On 2014-06-16 00:46, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:09:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> When you are driving with cruise control it does feel like you are just
>> steering but... You do have to be aware of things around you. You might
>> need to apply the brakes. The car won't do that for you.
>
> My cars have cruise control, but I've never used it. I think it's
> something guys like to brag about using.
>


Who was bragging about cruise control or using it?

On 2014-06-16 00:56, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> My cars have cruise control, but I've never used it. I think it's
>> something guys like to brag about using.
>
> My dad used to love it and my husband loves it. I never liked it.


Get someone to show you how it works.

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 13:58:11 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Monday, June 16, 2014 10:48:21 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > On 6/16/2014 1:51 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > > "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>
>> > > ...
>>
>> > >> On 6/15/2014 8:57 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> > >>>
>>
>> > >>>
>>
>> > >>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>
>> > >>>> I'm all for self-driving cars. For one thing, tailgaters wouldn't
>>
>> > >>>> bother me and I'd never have to worry about being cut off.
>>
>> > >>>
>>
>> > >>> ...until it developed a fault ... eeeeeek not for me.
>>
>> > >>>
>>
>> > >>>
>>
>> > >>
>>
>> > >> New technology is always scary. As it goes, we place our lives into
>>
>> > >> the hands of computers every day. Most times, they function
>>
>> > >> flawlessly. It takes a human to really mess things up. My brother says
>>
>> > >> that most commercial planes land by computer. That's something the
>>
>> > >> airlines don't want you to know.
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > > I won't fly any more. I have done too much of it and hated it every
>>
>> > > time. I don't need to do it now, thank goodness When we visit
>>
>> > > daughter and family in Germany we take the overnight ferry and drive.
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I don't care much for it either. I can't believe that we still fly in
>>
>> > planes with propellers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Planes with propellers are safer.
>>
>
>Than what? Planes without propellers? My guess is that prop planes are a lot more hazardious to your health than jets. I have not researched any of this but my guts tell me that this is so. Are you calling my guts a liar?

Your guts might be telling fibs
Of course, there is a massive difference between crash rates of
private, small planes like Cessnas and commercial airliners -
propellers or not. Varies hugely country by country too, due to
differing standards.

On 2014-06-16 19:36, jmcquown wrote:
>> I wonder why there is a yellow light for a second or so before the
>> change to green In Germany? I thought it was to give enough time to
>> shift into gear.
>>
> I couldn't speak about in Germany but I drive a manual transmission.
> When I'm stopped at a red light I put the car in 1st and wait for the
> light to change. IOW the car is already in gear when the light turns
> green. Why would you sit there with the car in neutral?
>
>

There are a couple reasons to leave the car idling in neutral at a
light. If it is a hydraulic clutch and the system springs a leak the
clutch will engage and the car will go forward. If you have your
transmission is in gear and clutch disengaged and you get rear-ended,
you foot could slip off the clutch and you get a jump start driving you
forward in gear.

On 2014-06-16 19:42, Jeßus wrote:

>> I suppose since they have
>> cameras on cars now to monitor what's behind the car when you're
>> backing up, that they'll put one on a side mirror angled to monitor
>> parking parallel to the curb and you'll just look at the mirror to see
>> how you're doing.
>
> I guess the idea is redundant now that cameras have become commonly
> available.


I heard something on the news a week or two ago about the US thinking
about requiring back on cameras on new cars after 2015, a result of an
incident where a woman ran over her own child.

I can't see back up cameras being much use for that. There are too many
other places that people should be looking when backing up. A driver
looking in the mirrors and looking out windows should be better able to
spot something moving in behind them than a back up camera. It came
with my new CRV and I find it useful only for determining how much space
you have behind you. The image is not all that clear and if the lens is
covered with dirt, snow or ice you see nothing.

On 6/16/14, 5:39 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>>> I don't care much for it either. I can't believe that we still fly in
>>> planes with propellers.
>>
>> Why? It's frequently more practical and appropriate than jet engines.
>
> You are totally correct about practical and appropriate. OTOH, I don't like the noise and vibration that we have to endure inside the cabin. It has a feeling of crudeness like an old diesel engine car.

That may be, but prop planes routinely fly at much lower altitudes,
which can be a great experience. A few years ago, we took a seaplane
from Vancouver to Victoria Island. Because of weather, we had to fly all
the way at less than 1,000 feet, and it was spectacularly beautiful.

-- Larry

On 2014-06-16 19:36, jmcquown wrote:
> I couldn't speak about in Germany but I drive a manual transmission.
> When I'm stopped at a red light I put the car in 1st and wait for the
> light to change. IOW the car is already in gear when the light turns
> green. Why would you sit there with the car in neutral?

Because sitting there with the car in gear causes unnecessary wear on
the clutch and throw-out bearing.

-- Larry

On 6/16/2014 1:48 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Not calling your guts a liar.... just wondering what makes you think
> they are safer. One major risk with a propeller is walking into it.
> That doesn't often happen because people who know enough about planes to
> be around them know better than to be near one that that is spinning.
> You can get sucked into a get engine, and you can get a hell of a blast
> and burn if you are too close to the exhaust.
>
> Then there are turboprops, which are basically jet engine powered
> propellers.
My main objection to prop planes is the noise and vibration. They also
tend to be on the small side which means they're more apt to be pushed
around by turbulence and crosswinds. As far as safety goes, prop planes
are more likely to crash simply because they're more likely to be
privately owned aircraft. The reasons why you're more likely to crash in
a privately owned plane than in a commercial plane is unknown to me.

The planes I have ridden on were modern turboprops - they are still
nasty, harsh, beasts.

On 6/16/2014 1:51 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
> It's usually called yellow but I have heard the it referred to as amber.

I guess that what they mean by "amber alert" that all y'alls keep
talking about. (-:

On 6/16/2014 1:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
> Ahem! I'm not a male.

Holy shit! You're kidding right?!

On 6/16/2014 2:12 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-06-16 19:36, jmcquown wrote:
>>> I wonder why there is a yellow light for a second or so before the
>>> change to green In Germany? I thought it was to give enough time to
>>> shift into gear.
>>>
>> I couldn't speak about in Germany but I drive a manual transmission.
>> When I'm stopped at a red light I put the car in 1st and wait for the
>> light to change. IOW the car is already in gear when the light turns
>> green. Why would you sit there with the car in neutral?
>>
>>
>
> There are a couple reasons to leave the car idling in neutral at a
> light. If it is a hydraulic clutch and the system springs a leak the
> clutch will engage and the car will go forward. If you have your
> transmission is in gear and clutch disengaged and you get rear-ended,
> you foot could slip off the clutch and you get a jump start driving you
> forward in gear.
>

The reason I wouldn't sit at a stop light with the clutch pedal pushed
in is that you're wearing out the throwout bearing. The throwout bearing
allows the fingers of the pressure plate to be pushed in to disengage
the clutch. In the old days, these bearings would be a common point of
failure. If you apply the clutch and hear a funny whirring noise, it's
your bearing making the noise. It's going to get louder as it starts
grinding itself to metal particles. I treat the clutch pedal as if it
was red hot so it's never pressed down for very long.

On 6/16/2014 2:42 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 6/16/14, 5:39 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>>> I don't care much for it either. I can't believe that we still fly in
>>>> planes with propellers.
>>>
>>> Why? It's frequently more practical and appropriate than jet engines.
>>
>> You are totally correct about practical and appropriate. OTOH, I don't
>> like the noise and vibration that we have to endure inside the cabin.
>> It has a feeling of crudeness like an old diesel engine car.
>
> That may be, but prop planes routinely fly at much lower altitudes,
> which can be a great experience. A few years ago, we took a seaplane
> from Vancouver to Victoria Island. Because of weather, we had to fly all
> the way at less than 1,000 feet, and it was spectacularly beautiful.
>
> -- Larry
>
>

I'm not so anxious to get into one of those flying death traps. I could
easily do this because my brother likes buzzing around in planes of
varying sizes. I think his current ride is a new Airbus. Let me tell
you, I ain't been up with him even once. I hope to keep it that way.

On 6/16/2014 6:44 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

> My bro has it built in, in his car and it was a PITA to use. My SIL was
> trying to get me to the hospital and the maps weren't updated so the
> hospital wasn't on there. Also, it wouldn't let her do anything to it
> while the car was running. I like the portable one because I don't
> anyone else who has it in their car. I can take it with me and always
> have it.

They both have advantages and disadvantages, but don't judge them all by
your one bad experience.
On mine you can go to the POI and one category is hospitals.

You can also program it while moving by either touch screen or voice
commands. When I put the car in reverse, the screen becomes the rearview
camera view.

On 6/16/2014 4:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:

>
> Edward, you're embarrassing yourself in this thread.

Who's Edward?

On 6/16/2014 12:28 AM, jinx the minx wrote:

> Lots of men have trouble with parallel parking too. I don't think it's
> gender specific. Personally, I don't understand what's so difficult about
> it.
>

It is a skill you have to practice. When I lived in the city, I could
park in a spot inches bigger than my car. It was a matter of survival.
Now that I only do it every couple of months, I need a little more space.

On 6/16/2014 6:36 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> I couldn't speak about in Germany but I drive a manual transmission.
> When I'm stopped at a red light I put the car in 1st and wait for the
> light to change. IOW the car is already in gear when the light turns
> green. Why would you sit there with the car in neutral?

I also drive a stick and use the clutch only when needed. IOW, at stop
lights I keep the transmission in neutral, shifting to first gear only
when the light turns green.

When I was taught to drive a stick (at age 16) I was taught by both
parents, both of whom used to race sports cars. Both taught me to use
the clutch only when needed and to never sit at a stop with the clutch
engaged. However, my father could drive a stick without ever using the
clutch. He loved to show off when driving a stick. (-:

--
DreadfulBitch

I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfect.

On 6/16/2014 2:42 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 2014-06-16 19:36, jmcquown wrote:
>> I couldn't speak about in Germany but I drive a manual transmission.
>> When I'm stopped at a red light I put the car in 1st and wait for the
>> light to change. IOW the car is already in gear when the light turns
>> green. Why would you sit there with the car in neutral?
>
> Because sitting there with the car in gear causes unnecessary wear on
> the clutch and throw-out bearing.
>
> -- Larry
>
>

You might know the answer to this one: On the last car that I changed
the clutch and pressure plate, I did not remove the engine or the
transmission. What kind of car was it?

On 6/16/2014 8:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> I heard something on the news a week or two ago about the US thinking
> about requiring back on cameras on new cars after 2015, a result of an
> incident where a woman ran over her own child.

There are a couple of hundred deaths a year from backing over someone.
Very often, it is their own kid.


>
> I can't see back up cameras being much use for that. There are too many
> other places that people should be looking when backing up. A driver
> looking in the mirrors and looking out windows should be better able to
> spot something moving in behind them than a back up camera.

Every car has a blind spot right in back of the trunk or tailgate. Easy
for a child to be hidden no matter how you look in mirrors or turn you
head. With a van or SUV, the window is above most young children.


It came
> with my new CRV and I find it useful only for determining how much space
> you have behind you. The image is not all that clear and if the lens is
> covered with dirt, snow or ice you see nothing.

In snow, mine has been obscured, but never dead. I could at least see
if anything is behind me. Makes backing very easy and the bending lines
are a great guide. The cross lines are very accurate when backing near
an object. You can safely get within a couple of inches.

Most useful option on my car.

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:19:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I can't see back up cameras being much use for that. There are too many
> other places that people should be looking when backing up. A driver
> looking in the mirrors and looking out windows should be better able to
> spot something moving in behind them than a back up camera. It came
> with my new CRV and I find it useful only for determining how much space
> you have behind you. The image is not all that clear and if the lens is
> covered with dirt, snow or ice you see nothing.

My DD's car came with that feature. It's a wide view and there are
parallel lines to show the track where the car is backing.

--
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:31:37 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 6/16/2014 6:44 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > My bro has it built in, in his car and it was a PITA to use. My SIL was
> > trying to get me to the hospital and the maps weren't updated so the
> > hospital wasn't on there. Also, it wouldn't let her do anything to it
> > while the car was running. I like the portable one because I don't
> > anyone else who has it in their car. I can take it with me and always
> > have it.
>
> They both have advantages and disadvantages, but don't judge them all by
> your one bad experience.
> On mine you can go to the POI and one category is hospitals.
>
> You can also program it while moving by either touch screen or voice
> commands. When I put the car in reverse, the screen becomes the rearview
> camera view.

It's not the system's fault if the user doesn't install updates.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:51:25 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

> Another good idea - not sure if on roads O/S or not - is 'bumps' on
> the edges of the road, to make your tyres make a lot of noise, in case
> you've nodded off and are veering off the road. They are not on all of
> our roads, just the long distance, boring stretches where these sort
> of accidents commonly happen.

That's old school. The new type is parallel line type indentations
that make the hum to wake you up if you drive over them. It's less
expensive, because they are stamped.

--
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 16:45:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 06:17:42 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:56:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"sf" > wrote in message
> >> .. .
> >> >> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:09:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> When you are driving with cruise control it does feel like you are
> >> >>> just
> >> >>> steering but... You do have to be aware of things around you. You
> >> >>> might
> >> >>> need to apply the brakes. The car won't do that for you.
> >> >>
> >> >> My cars have cruise control, but I've never used it. I think it's
> >> >> something guys like to brag about using.
> >>
> >> Why on earth would 'guys' brag about cruise control????
> >
> > You tell me. The only time I see it mentioned here it's a male
> > poster.
>
> Ahem! I'm not a male.

Have you ever been the first one to talk about it? That's my point.
Sure there are always "me toos" but the first one to bring it up is
always a male. Women simply don't have the need to bring it up like
that.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On 6/16/2014 8:19 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> I heard something on the news a week or two ago about the US thinking
>> about requiring back on cameras on new cars after 2015, a result of an
>> incident where a woman ran over her own child.
>
> There are a couple of hundred deaths a year from backing over someone.
> Very often, it is their own kid.


This exact thing happened 3 houses down from mine when I was in the 4th
grade. I'll never forget it.
--
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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:43:10 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 21:11:08 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"dsi1" > wrote in message
>>>>> I thought the pips on the highways were a very good idea. The signs
>>>>> will
>>>>> say to keep a two pip distance between cars. We need that in this
>>>>> country!
>>>
>>> What is a pip? Is that like the three second rule? Thats what we use,
>>> anyway.
>>
>>I assumed he means by the markings on the road. I haven't seen them up
>>here but I have in the south of England. There are markings on the road
>>and
>>instructions to keep two markings between you and the car in front.
>
> Thanks. Sounds like a good idea.
>
> Another good idea - not sure if on roads O/S or not - is 'bumps' on
> the edges of the road, to make your tyres make a lot of noise, in case
> you've nodded off and are veering off the road. They are not on all of
> our roads, just the long distance, boring stretches where these sort
> of accidents commonly happen.

We have those too but I don't think they are in too many roads. What we
call 'speed bumps' are those huge lumps across the road to slow you down


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:45:58 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>
>> >
>> > Males like gadgets and widgets, females don't seem to care. Why the
>> > heck
>> > don't they care about gadgets and widgets!?
>> >
>>
>> I do <g>
>
> Except you resist the compulsion to bring them up here.

Compulsion? We are discussing cars and their components. I am a bit
confused here ...

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> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:46:24 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 06:17:42 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:56:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >"sf" > wrote in message
>>>> .. .
>>>> >> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:09:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> When you are driving with cruise control it does feel like you are
>>>> >>> just
>>>> >>> steering but... You do have to be aware of things around you. You
>>>> >>> might
>>>> >>> need to apply the brakes. The car won't do that for you.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> My cars have cruise control, but I've never used it. I think it's
>>>> >> something guys like to brag about using.
>>>>
>>>> Why on earth would 'guys' brag about cruise control????
>>>
>>> You tell me. The only time I see it mentioned here it's a male
>>> poster.
>>
>>I am not male and I have made comment. So has Nancy.
>
> I love my cruise control, use it all the time on the highway, that way
> I don't get tickets. I don't exactly plan to speed, it just 'happens'
> lol
>
> I love gadgets, especially technical ones, I can spend hours in Future
> Shop, Staples, Best Buy etc but rarely go through the doors of
> clothing stores. Buy my clothing online, easier and it gets delivered
> to my door.

Pretty much the same for me

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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 21:41:44 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:56:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"sf" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:09:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When you are driving with cruise control it does feel like you are
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> steering but... You do have to be aware of things around you. You
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> need to apply the brakes. The car won't do that for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> My cars have cruise control, but I've never used it. I think it's
>>>>> something guys like to brag about using.
>>>
>>> Why on earth would 'guys' brag about cruise control????
>>
>>I'm not even going there ...
>
> OK. But I'm still baffled by it

No good asking me

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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, June 16, 2014 11:45:58 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > On Monday, June 16, 2014 11:39:56 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
>>
>> >> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 06:17:42 +1000, Je�us > wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:56:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > > wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > >
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > >"sf" > wrote in message
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > .. .
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > >> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:09:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > >> > wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > >>> When you are driving with cruise control it does feel like you
>> >> > >>> are
>>
>> >> > >>> just
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > >>> steering but... You do have to be aware of things around you.
>> >> > >>> You
>>
>> >> > >>> might
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > >>> need to apply the brakes. The car won't do that for you.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > >> My cars have cruise control, but I've never used it. I think
>> >> > >> it's
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > >> something guys like to brag about using.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > Why on earth would 'guys' brag about cruise control????
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> You tell me. The only time I see it mentioned here it's a male
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> poster.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Males like gadgets and widgets, females don't seem to care. Why the
>> > heck
>>
>> > don't they care about gadgets and widgets!?
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> I do <g>
>>
>
> Like I said - you're one heck of a gal or more properly, lassie. I don't
> use the word lassie much because over here "Lassie" is a dog on TV. :-)

Hmmm good thing I love dogs eh?;-)


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:31:37 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 6/16/2014 6:44 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > My bro has it built in, in his car and it was a PITA to use. My SIL
>> > was
>> > trying to get me to the hospital and the maps weren't updated so the
>> > hospital wasn't on there. Also, it wouldn't let her do anything to it
>> > while the car was running. I like the portable one because I don't
>> > anyone else who has it in their car. I can take it with me and always
>> > have it.
>>
>> They both have advantages and disadvantages, but don't judge them all by
>> your one bad experience.
>> On mine you can go to the POI and one category is hospitals.
>>
>> You can also program it while moving by either touch screen or voice
>> commands. When I put the car in reverse, the screen becomes the rearview
>> camera view.
>
> It's not the system's fault if the user doesn't install updates.
>
As I said... She DID install the updates.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 16:45:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 06:17:42 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:56:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"sf" > wrote in message
>> >> .. .
>> >> >> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:09:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> When you are driving with cruise control it does feel like you are
>> >> >>> just
>> >> >>> steering but... You do have to be aware of things around you.
>> >> >>> You
>> >> >>> might
>> >> >>> need to apply the brakes. The car won't do that for you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My cars have cruise control, but I've never used it. I think it's
>> >> >> something guys like to brag about using.
>> >>
>> >> Why on earth would 'guys' brag about cruise control????
>> >
>> > You tell me. The only time I see it mentioned here it's a male
>> > poster.
>>
>> Ahem! I'm not a male.
>
> Have you ever been the first one to talk about it? That's my point.
> Sure there are always "me toos" but the first one to bring it up is
> always a male. Women simply don't have the need to bring it up like
> that.

Yeah. I brought it up in this very thread!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:43:10 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
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>>>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 21:11:08 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"dsi1" > wrote in message
>>>>>> I thought the pips on the highways were a very good idea. The signs
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> say to keep a two pip distance between cars. We need that in this
>>>>>> country!
>>>>
>>>> What is a pip? Is that like the three second rule? Thats what we use,
>>>> anyway.
>>>
>>>I assumed he means by the markings on the road. I haven't seen them up
>>>here but I have in the south of England. There are markings on the road
>>>and
>>>instructions to keep two markings between you and the car in front.
>>
>> Thanks. Sounds like a good idea.
>>
>> Another good idea - not sure if on roads O/S or not - is 'bumps' on
>> the edges of the road, to make your tyres make a lot of noise, in case
>> you've nodded off and are veering off the road. They are not on all of
>> our roads, just the long distance, boring stretches where these sort
>> of accidents commonly happen.
>
> We have those too but I don't think they are in too many roads. What we
> call 'speed bumps' are those huge lumps across the road to slow you down
>

We call them that too but they are also called Traffic Calming Devices.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
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>>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:43:10 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 21:11:08 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"dsi1" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> I thought the pips on the highways were a very good idea. The signs
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> say to keep a two pip distance between cars. We need that in this
>>>>>>> country!
>>>>>
>>>>> What is a pip? Is that like the three second rule? Thats what we use,
>>>>> anyway.
>>>>
>>>>I assumed he means by the markings on the road. I haven't seen them up
>>>>here but I have in the south of England. There are markings on the road
>>>>and
>>>>instructions to keep two markings between you and the car in front.
>>>
>>> Thanks. Sounds like a good idea.
>>>
>>> Another good idea - not sure if on roads O/S or not - is 'bumps' on
>>> the edges of the road, to make your tyres make a lot of noise, in case
>>> you've nodded off and are veering off the road. They are not on all of
>>> our roads, just the long distance, boring stretches where these sort
>>> of accidents commonly happen.
>>
>> We have those too but I don't think they are in too many roads. What we
>> call 'speed bumps' are those huge lumps across the road to slow you
>> down
>>
>
> We call them that too but they are also called Traffic Calming Devices.

Yes, I hate the things.

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On 6/16/2014 1:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
> Thanks. Sounds like a good idea.
>
> Another good idea - not sure if on roads O/S or not - is 'bumps' on
> the edges of the road, to make your tyres make a lot of noise, in case
> you've nodded off and are veering off the road. They are not on all of
> our roads, just the long distance, boring stretches where these sort
> of accidents commonly happen.
>
Those bumps on the road was invented in the US and are called "Bott's
dots" I kid you not. They were the solution for having road dividers
that had more visibility under different conditions. Waking up sleeping
drivers was purely unintentional.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 00:27:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:31:37 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/16/2014 6:44 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> > My bro has it built in, in his car and it was a PITA to use. My SIL
>>> > was
>>> > trying to get me to the hospital and the maps weren't updated so the
>>> > hospital wasn't on there. Also, it wouldn't let her do anything to it
>>> > while the car was running. I like the portable one because I don't
>>> > anyone else who has it in their car. I can take it with me and always
>>> > have it.
>>>
>>> They both have advantages and disadvantages, but don't judge them all by
>>> your one bad experience.
>>> On mine you can go to the POI and one category is hospitals.
>>>
>>> You can also program it while moving by either touch screen or voice
>>> commands. When I put the car in reverse, the screen becomes the rearview
>>> camera view.
>>
>> It's not the system's fault if the user doesn't install updates.
>>
>As I said... She DID install the updates.


You said both:
My bro has it built in, in his car and it was a PITA to use. My SIL
was
trying to get me to the hospital and the maps weren't updated so the
hospital wasn't on there.

> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 08:05:48 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:43:10 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 21:11:08 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"dsi1" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> I thought the pips on the highways were a very good idea. The signs
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> say to keep a two pip distance between cars. We need that in this
>>>>>>> country!
>>>>>
>>>>> What is a pip? Is that like the three second rule? Thats what we use,
>>>>> anyway.
>>>>
>>>>I assumed he means by the markings on the road. I haven't seen them up
>>>>here but I have in the south of England. There are markings on the road
>>>>and
>>>>instructions to keep two markings between you and the car in front.
>>>
>>> Thanks. Sounds like a good idea.
>>>
>>> Another good idea - not sure if on roads O/S or not - is 'bumps' on
>>> the edges of the road, to make your tyres make a lot of noise, in case
>>> you've nodded off and are veering off the road. They are not on all of
>>> our roads, just the long distance, boring stretches where these sort
>>> of accidents commonly happen.
>>
>>We have those too but I don't think they are in too many roads. What we
>>call 'speed bumps' are those huge lumps across the road to slow you down
>
> In Jamaica they call those Sleeping Policemen lol

They are called that here too in some places)

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On 2014-06-17 5:47 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 6/16/2014 1:51 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. Sounds like a good idea.
>>
>> Another good idea - not sure if on roads O/S or not - is 'bumps' on
>> the edges of the road, to make your tyres make a lot of noise, in case
>> you've nodded off and are veering off the road. They are not on all of
>> our roads, just the long distance, boring stretches where these sort
>> of accidents commonly happen.
>>
> Those bumps on the road was invented in the US and are called "Bott's
> dots" I kid you not. They were the solution for having road dividers
> that had more visibility under different conditions. Waking up sleeping
> drivers was purely unintentional.

I think he was referring to the rumble strips on the shoulder side of
the road, which we designed to alert drowsy drivers that they are going
off the road.

On 2014-06-17 3:51 AM, Ophelia wrote:

>>
>> We call them that too but they are also called Traffic Calming Devices.
>
> Yes, I hate the things.
>


There is a road near us that has four sets of speed bumps across it. It
is a long, straight, sloping road, and a main artery. When they were
first installed and were nice light concrete against fresh black asphalt
they were very visible. There are signs warning you to slow to 30 kph,
but you really need to keep it down to 20 kph. Personally, I object to
traps requiring you to slow to 20 kph in a 50 kph zone. There are lots
of scars from u bolts hitting the asphalt after those bumps.

On 2014-06-17 12:09 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:19:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> I can't see back up cameras being much use for that. There are too many
>> other places that people should be looking when backing up. A driver
>> looking in the mirrors and looking out windows should be better able to
>> spot something moving in behind them than a back up camera. It came
>> with my new CRV and I find it useful only for determining how much space
>> you have behind you. The image is not all that clear and if the lens is
>> covered with dirt, snow or ice you see nothing.
>
> My DD's car came with that feature. It's a wide view and there are
> parallel lines to show the track where the car is backing.
>


Mine has three different settings, all of them making objects further
away than the appear on the screen. I had to get out and compare the
actual distance with what it showed. When using it, it is really only
good to show that you are really close to something. There is a space
visible you didn't hit it.

It is of no use for checking to see if there are people, animals or
vehicles approaching from the sides.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On 6/16/2014 1:51 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>
>> It's usually called yellow but I have heard the it referred to as amber.
>
> I guess that what they mean by "amber alert" that all y'alls keep talking
> about. (-:

Yep!

"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On 6/16/2014 1:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ahem! I'm not a male.
>
> Holy shit! You're kidding right?!

Nope.