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On 7/3/2014 10:56 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
> dsi1 > wrote in > : > >> Being pregnant is scary and hazardous to your health. Nobody >> could fault you for having only one child. Our first was >> pretty easy. The second was a little harder. The third was the >> killer. That would have made any couple stop having kids. >> Funny how it all turns out. > > My grandmother had fourteen children. Luckily my grandparents were > well off so all the children lived and made it to adulthood. > My grandmom had a big litter too. That's the way they rolled back in those days. People that practice this today are considered freaks. |
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On Thursday, July 3, 2014 1:52:22 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 13:33:03 -0700 (PDT), Nellie > > > wrote: > > > > > Very impressive, very proud-worthy. Just getting an interview at Google is worthy of a mention on your CV. > > > > Both kids were called. Son didn't want to work there, so he didn't > > follow through. Didn't know just getting an interview was worthy of a > > mention. I should tell him. ![]() > > > > -- > > All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt. Heh, my comment is a bit of hyperbole. My son did some contract work for them. He is multi-lingual and they wanted him to check potential foreign websites for appropriate comment. He said it was extremely tedious work. Have you been on the campus? We were allowed on last year for another purpose. The security is unbelievable, they actually escorted us to the rest room, waiting outside the door. It is a fabulous place, also a photographer's bonanza (just the outside though) Nellie |
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On 03/07/2014 3:13 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 7/3/2014 10:56 AM, Michel Boucher wrote: >> dsi1 > wrote in >> : >> >>> Being pregnant is scary and hazardous to your health. Nobody >>> could fault you for having only one child. Our first was >>> pretty easy. The second was a little harder. The third was the >>> killer. That would have made any couple stop having kids. >>> Funny how it all turns out. >> >> My grandmother had fourteen children. Luckily my grandparents were >> well off so all the children lived and made it to adulthood. >> > > My grandmom had a big litter too. That's the way they rolled back in > those days. People that practice this today are considered freaks. Frequently religious freaks! Graham |
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dsi1 wrote:
>lucreti.fl.it wrote: >>dsi1 wrote: >> >> >Being pregnant is scary and hazardous to your health. Nobody could fault >> >you for having only one child. Our first was pretty easy. The second was >> >a little harder. The third was the killer. That would have made any >> >couple stop having kids. Funny how it all turns out. >> My grandmother used to say "If the wife had the first and the husband >> had the second, there might be a third but there would never be a >> fourth" ![]() > >Grannie knows best. Right now, I'm probably 3/4 wise as a grandpa. :-) You're a guy... reading your posts all this time I always figured you for a no sense of humor whatsoever bitter/angry ****... you could be my ex. I'm getting tired of fixing all yoose newbie's double/triple/quadruple, etc. spacing... get a real newsreader yoose POS no account cheapo ****! |
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![]() Janet Bostwick wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > > wrote: > snip > > > >In the long run, society reaps the benifits of not having unwanted children being born. Americans tend to be fairly short-sighted. > > Not true. A group of Americans are short-sighted. Yes, the short sighted and out of touch with reality occupy the 15-20% in the "left" and "right" wings. the 60-70% majority of Americans are solidly in the political center and much less short sighted or out of touch. Unfortunately the political apathy of that centrist majority has led us to a point where the extremists have taken control of the only two viable political parties, leaving the center to choose between two candidates that both are terrible. |
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![]() Michel Boucher wrote: > > "Pete C." > wrote in > om: > > > I spent two weeks in Egypt, including Cairo. Yes, the US has a > > Cairo-esque slum in Michigan, however relative to the size and > > population of the US it is incredibly tiny, unlike the ones > > you have festering in the UK. > > Ok, now don't get me wrong, but you sound like a complete racist > ****. Maybe you don't realize that. Just thought I'd give you a > heads up. There is nothing racist about pointing out that there are third world slums appearing in the UK. That is a comment on culture and behavior, not race. Indeed some of the third world slums in other parts of europe are pretty white, yet they are still third world slums that have been allowed to form in what should be first world countries. It's pretty pathetic how those on the left have taken to calling anyone who is not an apologist for bad and criminal behavior racist. They seem to have no concept of what racism actually means. |
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![]() wrote: > > On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 11:15:34 -0500, "Pete C." > > wrote: > > > > >Janet wrote: > >> > >> In article >, > >> says... > >> > > >> > Janet wrote: > >> > > > >> > > In article >, > >> > > says... > >> > > > > >> > > > On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible? > >> > > > > >> > > > It is? > >> > > > >> > > It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free from the > >> > > NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere. > >> > > > >> > > Janet UK > >> > > >> > Unfortunately that leaves the native population declining > >> > >> What "natives" would they be? Britain is and always has been, a nation > >> of enterprising immigrants. > >> > >> while the > >> > dregs of the third world you let in breed like cockroaches. > >> > >> When Britain's empire owned a third of the world we used to export > >> the dregs to America, and look how they turned out. > >> > >> Janet UK > > > >Keep laughing, I've been to the UK, I've seen the Cairo-esque slums > >you've got there. The US is far, far better off than your imploded > >empire. > > Wow and you don't see the similarities in the USA right now ?? With the exception of a couple very small areas in the US, absolutely not. Those who try to claim there are, or that there is huge poverty, or tons of racism or "gun crime" have not the slightest clue what they are talking about. Only those who both live in the US and have traveled it extensively have a real concept of what the US is actually like. The reality is the US is both huge and diverse and the 50 US states + territories are more properly compared to the whole of Europe and all the different countries there since each US state is decidedly different from the rest. |
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On Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:53:57 AM UTC-10, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > >lucreti.fl.it wrote: > > >>dsi1 wrote: > > >> > > >> >Being pregnant is scary and hazardous to your health. Nobody could fault > > >> >you for having only one child. Our first was pretty easy. The second was > > >> >a little harder. The third was the killer. That would have made any > > >> >couple stop having kids. Funny how it all turns out. > > >> My grandmother used to say "If the wife had the first and the husband > > >> had the second, there might be a third but there would never be a > > >> fourth" ![]() > > > > > >Grannie knows best. Right now, I'm probably 3/4 wise as a grandpa. :-) > > > > You're a guy... reading your posts all this time I always figured you > > for a no sense of humor whatsoever bitter/angry ****... you could be > > my ex. > > I'm getting tired of fixing all yoose newbie's > > double/triple/quadruple, etc. spacing... get a real newsreader yoose > > POS no account cheapo ****! Drinking already? Yoose guys start early! Yoose guys think your so cool with your HHTP - I Google Group in your general direction! Fffpppttt! :-) |
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On Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:52:30 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> On 03/07/2014 3:13 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > > On 7/3/2014 10:56 AM, Michel Boucher wrote: > > >> dsi1 > wrote in > > >> : > > >> > > >>> Being pregnant is scary and hazardous to your health. Nobody > > >>> could fault you for having only one child. Our first was > > >>> pretty easy. The second was a little harder. The third was the > > >>> killer. That would have made any couple stop having kids. > > >>> Funny how it all turns out. > > >> > > >> My grandmother had fourteen children. Luckily my grandparents were > > >> well off so all the children lived and made it to adulthood. > > >> > > > > > > My grandmom had a big litter too. That's the way they rolled back in > > > those days. People that practice this today are considered freaks. > > > > Frequently religious freaks! > > Graham We don't talk about that. |
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 19:51:24 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>In article >, gravesend10 says... >> >> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:17:30 +0100, Janet > wrote: >> >> >In article >, >> >says... >> >> >> >> On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible? >> >> >> >> It is? >> > >> > It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free from the >> >NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere. >> >> It's not free... someone is paying for that medication... > > Of course. But the point is it's free at the point of provision; which >means the recipient does not need to be a taxpayer. It seems to me the >very poorest and the unemployed and those who are not financially >independent to support a child, are the very people most in need of free >contraception. Actually those parasites are most in need of sterilization... and for that I'll gladly allocate my tax dollars. Hey, don't even try to argue, I pay to sterilize my cats for *precisely* the same reasons. People like you are who should be first in line for sterilization, even ahead of a dog or a cat. People who think like you your children should be sterilized at birth. |
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:54:55 -1000, dsi1
> wrote: >On 7/3/2014 10:10 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote: >> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > >> wrote: >> snip >>> >>> In the long run, society reaps the benifits of not having unwanted children being born. Americans tend to be fairly short-sighted. >> >> Not true. A group of Americans are short-sighted. >> Janet US >> > >This would be true technically although it doesn't quite capture the >state of things. I didn't want to start a war. I know the ins and outs. The worst thing that ever happened was to let the ignorant and totally clueless have computers so that they could band together. Janet US |
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In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says... > > On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 19:51:24 +0100, Janet > wrote: > > >In article >, gravesend10 > says... > >> > >> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:17:30 +0100, Janet > wrote: > >> > >> >In article >, > >> >says... > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible? > >> >> > >> >> It is? > >> > > >> > It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free from the > >> >NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere. > >> > >> It's not free... someone is paying for that medication... > > > > Of course. But the point is it's free at the point of provision; which > >means the recipient does not need to be a taxpayer. It seems to me the > >very poorest and the unemployed and those who are not financially > >independent to support a child, are the very people most in need of free > >contraception. > > Actually those parasites are most in need of sterilization... and for > that I'll gladly allocate my tax dollars. Male and female sterilisation is also available to anyone, on the NHS, free at the point of delivery. Janet UK |
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 17:01:18 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote: > >Janet Bostwick wrote: >> >> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > >> wrote: >> snip >> > >> >In the long run, society reaps the benifits of not having unwanted children being born. Americans tend to be fairly short-sighted. >> >> Not true. A group of Americans are short-sighted. > >Yes, the short sighted and out of touch with reality occupy the 15-20% >in the "left" and "right" wings. the 60-70% majority of Americans are >solidly in the political center and much less short sighted or out of >touch. > >Unfortunately the political apathy of that centrist majority has led us >to a point where the extremists have taken control of the only two >viable political parties, leaving the center to choose between two >candidates that both are terrible. We harbor here one of that ilk. Total political apathy and proud of it. It won't squeal until it's Medicare, Medicaid and other social benefits are reduced or eliminated. Janet US |
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On 7/3/2014 12:43 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:54:55 -1000, dsi1 > > wrote: > >> On 7/3/2014 10:10 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote: >>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > >>> wrote: >>> snip >>>> >>>> In the long run, society reaps the benifits of not having unwanted children being born. Americans tend to be fairly short-sighted. >>> >>> Not true. A group of Americans are short-sighted. >>> Janet US >>> >> >> This would be true technically although it doesn't quite capture the >> state of things. > > I didn't want to start a war. I know the ins and outs. The worst > thing that ever happened was to let the ignorant and totally clueless > have computers so that they could band together. > Janet US > The war is over. It's as simple as that. |
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On 7/3/2014 1:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/2/2014 10:08 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote: >> On 7/2/2014 8:05 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "Alan Holbrook" > wrote in message >>> . 30... >> >>>> You want free birth control? Hang a picture of Nancy Pelosi in your >>>> bedroom. >>> >>> Well, thank you for that! I just looked up her image as I didn't know >>> who she was. I was going to eat soon. Was... ![]() >> >> That's absurd, Julie! First because I can't believe you don't know who >> Nancy Pelosi is. Second Nancy Pelosi is an attractive woman who's been >> photographed many times, frequently in some not-so-flattering poses. >> > > This certainly does not make my horny > http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-be-Disruptors > One of her not-so-flattering poses. -- DreadfulBitch I'm a nobody, nobody is perfect, therefore I'm perfect. |
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On 7/3/2014 12:54 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
> On 7/3/2014 1:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 7/2/2014 10:08 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote: >>> On 7/2/2014 8:05 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>>> "Alan Holbrook" > wrote in message >>>> . 30... >>> >>>>> You want free birth control? Hang a picture of Nancy Pelosi in your >>>>> bedroom. >>>> >>>> Well, thank you for that! I just looked up her image as I didn't know >>>> who she was. I was going to eat soon. Was... ![]() >>> >>> That's absurd, Julie! First because I can't believe you don't know who >>> Nancy Pelosi is. Second Nancy Pelosi is an attractive woman who's been >>> photographed many times, frequently in some not-so-flattering poses. >>> >> >> This certainly does not make my horny >> http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-be-Disruptors >> >> > One of her not-so-flattering poses. > It's interesting how they do this. She looks fine and appropriate in videos but a lot of those pictures of her really suck. That's the schtick the news services and a lot of the public have become attached to. I find it boring and repulsive to make fun of a person's appearance and firmly reject all that BS because I am totally awesome! |
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:17:35 -0700 (PDT), Nellie >
wrote: > > > Heh, my comment is a bit of hyperbole. > > My son did some contract work for them. He is multi-lingual and they wanted him to check potential foreign websites for appropriate comment. He said it was extremely tedious work. I'm familiar with that. > > Have you been on the campus? Haven't been inside recently although we have been known to do deliveries - we dropped our granddaughter off a few weeks ago on take your child to work day a few weeks ago. Apparently the campus next to hers has a very nice white tablecloth Indian restaurant (not a cafe) - with waiters and candles on the tables). They need to make a reservation to get seating! She has made noises about taking me there one of these days, but I haven't pushed and it hasn't happened yet. > We were allowed on last year for another purpose. The security is unbelievable, they actually escorted us to the rest room, waiting outside the door. > Sounds more like you were in a high security area full of secrets and stuff. > It is a fabulous place, also a photographer's bonanza (just the outside though) > What cracked me up is the brightly colored bikes used in this movie http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3386009.html are real! DD said they filmed the outside scenes on some university campus back East, but I think they captured the essence of google's campuses. -- All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt. |
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On 7/3/2014 1:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 7/3/2014 12:54 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote: >> On 7/3/2014 1:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> On 7/2/2014 10:08 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote: >>>> On 7/2/2014 8:05 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Alan Holbrook" > wrote in message >>>>> . 30... >>>> >>>>>> You want free birth control? Hang a picture of Nancy Pelosi in your >>>>>> bedroom. >>>>> >>>>> Well, thank you for that! I just looked up her image as I didn't know >>>>> who she was. I was going to eat soon. Was... ![]() >>>> >>>> That's absurd, Julie! First because I can't believe you don't know who >>>> Nancy Pelosi is. Second Nancy Pelosi is an attractive woman who's been >>>> photographed many times, frequently in some not-so-flattering poses. >>>> >>> >>> This certainly does not make my horny >>> http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-be-Disruptors >>> >>> >>> >> One of her not-so-flattering poses. >> > > It's interesting how they do this. She looks fine and appropriate in > videos but a lot of those pictures of her really suck. That's the > schtick the news services and a lot of the public have become attached > to. I find it boring and repulsive to make fun of a person's appearance > and firmly reject all that BS because I am totally awesome! They also did this a lot to GW so evidently, we're a nation of malicious retards. Them thars the breaks. |
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 15:07:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote: >On Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:53:57 AM UTC-10, Brooklyn1 wrote: >> dsi1 wrote: >> >> >lucreti.fl.it wrote: >> >> >>dsi1 wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >Being pregnant is scary and hazardous to your health. Nobody could fault >> >> >> >you for having only one child. Our first was pretty easy. The second was >> >> >> >a little harder. The third was the killer. That would have made any >> >> >> >couple stop having kids. Funny how it all turns out. >> >> >> My grandmother used to say "If the wife had the first and the husband >> >> >> had the second, there might be a third but there would never be a >> >> >> fourth" ![]() >> >> > >> >> >Grannie knows best. Right now, I'm probably 3/4 wise as a grandpa. :-) >> >> >> >> You're a guy... reading your posts all this time I always figured you >> >> for a no sense of humor whatsoever bitter/angry ****... you could be >> >> my ex. >> >> I'm getting tired of fixing all yoose newbie's >> >> double/triple/quadruple, etc. spacing... get a real newsreader yoose >> >> POS no account cheapo ****! > >Drinking already? Yoose guys start early! Yoose guys think your so cool with your HHTP - I Google Group in your general direction! Fffpppttt! :-) No drinking. Get a REAL newsreader, you miserly POS ****. |
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On Thursday, July 3, 2014 4:35:48 PM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 15:07:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > > > wrote: > > > > >On Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:53:57 AM UTC-10, Brooklyn1 wrote: > > >> dsi1 wrote: > > >> > > >> >lucreti.fl.it wrote: > > >> > > >> >>dsi1 wrote: > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >Being pregnant is scary and hazardous to your health. Nobody could fault > > >> > > >> >> >you for having only one child. Our first was pretty easy. The second was > > >> > > >> >> >a little harder. The third was the killer. That would have made any > > >> > > >> >> >couple stop having kids. Funny how it all turns out. > > >> > > >> >> My grandmother used to say "If the wife had the first and the husband > > >> > > >> >> had the second, there might be a third but there would never be a > > >> > > >> >> fourth" ![]() > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> >Grannie knows best. Right now, I'm probably 3/4 wise as a grandpa. :-) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> You're a guy... reading your posts all this time I always figured you > > >> > > >> for a no sense of humor whatsoever bitter/angry ****... you could be > > >> > > >> my ex. > > >> > > >> I'm getting tired of fixing all yoose newbie's > > >> > > >> double/triple/quadruple, etc. spacing... get a real newsreader yoose > > >> > > >> POS no account cheapo ****! > > > > > >Drinking already? Yoose guys start early! Yoose guys think your so cool with your HHTP - I Google Group in your general direction! Fffpppttt! :-) > > > > No drinking. Get a REAL newsreader, you miserly POS ****. I know you're not talking to me, but my excuse is I don't have a Tuit. One of these days I will get a round one Nellie |
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On 7/3/2014 2:42 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message > ... > >> This certainly does not make my horny >> http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-be-Disruptors >> > > Would a picture of you make her horny? Just askin. ;-) > > Cheri I would hope not. Works for my wife though, that's what counts. |
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On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 3:39:45 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Below is a ton of verbage/babble signifing nothing... birth control > > has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with medical issues... why it's > > an issue of medical insurance is insane/inane. That the grubbermint > > wants to be involved with peep's ****ing, especially po' folk ****ing > > is ridiculous... birth control is as simple as issuing grubbermint > > dildoes, and/or gals holding a dollar bill between their knees... no > > side effects either. > I'd love to see a video of a butch ******* clubbing you across the face then hand and footcuffing you behind your back, so she could cut off your penis with a serrated knife, and laughinghly taunting you by hitting your face with the thing you'd never have again, while you bled out from your stump. You call me a faggot, when you're the one who is disgusted by women unless they act like submissive little girls who are only allowed to be sexual for your entertainment. Free women with sexual agency offend you, and like so many other Al Bundys, you are a pathetic joke. The sooner that you join Andy, rotting away in a coffin, the better. --Bryan |
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On Thursday, July 3, 2014 1:35:48 PM UTC-10, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2014 15:07:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 > > wrote: > > > > >On Thursday, July 3, 2014 11:53:57 AM UTC-10, Brooklyn1 wrote: > > >> dsi1 wrote: > > >> > > >> >lucreti.fl.it wrote: > > >> > > >> >>dsi1 wrote: > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >Being pregnant is scary and hazardous to your health. Nobody could fault > > >> > > >> >> >you for having only one child. Our first was pretty easy. The second was > > >> > > >> >> >a little harder. The third was the killer. That would have made any > > >> > > >> >> >couple stop having kids. Funny how it all turns out. > > >> > > >> >> My grandmother used to say "If the wife had the first and the husband > > >> > > >> >> had the second, there might be a third but there would never be a > > >> > > >> >> fourth" ![]() > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> >Grannie knows best. Right now, I'm probably 3/4 wise as a grandpa. :-) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> You're a guy... reading your posts all this time I always figured you > > >> > > >> for a no sense of humor whatsoever bitter/angry ****... you could be > > >> > > >> my ex. > > >> > > >> I'm getting tired of fixing all yoose newbie's > > >> > > >> double/triple/quadruple, etc. spacing... get a real newsreader yoose > > >> > > >> POS no account cheapo ****! > > > > > >Drinking already? Yoose guys start early! Yoose guys think your so cool with your HHTP - I Google Group in your general direction! Fffpppttt! :-) > > > > No drinking. Get a REAL newsreader, you miserly POS ****. No doubt you think Win 95 is the bee's knees. Google Groups automatically hides quoting. I don't gotta wade through a bunch of shit to read your shit. Quit yer bitching and step up to a modern interface! :-) |
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![]() "Pete C." > wrote in message om... > > Dave Smith wrote: >> >> On 2014-07-03 7:54 AM, Gary wrote: >> >> > >> > <snip> Thanks Ed. I guess I could have read the warning signs on the >> > box that I have. I was just wondering if anyone here had specific >> > side effects. I avoid all medications when possible and whenever I >> > try a new one (new for me), I always start out with half-doses to >> > begin with. >> > >> >> I have a number of allergy issues, most of which are somewhat seasonal. >> I take (generic) Benedryl for them, but I only take them at night. They >> make me very tired and I sleep an extra hour or two in the morning, and >> I feel groggy when I eventually get up. My son does not like to take >> antihistamines because of the drowsiness, and the no doze variety have >> stimulants to counteract the drowsiness. > > Benedryl causes no drowsiness for me, even at higher than recommended > doses (can't OD on antihistamines anyway), someone else I know is the > same way, the Benedryl works fine on the allergy, but has no apparent > side effects. Benadryl knocks me out for a good 2 days. I would only take it on an emergency basis. They did give it to me in the hospital for an allergic reaction. It didn't knock me out like that there but I was able to get a few hours of sleep. Otherwise I don't think I would have slept at all. |
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![]() "Pete C." > wrote in message om... > > Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Pete C." > wrote in message >> om... >> > >> > Dave Smith wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2014-07-02 8:53 AM, Janet Bostwick wrote: >> >> >> >> > Doesn't that apply to many OTC available today? When I first took >> >> > Claritin many years ago the doctor warned me it was a strong drug >> >> > and >> >> > to watch for side effects. Now claritin is OTC (and considerably >> >> > less >> >> > costly) Presumably the potential side effects are still there. >> >> > >> >> >> >> My wife has bad allergies and used to get prescription antihistamines. >> >> After a few years they would become available OTC and no longer >> >> covered >> >> by her plan. >> > >> > Find a good allergist and get immunotherapy, no drugs, no side effects, >> > just total relief for 90%+ of patients and after a few years of >> > treatment it's usually permanent relief. Most insurance covers it too. >> >> Beg to differ on that. Tried it for the better part of the year. Had to >> stick around for about an hour to make sure that the swelling didn't get >> too >> bad. It was bad. It was itchy. But not bad enough to require the >> Epinephrine. My mom's friend's husband did have to have that though. >> >> With each shot, my allergies grew so severe, I couldn't stand it. They >> would finally calm back down a day or two before I was due for the next >> shot. The shots made me suffer so that I eventually opted to go without. >> My allergies were actually a lot better without the shots and the Dr. >> told >> me there was no guarantee that they would eventually help me at all. > > We already know you're not in the 90%+ that react "normally" to things. That's true but the shots didn't work for my dad either. |
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![]() "Pete C." > wrote in message om... > > Janet wrote: >> >> In article >, >> says... >> > >> > Janet wrote: >> > > >> > > In article >, >> > > >> > > says... >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible? >> > > > >> > > > It is? >> > > >> > > It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free from >> > > the >> > > NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere. >> > > >> > > Janet UK >> > >> > Unfortunately that leaves the native population declining >> >> What "natives" would they be? Britain is and always has been, a nation >> of enterprising immigrants. >> >> while the >> > dregs of the third world you let in breed like cockroaches. >> >> When Britain's empire owned a third of the world we used to export >> the dregs to America, and look how they turned out. >> >> Janet UK > > Keep laughing, I've been to the UK, I've seen the Cairo-esque slums > you've got there. The US is far, far better off than your imploded > empire. Well I haven't been there but from what I've read about various areas there, I have no desire to go there. |
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![]() "Pete C." > wrote in message om... > > Janet wrote: >> >> In article >, >> says... >> > >> > Janet wrote: >> > > >> > > In article >, >> > > says... >> > > > >> > > > Janet wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > In article >, >> > > > > >> > > > > says... >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp >> > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > It is? >> > > > > >> > > > > It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free >> > > > > from the >> > > > > NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere. >> > > > > >> > > > > Janet UK >> > > > >> > > > Unfortunately that leaves the native population declining >> > > >> > > What "natives" would they be? Britain is and always has been, a >> > > nation >> > > of enterprising immigrants. >> > > >> > > while the >> > > > dregs of the third world you let in breed like cockroaches. >> > > >> > > When Britain's empire owned a third of the world we used to >> > > export >> > > the dregs to America, and look how they turned out. >> > > >> > > Janet UK >> > >> > Keep laughing, I've been to the UK, I've seen the Cairo-esque slums >> > you've got there. >> >> Evidently you've never been to Cairo. Or Detroit >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHgqPvWzKDc >> >> Janet > > I spent two weeks in Egypt, including Cairo. Yes, the US has a > Cairo-esque slum in Michigan, however relative to the size and > population of the US it is incredibly tiny, unlike the ones you have > festering in the UK. We do have slums here. I don't know if it's still that way but I was shocked to see some in Washington DC. Shocked not only because it was Washington DC but because AFAIK, we have no slums here at all. The worst I had seen here was some little rental houses that were in very poor shape and a rundown apartment building that is no longer there. I really do think that slums seriously in the minority here as far as housing goes. |
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![]() "Pete C." > wrote in message om... > > wrote: >> >> On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 11:15:34 -0500, "Pete C." > >> wrote: >> >> > >> >Janet wrote: >> >> >> >> In article >, >> >> says... >> >> > >> >> > Janet wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > In article >, >> >> > > >> >> > > says... >> >> > > > >> >> > > > On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp >> >> > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible? >> >> > > > >> >> > > > It is? >> >> > > >> >> > > It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free >> >> > > from the >> >> > > NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere. >> >> > > >> >> > > Janet UK >> >> > >> >> > Unfortunately that leaves the native population declining >> >> >> >> What "natives" would they be? Britain is and always has been, a >> >> nation >> >> of enterprising immigrants. >> >> >> >> while the >> >> > dregs of the third world you let in breed like cockroaches. >> >> >> >> When Britain's empire owned a third of the world we used to export >> >> the dregs to America, and look how they turned out. >> >> >> >> Janet UK >> > >> >Keep laughing, I've been to the UK, I've seen the Cairo-esque slums >> >you've got there. The US is far, far better off than your imploded >> >empire. >> >> Wow and you don't see the similarities in the USA right now ?? > > With the exception of a couple very small areas in the US, absolutely > not. Those who try to claim there are, or that there is huge poverty, or > tons of racism or "gun crime" have not the slightest clue what they are > talking about. Only those who both live in the US and have traveled it > extensively have a real concept of what the US is actually like. The > reality is the US is both huge and diverse and the 50 US states + > territories are more properly compared to the whole of Europe and all > the different countries there since each US state is decidedly different > from the rest. Agree. While we do have a big problem now in this country with a lack of living wage jobs, that doesn't mean that our housing has deteriorated. I know of people who have had to move back in with their parents, or with friends or even someone else who had a spare room to rent. But it's in no way like the days of the past where anyone who had a spare room to rent was renting it out just to put food on the table. And there for sure is no lack of housing in this area. Just perhaps a lack of low income housing. I'm 55 now and in all my life I have only ever seen one area that I could call a slum. That was in Washington DC. I did see a high crime looking and rundown area in Philadelphia but it was in no way as bad as Washington DC was. I am well aware of the problems in Detroit though. However... It does seem that in this country, we don't allow things to stay bad like that. The citizens eventually band together and try to clean things up. From what I have heard/read, NY used to be a pretty bad place. It didn't seem so when I lived there however... It wasn't the type of living that appealed to me. I did not however feel unsafe there. |
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![]() "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message news ![]() > On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 19:31:49 -0300, wrote: > >>On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 17:01:48 -0500, "Pete C." > >>wrote: >> >> >>>> > >>>> >Keep laughing, I've been to the UK, I've seen the Cairo-esque slums >>>> >you've got there. The US is far, far better off than your imploded >>>> >empire. >>>> >>>> Wow and you don't see the similarities in the USA right now ?? >>> >>>With the exception of a couple very small areas in the US, absolutely >>>not. Those who try to claim there are, or that there is huge poverty, or >>>tons of racism or "gun crime" have not the slightest clue what they are >>>talking about. Only those who both live in the US and have traveled it >>>extensively have a real concept of what the US is actually like. The >>>reality is the US is both huge and diverse and the 50 US states + >>>territories are more properly compared to the whole of Europe and all >>>the different countries there since each US state is decidedly different >>>from the rest. >> >>So driving coast to coast over a period of five weeks doesn't count ? >>Probably seen more than many born Americans. > > Driving around the US for a measley five weeks you've seen nothing, > ZERO! You'd see little of NYC in five months. Indeed! There are all sorts of itty bitty towns and townships here that you'd never know about unless you had some reason to go there. Like knowing someone who lives there. |
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![]() "dsi1" > wrote in message ... > On 7/2/2014 8:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> >> I nearly died in childbirth. I had gone into pre-eclampsia a day before >> my due date. BP went sky high during the birthing. And I had a high >> risk pregnancy due to my age and gestational diabetes. So that's why I >> only ever had one. > > Being pregnant is scary and hazardous to your health. Nobody could fault > you for having only one child. Our first was pretty easy. The second was a > little harder. The third was the killer. That would have made any couple > stop having kids. Funny how it all turns out. After what I went through I don't see how anyone could have more than one. My mom always said that you forget. I didn't forget. But... She may well have been given drugs that I wasn't. Not sure what all she had but she is big into taking drugs. I do know that. I refused any and all drugs but... Towards the end they insisted that I take something in my IV. I think it was Demerol. I had just grown too weak to push any more. I also had to have Magnesium Sulfate due to the really high BP and that made me feel very ill. |
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![]() "dsi1" > wrote in message ... > The early teen years for girls will usually be accompanied with a deep > drop in self-esteem. This creates all manner of havoc. My guess is that > something about female hormones have a major role in this. I'm no doctor > so that's about as far as I want to get into the subject. I don't quite get that either. In my case, I think the drop in self esteem was very brief. And a lot of it stemmed from my parents and other adults. They made a big deal about going into Jr. High and an even bigger one about going into High School. They said all sorts of things to me that made me fearful of going to school. Told me stuff about how the older kids would be very mean to me and stuff like that. Thankfully that didn't happen and in fact many of my friends were the older kids. Yes, sometimes older kids did mean and silly things but usually only to younger siblings or their friends. |
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On 7/3/2014 2:33 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "dsi1" > wrote in message > ... >> On 7/2/2014 8:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> >>> I nearly died in childbirth. I had gone into pre-eclampsia a day before >>> my due date. BP went sky high during the birthing. And I had a high >>> risk pregnancy due to my age and gestational diabetes. So that's why I >>> only ever had one. >> >> Being pregnant is scary and hazardous to your health. Nobody could >> fault you for having only one child. Our first was pretty easy. The >> second was a little harder. The third was the killer. That would have >> made any couple stop having kids. Funny how it all turns out. > > After what I went through I don't see how anyone could have more than > one. My mom always said that you forget. I didn't forget. But... She > may well have been given drugs that I wasn't. Not sure what all she had > but she is big into taking drugs. I do know that. I refused any and > all drugs but... Towards the end they insisted that I take something in > my IV. I think it was Demerol. I had just grown too weak to push any > more. I also had to have Magnesium Sulfate due to the really high BP > and that made me feel very ill. The delivery of our first child was quite remarkable in it's quietness. My wife knew it was time and took a bath and prepared herself. She gently roused me up in the middle of the night. I woke up to see her ready with all the bags and supplies we needed for the hospital. I was expecting something like in the movies but we made our way up the empty El Camino Real without any urgency. It all seems like a dream now. |
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On 7/3/2014 2:39 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > I don't quite get that either. In my case, I think the drop in self > esteem was very brief. And a lot of it stemmed from my parents and > other adults. They made a big deal about going into Jr. High and an even > bigger one about going into High School. They said all sorts of things > to me that made me fearful of going to school. Told me stuff about how > the older kids would be very mean to me and stuff like that. Thankfully > that didn't happen and in fact many of my friends were the older kids. > Yes, sometimes older kids did mean and silly things but usually only to > younger siblings or their friends. High school was funny. I went to a reunion a while back and it was gratifying to see the kids as adults. I told one girl that I always thought she was pretty and popular and hung around the cool crowd. She said it was an awful time for her and nobody liked her and she didn't have any friends. Odd bodkins! I would have been her friend, you betcha! One of my clients said that his kids remembered me in HS. They said that I was one of the smart guys. That was a complete shock to me since I saw myself as a complete slacker. Let's face it, kids have a pretty distorted view of themselves. |
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On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 4:30:49 PM UTC-5, James Silverton wrote:
> On 7/1/2014 3:51 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > > > On 2014-07-01 3:07 PM, ImStillMags wrote: > > >> For those who are not in the US, or have been living under a rock, > > >> the Supreme court ruled today that corporations who claim religious > > >> objections to birth control may exempt themselves from covering birth > > >> control in their health insurance plans. I'm not a lawyer, and I > > >> won't weigh in on the staggering legal ramifications of this > > >> decision. But I am a priest, a practical theologian, and the theology > > >> in this case is just plain bad. Obscenely so, and that, I can comment > > >> on. > > >> > > >> Very simply, the owners of Hobby Lobby (and other corporations) > > >> argued that their religion (Christianity) did not allow for abortion, > > >> and that birth control was a form of abortion. On those grounds they > > >> refused to cover the cost of birth control (and plan B > > >> contraceptives, which are still contraceptives, not abortion) for > > >> their company sponsored health insurance. > > > > > > For companies with a lot of young female employees, birth control pills > > > are likely one of the most commonly prescribed medications. Knock out > > > that single most widely used prescription and the the cost to the > > > insurer drops significantly. That should save the company a bundle in > > > its benefits package. Dare we suggest that the real motive is the money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> The Bible simply doesn't address birth control, it simply isn't > > >> interested. Sadly the Church has been obsessed with birth control, > > >> for all the wrong reasons, for generations. > > > > > > The god of the fundies had a more radical approach to birth control. He > > > set had things like floods, plagues and pestilence. > > > > > I wonder what fundamentalists do when they are young. Statistics seem to > > show that Catholics use birth control at about the same rate as the > > general population. Are bishops deaf, dumb and stupid as well as venal? > The cover-ups of sexual exploitation of children are unforgivable, and so many priests resort to exploitative sex because they aren't allowed natural sexual expression, whether *** or straight. Loving sexual doings between persons of reasonably equal agency are typically good. Loving, monogamous relationships are good, both different sex or same sex, and extra/non-marital sex can be beautiful as well. Romeo and Juliet can be good. Romeo and Romeo can be good. Two Romeos and one Juliet, or two Juliets and one Romeo can be good, and the only thing negative about promiscuity is the issue of STDs. Humans are sometimes vulnerable, especially women, to sex that might hurt them, but it doesn't help to oppress them; empowered women, with access to contraception, can neutralize misogyny. I see so many women as sisters, we all had a mother, many have been friends and some have been lovers. Without women, I wouldn't be alive, and without their affections, my life would have been empty. Any cultural institution that disrespects that half of humanity can go F^&% itself. > > Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) --Bryan |
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![]() "dsi1" > wrote in message ... > On 7/3/2014 2:22 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Janet" > wrote in message >> t... >>> In article >, >>> says... >>>> >>>> On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:52:22 -0500, Mark Storkamp >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> > Why is birth control free with no co-pay or deductible? >>>> >>>> It is? >>> >>> It is in the UK. 15 contraceptive methods all available free from the >>> NHS, education and confidential advice services everywhere. >> >> It's not usually free here. > > My assumption is that it will be sooner or later. Pre- and postnatal care > is pretty expensive. Family planning services are relatively cheap in > comparison. That's my guess anyway. My insurance was such that prenatal was only $1 and Well Baby (1st year) was free. |
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![]() "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message ... > Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>Gary wrote: >> >>> You don't need your insurance plan to buy OTC drugs. they are cheap >>> enough. >> >>One of my wife's prescriptions had a $10 co-pay and when the OTC became >>available it went to $29. > > True... when meds go OTC they typically cost significantly more than > the co-pay when it was Rx. And with most once they go OTC the generic > version ceases to exist so your doc can't write a Rx Same thing happened with yeast infections meds. For most of us they were cheaper or even free by prescription. Although you can still get them by prescription, they're not usually given any more. |
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![]() "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 7/3/2014 8:18 AM, wrote: > >> There was an interesting item on 60 Minutes recently about drug >> dosages, seems nothing had been tested to see if a different dose was >> needed by women, and we are fifty percent of the population! >> > > Well, you fought for equal rights! > > Weight may also be a factor. Alcohol affect people differently by wight, I > image some medications may also. Yes, it does. Some kids reach adult size by age 8 or 12 or so. Giving them a child's dose of something would not work. They need the adult dose. Some kids at 16 are not even adult size. One size does not fit all. |
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