On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:41:30 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
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> ...
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> > On 6/12/2014 4:41 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> My bro has the heated seats. I couldn't stand them. Of course on times
>
> >> I was in there, our temps were somewhere around 50-60 so not all that
>
> >> cold. And I don't think our weather ever gets to zero. Many winters we
>
> >> only have a few days of freezing weather.
>
> >
>
> > I had heated seats in my Sonata. There's not much use for this feature
>
> > where I live but it does afford one the opportunity to make your passenger
>
> > squirm when his/her butt starts feeling all hot and bothered. Mostly,
>
> > people think it's themselves that's heating up, not the seat. It's an
>
> > excellent prank if you live in the tropics.
>
>
>
> That's what I was doing all right. Squirming! I don't even turn the heat
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> on in my car much. Maybe at night if it is really cold. But during the day
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> if the sun is out, that in and of itself can warm things up enough.

It is a most unnatural feeling alright. :-)

On Friday, June 13, 2014 1:22:57 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
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> >
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> > On 6/12/2014 4:32 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> > >
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> > > The idiotic Baby On Board things are back. At first I thought someone
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> > > got one at Goodwill or some such place but now they are everywhere! I
>
> > > was also not a fan of those fancy mudflaps that we used to see. Such as
>
> > > the ones with the seemingly nude women on them.
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> >
>
> > I saw a "Baby on Board" sticker on a car the other day. The goofball
>
> > appeared out of nowhere and cut into my lane. I could hardly believe it.
>
> > After a while, it struck me as being pretty funny.
>
>
>
> You should see how our local school bus drivers drive. Almost always
>
> tailgating, and going over the speed limit just to keep on schedule.
>
> Meanwhile all those kids are in that bus with no seatbelts.

The bus company don't care about no kids. They got the contract for the service and will use the cheapest drivers they can find. It's a money/greed thing.

On Friday, June 13, 2014 1:26:34 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> >
>
> > I had heated seats in my Sonata. There's not much use for this feature
>
> > where I live but it does afford one the opportunity to make your
>
> > passenger squirm when his/her butt starts feeling all hot and bothered.
>
> > Mostly, people think it's themselves that's heating up, not the seat.
>
> > It's an excellent prank if you live in the tropics.
>
>
>
> The first time I drove a car with heated seats, I had never even heard
>
> about them. I started up the car and by the time I got out of my
>
> neighborhood, I could feel something hot down there. My first thought
>
> was, "Oh great...what's wrong with my butt." ;-)
>
>
>
> G.

Let's face it, feeling something warm "down there" is usually not a good sign.

On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:17:29 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-06-12 11:49 PM, dsi1 wrote:
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> >
>
> >
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> > I saw a "Baby on Board" sticker on a car the other day. The goofball
>
> > appeared out of nowhere and cut into my lane. I could hardly believe it.
>
> > After a while, it struck me as being pretty funny.
>
>
>
>
>
> That's like the woman with the MADD sticker on the back of her brown
>
> Mercedes who I used to see flying down our road at more than twice the
>
> speed limit.

The group is against driving drunk, not speeding. Actually, they're probably not adverse to driving drunk, they just don't want their kids doing it.

On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:52:04 AM UTC-10, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:53:15 -1000, dsi1
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >I had heated seats in my Sonata. There's not much use for this feature
>
> >where I live but it does afford one the opportunity to make your
>
> >passenger squirm when his/her butt starts feeling all hot and bothered.
>
> >Mostly, people think it's themselves that's heating up, not the seat.
>
> >It's an excellent prank if you live in the tropics.
>
>
>
> I have heated seats in my Subaru. Thought it was a waste of time and
>
> I'd never use it. I was wrong about that, I love the heated seats now.

We went to WA state to visit and the rental car was a SUV of good size. The cars had a bunch of snow packed on the tires and side. The inside was freezing. That seat gave me quite a shock. It was in that moment of intense pain that the rational for heated seats became clear as crystal to me.

That was about 2 years ago during Thanksgiving and everybody was freaking because there was snow on the road. This is the locals I'm talking about. You'd think they would be used to a little snow on the roads.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:55:47 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:


>My brother-in-law used to drive with a medium sized dog who liked to lay down in the driver's footwell. That blows my mind, man.

Egads. That ain't good.

On Friday, June 13, 2014 11:17:45 AM UTC-10, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:55:47 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>
> wrote:
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> >My brother-in-law used to drive with a medium sized dog who liked to lay down in the driver's footwell. That blows my mind, man.
>
>
>
> Egads. That ain't good.

He was a wheelchair case and used hand operated controls. Still, he had to put his legs somewhere. Maybe he stuck them on the dash. He was a wild rover and would get in the car with his dog Tex and they would disappear for a while. That guy must have loved to drive around and you'd never know where he'd end up. It must have been hard for him stuck in his chair in his small cottage. His long suffering wife was the exact opposite and I suspect that these trips were like vacation days for her.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:52:04 AM UTC-10, Je�us wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:53:15 -1000, dsi1
>>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I have heated seats in my Subaru. Thought it was a waste of time and
>>
>> I'd never use it. I was wrong about that, I love the heated seats now.
>
>We went to WA state to visit and the rental car was a SUV of good size. The cars had a bunch of snow packed on the tires and side. The inside was freezing. That seat gave me quite a shock. It was in that moment of intense pain that the rational for heated seats became clear as crystal to me.

I've found the heated seats are good for my lower back pain sometimes,
a nice bonus.

On Friday, June 13, 2014 11:30:41 AM UTC-10, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
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>
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> >On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:52:04 AM UTC-10, Je�us wrote:
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> >> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:53:15 -1000, dsi1
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> >>
>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> I have heated seats in my Subaru. Thought it was a waste of time and
>
> >>
>
> >> I'd never use it. I was wrong about that, I love the heated seats now.
>
> >
>
> >We went to WA state to visit and the rental car was a SUV of good size. The cars had a bunch of snow packed on the tires and side. The inside was freezing. That seat gave me quite a shock. It was in that moment of intense pain that the rational for heated seats became clear as crystal to me.
>
>
>
> I've found the heated seats are good for my lower back pain sometimes,
>
> a nice bonus.

That's right!

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:59:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:


>The bus company don't care about no kids. They got the contract for the service and will use the cheapest drivers they can find. It's a money/greed thing.

They still have to be mindful about liability though.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:03:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>The group is against driving drunk, not speeding. Actually, they're probably not adverse to driving drunk, they just don't want their kids doing it.

Some people aren't happy unless they can find a reason to be unhappy
about something.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 15:36:18 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:



>
>I certainly have not seen a trend of aggressive driving among school bus
>drivers, especially among the major bus companies. There may be the odd
>one, but generally speaking, they tend to be very cautious drivers.
>City bus driver, OTOH..... think make to Bob Newhart's comedy bit about
>bus drivers and how to make the passengers spin in the aisles.

I see a couple of school buses on the highway in the morning, empty,
heading to the first stop. The speed limit is 65, but I've never seen
a bus going more than 64.5 mph.

I've also seen a few low rent commercial buses that run between NYC
and Boston. Get the hell out of their way! You'd never get me on one
of them.

On Friday, June 13, 2014 11:33:58 AM UTC-10, Je�us wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:03:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >The group is against driving drunk, not speeding. Actually, they're probably not adverse to driving drunk, they just don't want their kids doing it..
>
>
>
> Some people aren't happy unless they can find a reason to be unhappy
>
> about something.

My understanding is that the motto of the TSA is "We're not happy until you're not happy." ;-)

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:30:17 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Friday, June 13, 2014 11:17:45 AM UTC-10, Je�us wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:55:47 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> wrote:
>>
>> >My brother-in-law used to drive with a medium sized dog who liked to lay down in the driver's footwell. That blows my mind, man.
>>
>> Egads. That ain't good.
>
>He was a wheelchair case and used hand operated controls.

Ohhh.... well, that quite a bit different! No foot pedals...

>Still, he had to put his legs somewhere. Maybe he stuck them on the dash. He was a wild rover and would get in the car with his dog Tex and they would disappear for a while.

Good on him

>That guy must have loved to drive around and you'd never know where he'd end up. It must have been hard for him stuck in his chair in his small cottage.
>His long suffering wife was the exact opposite and I suspect that these trips were like vacation days for her.

Probably

"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:46:13 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
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>> ...
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>> > On 6/12/2014 10:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>> >>
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>> >>
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>> >> "dsi1" > wrote in message
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>> >> ...
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>> >>> On 6/12/2014 10:24 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
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>> >>>> On 6/12/2014 2:08 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
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>> >>>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>>>> They'd ban stick shifts, too, if that was the problem.
>>
>> >>>>>
>>
>> >>>>> Not nearly the same thing... once learned driving stick is like
>> >>>>> riding
>>
>> >>>>> a bicycle or swimming, requires no more consious thought than
>>
>> >>>>> breathing... takes more consious thought to urinate than drive
>> >>>>> stick.
>>
>> >>>>> You obviously don't drive stick.
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>> SIGH.
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>> I can drive a stick better than an automatic. I never did
>>
>> >>>> get used to an automatic, and it's no fun to drive.
>>
>> >>>>
>>
>> >>>> nancy
>>
>> >>>
>>
>> >>> The experience you get depends a lot on the car and engine. My VW
>>
>> >>> Scirocco
>>
>> >>> with 4 speed was just wonderful. The Subaru with a 5 speed I used to
>>
>> >>> have
>>
>> >>> was the most unpleasant car to drive. I recently test drove a small
>>
>> >>> Suzuki
>>
>> >>> automobile with a standard. My left leg started cramping up half way
>> >>> on
>>
>> >>> the drive. These days, the most important consideration for me is an
>> >>> AC
>>
>> >>> that works. That's all I care about! :-)
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Cramp in your leg, because of the clutch? I had that problem when I
>>
>> >> started to drive my manual car. I had to put the seat further back or
>> >> I
>>
>> >> got cramp. It a bit too far back for me and I don't get the clutch
>>
>> >> fully depressed which can cause a bit of a problem. Is that what you
>>
>> >> meant?
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I have a left leg that's a little "funny." You can call me a gimp - I
>>
>> > don't mind.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why in the world would I call you names because you have a bad leg?????
>> If
>>
>> you expect that you are talking to the wrong person
>>
>>
>>
>> To tell you the truth, I shouldn't be able to drive a
>>
>> > standard with my leg. Somehow I do it and I'm not even sure how I'm
>> > able
>>
>> > to. Anyway, my leg cramped up at the thigh. I agree with your
>> > analysis - I
>>
>> > may have had the seat a little too far forward. That car was too damn
>>
>> > small!
>>
>>
>>
>> Aye, does that to me too. I have long legs and soon get cramped up in
>> too
>>
>> small a space.
>>
>
> I'm with you there. Some cars have footwells that actually feel like
> really narrow wells. My brother-in-law used to drive with a medium sized
> dog who liked to lay down in the driver's footwell. That blows my mind,
> man.

It would blow mine too!


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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:52:04 AM UTC-10, Je�us wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:53:15 -1000, dsi1
>>>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I have heated seats in my Subaru. Thought it was a waste of time and
>>>
>>> I'd never use it. I was wrong about that, I love the heated seats now.
>>
>>We went to WA state to visit and the rental car was a SUV of good size.
>>The cars had a bunch of snow packed on the tires and side. The inside was
>>freezing. That seat gave me quite a shock. It was in that moment of
>>intense pain that the rational for heated seats became clear as crystal to
>>me.
>
> I've found the heated seats are good for my lower back pain sometimes,
> a nice bonus.

ahh you too huh? I don't have heated seats though but a wee back cushion
helps.

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On 2014-06-13 5:30 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>>
>>> My brother-in-law used to drive with a medium sized dog who liked
>>> to lay down in the driver's footwell. That blows my mind, man.
>>
>>
>>
>> Egads. That ain't good.
>
> He was a wheelchair case and used hand operated controls. Still, he
> had to put his legs somewhere.

I guess that explains why he didn't kick the dog out of the way.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:17:29 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2014-06-12 11:49 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I saw a "Baby on Board" sticker on a car the other day. The goofball
>>
>> > appeared out of nowhere and cut into my lane. I could hardly believe
>> > it.
>>
>> > After a while, it struck me as being pretty funny.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> That's like the woman with the MADD sticker on the back of her brown
>>
>> Mercedes who I used to see flying down our road at more than twice the
>>
>> speed limit.
>
> The group is against driving drunk, not speeding. Actually, they're
> probably not adverse to driving drunk, they just don't want their kids
> doing it.

---

I got a phone call from someone purported to be from MADD. They began
harassing me when I said I wasn't interested in giving them money. As in,
do you want to SUPPORT drunk driving? I was like...uh...no. I don't drink.
But my giving you money isn't going to solve anything either! So...

"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:41:30 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > On 6/12/2014 4:41 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> My bro has the heated seats. I couldn't stand them. Of course on
>> >> times
>>
>> >> I was in there, our temps were somewhere around 50-60 so not all that
>>
>> >> cold. And I don't think our weather ever gets to zero. Many winters
>> >> we
>>
>> >> only have a few days of freezing weather.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I had heated seats in my Sonata. There's not much use for this feature
>>
>> > where I live but it does afford one the opportunity to make your
>> > passenger
>>
>> > squirm when his/her butt starts feeling all hot and bothered. Mostly,
>>
>> > people think it's themselves that's heating up, not the seat. It's an
>>
>> > excellent prank if you live in the tropics.
>>
>>
>>
>> That's what I was doing all right. Squirming! I don't even turn the
>> heat
>>
>> on in my car much. Maybe at night if it is really cold. But during the
>> day
>>
>> if the sun is out, that in and of itself can warm things up enough.
>
> It is a most unnatural feeling alright. :-)

Well my mom keeps telling me that I am having hot flashes due to my age.
Actually I had the opposite. Cold flashes! When I was having those I
likely would have wanted a hot seat but... I am no longer having the hot
flashes. That day though, I was convinced that I was having one. In my
butt!

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> I had heated seats in my Sonata. There's not much use for this feature
>> where I live but it does afford one the opportunity to make your
>> passenger squirm when his/her butt starts feeling all hot and bothered.
>> Mostly, people think it's themselves that's heating up, not the seat.
>> It's an excellent prank if you live in the tropics.
>
> The first time I drove a car with heated seats, I had never even heard
> about them. I started up the car and by the time I got out of my
> neighborhood, I could feel something hot down there. My first thought
> was, "Oh great...what's wrong with my butt." ;-)

I had heard of them but didn't really know how they worked.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On Friday, June 13, 2014 1:26:34 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I had heated seats in my Sonata. There's not much use for this feature
>>
>> > where I live but it does afford one the opportunity to make your
>>
>> > passenger squirm when his/her butt starts feeling all hot and bothered.
>>
>> > Mostly, people think it's themselves that's heating up, not the seat.
>>
>> > It's an excellent prank if you live in the tropics.
>>
>>
>>
>> The first time I drove a car with heated seats, I had never even heard
>>
>> about them. I started up the car and by the time I got out of my
>>
>> neighborhood, I could feel something hot down there. My first thought
>>
>> was, "Oh great...what's wrong with my butt." ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> G.
>
> Let's face it, feeling something warm "down there" is usually not a good
> sign.

Especially when it's wet!

"dsi1" > wrote in message
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On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:52:04 AM UTC-10, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:53:15 -1000, dsi1
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >I had heated seats in my Sonata. There's not much use for this feature
>
> >where I live but it does afford one the opportunity to make your
>
> >passenger squirm when his/her butt starts feeling all hot and bothered.
>
> >Mostly, people think it's themselves that's heating up, not the seat.
>
> >It's an excellent prank if you live in the tropics.
>
>
>
> I have heated seats in my Subaru. Thought it was a waste of time and
>
> I'd never use it. I was wrong about that, I love the heated seats now.

We went to WA state to visit and the rental car was a SUV of good size. The
cars had a bunch of snow packed on the tires and side. The inside was
freezing. That seat gave me quite a shock. It was in that moment of intense
pain that the rational for heated seats became clear as crystal to me.

That was about 2 years ago during Thanksgiving and everybody was freaking
because there was snow on the road. This is the locals I'm talking about.
You'd think they would be used to a little snow on the roads.

---

Many years we get no snow at all. But the problem comes when we do get it
because... It is hilly here and... Up until now, they refused to use any
salt or chemicals to melt the ice. And we do get ice because the temps.
don't stay so cold so during the day, the snow melts. But come sundown, it
freezes up and ices over. The worst of it being black ice. That's super
thin ice that you can't usually see. They said the chemicals would get in
the water and harm the fish. We also only plow some of the main roads. We
just don't have enough equipment.

Well... All that changed during the last bad snowstorms that we had. That
was a few years ago. The year that we had the rat die in the wall. We were
snowed in for a week. Then had one day where we could fairly easily get
out. But not even for 24 hours. We went out for lunch, bought groceries
then the snow started again before we got everything in the house. Snowed
in again for a week. Our exterminator quit answering the phone. They
couldn't get into their office much less out to our house.

There is a viral video somewhere on Youtube of a street somewhat near here.
Shows car after car being unable to stop going down a hill and a huge
pileup. That street is one of two that we would have to take to get home
from say...where my mom lives. Neither street is good during snow. Both
are quite hilly and the other one is very winding and tree covered. So
probably even worse. This one just has much steeper hills.

Also viral videos of various streets in Seattle. Anyway... Officials
finally relented and said they would use the chemicals if this happened
again. Entire cities were crippled. Few people could go to work and so
many cars were damaged, there were no rental cars available and repairs
shops were backed up for weeks.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 16:06:44 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>"Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>> I had heated seats in my Sonata. There's not much use for this feature
>>> where I live but it does afford one the opportunity to make your
>>> passenger squirm when his/her butt starts feeling all hot and bothered.
>>> Mostly, people think it's themselves that's heating up, not the seat.
>>> It's an excellent prank if you live in the tropics.
>>
>> The first time I drove a car with heated seats, I had never even heard
>> about them. I started up the car and by the time I got out of my
>> neighborhood, I could feel something hot down there. My first thought
>> was, "Oh great...what's wrong with my butt." ;-)
>
>I had heard of them but didn't really know how they worked.

So you didn't/don't know how they work. And the relevence to Gary's
comments would be...?

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 23:37:40 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:52:04 AM UTC-10, Je�us wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:53:15 -1000, dsi1
>>>>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have heated seats in my Subaru. Thought it was a waste of time and
>>>>
>>>> I'd never use it. I was wrong about that, I love the heated seats now.
>>>
>>>We went to WA state to visit and the rental car was a SUV of good size.
>>>The cars had a bunch of snow packed on the tires and side. The inside was
>>>freezing. That seat gave me quite a shock. It was in that moment of
>>>intense pain that the rational for heated seats became clear as crystal to
>>>me.
>>
>> I've found the heated seats are good for my lower back pain sometimes,
>> a nice bonus.
>
>ahh you too huh? I don't have heated seats though but a wee back cushion
>helps.

Yeah. I should probably get one of those myself. I need to change the
seat in my Hilux too, it's worn out and doesnt support properly. It
definitely doesnt agree with my lower back.

If you ever get to try some heated seats, do so as it might really
help you, especially on cold days.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:40:24 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Friday, June 13, 2014 11:33:58 AM UTC-10, Je�us wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:03:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>
>> wrote:
>
>> >The group is against driving drunk, not speeding. Actually, they're probably not adverse to driving drunk, they just don't want their kids doing it.
>>
>> Some people aren't happy unless they can find a reason to be unhappy
>>
>> about something.
>
>My understanding is that the motto of the TSA is "We're not happy until you're not happy." ;-)

The public servant's creed

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 23:37:40 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:13:44 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:52:04 AM UTC-10, Je�us wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:53:15 -1000, dsi1
>>>>>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have heated seats in my Subaru. Thought it was a waste of time and
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd never use it. I was wrong about that, I love the heated seats now.
>>>>
>>>>We went to WA state to visit and the rental car was a SUV of good size.
>>>>The cars had a bunch of snow packed on the tires and side. The inside
>>>>was
>>>>freezing. That seat gave me quite a shock. It was in that moment of
>>>>intense pain that the rational for heated seats became clear as crystal
>>>>to
>>>>me.
>>>
>>> I've found the heated seats are good for my lower back pain sometimes,
>>> a nice bonus.
>>
>>ahh you too huh? I don't have heated seats though but a wee back cushion
>>helps.
>
> Yeah. I should probably get one of those myself. I need to change the
> seat in my Hilux too, it's worn out and doesnt support properly. It
> definitely doesnt agree with my lower back.
>
> If you ever get to try some heated seats, do so as it might really
> help you, especially on cold days.

If I ever have a problem with cold seats, I will harken to your words ;-)

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On Monday, June 9, 2014 6:09:24 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 06:10:17 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 08 Jun 2014 12:03:06 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>On Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:50:20 -0400, James Silverton
>
> > wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> My household is usually just one so those family stick figures aren't
>
> >>> really appropriate. I've not seen them on sale and wonder where people
>
> >>> get them?
>
> >>
>
> >>They are decals.
>
> >>http://www.vinyldisorder.com/families.html
>
> >>http://www.fullintensitygrafx.com/family_decals.php
>
> >>http://www.familystickers.com/custom...FU5afgod2WIA1Q
>
> >
>
> >Guess I'm the proverbial stick in the mud. No way am I putting decals
>
> >on my car. Or bumper stickers or anything else.
>
>
>
> I'll join you in the mud ! Who cares whether the people ahead of you
>
> have two kids, ninety kids, five dogs, three cats. I have started
>
> to see some pushback stickers now, one the other day indicated no kids
>
> and no desire to have any

Here's a good one:

YOUR FELLOW MOTORISTS DO NOT CARE
HOW YOUR KID IS DOING IN GRADE SCHOOL

--Bryan

Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> YOUR FELLOW MOTORISTS DO NOT CARE
> HOW YOUR KID IS DOING IN GRADE SCHOOL

Back when my daughter was in elementary school, she always got good
grades and every time a report card came out, she also got one of
those bumper stickers that said,
"I'm The Proud Parent Of An Honor Roll Student."

Remember those? Well I was always proud of her but those stickers
wanted to make me gag and I saw them on so many cars.

This is what I did.... I took a single-edge razor blade and cut one or
two of those stickers apart. I made a smaller rectangular bumper
sticker that said, "I'm The Parent" This is what I put on my back
bumper and it stayed there for years. It was still on there when I
finally sold the van (to a junk yard for $50) many years later. heheh

G.

On 6/13/2014 6:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Jeßus" > wrote in message

>> I've found the heated seats are good for my lower back pain sometimes,
>> a nice bonus.
>
> ahh you too huh? I don't have heated seats though but a wee back cushion
> helps.
>

I had a physical therapist who showed me how to roll up a towel and
place it where your lumbar meets the back of your seat, just above your
butt. That kind of support was very helpful for my back on longish drives.

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Cheryl

On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:14:13 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 6/13/2014 6:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>
>>> I've found the heated seats are good for my lower back pain sometimes,
>>> a nice bonus.
>>
>> ahh you too huh? I don't have heated seats though but a wee back cushion
>> helps.
>
>I had a physical therapist who showed me how to roll up a towel and
>place it where your lumbar meets the back of your seat, just above your
>butt. That kind of support was very helpful for my back on longish drives.

That's a very good idea and I should start doing that myself, thanks.
My back has been right on the edge of an 'episode' this past week...
sigh. Had to take a painkiller this morning to keep me sane(er).

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 6/13/2014 6:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>
>>> I've found the heated seats are good for my lower back pain sometimes,
>>> a nice bonus.
>>
>> ahh you too huh? I don't have heated seats though but a wee back
>> cushion
>> helps.
>>
>
> I had a physical therapist who showed me how to roll up a towel and place
> it where your lumbar meets the back of your seat, just above your butt.
> That kind of support was very helpful for my back on longish drives.

Yes That works the same.


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"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:14:13 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>>On 6/13/2014 6:37 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>
>>>> I've found the heated seats are good for my lower back pain sometimes,
>>>> a nice bonus.
>>>
>>> ahh you too huh? I don't have heated seats though but a wee back
>>> cushion
>>> helps.
>>
>>I had a physical therapist who showed me how to roll up a towel and
>>place it where your lumbar meets the back of your seat, just above your
>>butt. That kind of support was very helpful for my back on longish
>>drives.
>
> That's a very good idea and I should start doing that myself, thanks.
> My back has been right on the edge of an 'episode' this past week...
> sigh. Had to take a painkiller this morning to keep me sane(er).

Finding the right support will help a lot!

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On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:46:36 -0300, wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 07:32:39 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:59:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The bus company don't care about no kids. They got the contract for the service and will use the cheapest drivers they can find. It's a money/greed thing.
>>
>>They still have to be mindful about liability though.
>
>Reports done here showed the kids were relatively safe inside the bus
>but could be more at risk belted in if the bus overturned. You would
>then have the situation of the driver having to try and undo 30/40
>belts to get them down.

Yes, good point. I was more concerned with them employing drivers
based on price. In the event of an accident, liability could be an
issue.

On 6/12/2014 4:24 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 6/12/2014 2:08 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> They'd ban stick shifts, too, if that was the problem.
>>
>> Not nearly the same thing... once learned driving stick is like riding
>> a bicycle or swimming, requires no more consious thought than
>> breathing... takes more consious thought to urinate than drive stick.
>> You obviously don't drive stick.
>
> SIGH.
>
> I can drive a stick better than an automatic. I never did
> get used to an automatic, and it's no fun to drive.
>
> nancy

I dislike automatic transmissions. When my car was in the shop a few
years back after some old lady hit it in the Walgreen's parking lot, the
rental car was an automatic. It took me a couple of days to get used to
it. I was glad to get my car back.

Jill

On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 20:55:23 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 6/12/2014 4:24 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 6/12/2014 2:08 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>> They'd ban stick shifts, too, if that was the problem.
>>>
>>> Not nearly the same thing... once learned driving stick is like riding
>>> a bicycle or swimming, requires no more consious thought than
>>> breathing... takes more consious thought to urinate than drive stick.
>>> You obviously don't drive stick.
>>
>> SIGH.
>>
>> I can drive a stick better than an automatic. I never did
>> get used to an automatic, and it's no fun to drive.
>>
>I dislike automatic transmissions. When my car was in the shop a few
>years back after some old lady hit it in the Walgreen's parking lot, the
>rental car was an automatic. It took me a couple of days to get used to
>it. I was glad to get my car back.

Automatics are for steerers, not drivers.

Nobody apart from those with a disability should be able to get a
licence unless you pass the test in a car with a manual box.

On 6/14/2014 8:12 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 20:55:23 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/12/2014 4:24 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 6/12/2014 2:08 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>> They'd ban stick shifts, too, if that was the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Not nearly the same thing... once learned driving stick is like riding
>>>> a bicycle or swimming, requires no more consious thought than
>>>> breathing... takes more consious thought to urinate than drive stick.
>>>> You obviously don't drive stick.
>>>
>>> SIGH.
>>>
>>> I can drive a stick better than an automatic. I never did
>>> get used to an automatic, and it's no fun to drive.
>>>
>> I dislike automatic transmissions. When my car was in the shop a few
>> years back after some old lady hit it in the Walgreen's parking lot, the
>> rental car was an automatic. It took me a couple of days to get used to
>> it. I was glad to get my car back.
>
> Automatics are for steerers, not drivers.
>
> Nobody apart from those with a disability should be able to get a
> licence unless you pass the test in a car with a manual box.

And, change a flat tire, too! Er, barring any physical challenges . . .

Sky

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 20:55:23 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 6/12/2014 4:24 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 6/12/2014 2:08 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>> They'd ban stick shifts, too, if that was the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Not nearly the same thing... once learned driving stick is like riding
>>>> a bicycle or swimming, requires no more consious thought than
>>>> breathing... takes more consious thought to urinate than drive stick.
>>>> You obviously don't drive stick.
>>>
>>> SIGH.
>>>
>>> I can drive a stick better than an automatic. I never did
>>> get used to an automatic, and it's no fun to drive.
>>>
>>I dislike automatic transmissions. When my car was in the shop a few
>>years back after some old lady hit it in the Walgreen's parking lot, the
>>rental car was an automatic. It took me a couple of days to get used to
>>it. I was glad to get my car back.
>
> Automatics are for steerers, not drivers.
>
> Nobody apart from those with a disability should be able to get a
> licence unless you pass the test in a car with a manual box.

I did pass the test with a stick, and you also had to parallel park or you
didn't pass. To this day, I'm a great parallel parker, but the stick shift
is a nightmare in hilly places like San Francisco. I love automatics.

Cheri

On 6/14/2014 9:12 PM, Jeßus wrote:

> Automatics are for steerers, not drivers.
>
> Nobody apart from those with a disability should be able to get a
> licence unless you pass the test in a car with a manual box.
>

Why? Really, aside from getting a rental in other countries there is no
practical reason to learn to drive stick shift. Let's go one better,
before driving a stick shift, you must learn to hitch a team of horses
and drive a carriage.

You will be disappointed to learn that many high performance cars are
now automatics with paddle shifters.

I've owned quite a few cars with stick shift. I can double clutch, I
can shift both up and down without using the clutch. I even know the
shift pattern on a Borgward. So what? I can drive any place in North
America and never have to shift.

Yeah, its fun once in a while but I don't want manual on my daily driver
and I fail to see how most people wold be a better driver just because
they can use a clutch.

Full disclosu I've never saddled a horse.

On 6/14/2014 9:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>


>
> I did pass the test with a stick, and you also had to parallel park or
> you didn't pass. To this day, I'm a great parallel parker, but the stick
> shift is a nightmare in hilly places like San Francisco. I love automatics.
>
> Cheri

Some have a "hill holder" that keeps the brake on when you put the
clutch in. Very handy on a steep incline.

On 6/14/2014 8:55 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/12/2014 4:24 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 6/12/2014 2:08 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>> They'd ban stick shifts, too, if that was the problem.
>>>
>>> Not nearly the same thing... once learned driving stick is like riding
>>> a bicycle or swimming, requires no more consious thought than
>>> breathing... takes more consious thought to urinate than drive stick.
>>> You obviously don't drive stick.
>>
>> SIGH.
>>
>> I can drive a stick better than an automatic. I never did
>> get used to an automatic, and it's no fun to drive.
>>
>> nancy
>
> I dislike automatic transmissions. When my car was in the shop a few
> years back after some old lady hit it in the Walgreen's parking lot, the
> rental car was an automatic. It took me a couple of days to get used to
> it. I was glad to get my car back.

I wonder if the stick waggers have ever had to commute in a crowded
city? I've driven with a stick in Frankfurt, Zurich and Paris and you
can keep it!


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