In article >, says...
>
> "Janet" > wrote in message
> t...
> >
> >> >> In light of a UK recipe I saw this morning that called for white
> >> >> onions and showed yellow/brown, so now I'm wondering what is
> >> >> considered a white onion on the other side of the Pond? TIA
> >> >>
> >> >> http://thecookingdish.com/0330/the-d...nd-red-onions/
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Oh! They are referring to the skin???? My onions have brown outer
> >> > skins
> >> > but the inside is white.
> >>
> >> Those are called yellow.
> >
> > Not in the UK.
> >
> What are they called there?

Onions

Janet UK

On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 12:22:06 AM UTC+1, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>
> >
>
> > "Janet" > wrote in message
>
> > t...
>
> > >
>
> > >> >> In light of a UK recipe I saw this morning that called for white
>
> > >> >> onions and showed yellow/brown, so now I'm wondering what is
>
> > >> >> considered a white onion on the other side of the Pond? TIA
>
> > >> >>
>
> > >> >> http://thecookingdish.com/0330/the-d...nd-red-onions/
>
> > >> >>
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Oh! They are referring to the skin???? My onions have brown outer
>
> > >> > skins
>
> > >> > but the inside is white.
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Those are called yellow.
>
> > >
>
> > > Not in the UK.
>
> > >
> > What are they called there?
>
> Onions
>
> Janet UK

Good catch!
Cherry

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:13:58 -0700 (PDT), Cherry >
wrote:

> On Monday, July 7, 2014 3:56:56 PM UTC+1, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:08:27 +0100, Janet > wrote:
> >
> > > > >> In light of a UK recipe I saw this morning that called for white
> >
> > > > >> onions and showed yellow/brown, so now I'm wondering what is
> >
> > > > >> considered a white onion on the other side of the Pond? TIA
> >
> > > > >>
> >
> > > > >> http://thecookingdish.com/0330/the-d...nd-red-onions/
> >
> > > > >>
> >
> > > > >
> >
> > > > > Oh! They are referring to the skin???? My onions have brown outer skins
> >
> > > > > but the inside is white.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Those are called yellow.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Not in the UK.
> >
> > You still call them Spanish?
> >
> > All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
>
> Only if they're from Spain.

I'm pretty sure the Spanish onions of my childhood weren't from Spain.
I don't remember (too young to care at that point) if they were
actually labeled Spanish or if that was just the term given to them by
my family. What I'm wondering is *why* anyone called them Spanish
when (I'm going out on the limb here, but given the year and location
I'm 99.999% sure) they were not? It was not an area of the country
with any Spanish influence. Since you have Spanish and British onions
that are essentially the same thing and I was in the part of the
country heavily influenced by England and France, why weren't they
called British or English onions instead of Spanish. It's rhetorical.
Just musing.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:28:14 -0700 (PDT), Cherry >
wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 12:22:06 AM UTC+1, Janet wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> >
> > >
> >
> > > "Janet" > wrote in message
> >
> > > t...
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >> >> In light of a UK recipe I saw this morning that called for white
> >
> > > >> >> onions and showed yellow/brown, so now I'm wondering what is
> >
> > > >> >> considered a white onion on the other side of the Pond? TIA
> >
> > > >> >>
> >
> > > >> >> http://thecookingdish.com/0330/the-d...nd-red-onions/
> >
> > > >> >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >> > Oh! They are referring to the skin???? My onions have brown outer
> >
> > > >> > skins
> >
> > > >> > but the inside is white.
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> Those are called yellow.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Not in the UK.
> >
> > > >
> > > What are they called there?
> >
> > Onions
> >
> > Janet UK
>
> Good catch!
> Cherry

In that case, how do you verbally distinguish them from red and white
onions?

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

In article >,
says...
> > >
> > > > >> Those are called yellow.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Not in the UK.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > What are they called there?
> > >
> > > Onions
> > >
> > > Janet UK
> >
> > Good catch!
> > Cherry
>
> In that case, how do you verbally distinguish them from red and white
> onions?

You'll never guess so I'll tell you our little secret. We cunningly
refer to red onions as "red onions".


Janet UK

On 7/7/2014 5:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> It's somewhere around 80 and we're suffering here. I was up until
> something like 8:00 a.m., unable to sleep. Tried to sleep on the couch
> because there is a ceiling fan above it but it seems that all it did was
> blow warm air on me. Not liking this. Supposed to only get hotter and
> stay that way for over a week.

Heh! It's going to be close to 100F for the next 2 days. We can't live
without AC here, or those who don't have it must be miserable. It's
still in the upper 80s here, even though the sun has gone down. We're
just going into our hottest time of the year, and usually with no rain
unless it's hurricane remnants.

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Cheryl

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:50:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>It's somewhere around 80 and we're suffering here. I was up until something
>like 8:00 a.m., unable to sleep. Tried to sleep on the couch because there
>is a ceiling fan above it but it seems that all it did was blow warm air on
>me. Not liking this. Supposed to only get hotter and stay that way for
>over a week.

Can you get those little window air conditioners where you live? Where
I live in Ontario, it gets to about 85-90 degrees at this time of the
summer, but we have a window unit in our bedroom, and it cools things
down quite nicely at night. I think they cost about $100.

Doris

On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 02:19:54 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> > > >
> > > > > >> Those are called yellow.
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Not in the UK.
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > What are they called there?
> > > >
> > > > Onions
> > > >
> > > > Janet UK
> > >
> > > Good catch!
> > > Cherry
> >
> > In that case, how do you verbally distinguish them from red and white
> > onions?
>
> You'll never guess so I'll tell you our little secret. We cunningly
> refer to red onions as "red onions".
>
Thank god you neglected to say that before, otherwise you would have
had nothing to say now.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 7/7/2014 5:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> It's somewhere around 80 and we're suffering here. I was up until
>> something like 8:00 a.m., unable to sleep. Tried to sleep on the couch
>> because there is a ceiling fan above it but it seems that all it did was
>> blow warm air on me. Not liking this. Supposed to only get hotter and
>> stay that way for over a week.
>
> Heh! It's going to be close to 100F for the next 2 days. We can't live
> without AC here, or those who don't have it must be miserable. It's still
> in the upper 80s here, even though the sun has gone down. We're just going
> into our hottest time of the year, and usually with no rain unless it's
> hurricane remnants.

No AC here. My mom does have it so if things get really bad we could go
there. Bro has it too but rarely anyone ever home at his house.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:50:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>It's somewhere around 80 and we're suffering here. I was up until
>>something
>>like 8:00 a.m., unable to sleep. Tried to sleep on the couch because
>>there
>>is a ceiling fan above it but it seems that all it did was blow warm air
>>on
>>me. Not liking this. Supposed to only get hotter and stay that way for
>>over a week.
>
> Can you get those little window air conditioners where you live? Where
> I live in Ontario, it gets to about 85-90 degrees at this time of the
> summer, but we have a window unit in our bedroom, and it cools things
> down quite nicely at night. I think they cost about $100.

I wouldn't dare. I did have one. It didn't fit our windows. There is no
real way to make the window secure with one of those units and our crime
rate is high here. I also don't really have any way of venting a portable
unit.

I don't think you can get any units for that price here. The one that I got
10 years ago was around $300 and it was a small one.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 15:04:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 00:49:53 -0700 (PDT), Cherry >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think your recipe showed a picture of the wrong onions.
>> >
>> > Thanks! It left me scratching my head, thinking about the differences
>> > in language even though it's supposedly the same one.
>> >
>> >> Our onions are the same as those in our link. The only thing is that
>> >> the
>> >> yellow/brown
>> >> onions can be British or Spanish depending on the season. The Spanish
>> >> can be
>> >
>> > I haven't heard an onion called "Spanish" in decades!
>> >
>> >> quite mild and the British are quite sharp and tend to make my eyes
>> >> water.
>> >
>> > I've never heard an onion called "British" before. Is there any way
>> > to tell at the grocery store, can you always tell by season, or is
>> > that just something you say when your eyes begin to water?
>> >
>> I have seen them labeled as Spanish Sweet.
>
> Grown here or elsewhere?

I didn't buy any and didn't look at the label. Sorry. Just saw the sign.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:13:58 -0700 (PDT), Cherry >
> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, July 7, 2014 3:56:56 PM UTC+1, sf wrote:
>> > On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:08:27 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>> >
>> > > > >> In light of a UK recipe I saw this morning that called for white
>> >
>> > > > >> onions and showed yellow/brown, so now I'm wondering what is
>> >
>> > > > >> considered a white onion on the other side of the Pond? TIA
>> >
>> > > > >>
>> >
>> > > > >> http://thecookingdish.com/0330/the-d...nd-red-onions/
>> >
>> > > > >>
>> >
>> > > > >
>> >
>> > > > > Oh! They are referring to the skin???? My onions have brown
>> > > > > outer skins
>> >
>> > > > > but the inside is white.
>> >
>> > > >
>> >
>> > > > Those are called yellow.
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > Not in the UK.
>> >
>> > You still call them Spanish?
>> >
>> > All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
>>
>> Only if they're from Spain.
>
> I'm pretty sure the Spanish onions of my childhood weren't from Spain.
> I don't remember (too young to care at that point) if they were
> actually labeled Spanish or if that was just the term given to them by
> my family. What I'm wondering is *why* anyone called them Spanish
> when (I'm going out on the limb here, but given the year and location
> I'm 99.999% sure) they were not? It was not an area of the country
> with any Spanish influence. Since you have Spanish and British onions
> that are essentially the same thing and I was in the part of the
> country heavily influenced by England and France, why weren't they
> called British or English onions instead of Spanish. It's rhetorical.
> Just musing.

This link will just add to the confusion!

http://www.foodterms.com/encyclopedi...ion/index.html

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 23:00:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >> Only if they're from Spain.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure the Spanish onions of my childhood weren't from Spain.
> > I don't remember (too young to care at that point) if they were
> > actually labeled Spanish or if that was just the term given to them by
> > my family. What I'm wondering is *why* anyone called them Spanish
> > when (I'm going out on the limb here, but given the year and location
> > I'm 99.999% sure) they were not? It was not an area of the country
> > with any Spanish influence. Since you have Spanish and British onions
> > that are essentially the same thing and I was in the part of the
> > country heavily influenced by England and France, why weren't they
> > called British or English onions instead of Spanish. It's rhetorical.
> > Just musing.
>
> This link will just add to the confusion!
>
> http://www.foodterms.com/encyclopedi...ion/index.html

Oh, boy. I also remember the term "Bermuda" onions!

Interestingly, I thought the round yellow onions in the stores are
Granex, but apparently Granex is flat according to that web site. So,
I guess the round one is commonly called a "Spanish" onion.
http://bonnieplants.com/products/veg...n-yellow-jumbo
Not that grocery stores label them by variety. I have two bags of
onions from Trader Joe's. One says Yellow Onions and the other says
Sweet Onions (which are white). They are labeled as organic and grown
in California - but there's no detailed information telling me what
variety they are.


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 23:00:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>
>> >> Only if they're from Spain.
>> >
>> > I'm pretty sure the Spanish onions of my childhood weren't from Spain.
>> > I don't remember (too young to care at that point) if they were
>> > actually labeled Spanish or if that was just the term given to them by
>> > my family. What I'm wondering is *why* anyone called them Spanish
>> > when (I'm going out on the limb here, but given the year and location
>> > I'm 99.999% sure) they were not? It was not an area of the country
>> > with any Spanish influence. Since you have Spanish and British onions
>> > that are essentially the same thing and I was in the part of the
>> > country heavily influenced by England and France, why weren't they
>> > called British or English onions instead of Spanish. It's rhetorical.
>> > Just musing.
>>
>> This link will just add to the confusion!
>>
>> http://www.foodterms.com/encyclopedi...ion/index.html
>
> Oh, boy. I also remember the term "Bermuda" onions!
>
> Interestingly, I thought the round yellow onions in the stores are
> Granex, but apparently Granex is flat according to that web site. So,
> I guess the round one is commonly called a "Spanish" onion.
> http://bonnieplants.com/products/veg...n-yellow-jumbo
> Not that grocery stores label them by variety. I have two bags of
> onions from Trader Joe's. One says Yellow Onions and the other says
> Sweet Onions (which are white). They are labeled as organic and grown
> in California - but there's no detailed information telling me what
> variety they are.

This is all getting more and more confusing.

A while back, someone posted that they saw red Cippolini. Central Market
had them but I didn't buy them as I was well stocked on onions at the time.

My onions are holding up well in the garage for now. I did buy one bag of
russets at Target and they sprouted immediately but the red ones that I also
got there are just fine. I tried another bag of russets from another store.
We'll see.

On 7/7/2014 9:19 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> In that case, how do you verbally distinguish them from red and white
>> onions?
>
> You'll never guess so I'll tell you our little secret. We cunningly
> refer to red onions as "red onions".
>
>
> Janet UK
>
Funny, I call them purple onions.

Jill

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> My onions have been in the crockpot since 4:30 this morning. It's going
>>> on 11 hours now and they are starting to brown up nicely.
>>
>> Go girl))
>>
>
> We're going to be leaving soon, so I am going to go ahead and turn them
> off.
>
> Started out:
>
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2cgzqyg&s=8
>
>
>
> Ended up:
>
> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=e0qrsi&s=8

All looks familiar. Thanks for posting Did you taste them? What type of
onions did you use?


> Myself, I think I'd just as soon do in a frying pan and be done with it as
> opposed to hours of cooking, but since this was the first time, I was
> stirring often.

Yes and with better flavour too, but this is an option if one is very busy

I suspect you are like me, just like to experiment



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On 7/8/2014 6:20 AM, wrote:

> Before we came here we lived in Portsmouth (UK) for a couple of years.
> I remember in season the French men who came across the channel with
> their bikes and loads of onions. They called them Spanish onions and
> went door to door selling them. They were lovely, the stems had all
> been plaited together and you could hang them in the cool of the
> larder and cut one off when you needed them.
>
Ing'in Johnnies! My Gran's house must have been one of the first stops
after Leith - the bike was almost invisible under the strings of onions.

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:56:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Doris Night" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:50:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>It's somewhere around 80 and we're suffering here. I was up until
>>>something
>>>like 8:00 a.m., unable to sleep. Tried to sleep on the couch because
>>>there
>>>is a ceiling fan above it but it seems that all it did was blow warm air
>>>on
>>>me. Not liking this. Supposed to only get hotter and stay that way for
>>>over a week.
>>
>> Can you get those little window air conditioners where you live? Where
>> I live in Ontario, it gets to about 85-90 degrees at this time of the
>> summer, but we have a window unit in our bedroom, and it cools things
>> down quite nicely at night. I think they cost about $100.
>
>I wouldn't dare. I did have one. It didn't fit our windows. There is no
>real way to make the window secure with one of those units and our crime
>rate is high here. I also don't really have any way of venting a portable
>unit.
>
>I don't think you can get any units for that price here. The one that I got
>10 years ago was around $300 and it was a small one.

A no frills 5,000 BTU window unit runs about $100 but that's barely
enough cooling for a small bedroom... for a typical bedroom you'd need
at least 10,000 BTUs and those run about $300. If too small a unit it
will run constantly so your electric bill will more than offset what
you saved by buying an under sized unit. Too large a unit won't run
long enough to remove humidity so your room will be cold and dank. And
a too cold but humid room will grow lots of mold inside the walls.
Actually air conditioning one room will cause moisture to condense and
mold to grow inside the walls of the adjoining unairconditioned rooms.
Central air conditioning costs less than using multiple window units,
and does a far better job of cooling, dehumidifying, and air
filtration. Individual room air conditioners guarantee black mold...
that's what murdered Killi.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...er%2Caps%2C471

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/7/2014 9:19 PM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> In that case, how do you verbally distinguish them from red and white
>>> onions?
>>
>> You'll never guess so I'll tell you our little secret. We cunningly
>> refer to red onions as "red onions".
>>
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
> Funny, I call them purple onions.

They're no more red than black beans are black.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:56:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Doris Night" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:50:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's somewhere around 80 and we're suffering here. I was up until
>>>>something
>>>>like 8:00 a.m., unable to sleep. Tried to sleep on the couch because
>>>>there
>>>>is a ceiling fan above it but it seems that all it did was blow warm air
>>>>on
>>>>me. Not liking this. Supposed to only get hotter and stay that way for
>>>>over a week.
>>>
>>> Can you get those little window air conditioners where you live? Where
>>> I live in Ontario, it gets to about 85-90 degrees at this time of the
>>> summer, but we have a window unit in our bedroom, and it cools things
>>> down quite nicely at night. I think they cost about $100.
>>
>>I wouldn't dare. I did have one. It didn't fit our windows. There is no
>>real way to make the window secure with one of those units and our crime
>>rate is high here. I also don't really have any way of venting a portable
>>unit.
>>
>>I don't think you can get any units for that price here. The one that I
>>got
>>10 years ago was around $300 and it was a small one.
>
> A no frills 5,000 BTU window unit runs about $100 but that's barely
> enough cooling for a small bedroom... for a typical bedroom you'd need
> at least 10,000 BTUs and those run about $300. If too small a unit it
> will run constantly so your electric bill will more than offset what
> you saved by buying an under sized unit. Too large a unit won't run
> long enough to remove humidity so your room will be cold and dank. And
> a too cold but humid room will grow lots of mold inside the walls.
> Actually air conditioning one room will cause moisture to condense and
> mold to grow inside the walls of the adjoining unairconditioned rooms.
> Central air conditioning costs less than using multiple window units,
> and does a far better job of cooling, dehumidifying, and air
> filtration. Individual room air conditioners guarantee black mold...
> that's what murdered Killi.
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...er%2Caps%2C471

Sorry. There is really no way to get AC here. SIL had mentioned ductless.
/but
I don't think that would work either. There is some sort of big heavy unit
that goes outside and there is no place to put that. Plus I don't know
where the AC unit or units would go in the house. Our house design is such
that there isn't much free wall space. It's all taken up with windows and
doors.

On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 14:50:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Sorry. There is really no way to get AC here. SIL had mentioned ductless.
> /but
> I don't think that would work either. There is some sort of big heavy unit
> that goes outside and there is no place to put that. Plus I don't know
> where the AC unit or units would go in the house. Our house design is such
> that there isn't much free wall space. It's all taken up with windows and
> doors.

The ductless units I've seen were mounted over doorways.

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On 7/8/2014 5:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>


> Sorry. There is really no way to get AC here. SIL had mentioned
> ductless. /but
> I don't think that would work either. There is some sort of big heavy
> unit that goes outside and there is no place to put that. Plus I don't
> know where the AC unit or units would go in the house. Our house design
> is such that there isn't much free wall space. It's all taken up with
> windows and doors.

There is always a way to AC. Thru the wall under a window or over a
door, modify a window, add ducts, etc. It is also possible to secure
one in a window.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/8/2014 5:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>
>> Sorry. There is really no way to get AC here. SIL had mentioned
>> ductless. /but
>> I don't think that would work either. There is some sort of big heavy
>> unit that goes outside and there is no place to put that. Plus I don't
>> know where the AC unit or units would go in the house. Our house design
>> is such that there isn't much free wall space. It's all taken up with
>> windows and doors.
>
> There is always a way to AC. Thru the wall under a window or over a door,
> modify a window, add ducts, etc. It is also possible to secure one in a
> window.

We have an a/c unit about the size of a small fridge. We bought it for the
caravan because our dog suffered one very hot summer. It will also work
well in one room of the house. Almost too cold really but at least you can
turn it off)

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1816822.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=cgid:11724684065|tsid :41370|cid:147343385|lid:64453434533|nw:g|crid:401 31475745|rnd:5459988049325261270|dvc:c|adp:1o1



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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/8/2014 5:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>
>>
>>> Sorry. There is really no way to get AC here. SIL had mentioned
>>> ductless. /but
>>> I don't think that would work either. There is some sort of big heavy
>>> unit that goes outside and there is no place to put that. Plus I don't
>>> know where the AC unit or units would go in the house. Our house design
>>> is such that there isn't much free wall space. It's all taken up with
>>> windows and doors.
>>
>> There is always a way to AC. Thru the wall under a window or over a
>> door,
>> modify a window, add ducts, etc. It is also possible to secure one in a
>> window.
>
> We have an a/c unit about the size of a small fridge. We bought it for
> the
> caravan because our dog suffered one very hot summer. It will also work
> well in one room of the house. Almost too cold really but at least you
> can
> turn it off)
>
> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1816822.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=cgid:11724684065|tsid :41370|cid:147343385|lid:64453434533|nw:g|crid:401 31475745|rnd:5459988049325261270|dvc:c|adp:1o1

I would never put one in a window here. That's a sure way to get robbed.
All they have to do is pop it out and come on in. Plus due to the design of
this house, you'd only be able to cool the one room. This house was
remodeled and is really long from front to back with the entire middle
section being windowless and having no exterior walls. It's a very odd
layout.

There is also no way to put one through the wall under a window because the
heaters are under the windows. They are baseboard. We also don't have
windows that are the same. Some come down pretty low. Some are up pretty
high but there is furniture in front of them. The rooms are all very small
with the exception of my bedroom and my bathroom.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/8/2014 5:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sorry. There is really no way to get AC here. SIL had mentioned
>>>> ductless. /but
>>>> I don't think that would work either. There is some sort of big heavy
>>>> unit that goes outside and there is no place to put that. Plus I don't
>>>> know where the AC unit or units would go in the house. Our house
>>>> design
>>>> is such that there isn't much free wall space. It's all taken up with
>>>> windows and doors.
>>>
>>> There is always a way to AC. Thru the wall under a window or over a
>>> door,
>>> modify a window, add ducts, etc. It is also possible to secure one in a
>>> window.
>>
>> We have an a/c unit about the size of a small fridge. We bought it for
>> the
>> caravan because our dog suffered one very hot summer. It will also work
>> well in one room of the house. Almost too cold really but at least you
>> can
>> turn it off)
>>
>> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1816822.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=cgid:11724684065|tsid :41370|cid:147343385|lid:64453434533|nw:g|crid:401 31475745|rnd:5459988049325261270|dvc:c|adp:1o1
>
> I would never put one in a window here. That's a sure way to get robbed.
> All they have to do is pop it out and come on in. Plus due to the design
> of this house, you'd only be able to cool the one room. This house was
> remodeled and is really long from front to back with the entire middle
> section being windowless and having no exterior walls. It's a very odd
> layout.
>
> There is also no way to put one through the wall under a window because
> the heaters are under the windows. They are baseboard. We also don't
> have windows that are the same. Some come down pretty low. Some are up
> pretty high but there is furniture in front of them. The rooms are all
> very small with the exception of my bedroom and my bathroom.

My unit is floor standing and can be moved around.

--
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 7/8/2014 5:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry. There is really no way to get AC here. SIL had mentioned
>>>>> ductless. /but
>>>>> I don't think that would work either. There is some sort of big heavy
>>>>> unit that goes outside and there is no place to put that. Plus I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> know where the AC unit or units would go in the house. Our house
>>>>> design
>>>>> is such that there isn't much free wall space. It's all taken up with
>>>>> windows and doors.
>>>>
>>>> There is always a way to AC. Thru the wall under a window or over a
>>>> door,
>>>> modify a window, add ducts, etc. It is also possible to secure one in
>>>> a
>>>> window.
>>>
>>> We have an a/c unit about the size of a small fridge. We bought it for
>>> the
>>> caravan because our dog suffered one very hot summer. It will also work
>>> well in one room of the house. Almost too cold really but at least you
>>> can
>>> turn it off)
>>>
>>> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1816822.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=cgid:11724684065|tsid :41370|cid:147343385|lid:64453434533|nw:g|crid:401 31475745|rnd:5459988049325261270|dvc:c|adp:1o1
>>
>> I would never put one in a window here. That's a sure way to get robbed.
>> All they have to do is pop it out and come on in. Plus due to the design
>> of this house, you'd only be able to cool the one room. This house was
>> remodeled and is really long from front to back with the entire middle
>> section being windowless and having no exterior walls. It's a very odd
>> layout.
>>
>> There is also no way to put one through the wall under a window because
>> the heaters are under the windows. They are baseboard. We also don't
>> have windows that are the same. Some come down pretty low. Some are up
>> pretty high but there is furniture in front of them. The rooms are all
>> very small with the exception of my bedroom and my bathroom.
>
> My unit is floor standing and can be moved around.

Yes but those need to be vented out the window. Another thing I can't do.

On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 02:05:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/8/2014 5:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sorry. There is really no way to get AC here. SIL had mentioned
>>>> ductless. /but
>>>> I don't think that would work either. There is some sort of big heavy
>>>> unit that goes outside and there is no place to put that. Plus I don't
>>>> know where the AC unit or units would go in the house. Our house design
>>>> is such that there isn't much free wall space. It's all taken up with
>>>> windows and doors.
>>>
>>> There is always a way to AC. Thru the wall under a window or over a
>>> door,
>>> modify a window, add ducts, etc. It is also possible to secure one in a
>>> window.
>>
>> We have an a/c unit about the size of a small fridge. We bought it for
>> the
>> caravan because our dog suffered one very hot summer. It will also work
>> well in one room of the house. Almost too cold really but at least you
>> can
>> turn it off)
>>
>> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1816822.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=cgid:11724684065|tsid :41370|cid:147343385|lid:64453434533|nw:g|crid:401 31475745|rnd:5459988049325261270|dvc:c|adp:1o1
>
>I would never put one in a window here. That's a sure way to get robbed.
>All they have to do is pop it out and come on in.

Nonsense, popping out the ac unit is the last way a robber would break
in... too much work... they'd choose a window without an ac unit and
simply bust the glass. Most times a robber will gain entry by shoving
in the back door. Locks are only for keeping honest people out.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Sorry. There is really no way to get AC here. SIL had mentioned
>> ductless. /but
>> I don't think that would work either. There is some sort of big heavy
>> unit that goes outside and there is no place to put that. Plus I don't
>> know where the AC unit or units would go in the house. Our house design
>> is such that there isn't much free wall space. It's all taken up with
>> windows and doors.
>
>There is always a way to AC. Thru the wall under a window or over a
>door, modify a window, add ducts, etc. It is also possible to secure
>one in a window.

The unit that goes outside requires very little space, if one has any
type of yard then there is plenty of room requires the space of a
trash can), and for commercial buildings it usually goes on the roof.
Window units can be easily installed through the wall, I had those at
my last house until I realized that central A/C would be significantly
less expensive to run. There are always several ways to install
central a/c... people make up all kinds of excuses not to have A/C
ONLY because they don't want to spend the money.

On 7/7/2014 5:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> t's somewhere around 80 and we're suffering here. I was up until
> something like 8:00 a.m., unable to sleep. Tried to sleep on the couch
> because there is a ceiling fan above it but it seems that all it did was
> blow warm air on me. Not liking this. Supposed to only get hotter and
> stay that way for over a week.

Did it ever occur to you to invest in air conditioning? Even a window
unit would help cool down a couple of rooms.

Jill

On 7/7/2014 10:24 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:50:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> It's somewhere around 80 and we're suffering here. I was up until something
>> like 8:00 a.m., unable to sleep. Tried to sleep on the couch because there
>> is a ceiling fan above it but it seems that all it did was blow warm air on
>> me. Not liking this. Supposed to only get hotter and stay that way for
>> over a week.
>
> Can you get those little window air conditioners where you live? Where
> I live in Ontario, it gets to about 85-90 degrees at this time of the
> summer, but we have a window unit in our bedroom, and it cools things
> down quite nicely at night. I think they cost about $100.
>
> Doris
>
They are very inexpensive. You can even find used *working* window
units on Craigslist. There will be some reason she can't do it. <sigh>

Jill

On 7/9/2014 8:47 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 02:05:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I would never put one in a window here. That's a sure way to get robbed.
>> All they have to do is pop it out and come on in.
>
> Nonsense, popping out the ac unit is the last way a robber would break
> in... too much work... they'd choose a window without an ac unit and
> simply bust the glass. Most times a robber will gain entry by shoving
> in the back door. Locks are only for keeping honest people out.
>
Naturally she has an excuse for not putting in a window unit or looking
at portable AC's. She'd rather bitch about how hot it is. Most people
have figured out how to cool their homes (if needed) without all the drama.

Jill

On 7/8/2014 1:54 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> b.com...
>> On 7/7/2014 5:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> It's somewhere around 80 and we're suffering here. I was up until
>>> something like 8:00 a.m., unable to sleep. Tried to sleep on the couch
>>> because there is a ceiling fan above it but it seems that all it did was
>>> blow warm air on me. Not liking this. Supposed to only get hotter and
>>> stay that way for over a week.
>>
>> Heh! It's going to be close to 100F for the next 2 days. We can't
>> live without AC here, or those who don't have it must be miserable.
>> It's still in the upper 80s here, even though the sun has gone down.
>> We're just going into our hottest time of the year, and usually with
>> no rain unless it's hurricane remnants.
>
> No AC here. My mom does have it so if things get really bad we could go
> there. Bro has it too but rarely anyone ever home at his house.

Julie, you really do make simple things difficult. There's always a
reason you can't find a solution to a problem. You just don't try.

Jill

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> It's somewhere around 80 and we're suffering here. I was up until something
> like 8:00 a.m., unable to sleep. Tried to sleep on the couch because there
> is a ceiling fan above it but it seems that all it did was blow warm air on
> me. Not liking this. Supposed to only get hotter and stay that way for
> over a week.

Buy a small window ac unit. Only about $100. It will be great for a
room to hang out in and will even cool down a small house if your
square footage isn't much. Not only do they cool, but they remove the
humidity from your air. It will be the best Benjamin you've ever
spent. If you can't sleep at night, BUY ONE and NO EXCUSES this time,
Julie.

G.

On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 09:53:24 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 7/7/2014 10:24 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> > On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:50:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> It's somewhere around 80 and we're suffering here. I was up until something
> >> like 8:00 a.m., unable to sleep. Tried to sleep on the couch because there
> >> is a ceiling fan above it but it seems that all it did was blow warm air on
> >> me. Not liking this. Supposed to only get hotter and stay that way for
> >> over a week.
> >
> > Can you get those little window air conditioners where you live? Where
> > I live in Ontario, it gets to about 85-90 degrees at this time of the
> > summer, but we have a window unit in our bedroom, and it cools things
> > down quite nicely at night. I think they cost about $100.
> >
> > Doris
> >
> They are very inexpensive. You can even find used *working* window
> units on Craigslist. There will be some reason she can't do it. <sigh>
>
You can buy window units for $50 on sale, but stand alone room air
conditioners are more expensive and begin around $300. Personally,
I'd get a ductless unit if it was an issue - but in reality a fan
works just fine when the temps hit 80° at my house (I need moving
air). If it was any hotter on a regular basis, I'd be spending real
money to fix the problem.


--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Doris Night" wrote:
> > Can you get those little window air conditioners where you live? Where
> > I live in Ontario, it gets to about 85-90 degrees at this time of the
> > summer, but we have a window unit in our bedroom, and it cools things
> > down quite nicely at night. I think they cost about $100.
>
> I wouldn't dare. I did have one. It didn't fit our windows. There is no
> real way to make the window secure with one of those units and our crime
> rate is high here. I also don't really have any way of venting a portable
> unit.
>
> I don't think you can get any units for that price here. The one that I got
> 10 years ago was around $300 and it was a small one.

Quit being so negative and just buy a small window unit, Julie.
It will fit your windows and that will vent it outside.
Only costs about $100. You still have about 2 more months of hot,
humid weather where you can't sleep at night and shop at stores with
ac when you could be staying in the comfort of your own home.

No high crime rate excuse either. A burgular will break into a
regular window or door before they break into the window with an AC
unit in it.

Buy one! NO EXCUSE is valid for this problem, Julie. And since you
won't need it often where you live, this one time buy should last you
20 years or so.

G.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...



>I would never put one in a window here. That's a sure way to get robbed.
>All they have to do is pop it out and come on in. Plus due to the design
>of this house, you'd only be able to cool the one room. This house was
>remodeled and is really long from front to back with the entire middle
>section being windowless and having no exterior walls. It's a very odd
>layout.
>
>There is also no way to put one through the wall under a window because the
>heaters are under the windows. They are baseboard. We also don't have
>windows that are the same. Some come down pretty low. Some are up pretty
>high but there is furniture in front of them. The rooms are all very small
>with the exception of my bedroom and my bathroom.
>

Here you go, cheap and no window needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaC0dlRENk0


Robert

"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message ...
>>
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/8/2014 5:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sorry. There is really no way to get AC here. SIL had mentioned
>>>> ductless. /but
>>>> I don't think that would work either. There is some sort of big heavy
>>>> unit that goes outside and there is no place to put that. Plus I don't
>>>> know where the AC unit or units would go in the house. Our house design
>>>> is such that there isn't much free wall space. It's all taken up with
>>>> windows and doors.
>>>
>>> There is always a way to AC. Thru the wall under a window or over a >> door,
>>> modify a window, add ducts, etc. It is also possible to secure one in a
>>> window.
>>
>> We have an a/c unit about the size of a small fridge. We bought it for > the
>> caravan because our dog suffered one very hot summer. It will also work
>> well in one room of the house. Almost too cold really but at least you > can
>> turn it off)
>>
>> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1816822.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=cgid:11724684065|tsid :41370|cid:147343385|lid:64453434533|nw:g|crid:401 31475745|rnd:5459988049325261270|dvc:c|adp:1o1
>
> I would never put one in a window here. That's a sure way to get robbed.
> All they have to do is pop it out and come on in. Plus due to the design
> of this house, you'd only be able to cool the one room. This house was
> remodeled and is really long from front to back with the entire middle
> section being windowless and having no exterior walls. It's a very odd layout.


So you won't put a window unit in because you'll get robbed, but you'll
leave windows with screens open at night for cat snatching raccoons....

--
jinx the minx

On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 21:33:34 +0000 (UTC), jinx the minx
> wrote:

>"Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> I would never put one in a window here. That's a sure way to get robbed.
>> All they have to do is pop it out and come on in. Plus due to the design
>> of this house, you'd only be able to cool the one room. This house was
>> remodeled and is really long from front to back with the entire middle
>> section being windowless and having no exterior walls. It's a very odd layout.
>
>
>So you won't put a window unit in because you'll get robbed, but you'll
>leave windows with screens open at night for cat snatching raccoons....

There's no reason whatsoever that an air-con installed in a window
need be a security risk. An ounce of intelligence can solve that
problem easily. But that takes all the fun out of it, donut Julie?

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 02:05:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 7/8/2014 5:50 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry. There is really no way to get AC here. SIL had mentioned
>>>>> ductless. /but
>>>>> I don't think that would work either. There is some sort of big heavy
>>>>> unit that goes outside and there is no place to put that. Plus I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> know where the AC unit or units would go in the house. Our house
>>>>> design
>>>>> is such that there isn't much free wall space. It's all taken up with
>>>>> windows and doors.
>>>>
>>>> There is always a way to AC. Thru the wall under a window or over a
>>>> door,
>>>> modify a window, add ducts, etc. It is also possible to secure one in
>>>> a
>>>> window.
>>>
>>> We have an a/c unit about the size of a small fridge. We bought it for
>>> the
>>> caravan because our dog suffered one very hot summer. It will also work
>>> well in one room of the house. Almost too cold really but at least you
>>> can
>>> turn it off)
>>>
>>> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1816822.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=cgid:11724684065|tsid :41370|cid:147343385|lid:64453434533|nw:g|crid:401 31475745|rnd:5459988049325261270|dvc:c|adp:1o1
>>
>>I would never put one in a window here. That's a sure way to get robbed.
>>All they have to do is pop it out and come on in.
>
> Nonsense, popping out the ac unit is the last way a robber would break
> in... too much work... they'd choose a window without an ac unit and
> simply bust the glass. Most times a robber will gain entry by shoving
> in the back door. Locks are only for keeping honest people out.

Our windows are too large for a window unit so they would require putting in
a board. All they'd have to do is pop the board out. Plus they need to be
plugged in and there are no plugs near any of the windows.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/9/2014 8:47 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 02:05:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I would never put one in a window here. That's a sure way to get
>>> robbed.
>>> All they have to do is pop it out and come on in.
>>
>> Nonsense, popping out the ac unit is the last way a robber would break
>> in... too much work... they'd choose a window without an ac unit and
>> simply bust the glass. Most times a robber will gain entry by shoving
>> in the back door. Locks are only for keeping honest people out.
>>
> Naturally she has an excuse for not putting in a window unit or looking at
> portable AC's. She'd rather bitch about how hot it is. Most people have
> figured out how to cool their homes (if needed) without all the drama.

I *had* a portable unit. It would not work with our windows. You can go up
and down this street and you won't see any air conditioners. Most people
here do not have them at all. It normally doesn't get hot enough to warrant
one.

Since it is normally hot where you are, I assume that most people there have
them.