I just started reading this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Tomatoland-Ind...rds=tomatoland

It talks of slave labor in Florida. The slaves harvest tomatoes. They are
beaten if sick or unable to work. They are locked in cages at night.
Hideous.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I just started reading this book:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Tomatoland-Ind...rds=tomatoland
>
> It talks of slave labor in Florida. The slaves harvest tomatoes. They are
> beaten if sick or unable to work. They are locked in cages at night.
> Hideous.

Don't believe everything you read...

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 03:20:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"squirrels
> wrote:

>I just started reading this book:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Tomatoland-Ind...rds=tomatoland
>
>It talks of slave labor in Florida. The slaves harvest tomatoes. They are
>beaten if sick or unable to work. They are locked in cages at night.
>Hideous.

I don't understand people. How can some be so inhumane?

I'm reading Dreamland. Very interesting. Says couples should sleep
in separate beds. Wish I read this book when I was married!

One of my tomatoes is turning yellow; put some more stakes and
vinegar-soaked socks around the perimeter. Keeps the squirrels at
bay, for a while.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:05:07 -0400, Gus > wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 03:20:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"squirrels
> > wrote:
>
> >I just started reading this book:
> >
> >http://www.amazon.com/Tomatoland-Ind...rds=tomatoland
> >
> >It talks of slave labor in Florida. The slaves harvest tomatoes. They are
> >beaten if sick or unable to work. They are locked in cages at night.
> >Hideous.
>
> I don't understand people. How can some be so inhumane?

If modern day slavery is happening in Florida today, it's because
nobody cares about how illegal workers are treated. If things were
any better at home, they wouldn't be here in the first place. Blame
the victim. If you're poor, it's your own d@mn fault. They are told
to shut up and work or go home. Who would they tell even if they
could? Go to the authorities, get deported.


--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 07:57:58 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I just started reading this book:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Tomatoland-Ind...rds=tomatoland
>>
>> It talks of slave labor in Florida. The slaves harvest tomatoes. They are
>> beaten if sick or unable to work. They are locked in cages at night.
>> Hideous.
>
>Don't believe everything you read...

and only half of what you see.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 07:28:42 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:05:07 -0400, Gus > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 03:20:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"squirrels
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >I just started reading this book:
>> >
>> >http://www.amazon.com/Tomatoland-Ind...rds=tomatoland
>> >
>> >It talks of slave labor in Florida. The slaves harvest tomatoes. They are
>> >beaten if sick or unable to work. They are locked in cages at night.
>> >Hideous.
>>
>> I don't understand people. How can some be so inhumane?
>
>If modern day slavery is happening in Florida today, it's because
>nobody cares about how illegal workers are treated. If things were
>any better at home, they wouldn't be here in the first place. Blame
>the victim. If you're poor, it's your own d@mn fault. They are told
>to shut up and work or go home. Who would they tell even if they
>could? Go to the authorities, get deported.

sigh

prostitutes too.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:44:48 -0400, Gus > wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 07:28:42 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:05:07 -0400, Gus > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 03:20:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"squirrels
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >I just started reading this book:
> >> >
> >> >http://www.amazon.com/Tomatoland-Ind...rds=tomatoland
> >> >
> >> >It talks of slave labor in Florida. The slaves harvest tomatoes. They are
> >> >beaten if sick or unable to work. They are locked in cages at night.
> >> >Hideous.
> >>
> >> I don't understand people. How can some be so inhumane?
> >
> >If modern day slavery is happening in Florida today, it's because
> >nobody cares about how illegal workers are treated. If things were
> >any better at home, they wouldn't be here in the first place. Blame
> >the victim. If you're poor, it's your own d@mn fault. They are told
> >to shut up and work or go home. Who would they tell even if they
> >could? Go to the authorities, get deported.
>
> sigh
>
> prostitutes too.

We have all sorts of illegal worker slave labor situations in the USA
that no one is talking about. It's not limited to field work and
prostitution.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:41:53 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:44:48 -0400, Gus > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 07:28:42 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:05:07 -0400, Gus > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 03:20:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"squirrels
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I just started reading this book:
>> >> >
>> >> >http://www.amazon.com/Tomatoland-Ind...rds=tomatoland
>> >> >
>> >> >It talks of slave labor in Florida. The slaves harvest tomatoes. They are
>> >> >beaten if sick or unable to work. They are locked in cages at night.
>> >> >Hideous.
>> >>
>> >> I don't understand people. How can some be so inhumane?
>> >
>> >If modern day slavery is happening in Florida today, it's because
>> >nobody cares about how illegal workers are treated. If things were
>> >any better at home, they wouldn't be here in the first place. Blame
>> >the victim. If you're poor, it's your own d@mn fault. They are told
>> >to shut up and work or go home. Who would they tell even if they
>> >could? Go to the authorities, get deported.
>>
>> sigh
>>
>> prostitutes too.
>
>We have all sorts of illegal worker slave labor situations in the USA
>that no one is talking about. It's not limited to field work and
>prostitution.

people do what they have to, to survive... I'm also reading The Great
Necessity... 2.5 billion-- with a b-- people do not have toilets or
adequate sanitation.

Jesus, I have three bathrooms!

"Pete C." > wrote in message
om...
>
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I just started reading this book:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Tomatoland-Ind...rds=tomatoland
>>
>> It talks of slave labor in Florida. The slaves harvest tomatoes. They
>> are
>> beaten if sick or unable to work. They are locked in cages at night.
>> Hideous.
>
> Don't believe everything you read...

Are all these links wrong?

http://www.blisstree.com/2012/08/24/...y-florida-572/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel...b_1381421.html

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...IVES/209051016

http://www.gourmet.com/foodpolitics/...aves-follow-up

http://thecnnfreedomproject.blogs.cn...es-to-slavery/

There are many more links.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:44:48 -0400, Gus > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 07:28:42 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:05:07 -0400, Gus > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 03:20:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"squirrels
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I just started reading this book:
>> >> >
>> >> >http://www.amazon.com/Tomatoland-Ind...rds=tomatoland
>> >> >
>> >> >It talks of slave labor in Florida. The slaves harvest tomatoes.
>> >> >They are
>> >> >beaten if sick or unable to work. They are locked in cages at night.
>> >> >Hideous.
>> >>
>> >> I don't understand people. How can some be so inhumane?
>> >
>> >If modern day slavery is happening in Florida today, it's because
>> >nobody cares about how illegal workers are treated. If things were
>> >any better at home, they wouldn't be here in the first place. Blame
>> >the victim. If you're poor, it's your own d@mn fault. They are told
>> >to shut up and work or go home. Who would they tell even if they
>> >could? Go to the authorities, get deported.
>>
>> sigh
>>
>> prostitutes too.
>
> We have all sorts of illegal worker slave labor situations in the USA
> that no one is talking about. It's not limited to field work and
> prostitution.

Sadly, yes.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:07:50 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Pete C." > wrote in message
. com...
>>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I just started reading this book:
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Tomatoland-Ind...rds=tomatoland
>>>
>>> It talks of slave labor in Florida. The slaves harvest tomatoes. They
>>> are
>>> beaten if sick or unable to work. They are locked in cages at night.
>>> Hideous.
>>
>> Don't believe everything you read...
>
>Are all these links wrong?
>
>http://www.blisstree.com/2012/08/24/...y-florida-572/
>
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel...b_1381421.html
>
>http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...IVES/209051016
>
>http://www.gourmet.com/foodpolitics/...aves-follow-up
>
>http://thecnnfreedomproject.blogs.cn...es-to-slavery/
>
>There are many more links.

yes, there are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbBB8QEbUtg

sf > wrote in
:

> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:44:48 -0400, Gus > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 07:28:42 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:05:07 -0400, Gus >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 03:20:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"squirrels
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I just started reading this book:
>> >> >
>> >> >http://www.amazon.com/Tomatoland-Ind...ure-Destroyed-
>> >> >Alluring/dp/1449423450/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403691277&sr=8-1&ke
>> >> >ywords=tomatoland
>> >> >
>> >> >It talks of slave labor in Florida. The slaves harvest tomatoes.
>> >> > They are beaten if sick or unable to work. They are locked in
>> >> >cages at night. Hideous.
>> >>
>> >> I don't understand people. How can some be so inhumane?
>> >
>> >If modern day slavery is happening in Florida today, it's because
>> >nobody cares about how illegal workers are treated. If things were
>> >any better at home, they wouldn't be here in the first place. Blame
>> >the victim. If you're poor, it's your own d@mn fault. They are
>> >told to shut up and work or go home. Who would they tell even if
>> >they could? Go to the authorities, get deported.
>>
>> sigh
>>
>> prostitutes too.
>
> We have all sorts of illegal worker slave labor situations in the USA
> that no one is talking about. It's not limited to field work and
> prostitution.
>

The only way to end these practices is to subject the upper management of
companies engaged in those practices to Federal civil rights prosecutions,
then *farm* those convicted out to Southern state prisons that still employ
chain gangs.

--
--Bryan
You can cover up your guts, but when you cover up your nuts
You're admitting that there must be something wrong.
-The Who https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FSZhCKbQZc

Gus > wrote in
:

> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:07:50 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Pete C." > wrote in message
.com...
>>>
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just started reading this book:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Tomatoland-Ind...ure-Destroyed-
Al
>>>> luring/dp/1449423450/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403691277&sr=8-1
&keywor
>>>> ds=tomatoland
>>>>
>>>> It talks of slave labor in Florida. The slaves harvest tomatoes.
>>>> They are
>>>> beaten if sick or unable to work. They are locked in cages at
>>>> night. Hideous.
>>>
>>> Don't believe everything you read...
>>
>>Are all these links wrong?
>>
>>http://www.blisstree.com/2012/08/24/...omato-slavery-
flori
>>da-572/
>>
>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel...rming-florida-
immok
>>alee_b_1381421.html
>>
>>http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...IVES/209051016
>>
>>http://www.gourmet.com/foodpolitics/...-of-the-plate-
tomat
>>o-slaves-follow-up
>>
>>http://thecnnfreedomproject.blogs.cn...1/your-tomato-
possib
>>le-ties-to-slavery/
>>
>>There are many more links.
>
> yes, there are.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbBB8QEbUtg
>
That was ****ing great. Nice to see a tribute to Lou Reed on Pride
Weekend. He was pretty far to the hetero side of the spectrum, but
identified with the *** subculture, and LGBT liberation. He and David
Bowie had a huge influence upon males like me, and lured straight guys
into acceptance of *** and bisexual equality.

I went to the commitment ceremony in St.Louis today, where same sex
couples took vows in the rotunda of City Hall. It was "a God awful
small affair", an adjunct to the huge festival that had overpriced food,
and music that was indistinguishable from that at any other similar
festival.

It's interesting how so many hetero males embraced the idea of
bisexuality even though they were quite hetero, and hetero and bi
females appreciated the company of *** men as friends, I guess because
they were non-threatening.

Whatever sort of body one has, that is one of the best love songs, ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYEC4TZsy-Y

[written yesterday]


--
--Bryan
You can cover up your guts, but when you cover up your nuts
You're admitting that there must be something wrong.
-The Who https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FSZhCKbQZc

"Winters_Lackey" > wrote in message
...
> Gus > wrote in
>> yes, there are.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbBB8QEbUtg
>>

> That was ****ing great. Nice to see a tribute to Lou Reed on Pride
> Weekend. He was pretty far to the hetero side of the spectrum, but
> identified with the *** subculture, and LGBT liberation. He and David
> Bowie had a huge influence upon males like me, and lured straight guys
> into acceptance of *** and bisexual equality.
>
> I went to the commitment ceremony in St.Louis today, where same sex
> couples took vows in the rotunda of City Hall. It was "a God awful
> small affair", an adjunct to the huge festival that had overpriced
> food,
> and music that was indistinguishable from that at any other similar
> festival.
>
> It's interesting how so many hetero males embraced the idea of
> bisexuality even though they were quite hetero, and hetero and bi
> females appreciated the company of *** men as friends, I guess because
> they were non-threatening.
>
> Whatever sort of body one has, that is one of the best love songs,
> ever.

New York is the album everyone knew Lou Reed would make someday... I
read that in a review.

My tomatoes are all coming ripe at the same time... Guess I can give to
friends and relatives... Some are looking vg!

On 6/29/2014 7:21 AM, Gus wrote:
> "Winters_Lackey" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Gus > wrote in
>>> yes, there are.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbBB8QEbUtg
>>>
>
>> That was ****ing great. Nice to see a tribute to Lou Reed on Pride
>> Weekend. He was pretty far to the hetero side of the spectrum, but
>> identified with the *** subculture, and LGBT liberation. He and David
>> Bowie had a huge influence upon males like me, and lured straight guys
>> into acceptance of *** and bisexual equality.
>>
>> I went to the commitment ceremony in St.Louis today, where same sex
>> couples took vows in the rotunda of City Hall. It was "a God awful
>> small affair", an adjunct to the huge festival that had overpriced food,
>> and music that was indistinguishable from that at any other similar
>> festival.
>>
>> It's interesting how so many hetero males embraced the idea of
>> bisexuality even though they were quite hetero, and hetero and bi
>> females appreciated the company of *** men as friends, I guess because
>> they were non-threatening.
>>
>> Whatever sort of body one has, that is one of the best love songs, ever.
>
> New York is the album everyone knew Lou Reed would make someday... I
> read that in a review.
>
> My tomatoes are all coming ripe at the same time... Guess I can give to
> friends and relatives... Some are looking vg!
>
>
I would kill for a nice big Jersey Beefstake tomato. Someone who used
to be on this group and was a former neighbor of mine once sent me a box
of them. I was in tomato heaven.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
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So you don't like New York, but love tomatoes?

I like both. So far the vinegar soaked socks are holding off the
squirrels. Last two years, damn things stole every one of my niece's
tomatoes and fair number of mine. I think the key is to resoak the
socks after a rain. The vinegar bottle says every 10 days but I think
that is too long.

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 9:05:07 AM UTC-5, Gus Overton wrote:
>
>
> I'm reading Dreamland. Very interesting.
>
Pretty soon I'll be able to read again. I'm more than halfway
though the major revising, and am actively pursuing agents. I
think the first thing I'll read is The Fault In Our Stars. The
movie was very good, and my wife says that the book is even better.
>
> Says couples should sleep in separate beds. Wish I read this
> book when I was married!
>
God, I hate waking up alone. Haha, more music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-VeOakGGPQ

--Bryan

"Bryan-TGWWW" >
> God, I hate waking up alone.

but do you like waking up to snoring, or being pushed off the bed-- in
the middle of the night?