AS A RULE, do you find that prepackaged sliced cheese is cheaper or costlier than at the deli counter? I compared some provolone and the deli was MORE. Of course, it was Boar's Head at the deli...... so maybe el brando is the deciding factor? But, as a RULE, what have you found?

Also: I discovered another steaming method. My one handled strainer fits perfectly over my 3 qt. saucepan, so no need to haul out the giant steaming 'kit' to do a bit of veggies. I HATE washing that big clunker....

On 2014-06-06 20:58, Kalmia wrote:
> AS A RULE, do you find that prepackaged sliced cheese is cheaper or
> costlier than at the deli counter? I compared some provolone and the
> deli was MORE. Of course, it was Boar's Head at the deli...... so
> maybe el brando is the deciding factor? But, as a RULE, what have
> you found?
As a rule.... I find cold the prepackaged stuff pricier, though I was
recently surprised at the cost of two slices of cheese at the deli counter.

I have been buying my cold cuts and cheese at a deli because I realized
their cold cut prices are half what they are charging at the grocery
stores.


> Also: I discovered another steaming method. My one handled strainer
> fits perfectly over my 3 qt. saucepan, so no need to haul out the
> giant steaming 'kit' to do a bit of veggies. I HATE washing that big
> clunker....


Sounds like a good idea

Kalmia wrote:
>
>AS A RULE, do you find that prepackaged sliced cheese is
>cheaper or costlier than at the deli counter?

Cheese and cold cuts at the Super Walmart deli here is the best deal,
biggest selection, lowest prices, and the cleanest.

>Also: I discovered another steaming method.

Microwaving veggies works best for me.
Nuked broccoli tonight, with roast pork loin and baked spuds.

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 17:58:41 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia wrote:
>
>> AS A RULE, do you find that prepackaged sliced cheese is cheaper or
>> costlier than at the deli counter? I compared some provolone and
>> the deli was MORE. Of course, it was Boar's Head at the deli......
>> so maybe el brando is the deciding factor? But, as a RULE, what
>> have you found?
>
> Here the deli costs more by about 25-30% for the same pre-sliced
> brands on the shelves. It's the price customers are willing to pay to
> have something cut to order at a custom thickness, the perceived
> freshness, and the personal service. It costs the grocer more to staff
> the deli counter than to stock the shelves.
>
> -sw

At my local Whole Foods, the prepackaged stuff is way more expensive,
but I think that's the exception and not the rule. In that case, I
guess people don't want to wait at the deli counter. Same brand, but
price per pound is often double or triple - really.

-S-

On 6/6/2014 8:58 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> AS A RULE, do you find that prepackaged sliced cheese is cheaper or costlier than at the deli counter?

Are you talking about American processed cheese? That stuff is not
pre-sliced, but it is extruded, cut, and stacked.

The only deli sliced cheese I buy is Hoffman"s Super Sharp. The
packaged stuff is nasty.

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
AS A RULE, do you find that prepackaged sliced cheese is cheaper or costlier
than at the deli counter? I compared some provolone and the deli was MORE.
Of course, it was Boar's Head at the deli...... so maybe el brando is the
deciding factor? But, as a RULE, what have you found?

Also: I discovered another steaming method. My one handled strainer fits
perfectly over my 3 qt. saucepan, so no need to haul out the giant steaming
'kit' to do a bit of veggies. I HATE washing that big clunker....

---

Depends on the store. Winco sells some presliced from their Deli counter
and it is much less expensive. But it can be in pretty big packages and the
few times that I bought it, we couldn't use it up before it went moldy.
What you get at the deli counter is almost always a better quality though.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 21:44:28 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Cheese and cold cuts at the Super Walmart deli here is the best deal,
>> biggest selection, lowest prices, and the cleanest.
>
> Again, you must have really shitty grocers if your Walmart is the best
> you have. Frankly, I don't believe any of your gushing over Walmart.
> Take some pictures next time and prove me wrong, eh?
>
> The pre-sliced and pre-shredded cheese displays at Walmart is about
> 95% of the cheese selections. They must have close to 300 items in
> that section. And maybe 10-15 unsliced/unshredded blocks of cheese.
> Walmart is for lazy morons.

Our Walmart doesn't have a full grocery but it does have, IMO an odd
assortment of things. If I was forced to buy things from there to make a
dinner, it would likely be pasta and sauce with no meat in it. I won't buy
their meat. Or perhaps sandwiches that I made. They also don't have a lot
of produce. Mainly stuff like bananas, bagged apples, bagged potatoes.

I have been to one with a full grocery several times. Although I did like
their prices, I just didn't care for the quality of the produce and meat. I
did buy produce there once. I was selective. We were on a cross country
move. I was desperate for fresh produce. I didn't look at the cheese since
we'd just come from Wisconsin and I had some on ice.

"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 17:58:41 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia wrote:
>>
>>> AS A RULE, do you find that prepackaged sliced cheese is cheaper or
>>> costlier than at the deli counter? I compared some provolone and
>>> the deli was MORE. Of course, it was Boar's Head at the deli......
>>> so maybe el brando is the deciding factor? But, as a RULE, what
>>> have you found?
>>
>> Here the deli costs more by about 25-30% for the same pre-sliced
>> brands on the shelves. It's the price customers are willing to pay to
>> have something cut to order at a custom thickness, the perceived
>> freshness, and the personal service. It costs the grocer more to staff
>> the deli counter than to stock the shelves.
>>
>> -sw
>
> At my local Whole Foods, the prepackaged stuff is way more expensive, but
> I think that's the exception and not the rule. In that case, I guess
> people don't want to wait at the deli counter. Same brand, but price per
> pound is often double or triple - really.

One issue that I have with the deli counter stuff is that it goes moldy
quickly. Sure once you open a package, that will happen too. So if I do
buy from the deli counter, it's either for a party or I buy a small amount
for consumption that day or the next.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 21:47:53 -0400, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> At my local Whole Foods, the prepackaged stuff is way more expensive,
>> but I think that's the exception and not the rule. In that case, I
>> guess people don't want to wait at the deli counter. Same brand, but
>> price per pound is often double or triple - really.
>
> That *is* really out of whack. But Hole Foods is not a normal store.
> Have have never bought deli meat or cheese at WF because I looked at
> the prices once and told myself to ignore these items from now on. I
> didn't even know they had pre-sliced cheese. Come to think of it, yes
> I have seen that section - it's not anywhere near the other three
> sections. It's back in dairy and dairy lookalikes by the milk and
> faux milks.
>
> Double or triple, though? I'll check my Hole Foods. The flagship
> store here in Austin is the most expensive grocer on the planet.

I don't know about the cheeses but their Mortadella was much higher than
Central Market. I was shocked when I saw how much more.

In article >,
says...
>
>
> Also: I discovered another steaming method. My one handled strainer fits perfectly over my 3 qt. saucepan,
so no need to haul out the giant steaming 'kit' to do a bit of veggies.
I HATE washing that big clunker....

I use these easy little collapsible ss steamer baskets almost every
day.. they adjust to any pan size

http://tinyurl.com/o6fq245

Janet UK

On 6/7/2014 7:17 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>>
>> Also: I discovered another steaming method. My one handled strainer fits perfectly over my 3 qt. saucepan,
> so no need to haul out the giant steaming 'kit' to do a bit of veggies.
> I HATE washing that big clunker....
>
> I use these easy little collapsible ss steamer baskets almost every
> day.. they adjust to any pan size
>
> http://tinyurl.com/o6fq245
>
> Janet UK
>
>
I have a couple of those. They're very handy!

Jill

On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 21:26:39 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:


>
>I don't know about the cheeses but their Mortadella was much higher than
>Central Market. I was shocked when I saw how much more.

Same brand? There are huge differences in quality and flavor from the
cheap stuff to the really good stuff.

On Friday, June 6, 2014 10:41:46 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/6/2014 8:58 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>
> > AS A RULE, do you find that prepackaged sliced cheese is cheaper or costlier than at the deli counter?
>
>
>
> Are you talking about American processed cheese? That stuff is not
>
> pre-sliced, but it is extruded, cut, and stacked.
>
>
>
> The only deli sliced cheese I buy is Hoffman"s Super Sharp. The
>
> packaged stuff is nasty.

I'm talking about an item like packaged Land o Lakes Provolone vs. what's in the deli case in bulk. Of course, they offer there the house brand plus up to the Boar's Head quality. Maybe I need to do a in depth study.

On Sat, 7 Jun 2014 12:17:40 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>>
>> Also: I discovered another steaming method. My one handled strainer fits perfectly over my 3 qt. saucepan,
>so no need to haul out the giant steaming 'kit' to do a bit of veggies.
>I HATE washing that big clunker....
>
> I use these easy little collapsible ss steamer baskets almost every
>day.. they adjust to any pan size
>
> http://tinyurl.com/o6fq245

I used to have one of those, and they are *very* handy. But I now use
my large-ish saucepan with the steamer insert. It's big enough to hold
2-3 different vegetables at one time. You get most of the meal done in
one pan.

I steam everything, including potatoes, so my steamer is used every
day.

Doris

On 6/7/2014 9:02 AM, l not -l wrote:
> On 7-Jun-2014, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>>
>>> Also: I discovered another steaming method. My one handled strainer
>>> fits perfectly over my 3 qt. saucepan,
>> so no need to haul out the giant steaming 'kit' to do a bit of veggies.
>> I HATE washing that big clunker....
>>
>> I use these easy little collapsible ss steamer baskets almost every
>> day.. they adjust to any pan size
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/o6fq245
> +1
> I have used similar steamer baskets for years; 2 sizes, both used several
> times/week. They are great for broccoli, kale, B size potatoes, green beans
> - well, almost anything you want to steam. I prefer the type where the
> center-post can be removed when not needed.
>
The two I have, the center post unscrews. I love those little
collapsible steamer baskets. They're inexpensive and so easy to store.

Jill

I buy cheese at Costco and repackage it with the vacuum packer. For other times and other cheeses, our Sprouts store slices and packages meat and cheese from their deli every morning. It is the same product and is freshly sliced grab and go with no waiting at the deli counter. They have house brand that is good and Boar's Head on request. Our King Soopers (Kroger) has different deli meat and cheese in different parts of town. The classy stores only carry Boar's Head and the rest of town gets some really cheap stuff..

DaleP

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 21:47:53 -0400, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> At my local Whole Foods, the prepackaged stuff is way more expensive,
>> but I think that's the exception and not the rule. In that case, I
>> guess people don't want to wait at the deli counter. Same brand, but
>> price per pound is often double or triple - really.
>
> That *is* really out of whack. But Hole Foods is not a normal store.
> Have have never bought deli meat or cheese at WF because I looked at
> the prices once and told myself to ignore these items from now on. I
> didn't even know they had pre-sliced cheese. Come to think of it, yes
> I have seen that section - it's not anywhere near the other three
> sections. It's back in dairy and dairy lookalikes by the milk and
> faux milks.
>
> Double or triple, though? I'll check my Hole Foods. The flagship
> store here in Austin is the most expensive grocer on the planet.
>
> -sw

Yes.

If memory serves, there is a BBQ Chicken deli meat that our boys both
like in sandwiches. It's $9.99 per pound at the deli counter, but the
prepacked - same brand (Applegate or something like that) is over thirty
dollars a pound. I think it was $10.99 for a 6 ounce package.or
something like that.

I will confirm when I'm there again next week.

-S-

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> >
> > Also: I discovered another steaming method. My one handled strainer fits perfectly over my 3 qt. saucepan,
> so no need to haul out the giant steaming 'kit' to do a bit of veggies.
> I HATE washing that big clunker....
>
> I use these easy little collapsible ss steamer baskets almost every
> day.. they adjust to any pan size

I have one of those collapsible baskets and even they can be a pain to
clean..

I normally put any veggies to steam in my smallest saucepan. Maybe
fill it up about 4" with the veggies, then add just enough water to
steam and not dry up. The bottom 1/4 inch might be boiled but all the
rest (above the water) will be steamed.

And if you're doing broccoli that way, do remember to drink the
leftover water as tea. It's good.

G.

On 2014-06-07, Sqwertz > wrote:

> Again, you must have really shitty grocers if your Walmart is the best
> you have.

This from someone who gushes over Costco cheese while belittling
others. Is sqwertz a shellie sock?

nb

Doris Night wrote:
>
> I steam everything, including potatoes, so my steamer is used every
> day.

I normally just microwave my potatoes. I only bake them when cooking
something else in the oven. An occasional treat here is cut up and
boil potatoes, drain, then add in butter and s&p. I don't make them
that way often but I always like them when I do.

I just bought a 5lb bag of small red potatoes...my favorites.

G.

On 2014-06-07, Sqwertz > wrote:

> You're not getting much backup for "Costco doesn't carry decent
> cheeses" argument, so I'm not sure why you keep advertising your
> ignorance.

Ignoring the pitiful ad hominem attack, probably cuz I usta shop a
Costco and found absolutely zip quality on any food front. OTOH, I'll
sing the praises of their pharmacy. Can't be beat.

> Now I want some Delice de Bourgogne and Roquefort cheese from CostCo -
> two of the top 5 cheeses in the world.

Apparently, you have access to one of the "top 5" Costco's on the
entire planet, unlike all the rest of us poor nebishes.

nb

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...

> I have never heard anybody present the argument that Costco has lousy
> food across the board. And that includes the hundreds of threads here
> in RFC over the last couple decades. Let this mark the beginning of
> your increasingly blatant absurdity, Sheldon II.
>
> -sw

Well, I have to agree that I think Costco has wonderful food at wonderful
prices as a rule, with the Kirkland Brands coming in on the very good side,
so if you have one of the top 5 and I have one of the top 5, that leaves 3.
Are there 3 other posters here that have one of the top 5? ;-)

Cheri

On 6/7/2014 1:46 PM, Cheri wrote:

> Well, I have to agree that I think Costco has wonderful food at
> wonderful prices as a rule, with the Kirkland Brands coming in on the
> very good side, so if you have one of the top 5 and I have one of the
> top 5, that leaves 3. Are there 3 other posters here that have one of
> the top 5? ;-)
>
Me.

On 6/7/2014 1:46 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I have never heard anybody present the argument that Costco has lousy
>> food across the board. And that includes the hundreds of threads here
>> in RFC over the last couple decades. Let this mark the beginning of
>> your increasingly blatant absurdity, Sheldon II.

> Well, I have to agree that I think Costco has wonderful food at
> wonderful prices as a rule, with the Kirkland Brands coming in on the
> very good side, so if you have one of the top 5 and I have one of the
> top 5, that leaves 3. Are there 3 other posters here that have one of
> the top 5? ;-)

Gosh, I've got a few Costcos around here that can easily fill
that list. Guess we got it covered.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/7/2014 1:46 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I have never heard anybody present the argument that Costco has lousy
>>> food across the board. And that includes the hundreds of threads here
>>> in RFC over the last couple decades. Let this mark the beginning of
>>> your increasingly blatant absurdity, Sheldon II.
>
>> Well, I have to agree that I think Costco has wonderful food at
>> wonderful prices as a rule, with the Kirkland Brands coming in on the
>> very good side, so if you have one of the top 5 and I have one of the
>> top 5, that leaves 3. Are there 3 other posters here that have one of
>> the top 5? ;-)
>
> Gosh, I've got a few Costcos around here that can easily fill
> that list. Guess we got it covered.
>
> nancy

Glad to hear it.

Cheri

On 6/7/2014 7:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/7/2014 7:17 AM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>>
>>> Also: I discovered another steaming method. My one handled strainer
>>> fits perfectly over my 3 qt. saucepan,
>> so no need to haul out the giant steaming 'kit' to do a bit of veggies.
>> I HATE washing that big clunker....
>>
>> I use these easy little collapsible ss steamer baskets almost every
>> day.. they adjust to any pan size
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/o6fq245
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>>
> I have a couple of those. They're very handy!
>
> Jill

I need to get something like that, and I'd love to find a solid version
to use as a double boiler.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

On 6/7/2014 8:57 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 6/7/2014 7:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 6/7/2014 7:17 AM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also: I discovered another steaming method. My one handled strainer
>>>> fits perfectly over my 3 qt. saucepan,
>>> so no need to haul out the giant steaming 'kit' to do a bit of veggies.
>>> I HATE washing that big clunker....
>>>
>>> I use these easy little collapsible ss steamer baskets almost every
>>> day.. they adjust to any pan size
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/o6fq245
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>>
>> I have a couple of those. They're very handy!
>>
>> Jill
>
> I need to get something like that, and I'd love to find a solid version
> to use as a double boiler.
>
Got a metal mixing bowl? One that doesn't quite fit into whatever pan
you're using? I promise, I thought this up all by myself. Then I
figured I should look online in case it was crazy thinking. Dang, now I
can't take credit!

http://unsophisticook.com/how-to-make-a-double-boiler/

Jill

On 6/7/14, 5:28 PM, dalep wrote:

> Our Costco's (Denver area) have wonderful cheeses. They carry
> Tillamook, Rondele, Vincent Van Gogh Gouda, and a whole selection of
> other great cheeses.

Other? Those are all very ordinary, mass-produced cheeses. Can you name
one actually excellent cheese that they carry?

> Don't see prime beef in a mass market store anymore!

Hmmm -- I see prime beef in Publix, Fresh Market, and Whole Foods every
other day.

-- Larry

On 6/7/2014 9:13 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>> I need to get something like that, and I'd love to find a solid version
>> to use as a double boiler.
>>
> Got a metal mixing bowl? One that doesn't quite fit into whatever pan
> you're using? I promise, I thought this up all by myself. Then I
> figured I should look online in case it was crazy thinking. Dang, now I
> can't take credit!
>
> http://unsophisticook.com/how-to-make-a-double-boiler/

The only metal mixing bowl I have is way too big for any of my pots
other than the biggest dutch oven. I need to get a smaller metal bowl
for using as a double boiler. I thought the idea of an adjustable one
would be great.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

On 6/7/2014 10:01 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 6/7/2014 9:13 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> I need to get something like that, and I'd love to find a solid version
>>> to use as a double boiler.
>>>
>> Got a metal mixing bowl? One that doesn't quite fit into whatever pan
>> you're using? I promise, I thought this up all by myself. Then I
>> figured I should look online in case it was crazy thinking. Dang, now I
>> can't take credit!
>>
>> http://unsophisticook.com/how-to-make-a-double-boiler/
>
> The only metal mixing bowl I have is way too big for any of my pots
> other than the biggest dutch oven. I need to get a smaller metal bowl
> for using as a double boiler. I thought the idea of an adjustable one
> would be great.
>
I wish I'd heard of something like that but I can't picture how
"adjustable" would work and also still be solid. If you know what I mean.

Jill

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 21:26:39 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>
>>I don't know about the cheeses but their Mortadella was much higher than
>>Central Market. I was shocked when I saw how much more.
>
> Same brand? There are huge differences in quality and flavor from the
> cheap stuff to the really good stuff.

I don't know if it was the same brand or not but Central Market only sells
high quality stuff. They are very similar to Whole Foods except that they
also sell some main stream things that Whole Foods doesn't.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 21:49:16 -0400, pltrgyst wrote:
>
>> On 6/7/14, 5:28 PM, dalep wrote:
>>
>>> Our Costco's (Denver area) have wonderful cheeses. They carry
>>> Tillamook, Rondele, Vincent Van Gogh Gouda, and a whole selection of
>>> other great cheeses.
>>
>> Other? Those are all very ordinary, mass-produced cheeses. Can you name
>> one actually excellent cheese that they carry?
>
> Yeah - that didn't quite help my point. But like Boobie, that is what
> people may consider a decent cheese lineup not knowing any better;
> they don't recognize good cheeses when they see them.

Tillamook is a really good cheddar!

In article om>,
says...
>
> On 6/7/2014 7:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 6/7/2014 7:17 AM, Janet wrote:
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Also: I discovered another steaming method. My one handled strainer
> >>> fits perfectly over my 3 qt. saucepan,
> >> so no need to haul out the giant steaming 'kit' to do a bit of veggies.
> >> I HATE washing that big clunker....
> >>
> >> I use these easy little collapsible ss steamer baskets almost every
> >> day.. they adjust to any pan size
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/o6fq245
> >>
> >> Janet UK
> >>
> >>
> > I have a couple of those. They're very handy!
> >
> > Jill
>
> I need to get something like that, and I'd love to find a solid version
> to use as a double boiler.

I often cook some root veg like carrots in the water beneath the
steamer, with an assortment of green veg steaming in the basket(s)
above.

My stock pot and pressure cooker both have inserts to work as a db
but the only time I ever use them that way is to steam suet or sponge
puddings or Xmas puddings.

If you mean a double base pan for cooking custard, I just use a small
saucepan (or a bowl), inside a bigger saucepan which has spoons (and
water) in the bottom. The spoons stop the bowl/ inner pan touching the
bottom of the outer one.

Janet UK

On 6/8/14, 3:11 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Tillamook is a really good cheddar!

OK. I guess thinking so saves you some money. {shrug}

-- Larry

pltrgyst wrote:
>
> On 6/8/14, 3:11 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > Tillamook is a really good cheddar!
>
> OK. I guess thinking so saves you some money. {shrug}

I always buy the Cabot's "Seriously Sharp" cheddar cheese and it's
good. It used to be called "Hunter's Cheese, I think." I've never even
shopped around for better but if anyone here has a good recommendation
for a better sharp cheese, I'll try it. The sharper the better. I
really like the bite. And mild cheddar cheese tastes just like
american cheese product to me...nasty

On Saturday, June 7, 2014 11:11:00 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>
> >
>
> > In article >,
>
> > says...
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Also: I discovered another steaming method. My one handled strainer fits perfectly over my 3 qt. saucepan,
>
> > so no need to haul out the giant steaming 'kit' to do a bit of veggies.
>
> > I HATE washing that big clunker....
>
> >
>
> > I use these easy little collapsible ss steamer baskets almost every
>
> > day.. they adjust to any pan size
>
>
>
> I have one of those collapsible baskets and even they can be a pain to
>
> clean..
>
>
>
> I normally put any veggies to steam in my smallest saucepan. Maybe
>
> fill it up about 4" with the veggies, then add just enough water to
>
> steam and not dry up. The bottom 1/4 inch might be boiled but all the
>
> rest (above the water) will be steamed.
>
>
>
> And if you're doing broccoli that way, do remember to drink the
>
> leftover water as tea. It's good.
>

Yeah - I had one of those collapsible steamer baskets years ago - must've been cheap. One of the flaps disappeared and then it was useless. Took up room too and i had world's smallest kit at the time.

I also have found that my round cooling rack fits perfectly into one of my deep skillets and also a dutch oven - good for steaming large quantities of big items.

I make a very tiny double boiler too out of a one cup metal msrg cup and a small metal saucepan.


>
> G.

On 6/8/2014 9:18 AM, Gary wrote:

> I always buy the Cabot's "Seriously Sharp" cheddar cheese and it's
> good. It used to be called "Hunter's Cheese, I think." I've never even
> shopped around for better but if anyone here has a good recommendation
> for a better sharp cheese, I'll try it. The sharper the better. I
> really like the bite. And mild cheddar cheese tastes just like
> american cheese product to me...nasty

Their Seriously Sharp cheddar is one of my favorites, too. I love
cheese, although I do not buy as much as I used to, when my children
were living at home. My oldest son would eat anything, but gorgonzola
and roquefort were my youngest son's favorites.

Becca

On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 09:15:03 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
> wrote:

>On Saturday, June 7, 2014 11:11:00 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Janet wrote:
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>> > In article >,
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>> > says...
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>> > > Also: I discovered another steaming method. My one handled strainer fits perfectly over my 3 qt. saucepan,
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>> > so no need to haul out the giant steaming 'kit' to do a bit of veggies.
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>> > I HATE washing that big clunker....
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>> >
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>> > I use these easy little collapsible ss steamer baskets almost every
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>> > day.. they adjust to any pan size
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>> I have one of those collapsible baskets and even they can be a pain to
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>> clean..
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>> I normally put any veggies to steam in my smallest saucepan. Maybe
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>> fill it up about 4" with the veggies, then add just enough water to
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>> steam and not dry up. The bottom 1/4 inch might be boiled but all the
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>> rest (above the water) will be steamed.
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>>
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>> And if you're doing broccoli that way, do remember to drink the
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>> leftover water as tea. It's good.
>>
>
>Yeah - I had one of those collapsible steamer baskets years ago - must've been cheap. One of the flaps disappeared and then it was useless. Took up room too and i had world's smallest kit at the time.
>
>I also have found that my round cooling rack fits perfectly into one of my deep skillets and also a dutch oven - good for steaming large quantities of big items.
>
>I make a very tiny double boiler too out of a one cup metal msrg cup and a small metal saucepan.


Long ago I had one of those steamer baskets... they're useless... when
you steam veggies and toss the water you are tossing a lot of the
nutrients too. I much prefer microwaving veggies.

On 6/8/2014 1:01 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Long ago I had one of those steamer baskets... they're useless... when
> you steam veggies and toss the water you are tossing a lot of the
> nutrients too. I much prefer microwaving veggies.

No one ever said you have to toss the water used to steam the veggies.
Don't you add some water when you microwave veggies?

Jill

On 6/8/2014 1:51 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/8/2014 1:01 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Long ago I had one of those steamer baskets... they're useless... when
>> you steam veggies and toss the water you are tossing a lot of the
>> nutrients too. I much prefer microwaving veggies.
>
> No one ever said you have to toss the water used to steam the veggies.
> Don't you add some water when you microwave veggies?

If the water isn't high enough to touch the vegetables, how
much of the nutrition is going to slide off from the steam?

nancy