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On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 16:46:04 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote: > > > "sf" > wrote in message > ... > > >> I run Kaspersky. Do I need Malwarebytes? Would they conflict? > > > > They are talking about a toolbar. > > http://www.safebro.com/tag/swagbucks-toolbar-spyware > > I am talking about Malwarebyes. Here's a discussion on the subject. Decide for yourself. http://forum.kaspersky.com/lofiversi...p/t149610.html -- I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 16:46:04 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >> "sf" > wrote in message >> ... >> >> >> I run Kaspersky. Do I need Malwarebytes? Would they conflict? >> > >> > They are talking about a toolbar. >> > http://www.safebro.com/tag/swagbucks-toolbar-spyware >> >> I am talking about Malwarebyes. > > Here's a discussion on the subject. Decide for yourself. > http://forum.kaspersky.com/lofiversi...p/t149610.html Why is it so hard for you to understand when I say *I* am doing something? That doesn't mean what everyone is is talking about, it means what *I* am talking about! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 6/16/2014 5:57 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:01:59 -0400, Nancy Young > > wrote: > >> All I did was click on a website that was going to advise me >> on the bloom time for Shasta Daisies. Blammo. > > Husband picked up a bad one when he was researching new cars. I think > someone here mentioned a long time ago that malware can be installed > by the rotating ads that pay for the websites we visit. The site is > innocent of installing the malware and it's next to impossible for > them to police the situation. > Yep. This is why you really need to install ad-blocking software on your browser. The heck with the philosophical arguments about websites earning money through ad clicks, you have to look out for yourself. |
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On 6/16/2014 4:47 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message > ... >> On 6/15/2014 5:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 23:39:52 -0700, Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>>> In reality, she probably didn't think to look for a "location" >>>>>> link. You >>>>>> don't have to speak Spanish to figure out which flag your >>>>>> country is >>>>>> associated with. >>>>> >>>>> Actually I did. The first time this happened, I had no clue what >>>>> the mx >>>>> meant. It wasn't taking me to any meaningful screen. But >>>>> something...my >>>>> AV? Not sure... Something stopped me from doing anything on that >>>>> screen >>>>> but closing it. Told me that I thought I was going to costco.com >>>>> but it was >>>>> trying to take me to costco.com.mx. Had I clicked through, which >>>>> it warned >>>>> me not to do, I likely would have going to that site. >>>>> >>>>> The second time, I closed the browser and typing in costco.com, or >>>>> typing >>>>> "Costco" into the search engine, only brought me to the Mexican >>>>> site. The >>>>> URL showing did not have the .mx on it at all. >>>> >>>> It's that damned Swagbucks spyware that you use. That's what those >>>> things do - redirect your browser to sites IT wants to take you. >>>> Stop >>>> crying about it and suck it up. You won't get any sympathy here. >>> >>> I don't think it is. Swagbucks is not spyware. >> >> You idiot, you don't even know what spyware is. Swagbucks IS spyware >> - you give them access to your personal information in exchange for >> the opportunity to collect "freebies" - which aren't free, you're >> paying for them by giving up your privacy. >> > I know they are tracking some things and I have agreed to that. > >> But that's not the problem, because you voluntarily chose to do >> that. The problem is, Swagbucks toolbar can and often is a delivery >> device for a variety of malicious software. They admit it >> themselves. IT techs know it, too. As do the malware detection and >> removal companies, whose software is designed to flag this as a >> Potentially Unwanted Product. The toolbar is made by Conduit, and >> anybody who knows computers will tell you they don't allow Conduit >> products on their pcs because they are malware delivery devices. > > Please give me a site for this. I did look this up last night using > both Google and Bing. The only things I found where people were > saying this were blogs or places where they want you to buy their > software to remove stuff from your computer. > > My brother is a programmer and he knows that I use it. He did not > tell me not to use it. >> >> But you will insist it's safe, it's reputable - hey, you're earning >> SwagBucks! even while your computer slows down because it is >> becoming ever more infested with malware delivered by that toolbar. >> Malware that redirects you to different websites, malware that >> changes your DNS settings, malware that can do anything, including >> collecting your personal information and sending it to unknown third >> parties. Because you don't know shit about computers. > > I didn't insist any of this stuff. I just haven't seen anything that > is clear cut proof to me that it is bad. And you are correct, I don't > know much about computers. > > I do not believe in any way, shape or form that the redirect came from > them. I believe that it came from Costco. I did write to them. I > have not heard anything back. > > My DNS settings are not changed. I did see on several websites that > made the claim that it will hijack your browser to them. It has not > done that to me and in fact, I have had to put it on there myself. >> >> Who knows - maybe some day you'll earn more in SwagBucks than you >> pay out to have your computer repaired! > > Show me some proof of your claims. There's no point posting it, because you wouldn't understand it. It would be like explaining algebra to an armadillo. |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 08:14:33 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >> "Roy" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On Monday, June 16, 2014 3:49:03 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Roy" > wrote in message >> >> >> >> ... >> >> >> >> On Monday, June 16, 2014 12:13:56 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> >> >> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > ... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 22:12:25 -0700, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> ... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>> On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:05:36 -0700, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>> ... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>>>> ... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>>>>> It's that damned Swagbucks spyware that you use. That's >> >> > >>>>>>> what >> >> >> >> > >>>>>>> those >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>>>>> things do - redirect your browser to sites IT wants to take >> >> > >>>>>>> you. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>>>>> Stop >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>>>>> crying about it and suck it up. You won't get any sympathy >> >> > >>>>>>> here. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>>>> I don't think it is. Swagbucks is not spyware. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>>> It is most definitely spyware. Because they reward you for >> >> > >>>>> letting >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>>> them >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>>> gather information on you doesn't make it any less a form of >> >> >> >> > >>>>> malware. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>>> Perhaps but I don't think it reroutes. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>> It most certainly does. It's your own fault. Now go cry >> >> > >>> someplace >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >>> else. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> And you know this...how? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > A simple web search will bring up complaints about swagbucks and >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > redirects. Now stop questioning me and **** off. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Okay I will look again. But I looked before and found no complaints >> >> > about >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > it. Not gonna **** off though. ![]() ![]() ![]() >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Julie...Sqwertz IS right and YOU are wrong. You can deny all you want >> >> but >> >> >> >> your software IS faulty and flawed. Stop being so damned stubborn. You >> >> are >> >> >> >> asking for trouble every time you venture forth on the InterNet. Use a >> >> >> >> proper browser and quit being so adamant that you are right. >> >> >> >> --- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> So you're telling me that IE and Chrome are not proper browsers? >> > >> > Depends on what tool bars and extensions are added by malware. Conduit >> > stuff is always trouble. >> > >> > Install Malwarebytes, run it and see what malware it finds. Your >> > computer >> > is very likely loaded with crap. All your private information is free >> > for >> > grabs when you use Conduit type malware. >> >> I run Kaspersky. Do I need Malwarebytes? Would they conflict? > > They are talking about a toolbar. > http://www.safebro.com/tag/swagbucks-toolbar-spyware You don't have to use the toolbar to use Swagbucks. I can use it from my Ipad. No toolbar. |
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![]() "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message ... > On 6/16/2014 4:47 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 6/15/2014 5:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 23:39:52 -0700, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>>> In reality, she probably didn't think to look for a "location" >>>>>>> link. You >>>>>>> don't have to speak Spanish to figure out which flag your >>>>>>> country is >>>>>>> associated with. >>>>>> >>>>>> Actually I did. The first time this happened, I had no clue what >>>>>> the mx >>>>>> meant. It wasn't taking me to any meaningful screen. But >>>>>> something...my >>>>>> AV? Not sure... Something stopped me from doing anything on that >>>>>> screen >>>>>> but closing it. Told me that I thought I was going to costco.com >>>>>> but it was >>>>>> trying to take me to costco.com.mx. Had I clicked through, which >>>>>> it warned >>>>>> me not to do, I likely would have going to that site. >>>>>> >>>>>> The second time, I closed the browser and typing in costco.com, or >>>>>> typing >>>>>> "Costco" into the search engine, only brought me to the Mexican >>>>>> site. The >>>>>> URL showing did not have the .mx on it at all. >>>>> >>>>> It's that damned Swagbucks spyware that you use. That's what those >>>>> things do - redirect your browser to sites IT wants to take you. >>>>> Stop >>>>> crying about it and suck it up. You won't get any sympathy here. >>>> >>>> I don't think it is. Swagbucks is not spyware. >>> >>> You idiot, you don't even know what spyware is. Swagbucks IS spyware >>> - you give them access to your personal information in exchange for >>> the opportunity to collect "freebies" - which aren't free, you're >>> paying for them by giving up your privacy. >>> >> I know they are tracking some things and I have agreed to that. >> >>> But that's not the problem, because you voluntarily chose to do >>> that. The problem is, Swagbucks toolbar can and often is a delivery >>> device for a variety of malicious software. They admit it >>> themselves. IT techs know it, too. As do the malware detection and >>> removal companies, whose software is designed to flag this as a >>> Potentially Unwanted Product. The toolbar is made by Conduit, and >>> anybody who knows computers will tell you they don't allow Conduit >>> products on their pcs because they are malware delivery devices. >> >> Please give me a site for this. I did look this up last night using >> both Google and Bing. The only things I found where people were >> saying this were blogs or places where they want you to buy their >> software to remove stuff from your computer. >> >> My brother is a programmer and he knows that I use it. He did not >> tell me not to use it. >>> >>> But you will insist it's safe, it's reputable - hey, you're earning >>> SwagBucks! even while your computer slows down because it is >>> becoming ever more infested with malware delivered by that toolbar. >>> Malware that redirects you to different websites, malware that >>> changes your DNS settings, malware that can do anything, including >>> collecting your personal information and sending it to unknown third >>> parties. Because you don't know shit about computers. >> >> I didn't insist any of this stuff. I just haven't seen anything that >> is clear cut proof to me that it is bad. And you are correct, I don't >> know much about computers. >> >> I do not believe in any way, shape or form that the redirect came from >> them. I believe that it came from Costco. I did write to them. I >> have not heard anything back. >> >> My DNS settings are not changed. I did see on several websites that >> made the claim that it will hijack your browser to them. It has not >> done that to me and in fact, I have had to put it on there myself. >>> >>> Who knows - maybe some day you'll earn more in SwagBucks than you >>> pay out to have your computer repaired! >> >> Show me some proof of your claims. > > There's no point posting it, because you wouldn't understand it. It would > be like explaining algebra to an armadillo. At least I know Algebra. |
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:43:50 -0500, Moe DeLoughan >
wrote: > On 6/16/2014 5:57 PM, sf wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:01:59 -0400, Nancy Young > > > wrote: > > > >> All I did was click on a website that was going to advise me > >> on the bloom time for Shasta Daisies. Blammo. > > > > Husband picked up a bad one when he was researching new cars. I think > > someone here mentioned a long time ago that malware can be installed > > by the rotating ads that pay for the websites we visit. The site is > > innocent of installing the malware and it's next to impossible for > > them to police the situation. > > > > Yep. This is why you really need to install ad-blocking software on > your browser. The heck with the philosophical arguments about websites > earning money through ad clicks, you have to look out for yourself. Much agreement here and it's installed on every browser. -- I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:43:50 -0500, Moe DeLoughan > > wrote: > >> On 6/16/2014 5:57 PM, sf wrote: >> > On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:01:59 -0400, Nancy Young >> > > wrote: >> > >> >> All I did was click on a website that was going to advise me >> >> on the bloom time for Shasta Daisies. Blammo. >> > >> > Husband picked up a bad one when he was researching new cars. I think >> > someone here mentioned a long time ago that malware can be installed >> > by the rotating ads that pay for the websites we visit. The site is >> > innocent of installing the malware and it's next to impossible for >> > them to police the situation. >> > >> >> Yep. This is why you really need to install ad-blocking software on >> your browser. The heck with the philosophical arguments about websites >> earning money through ad clicks, you have to look out for yourself. > > Much agreement here and it's installed on every browser. > I had one but it wouldn't work with Chrome. |
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:51:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > > "sf" > wrote in message > ... > > On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:43:50 -0500, Moe DeLoughan > > > wrote: > > > >> On 6/16/2014 5:57 PM, sf wrote: > >> > On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:01:59 -0400, Nancy Young > >> > > wrote: > >> > > >> >> All I did was click on a website that was going to advise me > >> >> on the bloom time for Shasta Daisies. Blammo. > >> > > >> > Husband picked up a bad one when he was researching new cars. I think > >> > someone here mentioned a long time ago that malware can be installed > >> > by the rotating ads that pay for the websites we visit. The site is > >> > innocent of installing the malware and it's next to impossible for > >> > them to police the situation. > >> > > >> > >> Yep. This is why you really need to install ad-blocking software on > >> your browser. The heck with the philosophical arguments about websites > >> earning money through ad clicks, you have to look out for yourself. > > > > Much agreement here and it's installed on every browser. > > > I had one but it wouldn't work with Chrome. My ad blocker does. -- I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila |
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![]() "Sqwertz" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:22:51 -0700, Julie Bove wrote: > >> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 6/16/2014 4:47 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>>> "Moe DeLoughan" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On 6/15/2014 5:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 23:39:52 -0700, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In reality, she probably didn't think to look for a "location" >>>>>>>>> link. You >>>>>>>>> don't have to speak Spanish to figure out which flag your >>>>>>>>> country is >>>>>>>>> associated with. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Actually I did. The first time this happened, I had no clue what >>>>>>>> the mx >>>>>>>> meant. It wasn't taking me to any meaningful screen. But >>>>>>>> something...my >>>>>>>> AV? Not sure... Something stopped me from doing anything on that >>>>>>>> screen >>>>>>>> but closing it. Told me that I thought I was going to costco.com >>>>>>>> but it was >>>>>>>> trying to take me to costco.com.mx. Had I clicked through, which >>>>>>>> it warned >>>>>>>> me not to do, I likely would have going to that site. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The second time, I closed the browser and typing in costco.com, or >>>>>>>> typing >>>>>>>> "Costco" into the search engine, only brought me to the Mexican >>>>>>>> site. The >>>>>>>> URL showing did not have the .mx on it at all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's that damned Swagbucks spyware that you use. That's what those >>>>>>> things do - redirect your browser to sites IT wants to take you. >>>>>>> Stop >>>>>>> crying about it and suck it up. You won't get any sympathy here. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think it is. Swagbucks is not spyware. >>>>> >>>>> You idiot, you don't even know what spyware is. Swagbucks IS spyware >>>>> - you give them access to your personal information in exchange for >>>>> the opportunity to collect "freebies" - which aren't free, you're >>>>> paying for them by giving up your privacy. >>>>> >>>> I know they are tracking some things and I have agreed to that. >>>> >>>>> But that's not the problem, because you voluntarily chose to do >>>>> that. The problem is, Swagbucks toolbar can and often is a delivery >>>>> device for a variety of malicious software. They admit it >>>>> themselves. IT techs know it, too. As do the malware detection and >>>>> removal companies, whose software is designed to flag this as a >>>>> Potentially Unwanted Product. The toolbar is made by Conduit, and >>>>> anybody who knows computers will tell you they don't allow Conduit >>>>> products on their pcs because they are malware delivery devices. >>>> >>>> Please give me a site for this. I did look this up last night using >>>> both Google and Bing. The only things I found where people were >>>> saying this were blogs or places where they want you to buy their >>>> software to remove stuff from your computer. >>>> >>>> My brother is a programmer and he knows that I use it. He did not >>>> tell me not to use it. >>>>> >>>>> But you will insist it's safe, it's reputable - hey, you're earning >>>>> SwagBucks! even while your computer slows down because it is >>>>> becoming ever more infested with malware delivered by that toolbar. >>>>> Malware that redirects you to different websites, malware that >>>>> changes your DNS settings, malware that can do anything, including >>>>> collecting your personal information and sending it to unknown third >>>>> parties. Because you don't know shit about computers. >>>> >>>> I didn't insist any of this stuff. I just haven't seen anything that >>>> is clear cut proof to me that it is bad. And you are correct, I don't >>>> know much about computers. >>>> >>>> I do not believe in any way, shape or form that the redirect came from >>>> them. I believe that it came from Costco. I did write to them. I >>>> have not heard anything back. >>>> >>>> My DNS settings are not changed. I did see on several websites that >>>> made the claim that it will hijack your browser to them. It has not >>>> done that to me and in fact, I have had to put it on there myself. >>>>> >>>>> Who knows - maybe some day you'll earn more in SwagBucks than you >>>>> pay out to have your computer repaired! >>>> >>>> Show me some proof of your claims. >>> >>> There's no point posting it, because you wouldn't understand it. It >>> would >>> be like explaining algebra to an armadillo. >> >> At least I know Algebra. > > You know the exponential value of posting dozens of times a day. So do you. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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![]() "Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > > > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message > ... >> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:22:51 -0700, Julie Bove wrote: >>> At least I know Algebra. >> >> You know the exponential value of posting dozens of times a day. > > So do you. Yep. Cheri |
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"Julie Bove" > wrote: > "sf" > wrote in message > ... > > On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:43:50 -0500, Moe DeLoughan > > > wrote: > > > >> On 6/16/2014 5:57 PM, sf wrote: > >> > On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:01:59 -0400, Nancy Young > >> > > wrote: > >> > > >> >> All I did was click on a website that was going to advise me > >> >> on the bloom time for Shasta Daisies. Blammo. > >> > > >> > Husband picked up a bad one when he was researching new cars. I think > >> > someone here mentioned a long time ago that malware can be installed > >> > by the rotating ads that pay for the websites we visit. The site is > >> > innocent of installing the malware and it's next to impossible for > >> > them to police the situation. > >> > > >> > >> Yep. This is why you really need to install ad-blocking software on > >> your browser. The heck with the philosophical arguments about websites > >> earning money through ad clicks, you have to look out for yourself. > > > > Much agreement here and it's installed on every browser. > > > I had one but it wouldn't work with Chrome. maybe chrome is the problem |
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On 6/17/2014 12:39 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 16:46:04 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >> "sf" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>>> I run Kaspersky. Do I need Malwarebytes? Would they conflict? >>> >>> They are talking about a toolbar. >>> http://www.safebro.com/tag/swagbucks-toolbar-spyware >> >> I am talking about Malwarebyes. > > Here's a discussion on the subject. Decide for yourself. > http://forum.kaspersky.com/lofiversi...p/t149610.html > The important detail is whether you're running both in real time, all the time. There is a possibility of conflict in that case, though it is not a given. But if you run the free version of antimalware software such as SuperAntiSpyware or Malwarebytes in conjunction with a standard realtime product, there won't be an issue, because the free versions do not constantly run in the background. They only run when you launch them. Even so, I routinely recommend to my customers that they purchase a pro version of antimalware software and run it in realtime in conjunction with their standard antivirus software. The risk of conflicts is usually so low as to not be an issue at all. AV products have come a long ways from the 1990s. |
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