I had some (leftover) roast beef in gravy portioned out in the freezer.
Thawed it out, heated it up. I buttered and toasted a french roll in
the oven and made a hot open-face roast beef sandwich. Topped it with a
couple of slices of provolone and passed it under the broiler to melt
and lightly toast the cheese.

Eaten with a knife and fork, of course.

How about you?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>I had some (leftover) roast beef in gravy portioned out in the freezer.
>Thawed it out, heated it up. I buttered and toasted a french roll in the
>oven and made a hot open-face roast beef sandwich. Topped it with a couple
>of slices of provolone and passed it under the broiler to melt and lightly
>toast the cheese.
>
> Eaten with a knife and fork, of course.
>
> How about you?
>
> Jill

Too early for dinner here. Husband can have leftovers. Not sure what
Angela and I will eat.

On 6/16/2014 7:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I had some (leftover) roast beef in gravy portioned out in the
>> freezer. Thawed it out, heated it up. I buttered and toasted a french
>> roll in the oven and made a hot open-face roast beef sandwich. Topped
>> it with a couple of slices of provolone and passed it under the
>> broiler to melt and lightly toast the cheese.
>>
>> Eaten with a knife and fork, of course.
>>
>> How about you?
>>
>> Jill
>
> Too early for dinner here. Husband can have leftovers. Not sure what
> Angela and I will eat.

Yep, you're on the left coast. The sun will be setting here shortly.
The deer are coming out and wandering around. I like to eat before 8:00.

Jill

On 6/16/2014 7:41 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> I had some (leftover) roast beef in gravy portioned out in the freezer.
> Thawed it out, heated it up. I buttered and toasted a french roll in
> the oven and made a hot open-face roast beef sandwich. Topped it with a
> couple of slices of provolone and passed it under the broiler to melt
> and lightly toast the cheese.
>
> Eaten with a knife and fork, of course.
>
> How about you?
>
> Jill

My dinners for a while are going to be very boring. I'm on a new diet
plan to not only stabilize my blood sugar, but to lose 10 pounds in a
month. I'm eating breakfast now, which I usually don't do, and
breakfast and lunch will be my main meals. Dinner will be veggies and
fruit. Tonight is a banana and broccoli. lol

--
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Cheryl

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/16/2014 7:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I had some (leftover) roast beef in gravy portioned out in the
>>> freezer. Thawed it out, heated it up. I buttered and toasted a french
>>> roll in the oven and made a hot open-face roast beef sandwich. Topped
>>> it with a couple of slices of provolone and passed it under the
>>> broiler to melt and lightly toast the cheese.
>>>
>>> Eaten with a knife and fork, of course.
>>>
>>> How about you?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Too early for dinner here. Husband can have leftovers. Not sure what
>> Angela and I will eat.
>
> Yep, you're on the left coast. The sun will be setting here shortly. The
> deer are coming out and wandering around. I like to eat before 8:00.

Deer? Run and take some pics. While you're at it, take some pics of trees
and maybe an ugly plate!

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 6/16/2014 7:41 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I had some (leftover) roast beef in gravy portioned out in the freezer.
>> Thawed it out, heated it up. I buttered and toasted a french roll in
>> the oven and made a hot open-face roast beef sandwich. Topped it with a
>> couple of slices of provolone and passed it under the broiler to melt
>> and lightly toast the cheese.
>>
>> Eaten with a knife and fork, of course.
>>
>> How about you?
>>
>> Jill
>
> My dinners for a while are going to be very boring. I'm on a new diet plan
> to not only stabilize my blood sugar, but to lose 10 pounds in a month.
> I'm eating breakfast now, which I usually don't do, and breakfast and
> lunch will be my main meals. Dinner will be veggies and fruit. Tonight
> is a banana and broccoli. lol

Fruit, especially bananas is not good for blood sugar. Bananas will spike
you. And if you don't eat some fat with that meal, you'll really have a
spike. As far as fruits go, some have good luck with berries in limited
amounts. But bananas and oranges are the best ones to eat if you want to
raise your blood sugar!

"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> eb.com...
>> On 6/16/2014 7:41 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> I had some (leftover) roast beef in gravy portioned out in the freezer.
>>> Thawed it out, heated it up. I buttered and toasted a french roll in
>>> the oven and made a hot open-face roast beef sandwich. Topped it with a
>>> couple of slices of provolone and passed it under the broiler to melt
>>> and lightly toast the cheese.
>>>
>>> Eaten with a knife and fork, of course.
>>>
>>> How about you?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> My dinners for a while are going to be very boring. I'm on a new diet
>> plan > to not only stabilize my blood sugar, but to lose 10 pounds in a
>> month. > I'm eating breakfast now, which I usually don't do, and
>> breakfast and > lunch will be my main meals. Dinner will be veggies and
>> fruit. Tonight > is a banana and broccoli. lol
>
> Fruit, especially bananas is not good for blood sugar. Bananas will
> spike you. And if you don't eat some fat with that meal, you'll really
> have a spike. As far as fruits go, some have good luck with berries in
> limited amounts. But bananas and oranges are the best ones to eat if you
> want to raise your blood sugar!

Ironically, bananas do little to raise *my* blood sugar, and eating carbs
with fats makes me sicker than sick. I need to pair carbs with lean
protein in order not to react. Aren't you always preaching to others about
how every diabetic is different?! You're the very last person anyone
should listen to for diabetic advice.
--
jinx the minx

On 6/16/2014 7:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/16/2014 7:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I had some (leftover) roast beef in gravy portioned out in the
>>>> freezer. Thawed it out, heated it up. I buttered and toasted a french
>>>> roll in the oven and made a hot open-face roast beef sandwich. Topped
>>>> it with a couple of slices of provolone and passed it under the
>>>> broiler to melt and lightly toast the cheese.
>>>>
>>>> Eaten with a knife and fork, of course.
>>>>
>>>> How about you?
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Too early for dinner here. Husband can have leftovers. Not sure what
>>> Angela and I will eat.
>>
>> Yep, you're on the left coast. The sun will be setting here shortly.
>> The deer are coming out and wandering around. I like to eat before
>> 8:00.
>
> Deer? Run and take some pics. While you're at it, take some pics of
> trees and maybe an ugly plate!

LOL! I don't have to run anywhere. My desk is in the corner of the
living room and the camera is right there. I just pick it up and take
pics.

Let's see... this young white-tail buck was in the yard just off my patio.

http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/...ps74668770.jpg

He wasn't alone, he brought along his friends/family:

http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6d63a5af.jpg

So sorry but I don't have any ugly plates. I might be able to dig up an
ugly serving bowl if I had to. LOL

Jill

"jinx the minx" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>> eb.com...
>>> On 6/16/2014 7:41 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had some (leftover) roast beef in gravy portioned out in the freezer.
>>>> Thawed it out, heated it up. I buttered and toasted a french roll in
>>>> the oven and made a hot open-face roast beef sandwich. Topped it with
>>>> a
>>>> couple of slices of provolone and passed it under the broiler to melt
>>>> and lightly toast the cheese.
>>>>
>>>> Eaten with a knife and fork, of course.
>>>>
>>>> How about you?
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> My dinners for a while are going to be very boring. I'm on a new diet
>>> plan > to not only stabilize my blood sugar, but to lose 10 pounds in a
>>> month. > I'm eating breakfast now, which I usually don't do, and
>>> breakfast and > lunch will be my main meals. Dinner will be veggies and
>>> fruit. Tonight > is a banana and broccoli. lol
>>
>> Fruit, especially bananas is not good for blood sugar. Bananas will
>> spike you. And if you don't eat some fat with that meal, you'll really
>> have a spike. As far as fruits go, some have good luck with berries in
>> limited amounts. But bananas and oranges are the best ones to eat if you
>> want to raise your blood sugar!
>
> Ironically, bananas do little to raise *my* blood sugar, and eating carbs
> with fats makes me sicker than sick. I need to pair carbs with lean
> protein in order not to react. Aren't you always preaching to others
> about
> how every diabetic is different?! You're the very last person anyone
> should listen to for diabetic advice.

She didn't ask for advice and I'm not preaching. You may have some other
medical issues. I don't know. But if you're not eating fat with the carbs,
they'll usually go straight into your system.

On 6/16/2014 8:15 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 6/16/2014 7:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, you're on the left coast. The sun will be setting here shortly.
>>> The deer are coming out and wandering around. I like to eat before
>>> 8:00.
>>
>> Deer? Run and take some pics. While you're at it, take some pics of
>> trees and maybe an ugly plate!
>
> LOL! I don't have to run anywhere. My desk is in the corner of the
> living room and the camera is right there. I just pick it up and take
> pics.
>
> Let's see... this young white-tail buck was in the yard just off my patio.
>
> http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/...ps74668770.jpg
>
> He wasn't alone, he brought along his friends/family:
>
> http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6d63a5af.jpg
>
> So sorry but I don't have any ugly plates. I might be able to dig up an
> ugly serving bowl if I had to. LOL
>
> Jill

http://i57.tinypic.com/11rso5e.jpg

It's a pileated woodpecker. Looks like it got stuck in the 1980's with
a punk hair-do.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/16/2014 8:15 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 6/16/2014 7:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yep, you're on the left coast. The sun will be setting here shortly.
>>>> The deer are coming out and wandering around. I like to eat before
>>>> 8:00.
>>>
>>> Deer? Run and take some pics. While you're at it, take some pics of
>>> trees and maybe an ugly plate!
>>
>> LOL! I don't have to run anywhere. My desk is in the corner of the
>> living room and the camera is right there. I just pick it up and take
>> pics.
>>
>> Let's see... this young white-tail buck was in the yard just off my
>> patio.
>>
>> http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/...ps74668770.jpg
>>
>> He wasn't alone, he brought along his friends/family:
>>
>> http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6d63a5af.jpg
>>
>> So sorry but I don't have any ugly plates. I might be able to dig up an
>> ugly serving bowl if I had to. LOL
>>
>> Jill
>
> http://i57.tinypic.com/11rso5e.jpg
>
> It's a pileated woodpecker. Looks like it got stuck in the 1980's with a
> punk hair-do.

At least it's not pecking your house. I had one but it didn't look like
that. It was pecking above my sliding door. I spoke sternly to it and told
it to go elsewhere. It did.

On 6/16/2014 8:14 PM, jinx the minx wrote:

> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>> eb.com...
>>> On 6/16/2014 7:41 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had some (leftover) roast beef in gravy portioned out in the freezer.
>>>> Thawed it out, heated it up. I buttered and toasted a french roll in
>>>> the oven and made a hot open-face roast beef sandwich. Topped it with a
>>>> couple of slices of provolone and passed it under the broiler to melt
>>>> and lightly toast the cheese.
>>>>
>>>> Eaten with a knife and fork, of course.
>>>>
>>>> How about you?
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> My dinners for a while are going to be very boring. I'm on a new diet
>>> plan > to not only stabilize my blood sugar, but to lose 10 pounds in a
>>> month. > I'm eating breakfast now, which I usually don't do, and
>>> breakfast and > lunch will be my main meals. Dinner will be veggies and
>>> fruit. Tonight > is a banana and broccoli. lol
>>
>> Fruit, especially bananas is not good for blood sugar. Bananas will
>> spike you. And if you don't eat some fat with that meal, you'll really
>> have a spike. As far as fruits go, some have good luck with berries in
>> limited amounts. But bananas and oranges are the best ones to eat if you
>> want to raise your blood sugar!
>
> Ironically, bananas do little to raise *my* blood sugar, and eating carbs
> with fats makes me sicker than sick. I need to pair carbs with lean
> protein in order not to react. Aren't you always preaching to others about
> how every diabetic is different?! You're the very last person anyone
> should listen to for diabetic advice.
>
I don't have diabetes but my blood sugar has been up and down and all
over the place lately. Julie (piggy backing) I didn't know that about
bananas. I will test shortly to see.


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Cheryl

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 6/16/2014 8:14 PM, jinx the minx wrote:
>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>>> eb.com...
>>>> On 6/16/2014 7:41 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had some (leftover) roast beef in gravy portioned out in the
>>>>> freezer.
>>>>> Thawed it out, heated it up. I buttered and toasted a french roll
>>>>> in
>>>>> the oven and made a hot open-face roast beef sandwich. Topped it with
>>>>> a
>>>>> couple of slices of provolone and passed it under the broiler to melt
>>>>> and lightly toast the cheese.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eaten with a knife and fork, of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> How about you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> My dinners for a while are going to be very boring. I'm on a new diet
>>>> plan > to not only stabilize my blood sugar, but to lose 10 pounds in a
>>>> month. > I'm eating breakfast now, which I usually don't do, and
>>>> breakfast and > lunch will be my main meals. Dinner will be veggies
>>>> and
>>>> fruit. Tonight > is a banana and broccoli. lol
>>>
>>> Fruit, especially bananas is not good for blood sugar. Bananas will
>>> spike you. And if you don't eat some fat with that meal, you'll really
>>> have a spike. As far as fruits go, some have good luck with berries in
>>> limited amounts. But bananas and oranges are the best ones to eat if
>>> you
>>> want to raise your blood sugar!
>>
>> Ironically, bananas do little to raise *my* blood sugar, and eating carbs
>> with fats makes me sicker than sick. I need to pair carbs with lean
>> protein in order not to react. Aren't you always preaching to others
>> about
>> how every diabetic is different?! You're the very last person anyone
>> should listen to for diabetic advice.
>>
> I don't have diabetes but my blood sugar has been up and down and all over
> the place lately. Julie (piggy backing) I didn't know that about bananas.
> I will test shortly to see.

Check the carb counts on your fruit. It is carbs that raise blood sugar.
If you have reactive hypoglycemia and eat too many carbs, you'll have a
spike and it will be followed by a crash. It's best to eat carbs with fat
and protein.

On 6/16/2014 8:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Check the carb counts on your fruit. It is carbs that raise blood
> sugar. If you have reactive hypoglycemia and eat too many carbs, you'll
> have a spike and it will be followed by a crash. It's best to eat carbs
> with fat and protein.

I just checked my sugar, and its 107 so not bad a 1/2 hour after a
banana. It's usually my fasting number that's high, over 100.
Sometimes anywhere from 104 - 138. It goes down when I test an hour
after my first meal.

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Cheryl

On 6/16/2014 8:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/16/2014 8:15 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 6/16/2014 7:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yep, you're on the left coast. The sun will be setting here shortly.
>>>>> The deer are coming out and wandering around. I like to eat before
>>>>> 8:00.
>>>>
>>>> Deer? Run and take some pics. While you're at it, take some pics of
>>>> trees and maybe an ugly plate!
>>>
>>> LOL! I don't have to run anywhere. My desk is in the corner of the
>>> living room and the camera is right there. I just pick it up and take
>>> pics.
>>>
>>> Let's see... this young white-tail buck was in the yard just off my
>>> patio.
>>>
>>> http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/...ps74668770.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> He wasn't alone, he brought along his friends/family:
>>>
>>> http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6d63a5af.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> So sorry but I don't have any ugly plates. I might be able to dig up an
>>> ugly serving bowl if I had to. LOL
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> http://i57.tinypic.com/11rso5e.jpg
>>
>> It's a pileated woodpecker. Looks like it got stuck in the 1980's
>> with a punk hair-do.
>
> At least it's not pecking your house. I had one but it didn't look like
> that.

Birds on your side of the country are different from the ones I see here.

> It was pecking above my sliding door. I spoke sternly to it and
> told it to go elsewhere. It did.

Oh, I've got a red bellied woodpecker that sometimes hammers on the
chimney once in a while. I go outside and clap my hands and it flies
off. I see lots of small downey woodpeckers scooting up and down the
trees, too.

Jill

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:31:01 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:
snip
>
>http://i57.tinypic.com/11rso5e.jpg
>
>It's a pileated woodpecker. Looks like it got stuck in the 1980's with
>a punk hair-do.
>
>Jill
Aren't they huge! The only time I have ever seen one was in TN. They
look prehistoric. Amazing looking things. You're so lucky to have
such a special bird around.
P.S. Last Saturday we had a cow in our court. Have absolutely no
idea where it came from. We called 911 off and on to let the police
know which way the animal was going so they could wrangle it until
Fish and Game got here with a trailer. It will have been returned to
owner because it was both branded and had a registered ear tag. I
suppose it found a way down from grazing on the Bureau of Land
Management land in the foothills the same way the moose found its way
down to the golf course.
Janet US

In article >, jmcquown
> wrote:

> It's a pileated woodpecker. Looks like it got stuck in the 1980's with
> a punk hair-do.

I went to LaCrosse, WI for my granddaughter's graduation. I hadn't been
out of Nevada for many years. I saw my first cardinal. I imagined that
they were the size of jays. They're a red sparrow with a crest.
Nevertheless, it was the most important bird on my bucket list.
I'd put a pileated woodpecker second.

leo

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 19:41:46 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> I had some (leftover) roast beef in gravy portioned out in the freezer.
> Thawed it out, heated it up. I buttered and toasted a french roll in
> the oven and made a hot open-face roast beef sandwich. Topped it with a
> couple of slices of provolone and passed it under the broiler to melt
> and lightly toast the cheese.
>
> Eaten with a knife and fork, of course.
>
> How about you?
>
I posted mine (meal in minutes 6-16-14) before I saw this. My server
regurgitated 100+ old posts tonight, but I don't see that thread.
Don't know if it moseyed over to rfc-land or not.


--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/16/2014 8:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 6/16/2014 8:15 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 6/16/2014 7:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, you're on the left coast. The sun will be setting here shortly.
>>>>>> The deer are coming out and wandering around. I like to eat before
>>>>>> 8:00.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deer? Run and take some pics. While you're at it, take some pics of
>>>>> trees and maybe an ugly plate!
>>>>
>>>> LOL! I don't have to run anywhere. My desk is in the corner of the
>>>> living room and the camera is right there. I just pick it up and take
>>>> pics.
>>>>
>>>> Let's see... this young white-tail buck was in the yard just off my
>>>> patio.
>>>>
>>>> http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/...ps74668770.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He wasn't alone, he brought along his friends/family:
>>>>
>>>> http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6d63a5af.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So sorry but I don't have any ugly plates. I might be able to dig up
>>>> an
>>>> ugly serving bowl if I had to. LOL
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> http://i57.tinypic.com/11rso5e.jpg
>>>
>>> It's a pileated woodpecker. Looks like it got stuck in the 1980's
>>> with a punk hair-do.
>>
>> At least it's not pecking your house. I had one but it didn't look like
>> that.
>
> Birds on your side of the country are different from the ones I see here.
>
>> It was pecking above my sliding door. I spoke sternly to it and
>> told it to go elsewhere. It did.
>
> Oh, I've got a red bellied woodpecker that sometimes hammers on the
> chimney once in a while. I go outside and clap my hands and it flies off.
> I see lots of small downey woodpeckers scooting up and down the trees,
> too.
>
My parents had such bad trouble with them, they had to hire a special bird
guy. He put spinning things on all the corners of the house. They had to
have a lot of siding replaced. Birds pecked huge holes in there and nothing
else would make them go away.

"Leonard Blaisdell" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, jmcquown
> > wrote:
>
>> It's a pileated woodpecker. Looks like it got stuck in the 1980's with
>> a punk hair-do.
>
> I went to LaCrosse, WI for my granddaughter's graduation. I hadn't been
> out of Nevada for many years. I saw my first cardinal. I imagined that
> they were the size of jays. They're a red sparrow with a crest.
> Nevertheless, it was the most important bird on my bucket list.
> I'd put a pileated woodpecker second.
>
We had lots of cardinals in NY. Very pretty!

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 6/16/2014 8:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Check the carb counts on your fruit. It is carbs that raise blood
>> sugar. If you have reactive hypoglycemia and eat too many carbs, you'll
>> have a spike and it will be followed by a crash. It's best to eat carbs
>> with fat and protein.
>
> I just checked my sugar, and its 107 so not bad a 1/2 hour after a banana.
> It's usually my fasting number that's high, over 100. Sometimes anywhere
> from 104 - 138. It goes down when I test an hour after my first meal.

What's the point of checking at a half an hour after eating? Your spike
will like come at 1 to to hours later.

You may not have diabetes yet, but you do have issues with numbers like
that. Normal is around 80.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> I had some (leftover) roast beef in gravy portioned out in the freezer.
> Thawed it out, heated it up. I buttered and toasted a french roll in the
> oven and made a hot open-face roast beef sandwich. Topped it with a
> couple of slices of provolone and passed it under the broiler to melt and
> lightly toast the cheese.
>
> Eaten with a knife and fork, of course.
>
> How about you?

We had been working in the garden most of the day and I was tired so ... In
the fridge I had cold new potatoes, oven 'fried' chicken and salad makings.
I fried onions and the potatoes and served up the rest cold. It just hit
the spot!


--
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On 6/16/2014 11:48 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, jmcquown
> > wrote:
>
>> It's a pileated woodpecker. Looks like it got stuck in the 1980's with
>> a punk hair-do.
>
> I went to LaCrosse, WI for my granddaughter's graduation. I hadn't been
> out of Nevada for many years. I saw my first cardinal. I imagined that
> they were the size of jays. They're a red sparrow with a crest.
> Nevertheless, it was the most important bird on my bucket list.
> I'd put a pileated woodpecker second.
>
> leo
>
Glad you got to see one! Cardinals are average size birds.

They're around here (SC) year round. There's a mated pair with a nest
somewhere nearby. I often see them at my bird bath.

Last year they had a nest in the pyracantha which is right by my
kitchen. I heard a horrific racket. I ran to the window in the dining
room. They were fighting a black rat snake! The snake had climbed the
tree and was trying to get to the hatchling in the nest. They managed
to scare it off. The next day, same racket, same snake. This time they
weren't so lucky. The snake snagged the hatchling and had it half
swallowed before I could get to the door. (I'm not sure what I could
have done about it, the poor thing was likely already dead.) Those poor
cardinals were distraught. They hung around in the tree, pipping
distressedly for an hour, before abandoning the nest.

Jill

On 6/16/2014 11:10 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:31:01 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
> snip
>>
>> http://i57.tinypic.com/11rso5e.jpg
>>
>> It's a pileated woodpecker. Looks like it got stuck in the 1980's with
>> a punk hair-do.
>>
>> Jill
> Aren't they huge! The only time I have ever seen one was in TN. They
> look prehistoric. Amazing looking things. You're so lucky to have
> such a special bird around.

That picture doesn't do it justice (taken through a window). Yep,
they're big birds! It's funny, I had never seen one around here before.

I didn't know they were around until someone told me so. There was a
big debate about whether or not to allow a cell tower to be constructed
on Dataw. (Overwhelming NO vote on that one, thanks!) One guy said the
area where they proposed erecting the tower would not only displace the
great blue herons who nest on the ground by the water but also the
pileated woodpeckers. (They'd have razed @ 2900 square feet for the
tower and the generator.) I thought hmmm, I've never seen a pileated
woodpecker. Practically the next day I looked up and I'll be darned,
there it was. :-D

> P.S. Last Saturday we had a cow in our court. Have absolutely no
> idea where it came from. We called 911 off and on to let the police
> know which way the animal was going so they could wrangle it until
> Fish and Game got here with a trailer. It will have been returned to
> owner because it was both branded and had a registered ear tag. I
> suppose it found a way down from grazing on the Bureau of Land
> Management land in the foothills the same way the moose found its way
> down to the golf course.
> Janet US
>
Now that would be odd! I wonder how the cow got out? I don't remember
where you live (if I ever knew). Moose are wild critters so that's sort
of understandable. A branded cow? Not so much.

Jill

On 6/17/2014 2:02 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>>>>
>>>> http://i57.tinypic.com/11rso5e.jpg
>>>>
>>>> It's a pileated woodpecker. Looks like it got stuck in the 1980's
>>>> with a punk hair-do.
>>>
>>> At least it's not pecking your house. I had one but it didn't look like
>>> that.
>>
>> Birds on your side of the country are different from the ones I see here.
>>
>>> It was pecking above my sliding door. I spoke sternly to it and
>>> told it to go elsewhere. It did.
>>
>> Oh, I've got a red bellied woodpecker that sometimes hammers on the
>> chimney once in a while. I go outside and clap my hands and it flies
>> off. I see lots of small downey woodpeckers scooting up and down the
>> trees, too.
>>
> My parents had such bad trouble with them, they had to hire a special
> bird guy. He put spinning things on all the corners of the house. They
> had to have a lot of siding replaced. Birds pecked huge holes in there
> and nothing else would make them go away.

Woodpeckers can do some real damage, that's for sure. I'm honestly
surprised there aren't more brick homes around here. Given the
heat/humidity and rain (wood rot, don'tcha know) it would make more
sense to build with bricks. When they were first developing this island
they wanted everything to appear "natural". I guess bricks didn't fit
into the vision they had in mind.

Jill

On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:31:13 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 6/16/2014 11:10 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
snip
>
>> P.S. Last Saturday we had a cow in our court. Have absolutely no
>> idea where it came from. We called 911 off and on to let the police
>> know which way the animal was going so they could wrangle it until
>> Fish and Game got here with a trailer. It will have been returned to
>> owner because it was both branded and had a registered ear tag. I
>> suppose it found a way down from grazing on the Bureau of Land
>> Management land in the foothills the same way the moose found its way
>> down to the golf course.
>> Janet US
>>
>Now that would be odd! I wonder how the cow got out? I don't remember
>where you live (if I ever knew). Moose are wild critters so that's sort
>of understandable. A branded cow? Not so much.
>
>Jill
I live out west. We have sage and grassy foothills, not at all like
what is in TN (bigger hills leading up to the mountains). These are
great expanses that are leased by ranchers from the BLM. All roads
have cattle guards across them (an open shallow trench that is covered
with metal grid.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...ures&FORM=IGRE
This allows cars to cross but cattle not) The cattle guards are the
only barrier to anything coming down out of the hills. (no fences)
However, the distance is great and steep and treacherous. I'm
guessing the steer got into a gentle draw in the hillside and followed
it down. I've lived here for decades and never heard of cattle coming
into the city. There are sheep up there too, but they have a herder
and dogs to keep them in place. When driving up the mountain I've
never seen any livestock. They are grazed far, far away from roads.
Janet US

On 6/17/2014 11:08 AM, wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:31:13 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>>
>> I didn't know they were around until someone told me so. There was a
>> big debate about whether or not to allow a cell tower to be constructed
>> on Dataw. (Overwhelming NO vote on that one, thanks!) One guy said the
>> area where they proposed erecting the tower would not only displace the
>> great blue herons who nest on the ground by the water but also the
>> pileated woodpeckers. (They'd have razed @ 2900 square feet for the
>> tower and the generator.) I thought hmmm, I've never seen a pileated
>> woodpecker. Practically the next day I looked up and I'll be darned,
>> there it was. :-D
>
> I think he is wrong in that ! Very wrong. Years ago I had a
> neighbour who was in to ham radio and he put up a tower to improve
> reception. In the spring I wished he would take it down, the
> woodpeckers would alight on it and drum, VERY loudly, on the metal.
>
> I asked about this at the Natural History Museum and they laughed and
> said that where woodpeckers are concerned, the louder the drumming,
> the more the female thinks they are wonderful and it has been
> documented that if there is a choice between a tree and a metal pylon,
> they will take metal every time!
>
When I lived in west TN I had a metal chimney. The woodpeckers loved
hammering on it. This guy was talking about razing the land for the
tower, removing trees and displacing nesting spots for both the
woodpeckers and great blue heron (water birds) which nest on the ground.

Jill

On 6/17/2014 10:17 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:31:13 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Now that would be odd! I wonder how the cow got out? I don't remember
>> where you live (if I ever knew). Moose are wild critters so that's sort
>> of understandable. A branded cow? Not so much.
>>
>> Jill
> I live out west. We have sage and grassy foothills, not at all like
> what is in TN (bigger hills leading up to the mountains). These are
> great expanses that are leased by ranchers from the BLM. All roads
> have cattle guards across them (an open shallow trench that is covered
> with metal grid.

Yep, I know what cattle guards are.

> This allows cars to cross but cattle not) The cattle guards are the
> only barrier to anything coming down out of the hills. (no fences)
> However, the distance is great and steep and treacherous. I'm
> guessing the steer got into a gentle draw in the hillside and followed
> it down. I've lived here for decades and never heard of cattle coming
> into the city. There are sheep up there too, but they have a herder
> and dogs to keep them in place. When driving up the mountain I've
> never seen any livestock. They are grazed far, far away from roads.
> Janet US
>
Maybe the cow just wanted a little excitement.

When I lived in west TN I was on my way to Schnuck's (grocery store) one
morning and there was a cow standing in the middle of the two-lane road.
Of course this was well outside of the city so I wasn't really
surprised. The land on both sides *was* fenced, though, so I don't know
how the cow got out.

Jill

On 6/17/2014 7:41 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> Glad you got to see one! Cardinals are average size birds.
>
> They're around here (SC) year round. There's a mated pair with a nest
> somewhere nearby. I often see them at my bird bath.
>
> Last year they had a nest in the pyracantha which is right by my
> kitchen. I heard a horrific racket. I ran to the window in the dining
> room. They were fighting a black rat snake! The snake had climbed the
> tree and was trying to get to the hatchling in the nest. They managed
> to scare it off. The next day, same racket, same snake. This time they
> weren't so lucky. The snake snagged the hatchling and had it half
> swallowed before I could get to the door. (I'm not sure what I could
> have done about it, the poor thing was likely already dead.) Those poor
> cardinals were distraught. They hung around in the tree, pipping
> distressedly for an hour, before abandoning the nest.
>
> Jill

Unfortunately, I saw that happen with bluejays and the birds squawked
for at least an hour. Sad.

Becca

On 6/17/2014 9:17 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:

> I live out west. We have sage and grassy foothills, not at all like
> what is in TN (bigger hills leading up to the mountains). These are
> great expanses that are leased by ranchers from the BLM. All roads
> have cattle guards across them (an open shallow trench that is covered
> with metal grid.
> http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...ures&FORM=IGRE
> This allows cars to cross but cattle not) The cattle guards are the
> only barrier to anything coming down out of the hills. (no fences)
> However, the distance is great and steep and treacherous. I'm
> guessing the steer got into a gentle draw in the hillside and followed
> it down. I've lived here for decades and never heard of cattle coming
> into the city. There are sheep up there too, but they have a herder
> and dogs to keep them in place. When driving up the mountain I've
> never seen any livestock. They are grazed far, far away from roads.
> Janet US


When I was growing up, we had a 300-acre ranch outside of town and it
was surrounded by national forest. The police called and said a cow near
our property was hit by a car, the cow went through the windshield
killing the driver. It took us 20 minutes to get there to see if the cow
was ours, but our tags were not on it, we have no idea where the cow
came from. We used fences and cattle guards.

Becca

jmcquown wrote:
>
> When I lived in west TN I was on my way to Schnuck's (grocery store) one
> morning and there was a cow standing in the middle of the two-lane road.
> Of course this was well outside of the city so I wasn't really
> surprised. The land on both sides *was* fenced, though, so I don't know
> how the cow got out.

Wire cutters. Any hardware store sells them. Even to cows if they have
the cash.

On Monday, June 16, 2014 8:48:46 PM UTC-7, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, jmcquown
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> > It's a pileated woodpecker. Looks like it got stuck in the 1980's with
>
> > a punk hair-do.
>
>
>
> I went to LaCrosse, WI for my granddaughter's graduation. I hadn't been
>
> out of Nevada for many years. I saw my first cardinal. I imagined that
>
> they were the size of jays. They're a red sparrow with a crest.
>
> Nevertheless, it was the most important bird on my bucket list.
>
> I'd put a pileated woodpecker second.
>
>
>
> leo


I can't find your original post, Leo, the one where you said seeing a cardinal was on your bucket list so I will respond to this one.

Imagine my surprise! I too have been wanting to see a cardinal. I hadn't ever seen one either so when we planned our trip to New York in March, I was determined that we would find one. And we did!
So exciting, they are beautiful! My pictures came out meh because they are so flibbertigibbety

Glad you spotted one too!

Nellie

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 20:48:46 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >, jmcquown
> wrote:
>
>> It's a pileated woodpecker. Looks like it got stuck in the 1980's with
>> a punk hair-do.
>
>I went to LaCrosse, WI for my granddaughter's graduation. I hadn't been
>out of Nevada for many years. I saw my first cardinal. I imagined that
>they were the size of jays. They're a red sparrow with a crest.
>Nevertheless, it was the most important bird on my bucket list.
>I'd put a pileated woodpecker second.
>
>leo

I can't remember ever seeing a cardinal in LaCrosse. I do recall lots
of them on the Univ. of Wisc. Madison campus.
Janet US

I get jealous reading about all the birds you all see. I live in Baltimore, and there's not much birdlife here compared to you all.

What excites me is seeing the comeback of hawks and eagles. I've seen eagles in way northern New Hampshire and Cape Cod (I used to live in Boston.) But I did see a bald eagle on a thoroughfare in suburban Baltimore about a month ago! When I first moved down here, I lived in the western suburbs, I saw two really ugly birds picking at the remains of a squirrel in the back yard. I think they're called pigeon hawks, or something like that. They're brown birds with huge white circles of feathers around their eyes, really spooky looking, like Friday the 13th.

The big thing in the news here was about a bull that escaped from a butcher house down in the inner city and was running at full gallop down Pennsylvania Avenue until the Police shot it! I guess it was a danger to people; mind you, this was right in inner city Baltimore, and a lot of people were surprised that there was still a butcher house down there. That sure made the news. I wonder if they wanted the Bull back- for I'm sure that was a big expense to lose it!

On 2014-06-18 4:51 PM, Terrence Crimmins wrote:
> I get jealous reading about all the birds you all see. I live in
> Baltimore, and there's not much birdlife here compared to you all.
>
> What excites me is seeing the comeback of hawks and eagles. I've
> seen eagles in way northern New Hampshire and Cape Cod (I used to
> live in Boston.) But I did see a bald eagle on a thoroughfare in
> suburban Baltimore about a month ago! When I first moved down here,
> I lived in the western suburbs, I saw two really ugly birds picking
> at the remains of a squirrel in the back yard. I think they're
> called pigeon hawks, or something like that. They're brown birds
> with huge white circles of feathers around their eyes, really spooky
> looking, like Friday the 13th.


We are seeing more and more birds that never lived here before or which
had disappeared and are making a comeback. Last year I joined a kayaking
club and get out on a couple long paddles every week. We have seen
quite a few Bald Eagles. Last Sunday there were two of them in a tree.
It may not be exciting for people on the north west coast but is is
something special here.


Mute Swans were unheard of here until about 10 years ago. Now they are
almost an invasive species.
>
> The big thing in the news here was about a bull that escaped from a
> butcher house down in the inner city and was running at full gallop
> down Pennsylvania Avenue until the Police shot it! I guess it was a
> danger to people; mind you, this was right in inner city Baltimore,
> and a lot of people were surprised that there was still a butcher
> house down there. That sure made the news. I wonder if they wanted
> the Bull back- for I'm sure that was a big expense to lose it!
>

That would be a slaughter house not a butcher shop.

In article >, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> I live out west. We have sage and grassy foothills, not at all like
> what is in TN (bigger hills leading up to the mountains). These are
> great expanses that are leased by ranchers from the BLM. All roads
> have cattle guards across them (an open shallow trench that is covered
> with metal grid.

You might appreciate this, Janet. I have a friend who worked for the
USDA among other jobs before retirement. While at the USDA, his office
received a query from Washington. They noticed there were a lot of
cattle guards in Nevada and wanted to know what a cattle guard's salary
was. Now, this begs to be apocryphal, but he swears it happened to him.

leo

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:26:49 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>
>> I live out west. We have sage and grassy foothills, not at all like
>> what is in TN (bigger hills leading up to the mountains). These are
>> great expanses that are leased by ranchers from the BLM. All roads
>> have cattle guards across them (an open shallow trench that is covered
>> with metal grid.
>
>You might appreciate this, Janet. I have a friend who worked for the
>USDA among other jobs before retirement. While at the USDA, his office
>received a query from Washington. They noticed there were a lot of
>cattle guards in Nevada and wanted to know what a cattle guard's salary
>was. Now, this begs to be apocryphal, but he swears it happened to him.
>
>leo

I gotta get me one of them jobs. ;o)
Janet US

In article >,
says...
>
> On 2014-06-18 4:51 PM, Terrence Crimmins wrote:

> > The big thing in the news here was about a bull that escaped from a
> > butcher house down in the inner city and was running at full gallop
> > down Pennsylvania Avenue until the Police shot it! I guess it was a
> > danger to people; mind you, this was right in inner city Baltimore,
> > and a lot of people were surprised that there was still a butcher
> > house down there. That sure made the news. I wonder if they wanted
> > the Bull back- for I'm sure that was a big expense to lose it!
> >
>
> That would be a slaughter house not a butcher shop.

Could be both; the slaughterhouse here is owned by a local butcher and
adjoins his butcher shop.

Janet UK

On 6/18/2014 6:26 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Janet Bostwick
> > wrote:
>
>> I live out west. We have sage and grassy foothills, not at all like
>> what is in TN (bigger hills leading up to the mountains). These are
>> great expanses that are leased by ranchers from the BLM. All roads
>> have cattle guards across them (an open shallow trench that is covered
>> with metal grid.
>
> You might appreciate this, Janet. I have a friend who worked for the
> USDA among other jobs before retirement. While at the USDA, his office
> received a query from Washington. They noticed there were a lot of
> cattle guards in Nevada and wanted to know what a cattle guard's salary
> was. Now, this begs to be apocryphal, but he swears it happened to him.
>
> leo
>
I actually read that in a work of fiction I was reading last week.
Allegedly it was a Senator who asked the question. It wouldn't surprise
me to find out it was true.

Jill

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 20:04:09 -0300, wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 16:47:14 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:26:49 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:
>>
>>>In article >, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I live out west. We have sage and grassy foothills, not at all like
>>>> what is in TN (bigger hills leading up to the mountains). These are
>>>> great expanses that are leased by ranchers from the BLM. All roads
>>>> have cattle guards across them (an open shallow trench that is covered
>>>> with metal grid.
>>>
>>>You might appreciate this, Janet. I have a friend who worked for the
>>>USDA among other jobs before retirement. While at the USDA, his office
>>>received a query from Washington. They noticed there were a lot of
>>>cattle guards in Nevada and wanted to know what a cattle guard's salary
>>>was. Now, this begs to be apocryphal, but he swears it happened to him.
>>>
>>>leo
>>
>>I gotta get me one of them jobs. ;o)
>>Janet US
>
>How do you look in metal ? Sort of have a vision of Madonna-like wear
>

Oooooo, yes! Pointy bra?
Janet US