This just on the news. A woman dialed 911 from Minneapolis when a man was
breaking into her apartment. She was connected to a 911 operator in NY.
This was not even a matter of her having or not having the correct area code
on her phone. It has to do with cell towers and such. They said it
doesn't happen in all areas. Just some. They said that 911 operators need
to start asking where the person is calling from, first thing.

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:26:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> This just on the news. A woman dialed 911 from Minneapolis when a man was
> breaking into her apartment. She was connected to a 911 operator in NY.
> This was not even a matter of her having or not having the correct area code
> on her phone. It has to do with cell towers and such. They said it
> doesn't happen in all areas. Just some. They said that 911 operators need
> to start asking where the person is calling from, first thing.

Localities will need to address the issue sooner or later because so
many do not have traditional landlines, only cell phones and/or VOIP.
911 calls made from cell phones in California are routed to the
Highway Patrol.

From about.com

Location, Location, Location

When you call 911 from a cell phone, the call often lands in a
regional center. A call-taker in a far-away city or county may answer
your call. To get help to you, there are two pieces of information the
call-taker needs to know immediately:

Tell the call-taker which city you're calling from.
Tell the call-taker what type of emergency you have.

Different emergency services use different dispatch centers. With the
right information, the call-taker will transfer you to the right
center.


Read this
http://www.fcc.gov/guides/wireless-911-services
http://www.fcc.gov/guides/voip-and-911-service


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:26:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> This just on the news. A woman dialed 911 from Minneapolis when a man
>> was
>> breaking into her apartment. She was connected to a 911 operator in NY.
>> This was not even a matter of her having or not having the correct area
>> code
>> on her phone. It has to do with cell towers and such. They said it
>> doesn't happen in all areas. Just some. They said that 911 operators
>> need
>> to start asking where the person is calling from, first thing.
>
> Localities will need to address the issue sooner or later because so
> many do not have traditional landlines, only cell phones and/or VOIP.
> 911 calls made from cell phones in California are routed to the
> Highway Patrol.
>
> From about.com
>
> Location, Location, Location
>
> When you call 911 from a cell phone, the call often lands in a
> regional center. A call-taker in a far-away city or county may answer
> your call. To get help to you, there are two pieces of information the
> call-taker needs to know immediately:
>
> Tell the call-taker which city you're calling from.
> Tell the call-taker what type of emergency you have.
>
> Different emergency services use different dispatch centers. With the
> right information, the call-taker will transfer you to the right
> center.
>
>
> Read this
> http://www.fcc.gov/guides/wireless-911-services
> http://www.fcc.gov/guides/voip-and-911-service

Thanks!

On 6/24/2014 8:00 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:26:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> This just on the news. A woman dialed 911 from Minneapolis when a man was
>> breaking into her apartment. She was connected to a 911 operator in NY.
>> This was not even a matter of her having or not having the correct area code
>> on her phone. It has to do with cell towers and such. They said it
>> doesn't happen in all areas. Just some. They said that 911 operators need
>> to start asking where the person is calling from, first thing.
>
> Localities will need to address the issue sooner or later because so
> many do not have traditional landlines, only cell phones and/or VOIP.
> 911 calls made from cell phones in California are routed to the
> Highway Patrol.
>
> From about.com
>
> Location, Location, Location
>
> When you call 911 from a cell phone, the call often lands in a
> regional center. A call-taker in a far-away city or county may answer
> your call. To get help to you, there are two pieces of information the
> call-taker needs to know immediately:
>
> Tell the call-taker which city you're calling from.
> Tell the call-taker what type of emergency you have.
>
> Different emergency services use different dispatch centers. With the
> right information, the call-taker will transfer you to the right
> center.
>
>
> Read this
> http://www.fcc.gov/guides/wireless-911-services
> http://www.fcc.gov/guides/voip-and-911-service
>
>
My "home phone" is a wireless system from Verizon. When I call 911 I
have to give them the address. It took seconds when Barry died to get
me to the proper dispatch. Seconds! I did not get sent to NY.

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On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:13:06 -0500, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

> My "home phone" is a wireless system from Verizon. When I call 911 I
> have to give them the address. It took seconds when Barry died to get
> me to the proper dispatch. Seconds! I did not get sent to NY.

That's good to hear. We only have cell phones and I've been wondering
what kind of problem we'll have if/when we need to use them in a real
emergency like you had. Time waits for no man... or woman.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:13:06 -0500, Janet Wilder >
> wrote:
>
>> My "home phone" is a wireless system from Verizon. When I call 911 I
>> have to give them the address. It took seconds when Barry died to get
>> me to the proper dispatch. Seconds! I did not get sent to NY.
>
> That's good to hear. We only have cell phones and I've been wondering
> what kind of problem we'll have if/when we need to use them in a real
> emergency like you had. Time waits for no man... or woman.

you need to save in your cell phone the non-911phone number for emergency
services dispatch in areas you frequent, including home.

On 6/24/2014 9:37 PM, Pico Rico wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:13:06 -0500, Janet Wilder >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My "home phone" is a wireless system from Verizon. When I call 911 I
>>> have to give them the address. It took seconds when Barry died to get
>>> me to the proper dispatch. Seconds! I did not get sent to NY.
>>
>> That's good to hear. We only have cell phones and I've been wondering
>> what kind of problem we'll have if/when we need to use them in a real
>> emergency like you had. Time waits for no man... or woman.
>
> you need to save in your cell phone the non-911phone number for emergency
> services dispatch in areas you frequent, including home.
>
NON 911 emergency services? I could program the number of the county
sheriff's office into my phone. If I called it right now (10PM) I'd get
a recording stating if it's an emergency call 911.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/24/2014 9:37 PM, Pico Rico wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:13:06 -0500, Janet Wilder >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My "home phone" is a wireless system from Verizon. When I call 911 I
>>>> have to give them the address. It took seconds when Barry died to get
>>>> me to the proper dispatch. Seconds! I did not get sent to NY.
>>>
>>> That's good to hear. We only have cell phones and I've been wondering
>>> what kind of problem we'll have if/when we need to use them in a real
>>> emergency like you had. Time waits for no man... or woman.
>>
>> you need to save in your cell phone the non-911phone number for emergency
>> services dispatch in areas you frequent, including home.
>>
> NON 911 emergency services? I could program the number of the county
> sheriff's office into my phone. If I called it right now (10PM) I'd get a
> recording stating if it's an emergency call 911.

I have several non-911 dispatch numbers on my phone. I guess it is a case
of YMMV. Or, maybe call and tell them what you want and they will give you
the RIGHT number to connect to dispatch.

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:26:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>This just on the news. A woman dialed 911 from Minneapolis when a man was
>breaking into her apartment. She was connected to a 911 operator in NY.
>This was not even a matter of her having or not having the correct area code
>on her phone. It has to do with cell towers and such. They said it
>doesn't happen in all areas. Just some. They said that 911 operators need
>to start asking where the person is calling from, first thing.

Its not the first time its happened in America either. I know of one
woman lost in a national park, she dialled 911 and kept being put
through to the wrong office. They eventually found her dead.

On 6/24/2014 9:20 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
(snip) calling 911 with cellphones
>
> Its not the first time its happened in America either. I know of one
> woman lost in a national park, she dialled 911 and kept being put
> through to the wrong office. They eventually found her dead.

I thought cellphones had GPS locators when they were used to call
emergency numbers. That way, the 911 operators could locate their
specific locations via GPS (?). Seems I'm incorrect about that ?

Sky

On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:57:28 PM UTC-5, Sky wrote:
>
> I thought cellphones had GPS locators when they were used to call
> emergency numbers. That way, the 911 operators could locate their
> specific locations via GPS (?). Seems I'm incorrect about that ?
>
>
> Sky
>
>
I had to use my cell phone for a 911 call about a year and a half ago for an emergency call. Frustrating piece of shit was all I can say about my cell phone. FINALLY got someone to connect me with the police and my neighbor also called using his cell phone.

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:57:28 -0500, Sky >
wrote:

> On 6/24/2014 9:20 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> >
> (snip) calling 911 with cellphones
> >
> > Its not the first time its happened in America either. I know of one
> > woman lost in a national park, she dialled 911 and kept being put
> > through to the wrong office. They eventually found her dead.
>
> I thought cellphones had GPS locators when they were used to call
> emergency numbers. That way, the 911 operators could locate their
> specific locations via GPS (?). Seems I'm incorrect about that ?
>

They can locate the cell tower the call went through. IMO, they need
to triangulate the call to spot the location - it's possible, but that
won't happen until they are required to do it by law. So much for big
business looking out for the consumer's best interest.

--
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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:13:06 -0500, Janet Wilder >
> wrote:
>
>> My "home phone" is a wireless system from Verizon. When I call 911 I
>> have to give them the address. It took seconds when Barry died to get
>> me to the proper dispatch. Seconds! I did not get sent to NY.
>
> That's good to hear. We only have cell phones and I've been wondering
> what kind of problem we'll have if/when we need to use them in a real
> emergency like you had. Time waits for no man... or woman.

I've had to do it twice and that the first time was a year or two ago. Some
spaced out looking older man was riding a bike against the traffic and
swerving in and out of my lane and the next one. Can't tell you how many
times he was almost hit or how many accidents he nearly caused.

The next time was fairly recent. I had a guy go into road rage at me
because I had to slam my brakes on. Some idiot pulled in front of me
without signaling and if I hadn't slammed on my brakes, I would have hit
him. The road rager was driving a big white Mercedes. He pulled around to
the side of me and made some sort of hand gesture to me while glaring at me.
I think he saw Angela take a picture of his license plate so that we'd have
the number because he very quickly swerved off of the road without signaling
and sped off very quickly on some other road.

Both times I did get the right department.

"Pico Rico" > wrote in message
...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:13:06 -0500, Janet Wilder >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My "home phone" is a wireless system from Verizon. When I call 911 I
>>> have to give them the address. It took seconds when Barry died to get
>>> me to the proper dispatch. Seconds! I did not get sent to NY.
>>
>> That's good to hear. We only have cell phones and I've been wondering
>> what kind of problem we'll have if/when we need to use them in a real
>> emergency like you had. Time waits for no man... or woman.
>
> you need to save in your cell phone the non-911phone number for emergency
> services dispatch in areas you frequent, including home.

That's a good idea. Although I could look it up with my Smart Phone, there
were a couple of times when we could have used that number. Both times, we
got stuck at a traffic light that didn't change for about a half an hour.
Different lights in different cities. In one case, Angela called my dad who
was able to get the number for her but by the time she began to dial it, the
light for whatever reason changed.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/24/2014 9:37 PM, Pico Rico wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:13:06 -0500, Janet Wilder >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My "home phone" is a wireless system from Verizon. When I call 911 I
>>>> have to give them the address. It took seconds when Barry died to get
>>>> me to the proper dispatch. Seconds! I did not get sent to NY.
>>>
>>> That's good to hear. We only have cell phones and I've been wondering
>>> what kind of problem we'll have if/when we need to use them in a real
>>> emergency like you had. Time waits for no man... or woman.
>>
>> you need to save in your cell phone the non-911phone number for emergency
>> services dispatch in areas you frequent, including home.
>>
> NON 911 emergency services? I could program the number of the county
> sheriff's office into my phone. If I called it right now (10PM) I'd get a
> recording stating if it's an emergency call 911.

I think he/she meant the non-emergency number. I have dialed 911 when I
wasn't sure if it was a true emergency or not. One was when some older lady
accidentally dialed my cell phone. Not sure who she was trying to reach but
she made it sound like she was having a heart attack. I had a really
difficult time understanding her so I just called and gave them her number.

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:58:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> there
> were a couple of times when we could have used that number. Both times, we
> got stuck at a traffic light that didn't change for about a half an hour.

I was stuck at a red light for way too long (certainly not half an
hour). About the time I was considering running the light, someone
pulled up behind me and told me to pull forward because the light had
some sort of car alarm on it and I wasn't in the area that it could
read (odd multi-street configuration, too hard to explain). I moved
forward and ta-da, the light changed.

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On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:56:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> Both times I did get the right department.

City or highway patrol? In any case, you're in a different state and
apparently they don't all work the same.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:57:28 -0500, Sky >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/24/2014 9:20 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> >
>> (snip) calling 911 with cellphones
>> >
>> > Its not the first time its happened in America either. I know of one
>> > woman lost in a national park, she dialled 911 and kept being put
>> > through to the wrong office. They eventually found her dead.
>>
>> I thought cellphones had GPS locators when they were used to call
>> emergency numbers. That way, the 911 operators could locate their
>> specific locations via GPS (?). Seems I'm incorrect about that ?
>>
>
> They can locate the cell tower the call went through. IMO, they need
> to triangulate the call to spot the location - it's possible, but that
> won't happen until they are required to do it by law. So much for big
> business looking out for the consumer's best interest.

I don't know if you can still get them but there used to be a dumbed down
version of a cell phone for kids. It would dial 911 and perhaps 5 other
numbers. Nothing else. It had a GPS on it so you could locate your kid.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:58:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> there
>> were a couple of times when we could have used that number. Both times,
>> we
>> got stuck at a traffic light that didn't change for about a half an hour.
>
> I was stuck at a red light for way too long (certainly not half an
> hour). About the time I was considering running the light, someone
> pulled up behind me and told me to pull forward because the light had
> some sort of car alarm on it and I wasn't in the area that it could
> read (odd multi-street configuration, too hard to explain). I moved
> forward and ta-da, the light changed.

Yes. I know that can happen. But that didn't apply in these cases. Oddly
enough, both times, we were turning left and there were two left hand turn
lanes. Once it was during rush out and there were tons of cars backing up
going either direction. We were on a very busy road, trying to turn onto
the highway each time. Different highways. Both times, all of the highway
people had green lights. We even watched as it allowed them to have the
left turn green arrow. So the people going straight did get a rid light
while those people turned. And then they would get to go again.

At first, we thought maybe a fire truck had gone through because when that
happens, all lights can turn red and then you might miss a cycle or two.
But that hadn't happened. All of the drivers were just sitting there
like... What do we do? Nobody dared run the light (not that we could)
because they have cameras on them here. We'd have gotten a ticket if we
had.

No clue why the lights eventually did change either. It was just weird.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:56:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Both times I did get the right department.
>
> City or highway patrol? In any case, you're in a different state and
> apparently they don't all work the same.

Both times I got the Lynnwood police. Both incidents were in that city.

On 2014-06-25 12:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:13:06 -0500, Janet Wilder >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My "home phone" is a wireless system from Verizon. When I call 911 I
>>> have to give them the address. It took seconds when Barry died to get
>>> me to the proper dispatch. Seconds! I did not get sent to NY.
>>
>> That's good to hear. We only have cell phones and I've been wondering
>> what kind of problem we'll have if/when we need to use them in a real
>> emergency like you had. Time waits for no man... or woman.
>
> I've had to do it twice and that the first time was a year or two ago.
> Some spaced out looking older man was riding a bike against the traffic
> and swerving in and out of my lane and the next one. Can't tell you how
> many times he was almost hit or how many accidents he nearly caused.
>
> The next time was fairly recent. I had a guy go into road rage at me
> because I had to slam my brakes on. Some idiot pulled in front of me
> without signaling and if I hadn't slammed on my brakes, I would have hit
> him. The road rager was driving a big white Mercedes. He pulled around
> to the side of me and made some sort of hand gesture to me while glaring
> at me. I think he saw Angela take a picture of his license plate so that
> we'd have the number because he very quickly swerved off of the road
> without signaling and sped off very quickly on some other road.
>
> Both times I did get the right department.

You called 911 because someone gave you the finger???
I hope they charged you for the response.

On 2014-06-25 12:58 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

> That's a good idea. Although I could look it up with my Smart Phone,
> there were a couple of times when we could have used that number. Both
> times, we got stuck at a traffic light that didn't change for about a
> half an hour. Different lights in different cities. In one case, Angela
> called my dad who was able to get the number for her but by the time she
> began to dial it, the light for whatever reason changed.


You sat at a non functioning traffic light for half an hour???
You are retarded.

On 2014-06-25 1:00 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

>> NON 911 emergency services? I could program the number of the county
>> sheriff's office into my phone. If I called it right now (10PM) I'd
>> get a recording stating if it's an emergency call 911.
>
> I think he/she meant the non-emergency number. I have dialed 911 when I
> wasn't sure if it was a true emergency or not. One was when some older
> lady accidentally dialed my cell phone. Not sure who she was trying to
> reach but she made it sound like she was having a heart attack. I had a
> really difficult time understanding her so I just called and gave them
> her number.


Someone accidentally called your cell phone when they were trying to
call 911??
LMAO

On 2014-06-25 1:32 AM, sf wrote:

>> there
>> were a couple of times when we could have used that number. Both times, we
>> got stuck at a traffic light that didn't change for about a half an hour.
>
> I was stuck at a red light for way too long (certainly not half an
> hour). About the time I was considering running the light, someone
> pulled up behind me and told me to pull forward because the light had
> some sort of car alarm on it and I wasn't in the area that it could
> read (odd multi-street configuration, too hard to explain). I moved
> forward and ta-da, the light changed.
>


Maybe it is a good thing that Julie had the cell phone. She and her span
might have starved at that traffic light.

On 6/25/2014 1:32 AM, sf wrote:

> I was stuck at a red light for way too long (certainly not half an
> hour). About the time I was considering running the light, someone
> pulled up behind me and told me to pull forward because the light had
> some sort of car alarm on it and I wasn't in the area that it could
> read (odd multi-street configuration, too hard to explain). I moved
> forward and ta-da, the light changed.

I had to get out of my car once because this woman was causing
an actual traffic jam. Told her PULL UP! The camera doesnt
know you're here!

nancy

On 2014-06-25 9:08 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 6/25/2014 1:32 AM, sf wrote:
>
>> I was stuck at a red light for way too long (certainly not half an
>> hour). About the time I was considering running the light, someone
>> pulled up behind me and told me to pull forward because the light had
>> some sort of car alarm on it and I wasn't in the area that it could
>> read (odd multi-street configuration, too hard to explain). I moved
>> forward and ta-da, the light changed.
>
> I had to get out of my car once because this woman was causing
> an actual traffic jam. Told her PULL UP! The camera doesnt
> know you're here!
>

There is an intersection near here where the light is green only for the
northbound or southbound. When I called to complain about the advanced
green I was corrected. The problem is that motorcycles do not trip the
sensor. I have been stuck sitting there while the east west lights
cycled to allow green for the oncoming traffic but not for me. After
making sure the way was clear, I blew the red light.

On 6/25/2014 9:21 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-06-25 9:08 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> I had to get out of my car once because this woman was causing
>> an actual traffic jam. Told her PULL UP! The camera doesnt
>> know you're here!

> There is an intersection near here where the light is green only for the
> northbound or southbound. When I called to complain about the advanced
> green I was corrected. The problem is that motorcycles do not trip the
> sensor. I have been stuck sitting there while the east west lights
> cycled to allow green for the oncoming traffic but not for me. After
> making sure the way was clear, I blew the red light.

That's a problem I have read about before. It's only common
sense, if you see the light is not going to change for some
reason, you don't sit there trapped. After a few minutes, think
of a way out of your predicament.

nancy

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-06-25 9:08 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 6/25/2014 1:32 AM, sf wrote:
>>
>>> I was stuck at a red light for way too long (certainly not half an
>>> hour). About the time I was considering running the light, someone
>>> pulled up behind me and told me to pull forward because the light had
>>> some sort of car alarm on it and I wasn't in the area that it could
>>> read (odd multi-street configuration, too hard to explain). I moved
>>> forward and ta-da, the light changed.
>>
>> I had to get out of my car once because this woman was causing
>> an actual traffic jam. Told her PULL UP! The camera doesnt
>> know you're here!
>>
>
> There is an intersection near here where the light is green only for the
> northbound or southbound. When I called to complain about the advanced
> green I was corrected. The problem is that motorcycles do not trip the
> sensor. I have been stuck sitting there while the east west lights cycled
> to allow green for the oncoming traffic but not for me. After making sure
> the way was clear, I blew the red light.
>

flattening the motorcycle in the process?

On 2014-06-25 9:41 AM, Pico Rico wrote:

>> There is an intersection near here where the light is green only for the
>> northbound or southbound. When I called to complain about the advanced
>> green I was corrected. The problem is that motorcycles do not trip the
>> sensor. I have been stuck sitting there while the east west lights cycled
>> to allow green for the oncoming traffic but not for me. After making sure
>> the way was clear, I blew the red light.
>>
>
> flattening the motorcycle in the process?
>

Don't worry. I made sure there was no traffic. On occasions where the
east west traffic lights had cycled a couple times to let oncoming
traffic through, I went through on their green while the cross traffic
was stopped.

There is a problem there and I have reported it.

"Jeßus" wrote:
>
> Its not the first time its happened in America either. I know of one
> woman lost in a national park, she dialled 911 and kept being put
> through to the wrong office. They eventually found her dead.

If you call from a landline they will see your address. If you call
from a cell phone, it's important to immediately tell them where your
are....even before telling them the problem.

G.

sf wrote:
>
> They can locate the cell tower the call went through. IMO, they need
> to triangulate the call to spot the location - it's possible, but that
> won't happen until they are required to do it by law. So much for big
> business looking out for the consumer's best interest.

lol. you of all people should know that big business (and small
business) doesn't give a crap about the consumer's best interest. It's
all about profit. That's the bottom line, like it or not. :-D

G.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:10:35 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > They can locate the cell tower the call went through. IMO, they need
> > to triangulate the call to spot the location - it's possible, but that
> > won't happen until they are required to do it by law. So much for big
> > business looking out for the consumer's best interest.
>
> lol. you of all people should know that big business (and small
> business) doesn't give a crap about the consumer's best interest. It's
> all about profit. That's the bottom line, like it or not. :-D
>

Just my way of pointing out why government always has to step in.
Leaving them alone to police themselves and do the right thing doesn't
work. You're welcome.


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On 6/24/2014 9:11 PM, Pico Rico wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/24/2014 9:37 PM, Pico Rico wrote:
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:13:06 -0500, Janet Wilder >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My "home phone" is a wireless system from Verizon. When I call 911 I
>>>>> have to give them the address. It took seconds when Barry died to get
>>>>> me to the proper dispatch. Seconds! I did not get sent to NY.
>>>>
>>>> That's good to hear. We only have cell phones and I've been wondering
>>>> what kind of problem we'll have if/when we need to use them in a real
>>>> emergency like you had. Time waits for no man... or woman.
>>>
>>> you need to save in your cell phone the non-911phone number for emergency
>>> services dispatch in areas you frequent, including home.
>>>
>> NON 911 emergency services? I could program the number of the county
>> sheriff's office into my phone. If I called it right now (10PM) I'd get a
>> recording stating if it's an emergency call 911.
>
> I have several non-911 dispatch numbers on my phone. I guess it is a case
> of YMMV. Or, maybe call and tell them what you want and they will give you
> the RIGHT number to connect to dispatch.
>
>
I have the sheriff's department phone number on my cell phone. Just
realized it today as I was cleaning up my contact list on Verizon Backup
Assistant. New Samsung S5 comes tomorrow. Old Moto RAZR is having
severe battery issues. I need to keep the phone with me in case I fall
or something to Verizon shortened my contract date so I could upgrade
the phone at the end of contract price.

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On 6/25/2014 12:09 PM, Gary wrote:
> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> Its not the first time its happened in America either. I know of one
>> woman lost in a national park, she dialled 911 and kept being put
>> through to the wrong office. They eventually found her dead.
>
> If you call from a landline they will see your address. If you call
> from a cell phone, it's important to immediately tell them where your
> are....even before telling them the problem.
>
> G.
>
Exactly what I have to do since my home phone is cellular

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On 6/24/2014 10:57 PM, Sky wrote:

>
> I thought cellphones had GPS locators when they were used to call
> emergency numbers. That way, the 911 operators could locate their
> specific locations via GPS (?). Seems I'm incorrect about that ?
>
> Sky
>

Old ones did not have it and at least on some, you can turn it off.
Mine is off as I know where I am and it conserves the battery. I think
this is one of those things they are trying to standardize

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:41:35 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/24/2014 10:57 PM, Sky wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> > I thought cellphones had GPS locators when they were used to call
>
> > emergency numbers. That way, the 911 operators could locate their
>
> > specific locations via GPS (?). Seems I'm incorrect about that ?
>
> Old ones did not have it and at least on some, you can turn it off.
>
> Mine is off as I know where I am and it conserves the battery. I think
>
> this is one of those things they are trying to standardize

The FCC has required GPS location for E911 on 95% of a wireless carrier's subscriber phones since 2005. They are supposed to be able to locate the phone within 300 meters. Several carriers were fined in 2005 for missing the deadline. Also, phones have to work for 911 even if they aren't activated or on a contract with any carrier. I'm pretty sure the new ones will turn the GPS on for 911 calls even if you have it turned off. It is certainly possible for someone with an old cell phone to not have GPS, but the carrier is required to be able to identify the caller's phone number and which tower they are using.

http://www.fcc.gov/guides/wireless-911-services

Bill Ranck
Blacsburg, VA

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:57:28 -0500, Sky >
wrote:

>On 6/24/2014 9:20 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> >
>(snip) calling 911 with cellphones
>>
>> Its not the first time its happened in America either. I know of one
>> woman lost in a national park, she dialled 911 and kept being put
>> through to the wrong office. They eventually found her dead.
>
>I thought cellphones had GPS locators when they were used to call
>emergency numbers. That way, the 911 operators could locate their
>specific locations via GPS (?). Seems I'm incorrect about that ?

That I don't know, I'm not familiar with U.S phone systems. But in her
case at least, she had problems getting put through to the right
office (or whatever they call it).

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:10:35 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>>
>> They can locate the cell tower the call went through. IMO, they need
>> to triangulate the call to spot the location - it's possible, but that
>> won't happen until they are required to do it by law. So much for big
>> business looking out for the consumer's best interest.
>
>lol. you of all people should know that big business (and small
>business) doesn't give a crap about the consumer's best interest. It's
>all about profit. That's the bottom line, like it or not. :-D

I must admit, that's an extremely odd concept - why on earth would big
business look after consumers best interests? When has it ever been
that way, LOL

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:09:57 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>"Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> Its not the first time its happened in America either. I know of one
>> woman lost in a national park, she dialled 911 and kept being put
>> through to the wrong office. They eventually found her dead.
>
>If you call from a landline they will see your address. If you call
>from a cell phone, it's important to immediately tell them where your
>are....even before telling them the problem.

Yeah, that is the case here also. This woman couldnt tell them exactly
where she was. There was some problem with the system which was
putting her through to the wrong area and eventually her phone went
dead.

On 6/25/2014 12:09 PM, Gary wrote:
> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> Its not the first time its happened in America either. I know of one
>> woman lost in a national park, she dialled 911 and kept being put
>> through to the wrong office. They eventually found her dead.
>
> If you call from a landline they will see your address.

Don't be surprised if they ask for it anyway, as well as your name and
phone number. "For verification purposes", according to our local
dispatch center.