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On 6/29/2014 9:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-06-29 8:45 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>
>> I think it's your civic duty to keep emergency supplies on hand for
>> a couple of days at least. Having the water supply shut down for
>> one day, inconvenient, yes, but they shouldn't have to supply
>> drinking water to able bodied adults.
>>

>
> Why not? They are a public utility and hold the monopoly for supplying
> an important commodity to its consumers. In exchange for the monopoly
> there should be responsibility. If the system were to break down
> completely they can't just walk away from it and leave their customers
> without access to potable water.


I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't have the wherewithall
to be able to take care of themselves for ONE DAY if there's
a water situation. Imagine a real emergency.

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On 6/29/2014 9:32 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

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>> Frequent showering is a fairly modern tradition. Once a week used to be
>> plenty. Some dermatologists recommend limiting showers to 3 or 4 times
>> a week.

>
>
> I can think of a few people who could increase their frequency of
> showering. I have a shower at least one a day, but I only use soap on
> certain areas. I do not lather up every square inch of my body.
>
> When it is hot and sticky a cool shower 2-3 times a day is very refreshing.


I still only take one shower, but hide in air conditioned environment
most of the time. AC is one of the greatest inventions of the past 100
or so years. Ranks right up with locking mail boxes.
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> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 00:13:40 -0700, Oregonian Haruspex
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>
>>On 2014-06-28 19:17:12 +0000, jmcquown said:
>>
>>> On 6/28/2014 3:02 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2014-06-28 2:01 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 6/28/2014 12:54 PM, Janet wrote:
>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A water main in the area broke. It's going to take until at least
>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>> Noon Saturday 6/28 to get it repaired.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Surely your water supply co will deliver bottled water, or a shared
>>>>>> bowser?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. Moot point since they fixed it yesterday. I guess they erred
>>>>> on
>>>>> the side of caution when making the predictions about when it would be
>>>>> repaired.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope you didn't have to throw out everything in your freezer like
>>>> Julie did when her power went out for a few hours ;-)
>>>>
>>> Hush! I didn't even have to open one of the gallon jugs of water to
>>> flush the toilet or to give the cat fresh water.
>>>
>>> What I can't fathom is the water company delivering bottled water to
>>> *thousands* of customers in a remote area due to a possible 24 hour
>>> outage. Why would Janet UK think they would?

>>
>>People in the UK are much more used to the system taking care of their
>>needs.

>
> What you really mean is, corporations take 'care' of you.
> All a matter of degree though.
>
>>We have more of a frontier spirit in the USA.

>
> Thats hilarious.


no kidding. 47% of the population taking more from the gummint than they
pay in is hardly a frontier spirit.


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On 6/29/2014 6:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/28/2014 10:47 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Earl wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm glad I got my shower before the water main broke. It would have
>>>>> been awful to be stuck with shampoo in my hair when it ran out. Ugh.
>>>>
>>>> What hair?
>>>
>>> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
>>>
>>> Lotsa dirt going on behind the scene... is she hitting on you too? LOL
>>>

>> Assholes, both of you. My hair is down to the middle of my back. It was
>> pulled back in a pony tail in that picture. You dickheads need to get a
>> life, or suck each other off.

>
> I don't understand what they are saying is wrong with that picture? You
> look good to me. They are just being nasty Let us have some pics of
> them here. I bet you they won't!


Thanks, Ophelia. So I didn't get all dressed up and put on makeup when
we went out to lunch. Big Flippin Deal.

We all know Earl is hung up on me. The only time he ever posts is to
inject some nasty comment about me. He's a stalker, plain and simple.

As for Sheldon, everyone knows he got his knickers in a twist because I
didn't want him phoning me every day. If he honestly thinks I was
*ever* hitting on him he's even loonier than I thought.

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 00:13:40 -0700, Oregonian Haruspex
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> People in the UK are much more used to the system taking care of their
> needs. We have more of a frontier spirit in the USA.


When it's a country the size of Michigan, I suppose they can grow to
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 07:24:49 -0700, "Pico Rico"
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> 47% of the population taking more from the gummint than they
> pay in is hardly a frontier spirit.


You tell 'em, Willard (Mitt)!

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 11:33:10 +0100, "Ophelia"
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> I don't understand what they are saying is wrong with that picture? You
> look good to me. They are just being nasty


Of course!

> Let us have some pics of them
> here. I bet you they won't!


Or they'll post dorky looking pictures of their younger selves. If
they looked that bad when they were younger, you know they look awful
now.

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/28/2014 10:47 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Earl wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm glad I got my shower before the water main broke. It would have
>>>>> been awful to be stuck with shampoo in my hair when it ran out. Ugh.
>>>>
>>>> What hair?
>>> http://tinypic.com/r/r26wk4/8
>>>
>>> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
>>>
>>> Lotsa dirt going on behind the scene... is she hitting on you too? LOL
>>>

>> Assholes, both of you. My hair is down to the middle of my back. It was
>> pulled back in a pony tail in that picture. You dickheads need to get a
>> life, or suck each other off.

>
> I don't understand what they are saying is wrong with that picture? You
> look good to me. They are just being nasty Let us have some pics of
> them here. I bet you they won't!


Yes, it's always those that that don't post current pics of themselves that
have the most unflattering things to say about someone elses pics. Hmmmmm, I
wonder why that is so? Actually, I don't wonder, I know that they're
probably hideous. LOL I think Jill looks just fine too, and it's obvious her
hair is pulled back. FO E&S

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> It is in remote areas miles from shops, to the housebound, sick,
> incontinent, bottlefed infants in nappies etc. A water company can't
> always be certain of repair within the advertised time.
>
> Janet UK


Do they not plan ahead and keep some bottled water on hand for emergencies?
A population can't always be certain that the government will come through
for them and they should at least be proactive in something simple like
having water on hand. It's not rocket science.

Cheri

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On 6/29/2014 12:05 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 6/28/2014 10:47 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> Earl wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm glad I got my shower before the water main broke. It would have
>>>>>> been awful to be stuck with shampoo in my hair when it ran out. Ugh.
>>>>>
>>>>> What hair?
>>>> http://tinypic.com/r/r26wk4/8
>>>>
>>>> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
>>>>
>>>> Lotsa dirt going on behind the scene... is she hitting on you too? LOL
>>>>
>>> Assholes, both of you. My hair is down to the middle of my back. It
>>> was
>>> pulled back in a pony tail in that picture. You dickheads need to get a
>>> life, or suck each other off.

>>
>> I don't understand what they are saying is wrong with that picture? You
>> look good to me. They are just being nasty Let us have some pics
>> of them here. I bet you they won't!

>
> Yes, it's always those that that don't post current pics of themselves
> that have the most unflattering things to say about someone elses pics.
> Hmmmmm, I wonder why that is so? Actually, I don't wonder, I know that
> they're probably hideous. LOL I think Jill looks just fine too, and it's
> obvious her hair is pulled back. FO E&S
>
> Cheri


Thanks, folks. I apologize for being so crude but it's just
ridiculous. So what if I didn't get all glammed up before we went to
lunch? It's hot here. I nearly always have my long hair pulled back in
a pony-tail or french braided.

OB Food: we ate at the Foolish Frog. I had a basket of battered fried
shrimp with house-made chips. I don't deep fry at home, I leave that
mess for someone else to deal with. John had a med-rare cheeseburger
and chips. It was nice enough for us to sit outside that day, not too
hot yet. If it had been really hot they have misters on the deck to
cool things down.

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>> It is in remote areas miles from shops, to the housebound, sick,
>> incontinent, bottlefed infants in nappies etc. A water company can't
>> always be certain of repair within the advertised time.
>>
>> Janet UK

>
> Do they not plan ahead and keep some bottled water on hand for
> emergencies? A population can't always be certain that the government will
> come through for them and they should at least be proactive in something
> simple like having water on hand. It's not rocket science.
>



we are always told that in time of emergency, don't count on any help for
three days. And this is not the boonies, it is civilization. In a real
emergency, there will be a need that will outstrip the available aid, until
things get sorted out and some systems come back on line allowing the aid to
go further.


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On 6/28/2014 11:41 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
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>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>>> On 6/28/2014 12:54 PM, Janet wrote:
>>>> Surely your water supply co will deliver bottled water, or a shared
>>>> bowser?
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>> That's a term that skated right over my head. What on earth is a
>>> shared bowser?
>>>

>>
>> a bowser is a water tender.

>
> What in the world is a water tender?


A water truck.

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"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
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> On 6/28/2014 11:41 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Pico Rico" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 6/28/2014 12:54 PM, Janet wrote:
>>>>> Surely your water supply co will deliver bottled water, or a shared
>>>>> bowser?
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>> That's a term that skated right over my head. What on earth is a
>>>> shared bowser?
>>>>
>>>
>>> a bowser is a water tender.

>>
>> What in the world is a water tender?

>
> A water truck.
>


What the heck is a water truck?

You mean lorrie?


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On 6/29/2014 12:23 PM, Cheri wrote:

> Do they not plan ahead and keep some bottled water on hand for
> emergencies? A population can't always be certain that the government
> will come through for them and they should at least be proactive in
> something simple like having water on hand. It's not rocket science.


After Sandy, we had very widespread power outages and that included
the refineries. Only a few gas stations were open and they struggled
to get enough tankers to keep them supplied. Many people couldn't
even drive to anywhere to get food.

Luckily we had no problems with water, but the point is you
need to have supplies on hand to take care of yourself for
a few days. You just don't know what can happen. Keeping
a day's worth of water, that's just a no brainer.

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"Cheri" > wrote in message
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> "Janet" > wrote in message
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>> It is in remote areas miles from shops, to the housebound, sick,
>> incontinent, bottlefed infants in nappies etc. A water company can't
>> always be certain of repair within the advertised time.
>>
>> Janet UK

>
> Do they not plan ahead and keep some bottled water on hand for
> emergencies? A population can't always be certain that the government will
> come through for them and they should at least be proactive in something
> simple like having water on hand. It's not rocket science.


We keep plenty of water on hand. It would be more than a few days before we
ran out. We can't be the only ones??? We have a genny (which would keep
the freezer going) and portable gas cookers and heaters as well as a good
food store. I suppose too many people rely on government to do everything.
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On 6/29/2014 12:23 PM, Cheri wrote:
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> "Janet" > wrote in message
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>> It is in remote areas miles from shops, to the housebound, sick,
>> incontinent, bottlefed infants in nappies etc. A water company can't
>> always be certain of repair within the advertised time.
>>
>> Janet UK

>
> Do they not plan ahead and keep some bottled water on hand for
> emergencies? A population can't always be certain that the government
> will come through for them and they should at least be proactive in
> something simple like having water on hand. It's not rocket science.
>
> Cheri


The fact that the water main broke wasn't the result of a natural
disaster so no goverment involvement. It was a temporary outage which
was fixed rather quickly. If it had been projected to be off for days
I'm sure the company would have had to do *something*. As it is,
everyone I know around here keeps gallon jugs of potable bottled water
for emergencies.

If someone is truly housebound hopefully they have someone (friend,
neighbor, relative) who will be able to assist. I would hope parents of
infants would have the foresight to keep some bottled water on hand,
too. I'm not sure what incontinence has to do with not having running
water. I could make a joke there but I'll resist. :-)

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On 2014-06-29 9:47 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 6/29/2014 9:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2014-06-29 8:45 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think it's your civic duty to keep emergency supplies on hand for
>>> a couple of days at least. Having the water supply shut down for
>>> one day, inconvenient, yes, but they shouldn't have to supply
>>> drinking water to able bodied adults.
>>>

>>
>> Why not? They are a public utility and hold the monopoly for supplying
>> an important commodity to its consumers. In exchange for the monopoly
>> there should be responsibility. If the system were to break down
>> completely they can't just walk away from it and leave their customers
>> without access to potable water.

>
> I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't have the wherewithall
> to be able to take care of themselves for ONE DAY if there's
> a water situation. Imagine a real emergency.



I feel sorry for them too, but IMO, but that is irrelevant to the public
utility's responsibility to provide the public with its product.

Don't worry about me. I have a well and a cistern. I only run out of
water when there is no electricity to run the pump and pressure system.
In emergencies I can drop pails into the water source and fill them
manually.


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On 2014-06-29 11:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> We all know Earl is hung up on me. The only time he ever posts is to
> inject some nasty comment about me. He's a stalker, plain and simple.


We know what to do with stalkers.


> As for Sheldon, everyone knows he got his knickers in a twist because I
> didn't want him phoning me every day. If he honestly thinks I was
> *ever* hitting on him he's even loonier than I thought.
>


I don't think it is possible for him to be loonier than we thought he was.


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> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:27:22 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> > wrote:
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>>
>>"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>>> It is in remote areas miles from shops, to the housebound, sick,
>>>> incontinent, bottlefed infants in nappies etc. A water company can't
>>>> always be certain of repair within the advertised time.
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>> Do they not plan ahead and keep some bottled water on hand for
>>> emergencies? A population can't always be certain that the government
>>> will
>>> come through for them and they should at least be proactive in something
>>> simple like having water on hand. It's not rocket science.
>>>

>>
>>
>>we are always told that in time of emergency, don't count on any help for
>>three days. And this is not the boonies, it is civilization. In a real
>>emergency, there will be a need that will outstrip the available aid,
>>until
>>things get sorted out and some systems come back on line allowing the aid
>>to
>>go further.
>>

> Well fortunately around here people realise that elderly people have
> enough trouble coping with day to day so they look out for them,
> particularly in times when there is something catastrophic.
>
> What do they do around your place ? Let everyone fall between the
> cracks, perhaps go without, die maybe ? I am sure they take great
> satisfaction in telling "You should have been prepared" !


I don't know what they do for the elderly/special needs folks, but there
seems to be plenty of services for them. This "three day" is just an
announcement for the general public.


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> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:36:02 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> On 6/29/2014 11:52 AM,
wrote:
>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:47:40 -0400, Nancy Young

>>
>>>> I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't have the wherewithall
>>>> to be able to take care of themselves for ONE DAY if there's
>>>> a water situation. Imagine a real emergency.

>>
>>> In that 'anyone' add the old lady I just went and dug out of her
>>> apartment and took to a Walk In Clinic. She is barely able to do
>>> that, I doubt she would cope with a water outage. She is lucky
>>> though that people like me who know she is there would see her
>>> alright, but her daughter in Barbados and son in Ottawa, they can't
>>> get here in time.

>>
>> I do feel sorry for her, just as I said. Even sorrier that
>> she doesn't have some water on hand for emergency situations,
>> and her kids don't make sure she's set up for it.
>>
>>> I can also think of someone who lives near here, 40 year old son with
>>> a diagnosed age of 2, has to be more or less lifted into his
>>> wheelchair, she's not going to cope too easily as she's getting up
>>> there herself.

>>
>> And she doesn't keep water on hand, either. She should probably
>> try to keep some food and water on hand with her situation.


> Should, should, should - it's easy to be righteous.


Righteous? You're okay with them not keeping water on hand
for one day, hope the government comes along with a truck?

No need to be snarky.

nancy

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On 2014-06-29 11:34 AM, sf wrote:
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> > wrote:
>
>> People in the UK are much more used to the system taking care of their
>> needs. We have more of a frontier spirit in the USA.

>
> When it's a country the size of Michigan, I suppose they can grow to
> expect that to happen.
>



Michigan is a bad example to compare in the provision of any types of
social or public services.


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On 6/29/2014 12:44 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 6/29/2014 12:23 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>> Do they not plan ahead and keep some bottled water on hand for
>> emergencies? A population can't always be certain that the government
>> will come through for them and they should at least be proactive in
>> something simple like having water on hand. It's not rocket science.

>
> After Sandy, we had very widespread power outages and that included
> the refineries. Only a few gas stations were open and they struggled
> to get enough tankers to keep them supplied. Many people couldn't
> even drive to anywhere to get food.
>
> Luckily we had no problems with water, but the point is you
> need to have supplies on hand to take care of yourself for
> a few days. You just don't know what can happen. Keeping
> a day's worth of water, that's just a no brainer.
>
> nancy
>
>

I agree 100%. It pays to be proactive because you never know what might
happen. It's also a good idea to keep gas in the tank of your car. I
don't drive a lot but I get itchy if the needle creeps to 1/2 tank. If
I *had* to evacuate, the two-lane route that is Hwy 21 out here would be
bumper-to-bumper, stop and start. Long lines at the few gas stations
out here. No thanks, I'll just keep the tank mostly full.

In the case of a hurricane at least there is some warning. They can't
predict the extent of damage/outages but it's not a total surprise.
Tornados, earthquakes, uh oh. Those things can occur pretty quickly and
without much warning. So yes, you need some emergency supplies. You
need to have a plan. A plan that includes bottles of water.

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>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>>> On 6/28/2014 10:47 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> Earl wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm glad I got my shower before the water main broke. It would have
>>>>>> been awful to be stuck with shampoo in my hair when it ran out. Ugh.
>>>>>
>>>>> What hair?
>>>>
>>>> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
>>>>
>>>> Lotsa dirt going on behind the scene... is she hitting on you too? LOL
>>>>
>>> Assholes, both of you. My hair is down to the middle of my back. It
>>> was
>>> pulled back in a pony tail in that picture. You dickheads need to get a
>>> life, or suck each other off.

>>
>> I don't understand what they are saying is wrong with that picture? You
>> look good to me. They are just being nasty Let us have some pics of
>> them here. I bet you they won't!

>
> Thanks, Ophelia. So I didn't get all dressed up and put on makeup when we
> went out to lunch. Big Flippin Deal.
>
> We all know Earl is hung up on me. The only time he ever posts is to
> inject some nasty comment about me. He's a stalker, plain and simple.
>
> As for Sheldon, everyone knows he got his knickers in a twist because I
> didn't want him phoning me every day. If he honestly thinks I was *ever*
> hitting on him he's even loonier than I thought.


I wouldn't worry. He tried posting your pic once before and didn't get the
response he was hoping for Not sure why it would be any different this
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On 6/29/2014 1:03 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 6/29/2014 12:54 PM, wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:36:02 -0400, Nancy Young
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/29/2014 11:52 AM,
wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:47:40 -0400, Nancy Young
>>>
>>>>> I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't have the wherewithall
>>>>> to be able to take care of themselves for ONE DAY if there's
>>>>> a water situation. Imagine a real emergency.
>>>
>>>> In that 'anyone' add the old lady I just went and dug out of her
>>>> apartment and took to a Walk In Clinic. She is barely able to do
>>>> that, I doubt she would cope with a water outage. She is lucky
>>>> though that people like me who know she is there would see her
>>>> alright, but her daughter in Barbados and son in Ottawa, they can't
>>>> get here in time.
>>>
>>> I do feel sorry for her, just as I said. Even sorrier that
>>> she doesn't have some water on hand for emergency situations,
>>> and her kids don't make sure she's set up for it.
>>>
>>>> I can also think of someone who lives near here, 40 year old son with
>>>> a diagnosed age of 2, has to be more or less lifted into his
>>>> wheelchair, she's not going to cope too easily as she's getting up
>>>> there herself.
>>>
>>> And she doesn't keep water on hand, either. She should probably
>>> try to keep some food and water on hand with her situation.

>
>> Should, should, should - it's easy to be righteous.

>
> Righteous? You're okay with them not keeping water on hand
> for one day, hope the government comes along with a truck?
>
> No need to be snarky.
>
> nancy
>

That was snarky, wasn't it? I think *especially* people in difficult
situations, with mobility issues or whatever, should have bottled water
on hand in case of an emergency. You can't just sit around wringing
your hands and thinking

The *really* righteous one could always bring them a couple of cases or
some gallon jugs of bottled water to stash away in case of emergency.
But apparently while she knows these hardship cases she doesn't think
that makes sense.

Jill


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> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>>> On 6/28/2014 10:47 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> Earl wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm glad I got my shower before the water main broke. It would have
>>>>>> been awful to be stuck with shampoo in my hair when it ran out. Ugh.
>>>>>
>>>>> What hair?
>>>> http://tinypic.com/r/r26wk4/8
>>>>
>>>> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
>>>>
>>>> Lotsa dirt going on behind the scene... is she hitting on you too? LOL
>>>>
>>> Assholes, both of you. My hair is down to the middle of my back. It
>>> was
>>> pulled back in a pony tail in that picture. You dickheads need to get a
>>> life, or suck each other off.

>>
>> I don't understand what they are saying is wrong with that picture? You
>> look good to me. They are just being nasty Let us have some pics of
>> them here. I bet you they won't!

>
> Yes, it's always those that that don't post current pics of themselves
> that have the most unflattering things to say about someone elses pics.
> Hmmmmm, I wonder why that is so? Actually, I don't wonder, I know that
> they're probably hideous. LOL I think Jill looks just fine too, and it's
> obvious her hair is pulled back. FO E&S


I suspect I shouldn't ask what FO E&S means <g>


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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 6/29/2014 1:03 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 6/29/2014 12:54 PM, wrote:
>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:36:02 -0400, Nancy Young
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/29/2014 11:52 AM,
wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:47:40 -0400, Nancy Young
>>>>
>>>>>> I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't have the wherewithall
>>>>>> to be able to take care of themselves for ONE DAY if there's
>>>>>> a water situation. Imagine a real emergency.
>>>>
>>>>> In that 'anyone' add the old lady I just went and dug out of her
>>>>> apartment and took to a Walk In Clinic. She is barely able to do
>>>>> that, I doubt she would cope with a water outage. She is lucky
>>>>> though that people like me who know she is there would see her
>>>>> alright, but her daughter in Barbados and son in Ottawa, they can't
>>>>> get here in time.
>>>>
>>>> I do feel sorry for her, just as I said. Even sorrier that
>>>> she doesn't have some water on hand for emergency situations,
>>>> and her kids don't make sure she's set up for it.
>>>>
>>>>> I can also think of someone who lives near here, 40 year old son with
>>>>> a diagnosed age of 2, has to be more or less lifted into his
>>>>> wheelchair, she's not going to cope too easily as she's getting up
>>>>> there herself.
>>>>
>>>> And she doesn't keep water on hand, either. She should probably
>>>> try to keep some food and water on hand with her situation.

>>
>>> Should, should, should - it's easy to be righteous.

>>
>> Righteous? You're okay with them not keeping water on hand
>> for one day, hope the government comes along with a truck?
>>
>> No need to be snarky.
>>
>> nancy
>>

> That was snarky, wasn't it? I think *especially* people in difficult
> situations, with mobility issues or whatever, should have bottled water on
> hand in case of an emergency. You can't just sit around wringing your
> hands and thinking
>
> The *really* righteous one could always bring them a couple of cases or
> some gallon jugs of bottled water to stash away in case of emergency. But
> apparently while she knows these hardship cases she doesn't think that
> makes sense.


From what I read she takes care of them!
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On 6/29/2014 1:03 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:59:26 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/29/2014 12:36 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 6/29/2014 11:52 AM,
wrote:
>>>
>>>> In that 'anyone' add the old lady I just went and dug out of her
>>>> apartment and took to a Walk In Clinic. She is barely able to do
>>>> that, I doubt she would cope with a water outage. She is lucky
>>>> though that people like me who know she is there would see her
>>>> alright, but her daughter in Barbados and son in Ottawa, they can't
>>>> get here in time.
>>>
>>> I do feel sorry for her, just as I said. Even sorrier that
>>> she doesn't have some water on hand for emergency situations,
>>> and her kids don't make sure she's set up for it.
>>>
>>>> I can also think of someone who lives near here, 40 year old son with
>>>> a diagnosed age of 2, has to be more or less lifted into his
>>>> wheelchair, she's not going to cope too easily as she's getting up
>>>> there herself.
>>>
>>> And she doesn't keep water on hand, either. She should probably
>>> try to keep some food and water on hand with her situation.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>>

>> It's a fact some people aren't able to take care of themselves. It's
>> still common sense to keep some emergency supplies on hand. Especially
>> water.
>>
>> Jill

>
> You and Nancy can come back and tell us how prepared you are at age
> 98.
>

I'm not likely to live to 98.

> Do you two ever happen to come in contact with elderly people ? Maybe
> you just live in your cloud land.


Ha! Do we ever come in contact. I live in a golf community where the
average residents are a lot older than I am. Surprise! They all have
emergency supplies.

Nancy's mother is in her 80's. She's very self-sufficient. But Nancy
and her brothers also make sure she has things like bottled water.
What's the problem with an ounce of prevention?

> You both sound terribly self-centred.
>

We're self-centered because we believe in planning for emergencies?
That's a ridiculous statement.

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On 2014-06-29 1:09 PM, jmcquown wrote:
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> I agree 100%. It pays to be proactive because you never know what might
> happen. It's also a good idea to keep gas in the tank of your car. I
> don't drive a lot but I get itchy if the needle creeps to 1/2 tank. If
> I *had* to evacuate, the two-lane route that is Hwy 21 out here would be
> bumper-to-bumper, stop and start. Long lines at the few gas stations
> out here. No thanks, I'll just keep the tank mostly full.


If we ever had to evacuate we would have to take my car because I keep
it topped up. My wife's is more often bouncing on empty. If there is an
emergency evacuation the gas stations might be closed while the staff
evacuates. They may not have power for the gas pumps, and they may be
out of gas because the smart people already filled up in advance and the
not so smart ones are all scooping up whatever is left.... and at a
higher price.
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On 6/29/2014 1:35 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> We're self-centered because we believe in planning for emergencies?
> That's a ridiculous statement.


I mean, who argues that people shouldn't have extra water,
especially if they are someone with problems even if there
aren't emergency situations.

Okey dokey, then. The thread has jumped the shark.

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On 6/29/2014 1:27 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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> "jmcquown" > wrote


>> http://i62.tinypic.com/opzcpv.jpg
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>> Still no makeup, but hey, I do have hair.

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> No, no .. that could be a wig attached to the hat ... ;-)


ooo, let me check, did she put in her dentures for this picture??

(laugh)

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On 6/29/2014 1:26 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> On 6/29/2014 1:03 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 6/29/2014 12:54 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:36:02 -0400, Nancy Young
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/29/2014 11:52 AM,
wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:47:40 -0400, Nancy Young
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't have the wherewithall
>>>>>>> to be able to take care of themselves for ONE DAY if there's
>>>>>>> a water situation. Imagine a real emergency.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In that 'anyone' add the old lady I just went and dug out of her
>>>>>> apartment and took to a Walk In Clinic. She is barely able to do
>>>>>> that, I doubt she would cope with a water outage. She is lucky
>>>>>> though that people like me who know she is there would see her
>>>>>> alright, but her daughter in Barbados and son in Ottawa, they can't
>>>>>> get here in time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do feel sorry for her, just as I said. Even sorrier that
>>>>> she doesn't have some water on hand for emergency situations,
>>>>> and her kids don't make sure she's set up for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can also think of someone who lives near here, 40 year old son with
>>>>>> a diagnosed age of 2, has to be more or less lifted into his
>>>>>> wheelchair, she's not going to cope too easily as she's getting up
>>>>>> there herself.
>>>>>
>>>>> And she doesn't keep water on hand, either. She should probably
>>>>> try to keep some food and water on hand with her situation.
>>>
>>>> Should, should, should - it's easy to be righteous.
>>>
>>> Righteous? You're okay with them not keeping water on hand
>>> for one day, hope the government comes along with a truck?
>>>
>>> No need to be snarky.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>>

>> That was snarky, wasn't it? I think *especially* people in difficult
>> situations, with mobility issues or whatever, should have bottled
>> water on hand in case of an emergency. You can't just sit around
>> wringing your hands and thinking
>>
>> The *really* righteous one could always bring them a couple of cases
>> or some gallon jugs of bottled water to stash away in case of
>> emergency. But apparently while she knows these hardship cases she
>> doesn't think that makes sense.

>
> From what I read she takes care of them!


Yet she doesn't think it's a good idea to keep extra bottled water and
other emergency supplies on hand? Why wait and see if someone else (the
water company, whatever) brings it? There is nothing wrong with being
proactive.

Jill
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