We will be going to Penzey's this weekend. What all would you recommend, what are your must-haves?

I have the basics, oregano, basil, etc. I have Mural of Flavor, which I highly recommend, and a few other basics.

Since this is BBQ season, I am interested in marinades and rubs.

What do you all suggest?

TIA

Nellie

On Friday, June 13, 2014 6:15:48 PM UTC-7, Nellie wrote:

> We will be going to Penzey's this weekend. What all would you recommend, what are your must-haves?
>
> I have the basics, oregano, basil, etc. I have Mural of Flavor, which I highly recommend, and a few other basics.
>
> Since this is BBQ season, I am interested in marinades and rubs.
>
> What do you all suggest?
>
> TIA
>

We used to mix dried herbs and garlic to make vinaigrette, but now we
use Fox Point seasoning exclusively. It simply tastes great on salad.

It only comes in glass jars, for reasons I have never analyzed to
my satisfaction.

On 6/14/14, 2:46 AM, wrote:
>
> We used to mix dried herbs and garlic to make vinaigrette, but now we
> use Fox Point seasoning exclusively. It simply tastes great on salad.
>
> It only comes in glass jars, for reasons I have never analyzed to
> my satisfaction.

The larger quantities come in bags. I've never tried it, because I
simply won't buy any blend that includes salt -- apart from the cooking
problem, I just feel like I'm being had, in terms of the pricing ripoff.

From Penzeys, I like their Florida Seasoned Pepper,French Four Spice,
Aleppo Pepper, Herbes de Provence, and Sunny Spain (all salt-free).

Their Jerk Chicken/Fish rub is very good, IMO. Ditto their new Berbere
(prei peri) blend.

-- Larry

On Friday, June 13, 2014 11:46:34 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> On Friday, June 13, 2014 6:15:48 PM UTC-7, Nellie wrote:
>
>
>
> > We will be going to Penzey's this weekend. What all would you recommend, what are your must-haves?
>
> >
>
> > I have the basics, oregano, basil, etc. I have Mural of Flavor, which I highly recommend, and a few other basics.
>
> >
>
> > Since this is BBQ season, I am interested in marinades and rubs.
>
> >
>
> > What do you all suggest?
>
> >
>
> > TIA
>
> >
>
>
>
> We used to mix dried herbs and garlic to make vinaigrette, but now we
>
> use Fox Point seasoning exclusively. It simply tastes great on salad.
>
>
>
> It only comes in glass jars, for reasons I have never analyzed to
>
> my satisfaction.

Thanks so much for this recommendation. What you say sounds wonderful so I will smell it and then I'll see if it will make it home for me.

Thanks!
Nellie (used to be Julie P)

On Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:53:16 PM UTC-7, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 6/14/14, 2:46 AM, wrote:
>
> >
>
> > We used to mix dried herbs and garlic to make vinaigrette, but now we
>
> > use Fox Point seasoning exclusively. It simply tastes great on salad.
>
> >
>
> > It only comes in glass jars, for reasons I have never analyzed to
>
> > my satisfaction.
>
>
>
> The larger quantities come in bags. I've never tried it, because I
>
> simply won't buy any blend that includes salt -- apart from the cooking
>
> problem, I just feel like I'm being had, in terms of the pricing ripoff.
>
>
>
> From Penzeys, I like their Florida Seasoned Pepper,French Four Spice,
>
> Aleppo Pepper, Herbes de Provence, and Sunny Spain (all salt-free).
>
>
>
> Their Jerk Chicken/Fish rub is very good, IMO. Ditto their new Berbere
>
> (prei peri) blend.
>
>
>
> -- Larry

Wow, that's some list, Larry! All your recommendations sound soooo good, I'm gonna have a hard time making up my mind. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this.

We will be going there on the way to our Fathers' Day soiree. Usually my head spins when I go in there, but this time I am armed : )

Good point about containing salt.

Nellie (used to be Julie P)

On 6/13/2014 9:15 PM, Nellie wrote:
> We will be going to Penzey's this weekend. What all would you recommend, what are your must-haves?
>
> I have the basics, oregano, basil, etc. I have Mural of Flavor, which I highly recommend, and a few other basics.
>
> Since this is BBQ season, I am interested in marinades and rubs.
>
> What do you all suggest?
>
> TIA
>
> Nellie
>
Adobo seasoning

Jerk seasoning for chicken and pork

Fines Herbes - a salt-free combination of dried chervil, minced parsley,
French tarragon and chopped chives. I like to use this in omelets but
it's also great on chicken or fish

Parisien Bonnes Herbes is good for the same as the Fine Herbes but I
like the latter better

I miss being able to walk into a Penzey's. There was one nearby when I
lived in west Tennessee. The fragrance of the herbs and spices when you
walk in the door - wonderful!

Jill

On 6/15/2014 2:58 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/13/2014 9:15 PM, Nellie wrote:
>> We will be going to Penzey's this weekend. What all would you
>> recommend, what are your must-haves?
>>
>> I have the basics, oregano, basil, etc. I have Mural of Flavor, which
>> I highly recommend, and a few other basics.
>>
>> Since this is BBQ season, I am interested in marinades and rubs.
>>
>> What do you all suggest?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Nellie
>>
> Adobo seasoning
>
> Jerk seasoning for chicken and

FISH. I meant to say fish, not pork. But I'll bet it would work fine
with pork.

>
> Fines Herbes - a salt-free combination of dried chervil, minced parsley,
> French tarragon and chopped chives. I like to use this in omelets but
> it's also great on chicken or fish
>
> Parisien Bonnes Herbes is good for the same as the Fine Herbes but I
> like the latter better
>
Also:
California Seasoned Pepper
Old World Seasoning

None of the things I've recommended contain added salt.

Jill

> I miss being able to walk into a Penzey's. There was one nearby when I
> lived in west Tennessee. The fragrance of the herbs and spices when you
> walk in the door - wonderful!
>
> Jill

On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> Also:
> California Seasoned Pepper

WTF is that?

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 6/15/2014 3:11 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Also:
>> California Seasoned Pepper
>
> WTF is that?
>
Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.

Jill

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Also:
>> California Seasoned Pepper
>
> WTF is that?
>
I have bought that before but it wasn't Penzy's. It's basically black
pepper with bell peppers and garlic.

On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:26:00 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 6/15/2014 3:11 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Also:
> >> California Seasoned Pepper
> >
> > WTF is that?
> >
> Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.
>

What on god's green earth makes that "California"?


--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 6/15/2014 9:32 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:26:00 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/15/2014 3:11 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also:
>>>> California Seasoned Pepper
>>>
>>> WTF is that?
>>>
>> Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.
>>
>
> What on god's green earth makes that "California"?
>
>
Penzey's. What makes their Florida Seasoning "Florida"?

Jill

On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 09:41:20 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 6/15/2014 9:32 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:26:00 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/15/2014 3:11 AM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Also:
> >>>> California Seasoned Pepper
> >>>
> >>> WTF is that?
> >>>
> >> Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.
> >>
> >
> > What on god's green earth makes that "California"?
> >
> >
> Penzey's. What makes their Florida Seasoning "Florida"?
>
You've got me there. I don't usually buy mixed seasonings for the
main reason that I don't use them. I bought some nice sounding ones
at the grocery store a month or so ago. One is simply pepper and
garlic, which are two things I use a lot of and I use them together,
but I never remember to pull the bottle out when I want pepper and
garlic.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 6/15/2014 2:47 AM, Nellie wrote:

>> The larger quantities come in bags. I've never tried it, because I
>>
>> simply won't buy any blend that includes salt -- apart from the cooking
>>
>> problem, I just feel like I'm being had, in terms of the pricing ripoff.
>>


> Good point about containing salt.
>
> Nellie (used to be Julie P)
>

Some have salt for a good reason having nothing to do with price. I mix
many of my spices with salt when making a rub. It helps to get an even
dispersal over the meat. This is especially helpful with strong flavors
on a thin cut of meat.

On 6/15/2014 9:50 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 09:41:20 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/15/2014 9:32 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:26:00 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/15/2014 3:11 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also:
>>>>>> California Seasoned Pepper
>>>>>
>>>>> WTF is that?
>>>>>
>>>> Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What on god's green earth makes that "California"?
>>>
>>>
>> Penzey's. What makes their Florida Seasoning "Florida"?
>>
> You've got me there. I don't usually buy mixed seasonings for the
> main reason that I don't use them. I bought some nice sounding ones
> at the grocery store a month or so ago. One is simply pepper and
> garlic, which are two things I use a lot of and I use them together,
> but I never remember to pull the bottle out when I want pepper and
> garlic.
>
It's not doing you much good then is it? I like salt-free blends for
certain things and Penzey's has a lot of them. I use Mrs. Dash quite a
bit, too.

Jill

On Sunday, June 15, 2014 6:32:21 AM UTC-7, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:26:00 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> > On 6/15/2014 3:11 AM, sf wrote:
>
> > > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
> > > wrote:

> > >> Also
> > >> California Seasoned Pepper

> > > WTF is that?
>

> > Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.
>
>
> What on god's green earth makes that "California"?

Remember, Penzey's is headquartered in Milwaukee. "California," "Florida,"
and "Paris" are all exotic faraway lands to them.

On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 10:31:31 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 6/15/2014 9:50 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 09:41:20 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 6/15/2014 9:32 AM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:26:00 -0400, jmcquown >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 6/15/2014 3:11 AM, sf wrote:
> >>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Also:
> >>>>>> California Seasoned Pepper
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WTF is that?
> >>>>>
> >>>> Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> What on god's green earth makes that "California"?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Penzey's. What makes their Florida Seasoning "Florida"?
> >>
> > You've got me there. I don't usually buy mixed seasonings for the
> > main reason that I don't use them. I bought some nice sounding ones
> > at the grocery store a month or so ago. One is simply pepper and
> > garlic, which are two things I use a lot of and I use them together,
> > but I never remember to pull the bottle out when I want pepper and
> > garlic.
> >
> It's not doing you much good then is it?

Not in the slightest. Now I'm wondering what possessed me to buy
them.

> I like salt-free blends for
> certain things and Penzey's has a lot of them. I use Mrs. Dash quite a
> bit, too.
>

Never developed a taste for Ms. Dash. It has a weird flavor.


--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 08:33:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Sunday, June 15, 2014 6:32:21 AM UTC-7, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:26:00 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 6/15/2014 3:11 AM, sf wrote:
> >
> > > > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >> Also
> > > >> California Seasoned Pepper
>
> > > > WTF is that?
> >
>
> > > Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.
> >
> >
> > What on god's green earth makes that "California"?
>
> Remember, Penzey's is headquartered in Milwaukee. "California," "Florida,"
> and "Paris" are all exotic faraway lands to them.

Silly me.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

sf wrote:
>
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:26:00 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> > On 6/15/2014 3:11 AM, sf wrote:
> > > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Also:
> > >> California Seasoned Pepper
> > >
> > > WTF is that?
> > >
> > Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.
> >
>
> What on god's green earth makes that "California"?

One would think that *YOU* should know, sf.

sf wrote:
>
> I don't usually buy mixed seasonings for the
> main reason that I don't use them.

I don't either. I always thought ppl here were knowledgeable enough to
combine their own spices for seasoning. I can do a fairly good job of
it myself.

G.

On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 13:22:06 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:26:00 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 6/15/2014 3:11 AM, sf wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Also:
> > > >> California Seasoned Pepper
> > > >
> > > > WTF is that?
> > > >
> > > Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.
> > >
> >
> > What on god's green earth makes that "California"?
>
> One would think that *YOU* should know, sf.

Nope. I hate it when they label products so stupidly.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 06:32:21 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:26:00 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>> On 6/15/2014 3:11 AM, sf wrote:
>> > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Also:
>> >> California Seasoned Pepper
>> >
>> > WTF is that?
>> >
>> Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.
>>
>
>What on god's green earth makes that "California"?

Can only guess because CA grows bell pepper, onion, and garlic.
http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penze...calpepper.html

On 6/15/2014 1:26 PM, Gary wrote:
> sf wrote:
>>
>> I don't usually buy mixed seasonings for the
>> main reason that I don't use them.
>
> I don't either. I always thought ppl here were knowledgeable enough to
> combine their own spices for seasoning. I can do a fairly good job of
> it myself.
>
> G.
>
Blends have their place. I don't always have the right combination to
make my own "blends".

Jill

On Sunday, June 15, 2014 6:32:21 AM UTC-7, sf wrote:

>> Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.
>
> What on god's green earth makes that "California"?

It's just marketing. How would you sell it in your catalogs and
encourage repeat buyers if you didn't give it a name?

-- Larry

I prefer mixing individual spices rather than
buying a mix. Hence my recommendation is
Tellicherry black pepper. It's not easy to find
and has a wonderful flavor.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 6/15/2014 6:03 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On Sunday, June 15, 2014 6:32:21 AM UTC-7, sf wrote:
>
>>> Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.
>>
>> What on god's green earth makes that "California"?
>
> It's just marketing. How would you sell it in your catalogs and
> encourage repeat buyers if you didn't give it a name?
>
> -- Larry
>
>
Good point. I had the pleasure (and I do mean pleasure) of walking
into a Penzey's shop they opened in west Tennessee. Prior to that I
only had the catalog and a few online purchases to give me a clue.

The store smelled absolutely wonderful! I bought a lot of stuff that
day. Went back to class (I was taking classes to renew my insurance
license) after lunch with a bag full of herbs and spices. The people
sitting around me were asking what smells so good? It's not me, it's
Penzey's! LOL

Jill

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

> my recommendation is
> Tellicherry black pepper. It's not easy to find
> and has a wonderful flavor.

Costco sells it.
http://addictedtocostco.com/wp-conte...3/img_4912.jpg

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Monday, June 16, 2014 12:39:03 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
>
> > my recommendation is
> > Tellicherry black pepper. It's not easy to find
> > and has a wonderful flavor.
>
> Costco sells it.
>
But is it as good? Never had it from Costco but I doubt it.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 6/15/2014 8:32 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:26:00 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/15/2014 3:11 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 03:08:09 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also:
>>>> California Seasoned Pepper
>>>
>>> WTF is that?
>>>
>> Tellicherry black pepper, red and green bell pepper, onion, garlic.
>>
>
> What on god's green earth makes that "California"?
>
>

Bill Penzey's parents were Ukranian immigrants who owned a spice shop
in Milwaukee. They named a number of their seasoning mixes after
various regions in the US.

On 6/16/2014 12:02 PM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Monday, June 16, 2014 12:39:03 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
>>
>>> my recommendation is
>>> Tellicherry black pepper. It's not easy to find

Actually, it's practically everywhere, including Amazon.

>>> and has a wonderful flavor.
>>
>> Costco sells it.
>>
> But is it as good? Never had it from Costco but I doubt it.

Says it is hand harvested, product of India, packed in the USA. Odds
are the distributor buys from the same Indian wholesalers as do the
other US spice retailers. They might buy a smaller size berry, which
some people might care about. I'll have to stick a few of my Spice
House Tellicherry peppercorns in my pocket and do a visual comparison
to the Costco ones next time I'm there.

Speaking of spice quality, I visited a Mennonite bulk food store in
rural Wisconsin after getting a number of enthusiastic recommendations
about it from friends. I bought a few small packages of various herbs
and spices from them to try. Brought them home, opened the packages,
sniffed deeply and smelled...nothing. Really, nothing. Set them aside
and went to sort out my refill packages from the Spice House. Found a
package of bay leaves from them dated 2008 (oops, my bad). Opened and
sniffed. They were pungent. So, naturally, was the California sweet
basil I bought a few weeks ago. I then compared them to the stuff from
the bulk food store. End result: every herb and spice I bought from
the bulk food store went into the trash. The prices at the bulk food
store were higher than what the Spice House charged, too. Oh, well --
lesson learned.

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:02:42 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

> On Monday, June 16, 2014 12:39:03 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> >
> > > my recommendation is
> > > Tellicherry black pepper. It's not easy to find
> > > and has a wonderful flavor.
> >
> > Costco sells it.
> >
> But is it as good? Never had it from Costco but I doubt it.
>
The only way for you to find out is to buy it.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:54:25 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
wrote:

> The prices at the bulk food
> store were higher than what the Spice House charged, too. Oh, well --
> lesson learned.

Did you factor in shipping?

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:29:07 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
wrote:

> Bill Penzey's parents were Ukranian immigrants who owned a spice shop
> in Milwaukee. They named a number of their seasoning mixes after
> various regions in the US.

Sounds like they just stuck the same of a state or region on something
or other and let the chips fall where they may.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Monday, June 16, 2014 1:54:25 PM UTC-4, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
> On 6/16/2014 12:02 PM, Helpful person wrote:
> > On Monday, June 16, 2014 12:39:03 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
>
> >>> my recommendation is
> >>> Tellicherry black pepper. It's not easy to find
>
> Actually, it's practically everywhere, including Amazon.
>
> >>> and has a wonderful flavor.
> >>
> >> Costco sells it.
> >>
> > But is it as good? Never had it from Costco but I doubt it.

> Says it is hand harvested, product of India, packed in the USA. Odds
> are the distributor buys from the same Indian wholesalers as do the
> other US spice retailers. They might buy a smaller size berry, which
> some people might care about. I'll have to stick a few of my Spice
> House Tellicherry peppercorns in my pocket and do a visual comparison
> to the Costco ones next time I'm there.
>
> Speaking of spice quality, I visited a Mennonite bulk food store in
> rural Wisconsin after getting a number of enthusiastic recommendations
> about it from friends. I bought a few small packages of various herbs
> and spices from them to try. Brought them home, opened the packages,
> sniffed deeply and smelled...nothing. Really, nothing. Set them aside
> and went to sort out my refill packages from the Spice House. Found a
> package of bay leaves from them dated 2008 (oops, my bad). Opened and
> sniffed. They were pungent. So, naturally, was the California sweet
> basil I bought a few weeks ago. I then compared them to the stuff from
> the bulk food store. End result: every herb and spice I bought from
> the bulk food store went into the trash. The prices at the bulk food
> store were higher than what the Spice House charged, too. Oh, well --
> lesson learned.

As you've just described the only good way to compare
quality is to compare products side to side. My limited
experience of Costco product comparison tells me that they
do not have the top quality. This is true for King Crab
legs, steaks and shrimp (as of 4 years ago). I expect it
to be the same for spices.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:02:42 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

>On Monday, June 16, 2014 12:39:03 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
>>
>> > my recommendation is
>> > Tellicherry black pepper. It's not easy to find
>> > and has a wonderful flavor.
>>
>> Costco sells it.
>>
>But is it as good? Never had it from Costco but I doubt it.

Spices at common markets are a crap shoot... could be very old and
usually are. I bought a 12 oz jar of peppercorns at BJs last year,
they were obviously old, Penzeys are fresh... can easily discern the
difference unless one has TIAD. The Costco web siite won't show any
peppercorns let alone Tellicherry... I've never seen Tellicherry
peppercorns at any stupidmarket... they just sell plain old generic.

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:19:56 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:29:07 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
>wrote:
>
>> Bill Penzey's parents were Ukranian immigrants who owned a spice shop
>> in Milwaukee. They named a number of their seasoning mixes after
>> various regions in the US.
>
>Sounds like they just stuck the same of a state or region on something
>or other and let the chips fall where they may.

Sounds like where marketing is concerned sf is the typical brainless
FFA (Frisco Fat Arse). WTF do Impalas have to do with Chevys? And
I've never heard of a jaguar drinking ethyl.

On 6/16/2014 1:17 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:54:25 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
> wrote:
>
>> The prices at the bulk food
>> store were higher than what the Spice House charged, too. Oh, well --
>> lesson learned.
>
> Did you factor in shipping?
>

I never pay shipping. They run free shipping specials many times a year.

On 6/16/2014 2:58 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:02:42 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> > wrote:
>
>> On Monday, June 16, 2014 12:39:03 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
>>>
>>>> my recommendation is
>>>> Tellicherry black pepper. It's not easy to find
>>>> and has a wonderful flavor.
>>>
>>> Costco sells it.
>>>
>> But is it as good? Never had it from Costco but I doubt it.
>
> Spices at common markets are a crap shoot... could be very old and
> usually are. I bought a 12 oz jar of peppercorns at BJs last year,
> they were obviously old, Penzeys are fresh... can easily discern the
> difference unless one has TIAD.

"Fresher" is more accurate. You aren't going to get fresh spices
unless you buy the current crop in the country of origin.

The Costco web siite won't show any
> peppercorns let alone Tellicherry... I've never seen Tellicherry
> peppercorns at any stupidmarket... they just sell plain old generic.
>

You've never seen these?

http://www.mccormick.com/Gourmet/Spi...ns-Tellicherry

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Spice-Isla....4-oz/10449093

http://www.target.com/p/archer-farms...z/-/A-14767917

Tellicherry peppercorns are ubiquitous.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:17:45 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
wrote:

> On 6/16/2014 2:58 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:02:42 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Monday, June 16, 2014 12:39:03 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> >>>
> >>>> my recommendation is
> >>>> Tellicherry black pepper. It's not easy to find
> >>>> and has a wonderful flavor.
> >>>
> >>> Costco sells it.
> >>>
> >> But is it as good? Never had it from Costco but I doubt it.

Why would I care if some pepper is "as good"? I can buy "good"
without going crazy about Penzy's. Costco has great turnover, so it's
fresh.
> >
> > Spices at common markets are a crap shoot... could be very old and
> > usually are. I bought a 12 oz jar of peppercorns at BJs last year,
> > they were obviously old, Penzeys are fresh... can easily discern the
> > difference unless one has TIAD.

The one with TIAD is you. You're a Walmart shopper. I have used
Penzy's and frankly, I was not impressed. Maybe Penzy's is fresher
than what you can find in Backwater NY, but they are nothing special
when compared to what can be purchased in stores with decent turnover.
>
> "Fresher" is more accurate. You aren't going to get fresh spices
> unless you buy the current crop in the country of origin.
>
> The Costco web siite won't show any
> > peppercorns let alone Tellicherry... I've never seen Tellicherry
> > peppercorns at any stupidmarket... they just sell plain old generic.
> >
>
> You've never seen these?
>
> http://www.mccormick.com/Gourmet/Spi...ns-Tellicherry
>
> http://www.walmart.com/ip/Spice-Isla....4-oz/10449093
>
> http://www.target.com/p/archer-farms...z/-/A-14767917
>
> Tellicherry peppercorns are ubiquitous

They certainly are! I don't care if Kirkland tellicherry isn't on the
Costco website, I buy them at the brick & mortar store. If anyone
really wants to buy the Kirkland brand, then that person can order it
from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Kirkland-Signa.../dp/B00631TI2Q
I've never figured out what was so la-tee-dash about "tellicherry".
The name? What gives pepper zing is the size of the crack when it's
ground.


--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On 6/17/2014 2:04 PM, sf wrote:

>
> They certainly are! I don't care if Kirkland tellicherry isn't on the
> Costco website, I buy them at the brick & mortar store. If anyone
> really wants to buy the Kirkland brand, then that person can order it
> from Amazon.
> http://www.amazon.com/Kirkland-Signa.../dp/B00631TI2Q
> I've never figured out what was so la-tee-dash about "tellicherry".
> The name? What gives pepper zing is the size of the crack when it's
> ground.
>
>

Tellicherry is a coastal town in the Malabar region of India. They grow
peppers there and tout them as better than other areas. Persoanlly, I
can't tell the difference.

It is a plant part. Crops vary from farm to farm. The Tellicherry
people were smart enough to popularize the name, just as Vidalia onions.
Grow the same onion on the other side of the country road and it is
not a Vidalia onion, but may in fact happen to be a little better.

Note the term "tightly controlled" in this review.
http://www.seriouseats.com/2012/07/t...varieties.html
Malabar peppercorns hail from the same growing region as Tellicherry,
but aren't as tightly controlled. Like the Tellicherry, we noticed
complex but balanced aromas with accents of citrus, resin, and berries,
though it didn't share the Tellicherry's intense sweetness. Instead it
had a mildly dark, slightly bitter flavor. Another good all-purpose
pepper, with warm, spiced notes for more dark, savory dishes like braises