On 7/3/2014 1:57 AM, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> No matter, our daughter was born healthy -
>> and that's when our troubles really began. :-)
>
> Daughters are great. Most times the real trouble begins once they
> leave elementary school and start into the teen years. oh man!
>

The early teen years for girls will usually be accompanied with a deep
drop in self-esteem. This creates all manner of havoc. My guess is that
something about female hormones have a major role in this. I'm no doctor
so that's about as far as I want to get into the subject.

On 7/3/2014 2:22 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> t...
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible?
>>>
>>> It is?
>>
>> It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free from the
>> NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere.
>
> It's not usually free here.

My assumption is that it will be sooner or later. Pre- and postnatal
care is pretty expensive. Family planning services are relatively cheap
in comparison. That's my guess anyway.

In article >, lid
says...
>

> The early teen years for girls will usually be accompanied with a deep
> drop in self-esteem.

Damn, I missed out. This doesn't bode well..

Janet UK

On 7/3/2014 3:28 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-07-03 7:54 AM, Gary wrote:
>
>
> I have a number of allergy issues, most of which are somewhat seasonal.
> I take (generic) Benedryl for them, but I only take them at night. They
> make me very tired and I sleep an extra hour or two in the morning, and
> I feel groggy when I eventually get up. My son does not like to take
> antihistamines because of the drowsiness, and the no doze variety have
> stimulants to counteract the drowsiness.
>

Diphenhydramine HCl, i.e., generic Benedryl is an effective sleep aid
and is used as such in clinical settings. It's dirt cheap too.

In article >,
says...
>
> Janet wrote:
> >
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > Janet wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article >,
> > > > says...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible?
> > > > >
> > > > > It is?
> > > >
> > > > It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free from the
> > > > NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere.
> > > >
> > > > Janet UK
> > >
> > > Unfortunately that leaves the native population declining
> >
> > What "natives" would they be? Britain is and always has been, a nation
> > of enterprising immigrants.
> >
> > while the
> > > dregs of the third world you let in breed like cockroaches.
> >
> > When Britain's empire owned a third of the world we used to export
> > the dregs to America, and look how they turned out.
> >
> > Janet UK
>
> Keep laughing, I've been to the UK, I've seen the Cairo-esque slums
> you've got there.

Evidently you've never been to Cairo. Or Detroit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHgqPvWzKDc

Janet

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>Gary wrote:
>
>> You don't need your insurance plan to buy OTC drugs. they are cheap
>> enough.
>
>One of my wife's prescriptions had a $10 co-pay and when the OTC became
>available it went to $29.

True... when meds go OTC they typically cost significantly more than
the co-pay when it was Rx. And with most once they go OTC the generic
version ceases to exist so your doc can't write a Rx

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-07-03 10:03 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
>>> I have a number of allergy issues, most of which are somewhat seasonal.
>>> I take (generic) Benedryl for them, but I only take them at night. They
>>> make me very tired and I sleep an extra hour or two in the morning, and
>>> I feel groggy when I eventually get up. My son does not like to take
>>> antihistamines because of the drowsiness, and the no doze variety have
>>> stimulants to counteract the drowsiness.
>>
>> my dog takes generic Benedryl a couple time a day upon vet's
>> recommendation.
>>
> Mine too. He has allergies that cause skin problems. I have saved a bundle
> thins year by giving him people Benedryl instead of the veterinary
> antihistamines that look exactly the same but cost about 10 times as much.
> Wow, have they ever slowed him down.

Mine too.

Cheri

On 7/3/2014 7:05 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, lid
> says...
>>
>
>> The early teen years for girls will usually be accompanied with a deep
>> drop in self-esteem.
>
> Damn, I missed out. This doesn't bode well..
>
> Janet UK
>

You were one of the lucky ones. I sure wish that I could have prevented
my daughter from falling into that well. We knew it was coming but there
seemed to be nothing we could do. Possibly an all-girls school might
have helped. We'll never know.

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > Janet wrote:
> > >
> > > In article >,
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > Janet wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In article >,
> > > > > says...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is?
> > > > >
> > > > > It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free from the
> > > > > NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > Janet UK
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately that leaves the native population declining
> > >
> > > What "natives" would they be? Britain is and always has been, a nation
> > > of enterprising immigrants.
> > >
> > > while the
> > > > dregs of the third world you let in breed like cockroaches.
> > >
> > > When Britain's empire owned a third of the world we used to export
> > > the dregs to America, and look how they turned out.
> > >
> > > Janet UK
> >
> > Keep laughing, I've been to the UK, I've seen the Cairo-esque slums
> > you've got there.
>
> Evidently you've never been to Cairo. Or Detroit
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHgqPvWzKDc
>
> Janet

I spent two weeks in Egypt, including Cairo. Yes, the US has a
Cairo-esque slum in Michigan, however relative to the size and
population of the US it is incredibly tiny, unlike the ones you have
festering in the UK.

On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 22:07:27 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>> On 7/2/2014 10:07 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You don't need your insurance plan to buy OTC drugs. they are cheap
>>> enough.
>>>
>>> G.
>>>
>>
>> One of my wife's prescriptions had a $10 co-pay and when the OTC became
>> available it went to $29.
>
>Yes, when they put things like Prevacid OTC, the price is high like $25.00
>for a month supply, then the insurance company doesn't pay at all and the
>patient pays full price. Nothing cheap about it comparaed to when covered by
>insurance.

Same happened to me with Prilosec OTC so for over a rear I was buying
it at a greatly inflated price, plus since I was precribed two tablets
a day it wasn't always easy to find a large supply in any one store so
I was always hunting around to buy what I could. And then a new
doctor wrote me an Rx for the generic (Omeprazole), a small capsule, I
get a 90 day supply for a $10 co-pay.

On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 20:01:36 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> On 7/2/2014 4:56 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 15:30:59 -1000, dsi1
> >
> >> My guess is that pregnancy poses a greater risk for a woman than any
> >> little ole pill. It may cause a chronic condition that pretty much takes
> >> over your life for 18 to 24 years. Of course, this assumes that you
> >> survive the pregnancy. Our last pregnancy nearly killed my wife.
> >
> > I almost died from one too.
> >
> My wife was sick for most of the first trimester. She couldn't eat a
> thing and she lived on a white fluid pumped into her arm. She wore a
> monitor and we uploaded the data to a place in Texas daily. It was
> really touch and go for a while. When it was over, we knew we were
> through with making babies. No matter, our daughter was born healthy -
> and that's when our troubles really began. :-)

Mine was an ectopic pregnancy. The fallopian tube burst and I was
bleeding internally. It was so painful, I couldn't stand up
straight. Luckily, it happened just a couple of hours before I was
due to get on an airplane. Can't imagine the logistical mess it would
have been had it happened elsewhere.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:17:30 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible?
> >
> > It is?
>
> It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free from the
> NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere.
>
Are they by prescription or over the counter?

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 16:52:46 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> When Britain's empire owned a third of the world we used to export
> the dregs to America,

and Australia

> and look how they turned out.

Given his attitude and the "go home" attitude of those who have made
"the news" recently, they didn't turn out well at all.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:17:30 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>>
>> On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible?
>>
>> It is?
>
> It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free from the
>NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere.

It's not free... someone is paying for that medication... the tax
payers. You want free birth control, 100% effective and no side
effects, swallow! Most women much prefer receiving oral sex anyway.

sf wrote:
>
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 16:52:46 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> > When Britain's empire owned a third of the world we used to export
> > the dregs to America,
>
> and Australia
>
> > and look how they turned out.
>
> Given his attitude and the "go home" attitude of those who have made
> "the news" recently, they didn't turn out well at all.

The is no "go home" attitude, that is a fabrication of the "amnesty"
crowd. The attitude is "come here legally or don't come at all".

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:17:30 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > says...
> > >
> > > On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible?
> > >
> > > It is?
> >
> > It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free from the
> > NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere.
> >
> Are they by prescription or over the counter?

Depends what kind. No prescription needed for external barrier methods
but contraceptive pills, injections, IUDs are all either prescribed or
medically fitted.

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/contraception-
guide/Pages/contraception.aspx

Janet UK

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
news
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 22:07:27 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 7/2/2014 10:07 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You don't need your insurance plan to buy OTC drugs. they are cheap
>>>> enough.
>>>>
>>>> G.
>>>>
>>>
>>> One of my wife's prescriptions had a $10 co-pay and when the OTC became
>>> available it went to $29.
>>
>>Yes, when they put things like Prevacid OTC, the price is high like $25.00
>>for a month supply, then the insurance company doesn't pay at all and the
>>patient pays full price. Nothing cheap about it comparaed to when covered
>>by
>>insurance.
>
> Same happened to me with Prilosec OTC so for over a rear I was buying
> it at a greatly inflated price, plus since I was precribed two tablets
> a day it wasn't always easy to find a large supply in any one store so
> I was always hunting around to buy what I could. And then a new
> doctor wrote me an Rx for the generic (Omeprazole), a small capsule, I
> get a 90 day supply for a $10 co-pay.

Yes, I know others that have it done that way too. It's 20mg so only taking
one pill now, as opposed to two.

Cheri

On 7/3/2014 8:18 AM, wrote:

> There was an interesting item on 60 Minutes recently about drug
> dosages, seems nothing had been tested to see if a different dose was
> needed by women, and we are fifty percent of the population!
>

Well, you fought for equal rights!

Weight may also be a factor. Alcohol affect people differently by wight,
I image some medications may also.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...

> This certainly does not make my horny
> http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-be-Disruptors

Would a picture of you make her horny? Just askin. ;-)

Cheri

On 7/2/2014 10:08 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
> On 7/2/2014 8:05 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Alan Holbrook" > wrote in message
>> . 30...
>
>>> You want free birth control? Hang a picture of Nancy Pelosi in your
>>> bedroom.
>>
>> Well, thank you for that! I just looked up her image as I didn't know
>> who she was. I was going to eat soon. Was...
>
> That's absurd, Julie! First because I can't believe you don't know who
> Nancy Pelosi is. Second Nancy Pelosi is an attractive woman who's been
> photographed many times, frequently in some not-so-flattering poses.
>

This certainly does not make my horny
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-be-Disruptors

On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 09:19:21 -0300, wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 07:57:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>> No matter, our daughter was born healthy -
>>> and that's when our troubles really began. :-)
>>
>>Daughters are great. Most times the real trouble begins once they
>>leave elementary school and start into the teen years. oh man!
>
>Are you suggesting that teen boys are somehow less trouble ?

Generally, yes.

In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
>
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:17:30 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> >says...
> >>
> >> On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible?
> >>
> >> It is?
> >
> > It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free from the
> >NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere.
>
> It's not free... someone is paying for that medication...

Of course. But the point is it's free at the point of provision; which
means the recipient does not need to be a taxpayer. It seems to me the
very poorest and the unemployed and those who are not financially
independent to support a child, are the very people most in need of free
contraception.

Or perhaps you think everybody who stays home all day because they
haven't got a job, is just like you and never has sex :-)

Janet UK

In article >,
says...

> This certainly does not make my horny
> http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-be-Disruptors

Lol. Nancy doesn't look as if she cares. Just a bit surprised how
very teeny tiny you are..

:-)

Janet UK

On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 07:16:43 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> On 7/3/2014 7:05 AM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >, lid
> > says...
> >>
> >
> >> The early teen years for girls will usually be accompanied with a deep
> >> drop in self-esteem.
> >
> > Damn, I missed out. This doesn't bode well..
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
>
> You were one of the lucky ones. I sure wish that I could have prevented
> my daughter from falling into that well. We knew it was coming but there
> seemed to be nothing we could do. Possibly an all-girls school might
> have helped. We'll never know.

I was thinking I missed out too and then you mentioned an all girls
school, which was where mine went for grades 6-7-8. Wheew! Looks
like I dodged a bullet unknowingly.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Thursday, July 3, 2014 7:43:10 AM UTC-10, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:17:30 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>
>
> >In article >,
>
> >says...
>
> >>
>
> >> On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp
>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible?
>
> >>
>
> >> It is?
>
> >
>
> > It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free from the
>
> >NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere.
>
>
>
> It's not free... someone is paying for that medication... the tax
>
> payers. You want free birth control, 100% effective and no side
>
> effects, swallow! Most women much prefer receiving oral sex anyway.

In the long run, society reaps the benifits of not having unwanted children being born. Americans tend to be fairly short-sighted.

On Thursday, July 3, 2014 8:11:44 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 06:50:26 -1000, dsi1
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> >Being pregnant is scary and hazardous to your health. Nobody could fault
>
> >you for having only one child. Our first was pretty easy. The second was
>
> >a little harder. The third was the killer. That would have made any
>
> >couple stop having kids. Funny how it all turns out.
>
>
>
> My grandmother used to say "If the wife had the first and the husband
>
> had the second, there might be a third but there would never be a
>
> fourth"

Grannie knows best. Right now, I'm probably 3/4 wise as a grandpa. :-)

On Thursday, July 3, 2014 8:58:24 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 07:16:43 -1000, dsi1
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 7/3/2014 7:05 AM, Janet wrote:
>
> > > In article >, lid
>
> > > says...
>
> > >>
>
> > >
>
> > >> The early teen years for girls will usually be accompanied with a deep
>
> > >> drop in self-esteem.
>
> > >
>
> > > Damn, I missed out. This doesn't bode well..
>
> > >
>
> > > Janet UK
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > You were one of the lucky ones. I sure wish that I could have prevented
>
> > my daughter from falling into that well. We knew it was coming but there
>
> > seemed to be nothing we could do. Possibly an all-girls school might
>
> > have helped. We'll never know.
>
>
>
> I was thinking I missed out too and then you mentioned an all girls
>
> school, which was where mine went for grades 6-7-8. Wheew! Looks
>
> like I dodged a bullet unknowingly.
>

Boy, I wish we did that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjJQBjWYDTs

>
>
> --
>
> All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:07:25 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

> Boy, I wish we did that.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjJQBjWYDTs

I'm pretty damn proud of my DD. She has worked at Google for over 10
years and you know that company culture in Silicon Valley is "if
you're not moving up, then you're moving out".

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:
snip
>
>In the long run, society reaps the benifits of not having unwanted children being born. Americans tend to be fairly short-sighted.

Not true. A group of Americans are short-sighted.
Janet US

On 03/07/2014 1:37 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 14:50:15 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 09:19:21 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 07:57:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No matter, our daughter was born healthy -
>>>>> and that's when our troubles really began. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Daughters are great. Most times the real trouble begins once they
>>>> leave elementary school and start into the teen years. oh man!
>>>
>>> Are you suggesting that teen boys are somehow less trouble ?
>>
>> Generally, yes.
>
> Hah! Shows how much you know!
>
At least they don't come home pregnant!!
Graham

On Thursday, July 3, 2014 12:59:46 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:07:25 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Boy, I wish we did that.
>
> >
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjJQBjWYDTs
>
>
>
> I'm pretty damn proud of my DD. She has worked at Google for over 10
>
> years and you know that company culture in Silicon Valley is "if
>
> you're not moving up, then you're moving out".
>
>
>
> --
>
> All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.



Very impressive, very proud-worthy. Just getting an interview at Google is worthy of a mention on your CV.

Nellie

On 7/3/2014 9:59 AM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:07:25 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> Boy, I wish we did that.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjJQBjWYDTs
>
> I'm pretty damn proud of my DD. She has worked at Google for over 10
> years and you know that company culture in Silicon Valley is "if
> you're not moving up, then you're moving out".
>

That's great!

"Pete C." > wrote in
om:

>> It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available
>> free from the
>> NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> Unfortunately that leaves the native population declining
> while the dregs of the third world you let in breed like
> cockroaches.

Ya, THAT's the problem...:-|

--

Socialism never took root in America because the
poor there see themselves not as an exploited
proletariat but as temporarily embarassed
millionaires. - John Steinbeck

On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 13:33:03 -0700 (PDT), Nellie >
wrote:

> Very impressive, very proud-worthy. Just getting an interview at Google is worthy of a mention on your CV.

Both kids were called. Son didn't want to work there, so he didn't
follow through. Didn't know just getting an interview was worthy of a
mention. I should tell him.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

Janet > wrote in
t:

> When Britain's empire owned a third of the world we used
> to export the dregs to America, and look how they turned out.

As my stepson's Danish great aunt is reported to have said of
Americans: "It's not our best people we sent over there..."

:-)

--
Socialism never took root in America because the
poor there see themselves not as an exploited
proletariat but as temporarily embarassed
millionaires. - John Steinbeck

On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 14:29:40 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 03/07/2014 1:37 PM, wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 14:50:15 -0400, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 09:19:21 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 07:57:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No matter, our daughter was born healthy -
>>>>>> and that's when our troubles really began. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Daughters are great. Most times the real trouble begins once they
>>>>> leave elementary school and start into the teen years. oh man!
>>>>
>>>> Are you suggesting that teen boys are somehow less trouble ?
>>>
>>> Generally, yes.
>>
>> Hah! Shows how much you know!
>>
>At least they don't come home pregnant!!

Not yet, anyway. They're working on it though...

On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 15:18:08 -0500, Sky >
wrote:

> Sky, who believes it's a civic duty to always cast informed vote(s)!
>
Remember the old Chicago motto: Vote early and vote often!

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

"Pete C." > wrote in
om:

> I spent two weeks in Egypt, including Cairo. Yes, the US has a
> Cairo-esque slum in Michigan, however relative to the size and
> population of the US it is incredibly tiny, unlike the ones
> you have festering in the UK.

Ok, now don't get me wrong, but you sound like a complete racist
****. Maybe you don't realize that. Just thought I'd give you a
heads up.

--

Socialism never took root in America because the
poor there see themselves not as an exploited
proletariat but as temporarily embarassed
millionaires. - John Steinbeck

On 7/3/2014 10:10 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
> snip
>>
>> In the long run, society reaps the benifits of not having unwanted children being born. Americans tend to be fairly short-sighted.
>
> Not true. A group of Americans are short-sighted.
> Janet US
>

This would be true technically although it doesn't quite capture the
state of things.

dsi1 > wrote in
:

> Being pregnant is scary and hazardous to your health. Nobody
> could fault you for having only one child. Our first was
> pretty easy. The second was a little harder. The third was the
> killer. That would have made any couple stop having kids.
> Funny how it all turns out.

My grandmother had fourteen children. Luckily my grandparents were
well off so all the children lived and made it to adulthood.

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Socialism never took root in America because the
poor there see themselves not as an exploited
proletariat but as temporarily embarassed
millionaires. - John Steinbeck