button in
> case of a real emergency. The one you listed has that feature, but it
> also has a monthly fee that is higher than what I pay for my cell
> phone. It does look good, though.
>
> MaryL

But Mary... didn't you know Sheldon knows what's best for *everyone*?

Jill

On 6/10/2014 6:12 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 21:37:25 -0500, Janet Wilder >
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I'm trying. poured a bowl of cereal this AM but the milk had gone bad.
>> Made a sandwich for lunch and a couple of hot dogs for dinner.
>
> Normal
>>
>> I will try to do better tomorrow. I spend most of the day on the phone
>> except for too runs to get the death certificates and go to the bank.
>> Then I learned my health benefits terminate at the end of the month, so
>> I had to go get some. Trip to the post office to mail death
>> certificates. I'll get his pension for the rest of my life, but it's
>> going to take them up to 3 months to process it.
>
> They always seem to do that. One of Davids pensions they actually
> (when they settled up) deducted for the balance of the month he died
> that I had the remainder of his full monthly payment. Seemed very
> cheap minded for about ten days.

He died on June 1, so the payment I got 5/31 was for May. When I get
the retro check it will include one day for June.

>> Called about one of those Life Alert gizmos. $41 a month! Told the
>> kids they could scrape me off the floor, I'm not paying.
>
> I agree, that's a bit much. I keep a land line and have one with four
> handsets. That way I keep one in the bathroom which is the room for
> the most and worst accidents. It's at a low level in case I couldn't
> reach it up on the counter.
>>
>> Cancelled DirectTV which we only had for baseball. They told me the
>> cancellation fee was $250 but if I didn't want to pay it, I could keep
>> it for 15 months. @ $35 a month, it was cheaper to cancel it.
>
> I think I would tell them why I was cancelling then suggest maybe
> local media might be interested in their cold hearted treatment of a
> customer - push back.
>>
>> Need to go to Social Security tomorrow and fax some documents to California.
>>
>> Will do the probate later in the week.
>
> It's busy work you need to do to get organised and in a way, keeping
> busy is a good thing. The old advice about not doing anything radical
> for at least a year is good advice. I looked at selling the house but
> was glad I didn't, in the end sold it eight years later. It doesn't
> particularly feel as if your sense of judgement is impaired, but it is
> The pain does go away but memories remain.
>

I already made a file folder. Need more manilla folders. I went to
social security today and they will give me his amount on the day I get
mine. Of course I lose mine, but his was significantly higher.

Heard from the union and I will have dental, optical and hearing aid
benefits for 90 days. I can buy into them via COBRA at about $30 a month
for 3 years. I might do that.

Texas has probate set up so that a lawyer had to do it. Went to my
friend the lawyer and left the will and death certificate with her
paralegal/brother. I'm hoping she can get together with me to fill out
the probate form this week as she goes into a two week trial next week.

I am on the deed and the titles to the cars, so I can probably change
them without probate.

I've done everything I can. Watching the DVR's stuff on TV as they give
me a new one with a Sling on Friday for free. I love Dish.

--
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Way-the-heck-south Texas
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On 6/10/2014 7:39 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/9/2014 10:37 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> Called about one of those Life Alert gizmos. $41 a month! Told the
>> kids they could scrape me off the floor, I'm not paying.
>
> Check this out:
>
> http://www.logicmark.com/products/guardian-alert/
>
> No service contract or monthly fee. Push the button for two-way
> communication with the 911 operator. A search shows they're available
> at Walmart and I'm sure many other big-box retailers would stock them,
> or you can order online.
>
> Jill

That won't work for me as I have Verizon at home and no land line. If
I call 911, I have to tell them where I am and they transfer me.

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On 6/10/2014 10:32 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/10/2014 8:53 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
>
>
>> Yep, and:
>>
>> "There are no monthly fees associated with the Guardian Alert 911.
>> Once the unit is plugged into a power outlet and an active landline it
>> is ready to use. "
>>
>> How many people have an active landline phone line anymore? ;-)
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
>
> Most of the older people I know still do. They are the ones most likely
> to need this.
>

I don't have a land line. I got fed up with the poor service and
finally, after getting my alarm company to give me a cellular device,
cancelled it.

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On 6/10/2014 1:34 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying. poured a bowl of cereal this AM but the milk had gone bad.
>> Made a sandwich for lunch and a couple of hot dogs for dinner.
>> I will try to do better tomorrow.
>
> Sounds more like you need assistance with depression than cooking... I
> urge you to see your medical professional STAT.
>
>> Cancelled DirectTV which we only had for baseball. They told me the
>> cancellation fee was $250 but if I didn't want to pay it, I could keep
>> it for 15 months. @ $35 a month, it was cheaper to cancel it.
>
> I strongly suggest you keep your TV... it's not just for baseball.
> Janet, you are definitely depressed, seek professional help. I knew
> you were suffering from depression when you asked how to cook for one.
>

I have Dish Network in the rest of the house. Direct TV was in one room
solely for DH's wanting to watch the Yankee games. Only Direct TV
offers Major League Baseball Extra Innings. It was only on one TV.

I did remove the sports packages from Dish to save some money.

I do not believe I am depressed enough to need professional help. For
heaven sakes, I just lost my husband very suddenly, traveled to New
Jersey to bury him and then back to Texas in a week. I have sent out
the necessary documents to continue my income and some health benefits,
purchased health benefits to become effective when his end, gone to
social security and taken care of the necessary paper work, etc. and
he's not even gone two weeks. I even contacted someone about saying
Kaddish for him as there is no daily minyan here.

If that's your idea of depression, you need a refresher course in
psychology, Sheldon.

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I had dry cereal with a ripe peach this morning. For lunch I had a
bolillo (Mexican hogie roll) with ham, hard salami, Provelone, lettuce,
tomato and onion, topped with red wine vinegar and olive oil and some
dried Italian seasoning. Toasted the roll and scooped out the insides.
Closest thing I can get to an Italian sub.

For dinner I cut up some mushrooms, red peppers, a bit of jalapeno
pepper, tomatoes and some baby spinach and sauteed it all with a little
cilantro thrown in. Then I added two eggs beaten with cream and a bit
of water and strips of pan toasted corn tortilla. In other words, I made
migas. I served it with a diced avocado drizzled with lime juice and
one extra corn tortilla. I had a half glass of white wine with it.
Didn't finish it all, but at least I know I ate well. I have to learn
how to eyeball diced veggies for one portion.

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On 6/10/2014 6:47 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
(snip)
>
> I am on the deed and the titles to the cars, so I can probably change
> them without probate.
>
> I've done everything I can. Watching the DVR's stuff on TV as they give
> me a new one with a Sling on Friday for free. I love Dish.

DISH is fantastic, and I just love that "Sling" feature! I had to pay
$50 for the "Sling" (worth its price), so it's great you were able to
get yours for free DS/DIL had DirectTV, and it does not compare well
with DISH, IME.

When DH passed, I did not have to do anything with probate. He really
didn't have any property (so to speak), and everything we had (household
stuff, bank accounts, car [he didn't drive], etc.) was "joint" (POD) or
else in my name only.

About three months prior to his accident and subsequent death six days
afterwards, DH had obtained life insurance - a big time 'whew'. That
benefit allowed me to pay all our debts and also the mortgage, with some
funds remaining. If it weren't for that policy, my living arrangements
would have been drastically altered and more. Believe me, I'd much
rather have retained all those debts and mortgage to have DH still
"here" - he was only 52 when he passed :/

Even after all this time, I still have problems cooking 'for one.' I
should be used to that by now since DH tended to cook for himself the
last 15+ years he was alive. When we first got together (24 years ago),
he gained 30-lbs because he liked my cooking So, he lost 40++ lbs
because he started cooking for himself and only sometimes partook in the
meals I made. He always did like the meats I grilled on the charcoal
BBQ outside.

Sky

On 6/10/2014 7:48 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 6/10/2014 7:39 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 6/9/2014 10:37 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> Called about one of those Life Alert gizmos. $41 a month! Told the
>>> kids they could scrape me off the floor, I'm not paying.
>>
>> Check this out:
>>
>> http://www.logicmark.com/products/guardian-alert/
>>
>> No service contract or monthly fee. Push the button for two-way
>> communication with the 911 operator. A search shows they're available
>> at Walmart and I'm sure many other big-box retailers would stock them,
>> or you can order online.
>>
>> Jill
>
> That won't work for me as I have Verizon at home and no land line. If
> I call 911, I have to tell them where I am and they transfer me.
>
Sorry, just a suggestion.

Jill

On 6/10/2014 7:55 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 6/10/2014 1:34 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm trying. poured a bowl of cereal this AM but the milk had gone bad.
>>> Made a sandwich for lunch and a couple of hot dogs for dinner.
>>> I will try to do better tomorrow.
>>
>> Sounds more like you need assistance with depression than cooking... I
>> urge you to see your medical professional STAT.
>>
>>> Cancelled DirectTV which we only had for baseball. They told me the
>>> cancellation fee was $250 but if I didn't want to pay it, I could keep
>>> it for 15 months. @ $35 a month, it was cheaper to cancel it.
>>
>> I strongly suggest you keep your TV... it's not just for baseball.
>> Janet, you are definitely depressed, seek professional help. I knew
>> you were suffering from depression when you asked how to cook for one.
>>
>
> I have Dish Network in the rest of the house. Direct TV was in one room
> solely for DH's wanting to watch the Yankee games. Only Direct TV
> offers Major League Baseball Extra Innings. It was only on one TV.
>
> I did remove the sports packages from Dish to save some money.
>
> I do not believe I am depressed enough to need professional help. For
> heaven sakes, I just lost my husband very suddenly, traveled to New
> Jersey to bury him and then back to Texas in a week. I have sent out
> the necessary documents to continue my income and some health benefits,
> purchased health benefits to become effective when his end, gone to
> social security and taken care of the necessary paper work, etc. and
> he's not even gone two weeks. I even contacted someone about saying
> Kaddish for him as there is no daily minyan here.
>
> If that's your idea of depression, you need a refresher course in
> psychology, Sheldon.
>
Janet, don't pay attention to him. He's the self-appointed know-it-all.

Jill

On 6/10/2014 8:04 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> I had dry cereal with a ripe peach this morning. For lunch I had a
> bolillo (Mexican hogie roll) with ham, hard salami, Provelone, lettuce,
> tomato and onion, topped with red wine vinegar and olive oil and some
> dried Italian seasoning. Toasted the roll and scooped out the insides.
> Closest thing I can get to an Italian sub.
>
> For dinner I cut up some mushrooms, red peppers, a bit of jalapeno
> pepper, tomatoes and some baby spinach and sauteed it all with a little
> cilantro thrown in. Then I added two eggs beaten with cream and a bit
> of water and strips of pan toasted corn tortilla. In other words, I made
> migas. I served it with a diced avocado drizzled with lime juice and
> one extra corn tortilla. I had a half glass of white wine with it.
> Didn't finish it all, but at least I know I ate well. I have to learn
> how to eyeball diced veggies for one portion.
>
Kudos. Hang in there.

Jill

On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 18:50:24 -0500, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

>On 6/10/2014 10:32 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 6/10/2014 8:53 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Yep, and:
>>>
>>> "There are no monthly fees associated with the Guardian Alert 911.
>>> Once the unit is plugged into a power outlet and an active landline it
>>> is ready to use. "
>>>
>>> How many people have an active landline phone line anymore? ;-)
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>
>> Most of the older people I know still do. They are the ones most likely
>> to need this.
>>
>
>I don't have a land line. I got fed up with the poor service and
>finally, after getting my alarm company to give me a cellular device,
>cancelled it.

I had a landline fior over 50 years, and never had any trouble with
the service. Ever. Well, not true, it was out once. ONLE in 50 years.

I call that pretty damned reliable.

John Kuthe...

On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:18:57 -0500, "MaryL"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:03:56 -0500, "MaryL"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"jmcquown" wrote in message ...
>>
>>On 6/9/2014 10:37 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> Called about one of those Life Alert gizmos. $41 a month! Told the
>>> kids they could scrape me off the floor, I'm not paying.
>>
>>Check this out:
>>
>>http://www.logicmark.com/products/guardian-alert/
>>
>>No service contract or monthly fee. Push the button for two-way
>>communication with the 911 operator. A search shows they're available
>>at Walmart and I'm sure many other big-box retailers would stock them,
>>or you can order online.
>>
>>Jill
>>
>>~~~~~~~
>>I have one of these and have been very satisfied. I accidentally activated
>>it once and received immediate response from a 911 operator. It has longer
>>range than most. My house is on 3/4 acre, and I tested it from every area
>>of the house and lawn. It worked perfectly in every case. It does require
>>a landline, but the setup simply means plugging it in.
>>
>>I got mine from amazon.com:
>>http://www.amazon.com/LogicMark-3091...=logicmark+911
>>
>>MaryL
>
>Yeah, but, if all it does is connect you to 911 you can do the same
>with any phone, so it's redundant. For portability simply carry a
>Track Fone.
>This does a lot mo
>http://www.walmart.com/ip/GreatCall-...#ProductDetail
>
>~~~~~~~
>
>That looks like it has some good features, but I was trying to go with the
>least cost possible, and it has a monthly fee. I do have a cell
>phone--"plain vanilla" pre-paid which costs less than that one, but it is
>very similar to Track Fone. I seldom use a cell phone--just for emergencies
>or travel--because I still like having a landline handset in every room.
>So, I wear the LogicMark on a lanyard (or in my pocked) in case I fall and
>can't get to a phone. Both my grandmother and my aunt had very bad falls a
>number of years ago, and there is no way they could have used a phone to
>dial even if they could have reached them. So, I was interested in
>something simple where I could just press a button in case of a real
>emergency. The one you listed has that feature, but it also has a monthly
>fee that is higher than what I pay for my cell phone. It does look good,
>though.
>
>MaryL

It's easy enough to carry your cell phone, my Track Fone is small and
weighs but a couple three ounces. I like that I can use it to make
phone calls in an emergency, the LogicMark only connects to 911, what
do you do if you have car problems on the road, 911 won't help with a
flat tire. With my Track Fone I can always call 911 plus any other
number... I have mine programmed to auto dial two of my nearest
neighbors, my local auto repair shop, two of my doctors, and a couple
of relatives. The LogicMark can only contact 911, and in many
situations you may want your neighbors and not 911. My Track Fone was
very inexpensive and I only pay for minutes, in two years I made one
brief phone call, I still have like 199 minutes, there are no other
fees. Whenever I leave home I carry my Track Fone, even when I'm out
mowing grass. At home I have a land line, with an extention in every
room. A long time ago I began placing a cordless phone on the floor
right by the bathtub whenever I shower, showering is the only time I
can think I may fall and need help. Nothing will help if you fall and
pass out. I think the Track Fone is the best deal out there. I have
this one, does more than I will ever need:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/TracFone-A...gMet hod=p13n
Actually two years ago I paid about half that price. I have no need
for a phone when I'm not home unless it's for an emergency... in all
my years I've never had a need/desire to chat with anyone while
driving, nor any other time when I'm not home.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/10/2014 8:53 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
>
>
>> Yep, and:
>>
>> "There are no monthly fees associated with the Guardian Alert 911.
>> Once the unit is plugged into a power outlet and an active landline it
>> is ready to use. "
>>
>> How many people have an active landline phone line anymore? ;-)
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
>
> Most of the older people I know still do. They are the ones most likely to
> need this.

I do, and I always will have one. I dislike cell phones for conversation.

Cheri

"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:18:57 -0500, "MaryL"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:03:56 -0500, "MaryL"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"jmcquown" wrote in message ...
>>
>>On 6/9/2014 10:37 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> Called about one of those Life Alert gizmos. $41 a month! Told the
>>> kids they could scrape me off the floor, I'm not paying.
>>
>>Check this out:
>>
>>http://www.logicmark.com/products/guardian-alert/
>>
>>No service contract or monthly fee. Push the button for two-way
>>communication with the 911 operator. A search shows they're available
>>at Walmart and I'm sure many other big-box retailers would stock them,
>>or you can order online.
>>
>>Jill
>>
>>~~~~~~~
>>I have one of these and have been very satisfied. I accidentally
>>activated
>>it once and received immediate response from a 911 operator. It has
>>longer
>>range than most. My house is on 3/4 acre, and I tested it from every area
>>of the house and lawn. It worked perfectly in every case. It does
>>require
>>a landline, but the setup simply means plugging it in.
>>
>>I got mine from amazon.com:
>>http://www.amazon.com/LogicMark-3091...=logicmark+911
>>
>>MaryL
>
>Yeah, but, if all it does is connect you to 911 you can do the same
>with any phone, so it's redundant. For portability simply carry a
>Track Fone.
>This does a lot mo
>http://www.walmart.com/ip/GreatCall-...#ProductDetail
>
>~~~~~~~
>
>That looks like it has some good features, but I was trying to go with the
>least cost possible, and it has a monthly fee. I do have a cell
>phone--"plain vanilla" pre-paid which costs less than that one, but it is
>very similar to Track Fone. I seldom use a cell phone--just for
>emergencies
>or travel--because I still like having a landline handset in every room.
>So, I wear the LogicMark on a lanyard (or in my pocked) in case I fall and
>can't get to a phone. Both my grandmother and my aunt had very bad falls a
>number of years ago, and there is no way they could have used a phone to
>dial even if they could have reached them. So, I was interested in
>something simple where I could just press a button in case of a real
>emergency. The one you listed has that feature, but it also has a monthly
>fee that is higher than what I pay for my cell phone. It does look good,
>though.
>
>MaryL

It's easy enough to carry your cell phone, my Track Fone is small and
weighs but a couple three ounces. I like that I can use it to make
phone calls in an emergency, the LogicMark only connects to 911, what
do you do if you have car problems on the road, 911 won't help with a
flat tire. With my Track Fone I can always call 911 plus any other
number... I have mine programmed to auto dial two of my nearest
neighbors, my local auto repair shop, two of my doctors, and a couple
of relatives. The LogicMark can only contact 911, and in many
situations you may want your neighbors and not 911. My Track Fone was
very inexpensive and I only pay for minutes, in two years I made one
brief phone call, I still have like 199 minutes, there are no other
fees. Whenever I leave home I carry my Track Fone, even when I'm out
mowing grass. At home I have a land line, with an extention in every
room. A long time ago I began placing a cordless phone on the floor
right by the bathtub whenever I shower, showering is the only time I
can think I may fall and need help. Nothing will help if you fall and
pass out. I think the Track Fone is the best deal out there. I have
this one, does more than I will ever need:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/TracFone-A...gMet hod=p13n
Actually two years ago I paid about half that price. I have no need
for a phone when I'm not home unless it's for an emergency... in all
my years I've never had a need/desire to chat with anyone while
driving, nor any other time when I'm not home.

~~~~~~~~
My cell phone is almost identical to Track Fone, and I carry it with me at
all times when I am away from home. I keep it in my purse, so it is the
last thing I pick up as I leave the house. It is a prepaid phone, and I pay
for a year in advance. I always have leftover minutes at the end of the
year, and they rollover to the next year. However, I do not want to use the
cell phone at home. I prefer a landline for that, and I keep a handset in
several different rooms so they are always available. All I want the
LogicMark for is to push a button to call 911 in the even of a real
emergency, such as a fall when I might not be able to get up. I fell
headfirst off a step ladder a couple of years ago and could not get up for a
few minutes. My dear little cat, Holly, came running and gently licked me
on the cheek while I was lying on the floor; but that would not really count
as "emergency medical care." Yes, I could keep my cell phone with me at all
times, and I did that for awhile; but I really prefer to keep it in my purse
so I will never forget to take it with me when I leave the house. The
LogicMark is inexpensive, has no monthly fees, and instantly connects to
911. I prefer that while I am at home. It has enough range so that it
works from any part of my house or yard. For that matter, it will even work
if I am at the neighbor's house--but not farther away, unlike a cell phone.

MaryL

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 18:50:24 -0500, Janet Wilder >
> wrote:
>
>>On 6/10/2014 10:32 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 6/10/2014 8:53 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yep, and:
>>>>
>>>> "There are no monthly fees associated with the Guardian Alert 911.
>>>> Once the unit is plugged into a power outlet and an active landline it
>>>> is ready to use. "
>>>>
>>>> How many people have an active landline phone line anymore? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Most of the older people I know still do. They are the ones most likely
>>> to need this.
>>>
>>
>>I don't have a land line. I got fed up with the poor service and
>>finally, after getting my alarm company to give me a cellular device,
>>cancelled it.
>
> I had a landline fior over 50 years, and never had any trouble with
> the service. Ever. Well, not true, it was out once. ONLE in 50 years.
>
> I call that pretty damned reliable.
>
> John Kuthe...

Same here, with 3 separate phone lines coming to the box on the house and 3
different numbers at one time. Now, we just have the one landline, but never
any problems.

Cheri

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

On 6/10/2014 3:18 PM, MaryL wrote:
> That looks like it has some good features, but I was trying to go with
> the least cost possible, and it has a monthly fee. I do have a cell
> phone--"plain vanilla" pre-paid which costs less than that one, but it
> is very similar to Track Fone. I seldom use a cell phone--just for
> emergencies or travel--because I still like having a landline handset in
> every room. So, I wear the LogicMark on a lanyard (or in my pocked) in
> case I fall and can't get to a phone. Both my grandmother and my aunt
> had very bad falls a number of years ago, and there is no way they could
> have used a phone to dial even if they could have reached them. So, I
> was interested in something simple where I could just press a button in
> case of a real emergency. The one you listed has that feature, but it
> also has a monthly fee that is higher than what I pay for my cell
> phone. It does look good, though.
>
> MaryL

But Mary... didn't you know Sheldon knows what's best for *everyone*?

Jill

~~~~
LOL!

MaryL

On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:50:17 -0500, "MaryL"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Brooklyn1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:18:57 -0500, "MaryL"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
> .. .
> >
> >On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:03:56 -0500, "MaryL"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>"jmcquown" wrote in message ...
> >>
> >>On 6/9/2014 10:37 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> >>> Called about one of those Life Alert gizmos. $41 a month! Told the
> >>> kids they could scrape me off the floor, I'm not paying.
> >>
> >>Check this out:
> >>
> >>http://www.logicmark.com/products/guardian-alert/
> >>
> >>No service contract or monthly fee. Push the button for two-way
> >>communication with the 911 operator. A search shows they're available
> >>at Walmart and I'm sure many other big-box retailers would stock them,
> >>or you can order online.
> >>
> >>Jill
> >>
> >>~~~~~~~
> >>I have one of these and have been very satisfied. I accidentally
> >>activated
> >>it once and received immediate response from a 911 operator. It has
> >>longer
> >>range than most. My house is on 3/4 acre, and I tested it from every area
> >>of the house and lawn. It worked perfectly in every case. It does
> >>require
> >>a landline, but the setup simply means plugging it in.
> >>
> >>I got mine from amazon.com:
> >>http://www.amazon.com/LogicMark-3091...=logicmark+911
> >>
> >>MaryL
> >
> >Yeah, but, if all it does is connect you to 911 you can do the same
> >with any phone, so it's redundant. For portability simply carry a
> >Track Fone.
> >This does a lot mo
> >http://www.walmart.com/ip/GreatCall-...#ProductDetail
> >
> >~~~~~~~
> >
> >That looks like it has some good features, but I was trying to go with the
> >least cost possible, and it has a monthly fee. I do have a cell
> >phone--"plain vanilla" pre-paid which costs less than that one, but it is
> >very similar to Track Fone. I seldom use a cell phone--just for
> >emergencies
> >or travel--because I still like having a landline handset in every room.
> >So, I wear the LogicMark on a lanyard (or in my pocked) in case I fall and
> >can't get to a phone. Both my grandmother and my aunt had very bad falls a
> >number of years ago, and there is no way they could have used a phone to
> >dial even if they could have reached them. So, I was interested in
> >something simple where I could just press a button in case of a real
> >emergency. The one you listed has that feature, but it also has a monthly
> >fee that is higher than what I pay for my cell phone. It does look good,
> >though.
> >
> >MaryL
>
> It's easy enough to carry your cell phone, my Track Fone is small and
> weighs but a couple three ounces. I like that I can use it to make
> phone calls in an emergency, the LogicMark only connects to 911, what
> do you do if you have car problems on the road, 911 won't help with a
> flat tire. With my Track Fone I can always call 911 plus any other
> number... I have mine programmed to auto dial two of my nearest
> neighbors, my local auto repair shop, two of my doctors, and a couple
> of relatives. The LogicMark can only contact 911, and in many
> situations you may want your neighbors and not 911. My Track Fone was
> very inexpensive and I only pay for minutes, in two years I made one
> brief phone call, I still have like 199 minutes, there are no other
> fees. Whenever I leave home I carry my Track Fone, even when I'm out
> mowing grass. At home I have a land line, with an extention in every
> room. A long time ago I began placing a cordless phone on the floor
> right by the bathtub whenever I shower, showering is the only time I
> can think I may fall and need help. Nothing will help if you fall and
> pass out. I think the Track Fone is the best deal out there. I have
> this one, does more than I will ever need:
> http://www.walmart.com/ip/TracFone-A...gMet hod=p13n
> Actually two years ago I paid about half that price. I have no need
> for a phone when I'm not home unless it's for an emergency... in all
> my years I've never had a need/desire to chat with anyone while
> driving, nor any other time when I'm not home.
>
> ~~~~~~~~
> My cell phone is almost identical to Track Fone, and I carry it with me at
> all times when I am away from home. I keep it in my purse, so it is the
> last thing I pick up as I leave the house. It is a prepaid phone, and I pay
> for a year in advance. I always have leftover minutes at the end of the
> year, and they rollover to the next year. However, I do not want to use the
> cell phone at home. I prefer a landline for that, and I keep a handset in
> several different rooms so they are always available. All I want the
> LogicMark for is to push a button to call 911 in the even of a real
> emergency, such as a fall when I might not be able to get up. I fell
> headfirst off a step ladder a couple of years ago and could not get up for a
> few minutes. My dear little cat, Holly, came running and gently licked me
> on the cheek while I was lying on the floor; but that would not really count
> as "emergency medical care." Yes, I could keep my cell phone with me at all
> times, and I did that for awhile; but I really prefer to keep it in my purse
> so I will never forget to take it with me when I leave the house. The
> LogicMark is inexpensive, has no monthly fees, and instantly connects to
> 911. I prefer that while I am at home. It has enough range so that it
> works from any part of my house or yard. For that matter, it will even work
> if I am at the neighbor's house--but not farther away, unlike a cell phone.
>

My neighbor fell twice, breaking her hip both times. I don't remember
the circumstances around the first time, however the second time she
fell - she was lying next to the table her cell phone was on, but she
couldn't reach it. So near and yet so far.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> I had dry cereal with a ripe peach this morning. For lunch I had a
> bolillo (Mexican hogie roll) with ham, hard salami, Provelone, lettuce,
> tomato and onion, topped with red wine vinegar and olive oil and some
> dried Italian seasoning. Toasted the roll and scooped out the insides.
> Closest thing I can get to an Italian sub.
>
> For dinner I cut up some mushrooms, red peppers, a bit of jalapeno pepper,
> tomatoes and some baby spinach and sauteed it all with a little cilantro
> thrown in. Then I added two eggs beaten with cream and a bit of water and
> strips of pan toasted corn tortilla. In other words, I made migas. I
> served it with a diced avocado drizzled with lime juice and one extra corn
> tortilla. I had a half glass of white wine with it. Didn't finish it all,
> but at least I know I ate well. I have to learn how to eyeball diced
> veggies for one portion.

Ace! Well done

--
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On 6/11/2014 7:13 AM, sf wrote:
>
> My neighbor fell twice, breaking her hip both times. I don't remember
> the circumstances around the first time, however the second time she
> fell - she was lying next to the table her cell phone was on, but she
> couldn't reach it. So near and yet so far.
>
That's exactly why people have these emergency alert
pendants/wristbands. Just because you have a cell phone (or Sheldon's
much touted TracFone) doesn't mean you can always get to it.

Jill

On 2014-06-11, jmcquown > wrote:

> That's exactly why people have these emergency alert
> pendants/wristbands.

Some of those companies are jes weird. My mom had an emergency alert
device which she never used and pretty much forgot to pay for. By
time I got here, some guy at the company was calling constantly and
demanding return of the device. Seems he didn't care about the
outstanding bill, but he was fanatical over the device. What, they
only had a couple? Very strange.

nb

On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 09:44:16 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 6/11/2014 7:13 AM, sf wrote:
> >
> > My neighbor fell twice, breaking her hip both times. I don't remember
> > the circumstances around the first time, however the second time she
> > fell - she was lying next to the table her cell phone was on, but she
> > couldn't reach it. So near and yet so far.
> >
> That's exactly why people have these emergency alert
> pendants/wristbands. Just because you have a cell phone (or Sheldon's
> much touted TracFone) doesn't mean you can always get to it.
>
I wish she had one at the time. She's in independent living now and
loves it there. It's a great situation for her because she's another
one who never liked to cook, but she's very outgoing and social so the
dining room situation is perfect for her. I didn't think she'd ever
be happy after her husband died, but she even has a boy friend.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:37:15 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
m...
>> On 6/10/2014 8:53 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Yep, and:
>>>
>>> "There are no monthly fees associated with the Guardian Alert 911.
>>> Once the unit is plugged into a power outlet and an active landline it
>>> is ready to use. "
>>>
>>> How many people have an active landline phone line anymore? ;-)
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>
>> Most of the older people I know still do. They are the ones most likely to
>> need this.
>
>I do, and I always will have one. I dislike cell phones for conversation.
>
>Cheri

Cell phone technology is still in caveman mode, 90% of the time when
someone calls me with their cell phone they lose the signal so I hear
less than half they are saying... as I said several times already,
when people call me on number I recognize as a cell phone I don't pick
up. When someone calls m e with a cell phone as soon as they start
losing their signal I hang up, when they call back I don't pick up.
Cell phones are crap for regular conversation, even their sound is
awful.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
news
> Cell phone technology is still in caveman mode, 90% of the time when
> someone calls me with their cell phone they lose the signal so I hear
> less than half they are saying... as I said several times already,
> when people call me on number I recognize as a cell phone I don't pick
> up. When someone calls m e with a cell phone as soon as they start
> losing their signal I hang up, when they call back I don't pick up.
> Cell phones are crap for regular conversation, even their sound is
> awful.

All true IME.

Cheri

"notbob" wrote in message ...

On 2014-06-11, jmcquown > wrote:

> That's exactly why people have these emergency alert
> pendants/wristbands.

Some of those companies are jes weird. My mom had an emergency alert
device which she never used and pretty much forgot to pay for. By
time I got here, some guy at the company was calling constantly and
demanding return of the device. Seems he didn't care about the
outstanding bill, but he was fanatical over the device. What, they
only had a couple? Very strange.

nb

~~~~~~~
That is strange, but you're lucky that's all they wanted. Some of those
companies that have contracts have such specific clauses that they even
require payment if the "owner" dies or enters a nursing home.

MaryL

On 6/11/2014 12:29 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> news >
>> Cell phone technology is still in caveman mode, 90% of the time when
>> someone calls me with their cell phone they lose the signal so I hear
>> less than half they are saying... as I said several times already,
>> when people call me on number I recognize as a cell phone I don't pick
>> up. When someone calls m e with a cell phone as soon as they start
>> losing their signal I hang up, when they call back I don't pick up.
>> Cell phones are crap for regular conversation, even their sound is
>> awful.
>
> All true IME.
>

I think you are very pessimistic; cell to cell and cell to fiber optic
line works very well for me. I use T-mobile and Verizon. My son only
uses a cell phone and I have had many conversations of half an hour or
so with him.

Of course, I don't walk around with a cell phone tucked against my ear
and I tend to ignore callers who don't show their ID. I am ignoring an
"UNKNOWN NAME" just now. This caller did not leave a message but
unknowns tend to leave something like "Duh".

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:17:18 PM UTC-7, Yellow wrote:
> In article >, says...
>
> >
>
> > Ophelia wrote:
>
> > > I am saving all these. I am terrified of it happening to me.
>
> > It's definitely going to happen to you or your husband eventually.
> > Just enjoy every day with him while it lasts. Miserable times once
> > someone dies but when it happens, do know that eventually time will
> > heal.
>
>
>
> I believe the "time will heal" thing to be just something someone says
> (not have a go at you or anyone else in any shape or form, just a
> general observation based on my own personal experience) when they do
> not know what else to say and think that by saying it they are somehow
> making you feel better.
>
> Time does not heal, you just learn how to cope - not the same thing -
> and that takes a lot of inter-strength and effort. It does not occur
> through the simple passage of time.
>

Grieving lasts for years, in my experience, and can be summoned back to
life at any time. But after a while other things can occupy your mind.

> A week after losing my husband I had one person tell me they understood
> as they had just lost their cat (yes, that really did happen) and
> another who knew how I felt because they'd had a miscarriage a few
> months previously.
>
> The miscarriage story is further interesting as that was said through
> a usenet group containing people I knew personally and I was so
> horrified at the time, bearing in mind my most beloved husband had
> suddenly died a week previously, leaving me and my two step-children and
> friends and family and work and a full and complex life, and I felt
> there was no comparison whatsoever (your mileage may vary) so I did not
> reply to the message as I was completely at a loss at what to say. I
> stopped posting and quietly abandoned the group for a time-out. A fellow
> member of the group emailed me personally about a week later and told me
> off for being so very rude in not thanking that person for their kind
> thoughts.
>
> Now I laugh and understand as, as I said, people just do not know what
> to say and are just trying to be kind but often simply have no idea how
> to be so they reel out the same platitudes they have heard other people
> use.
>
> Yes, I really am quite opinionated on this one. :-o

They were trying to convey that they had experienced a loss, and thus knew
what a loss feels like, even if it couldn't possibly compare to the loss
you had suffered. But expecting you to respond approvingly to them is
outrageous.

On 6/10/2014 7:26 PM, Sky wrote:
> On 6/10/2014 6:47 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:

> DISH is fantastic, and I just love that "Sling" feature! I had to pay
> $50 for the "Sling" (worth its price), so it's great you were able to
> get yours for free DS/DIL had DirectTV, and it does not compare well
> with DISH, IME.

Having had both Dish and Direct simultaneously, I can truly say that the
Dish equipment and customer service is highly superior to Direct.

> When DH passed, I did not have to do anything with probate. He really
> didn't have any property (so to speak), and everything we had (household
> stuff, bank accounts, car [he didn't drive], etc.) was "joint" (POD) or
> else in my name only.

Everything is joint, but there is a duty to probate a will if there is
one. It's the law.

>
> About three months prior to his accident and subsequent death six days
> afterwards, DH had obtained life insurance - a big time 'whew'. That
> benefit allowed me to pay all our debts and also the mortgage, with some
> funds remaining. If it weren't for that policy, my living arrangements
> would have been drastically altered and more. Believe me, I'd much
> rather have retained all those debts and mortgage to have DH still
> "here" - he was only 52 when he passed :/

Unfortunately, my DH was uninsurable as he had diabetes and heart
problems beginning at age 40. I could have insured him with 'Alex
Trebeck" insurance and would have if I knew he was going to die so soon,
but the cost of that policy was just not worth the coverage. We had
savings put aside to cover the funeral and, thankfully, I can.

The weird thing is that he did not die of either of those conditions.
He aspirated food and choked.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

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On 6/10/2014 7:33 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/10/2014 7:55 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> On 6/10/2014 1:34 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying. poured a bowl of cereal this AM but the milk had gone bad.
>>>> Made a sandwich for lunch and a couple of hot dogs for dinner.
>>>> I will try to do better tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Sounds more like you need assistance with depression than cooking... I
>>> urge you to see your medical professional STAT.
>>>
>>>> Cancelled DirectTV which we only had for baseball. They told me the
>>>> cancellation fee was $250 but if I didn't want to pay it, I could keep
>>>> it for 15 months. @ $35 a month, it was cheaper to cancel it.
>>>
>>> I strongly suggest you keep your TV... it's not just for baseball.
>>> Janet, you are definitely depressed, seek professional help. I knew
>>> you were suffering from depression when you asked how to cook for one.
>>>
>>
>> I have Dish Network in the rest of the house. Direct TV was in one room
>> solely for DH's wanting to watch the Yankee games. Only Direct TV
>> offers Major League Baseball Extra Innings. It was only on one TV.
>>
>> I did remove the sports packages from Dish to save some money.
>>
>> I do not believe I am depressed enough to need professional help. For
>> heaven sakes, I just lost my husband very suddenly, traveled to New
>> Jersey to bury him and then back to Texas in a week. I have sent out
>> the necessary documents to continue my income and some health benefits,
>> purchased health benefits to become effective when his end, gone to
>> social security and taken care of the necessary paper work, etc. and
>> he's not even gone two weeks. I even contacted someone about saying
>> Kaddish for him as there is no daily minyan here.
>>
>> If that's your idea of depression, you need a refresher course in
>> psychology, Sheldon.
>>
> Janet, don't pay attention to him. He's the self-appointed know-it-all.
>
> Jill

He meant well.

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On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 10:32:57 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:17:18 PM UTC-7, Yellow wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > > > I am saving all these. I am terrified of it happening to me.
> >
> > > It's definitely going to happen to you or your husband eventually.
> > > Just enjoy every day with him while it lasts. Miserable times once
> > > someone dies but when it happens, do know that eventually time will
> > > heal.
> >
> >
> >
> > I believe the "time will heal" thing to be just something someone says
> > (not have a go at you or anyone else in any shape or form, just a
> > general observation based on my own personal experience) when they do
> > not know what else to say and think that by saying it they are somehow
> > making you feel better.
> >
> > Time does not heal, you just learn how to cope - not the same thing -
> > and that takes a lot of inter-strength and effort. It does not occur
> > through the simple passage of time.
> >
>
> Grieving lasts for years, in my experience, and can be summoned back to
> life at any time. But after a while other things can occupy your mind.
>
> > A week after losing my husband I had one person tell me they understood
> > as they had just lost their cat (yes, that really did happen) and
> > another who knew how I felt because they'd had a miscarriage a few
> > months previously.
> >
> > The miscarriage story is further interesting as that was said through
> > a usenet group containing people I knew personally and I was so
> > horrified at the time, bearing in mind my most beloved husband had
> > suddenly died a week previously, leaving me and my two step-children and
> > friends and family and work and a full and complex life, and I felt
> > there was no comparison whatsoever (your mileage may vary) so I did not
> > reply to the message as I was completely at a loss at what to say. I
> > stopped posting and quietly abandoned the group for a time-out. A fellow
> > member of the group emailed me personally about a week later and told me
> > off for being so very rude in not thanking that person for their kind
> > thoughts.
> >
> > Now I laugh and understand as, as I said, people just do not know what
> > to say and are just trying to be kind but often simply have no idea how
> > to be so they reel out the same platitudes they have heard other people
> > use.
> >
> > Yes, I really am quite opinionated on this one. :-o
>
> They were trying to convey that they had experienced a loss, and thus knew
> what a loss feels like, even if it couldn't possibly compare to the loss
> you had suffered. But expecting you to respond approvingly to them is
> outrageous.

Didn't she lose her husband when he was in his 40's? At that age,
most people probably didn't know what it was like to lose a spouse;
but unless they'd been particularly isolated, I'm sure they've lost a
loved one at some point. In a way, time heals. It puts more space
between your thoughts about the one who died and allows you to get
some relief from the pain of loss.

There are those who just can't seem to "get over it" and those people
need professional help. I know a couple who lost their son to gun
violence. Both grieved immensely, but eventually the time comes when
you say it's time to get on with life. She got mental health therapy
and medication, he didn't. Although she will never get over the pain
of losing a child, she was able to be happier - but he was always sad
and morose (you could visualize a black gloom of cloud over his head).
They eventually divorced and (like Alexander and the Terrible,
Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day wanted to do), she moved to Australia.

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On 6/11/2014 12:32 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:17:18 PM UTC-7, Yellow wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>>> I am saving all these. I am terrified of it happening to me.
>>
>>> It's definitely going to happen to you or your husband eventually.
>>> Just enjoy every day with him while it lasts. Miserable times once
>>> someone dies but when it happens, do know that eventually time will
>>> heal.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe the "time will heal" thing to be just something someone says
>> (not have a go at you or anyone else in any shape or form, just a
>> general observation based on my own personal experience) when they do
>> not know what else to say and think that by saying it they are somehow
>> making you feel better.
>>
>> Time does not heal, you just learn how to cope - not the same thing -
>> and that takes a lot of inter-strength and effort. It does not occur
>> through the simple passage of time.
>>
>
> Grieving lasts for years, in my experience, and can be summoned back to
> life at any time. But after a while other things can occupy your mind.
>
>> A week after losing my husband I had one person tell me they understood
>> as they had just lost their cat (yes, that really did happen) and
>> another who knew how I felt because they'd had a miscarriage a few
>> months previously.
>>
>> The miscarriage story is further interesting as that was said through
>> a usenet group containing people I knew personally and I was so
>> horrified at the time, bearing in mind my most beloved husband had
>> suddenly died a week previously, leaving me and my two step-children and
>> friends and family and work and a full and complex life, and I felt
>> there was no comparison whatsoever (your mileage may vary) so I did not
>> reply to the message as I was completely at a loss at what to say. I
>> stopped posting and quietly abandoned the group for a time-out. A fellow
>> member of the group emailed me personally about a week later and told me
>> off for being so very rude in not thanking that person for their kind
>> thoughts.
>>
>> Now I laugh and understand as, as I said, people just do not know what
>> to say and are just trying to be kind but often simply have no idea how
>> to be so they reel out the same platitudes they have heard other people
>> use.
>>
>> Yes, I really am quite opinionated on this one. :-o
>
> They were trying to convey that they had experienced a loss, and thus knew
> what a loss feels like, even if it couldn't possibly compare to the loss
> you had suffered. But expecting you to respond approvingly to them is
> outrageous.
>
I had the same thing when my daughter died. I had lost a 21 year old
child and I was supposed to feel sorry for someone who had a miscarriage
after 2 or 3 months? I, myself, had two miscarriages and never thought
I needed a support group.

The best thing the support group gave me was seeing how some people made
a career of their grief. They alienated their loved ones and lived for
their dead. I knew right then and there, I was not going to be like
them. I pulled myself together and went on with life, sad and grieving,
but alive.

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"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/11/2014 12:29 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> news >>
>>> Cell phone technology is still in caveman mode, 90% of the time when
>>> someone calls me with their cell phone they lose the signal so I hear
>>> less than half they are saying... as I said several times already,
>>> when people call me on number I recognize as a cell phone I don't pick
>>> up. When someone calls m e with a cell phone as soon as they start
>>> losing their signal I hang up, when they call back I don't pick up.
>>> Cell phones are crap for regular conversation, even their sound is
>>> awful.
>>
>> All true IME.
>>
>
> I think you are very pessimistic; cell to cell and cell to fiber optic
> line works very well for me. I use T-mobile and Verizon. My son only uses
> a cell phone and I have had many conversations of half an hour or so with
> him.
>
> Of course, I don't walk around with a cell phone tucked against my ear and
> I tend to ignore callers who don't show their ID. I am ignoring an
> "UNKNOWN NAME" just now. This caller did not leave a message but unknowns
> tend to leave something like "Duh".

Nothing pessimistic about my experiences with cell conversations, just
truthful comments. They're always cutting out or the sound quality is bad.
You might have a different experience.

Cheri

On 2014-06-11 9:44 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>> My neighbor fell twice, breaking her hip both times. I don't remember
>> the circumstances around the first time, however the second time she
>> fell - she was lying next to the table her cell phone was on, but she
>> couldn't reach it. So near and yet so far.
>>
> That's exactly why people have these emergency alert
> pendants/wristbands. Just because you have a cell phone (or Sheldon's
> much touted TracFone) doesn't mean you can always get to it.
>

That's the way I figure it. Sounds good in theory but when and oldster
falls there is a good chance they are going to be in pain and/ore
disoriented. They might not be able to use the phone. I can't forget
how I felt after heart surgery. I was heavily medicated and bored to
tears. I had a book to read but I would have had to reach for the book
and for my glasses, and I would have had to hold the book up. That was
too much effort, so I sat there and stared at nothing for three days.

On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 11:35:03 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> My daughter was giving me hell this morning saying..."Why don't you text,
> you know I hate to send email" LOL

I like texting a lot more than I thought I would. You don't feel like
you might be interrupting them or carry on a long winded conversation.
Just say your piece/ask your question and let them reply when they're
able to get to it.

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