I guess collard greens really are the state vegetable of South Carolina.
Come fall I might have to give this method a try. (Collards aren't
in season this time of year.)

Part 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIOirm55kmU

I'm still not a big fan of red rice.

I found it interesting when he was talking about sauteeing the onions
for the sauce he said some people use meat (sausage, neckbones). I
suppose to render the fat to saute the onions. He says back in the day,
we didn't have dat kinda meat. He says use canola oil. Was canola oil
readily available "back in da day?"

Part 2: the pan-fried chicken

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYUnpVwPiqQ

There's a reason I no longer fry chicken. It's not fun getting burned
when the oil pops! I'll leave that to guys like this.

I like the idea of the handing down of traditions. There is an old
woman who sits on the porch of the restaurant, hand-weaving gorgeous
seagrass baskets. It's practically a lost art. She's occasionally got
some grandchildren or maybe great-grandchildren helping her. But
according to what I've read (Smithsonian magazine and local
publications) this generation isn't much interested. Sad, really.

Jill

On Sunday, July 6, 2014 12:50:55 AM UTC+10, jmcquown wrote:
>
> I found it interesting when he was talking about sauteeing the onions
> for the sauce he said some people use meat (sausage, neckbones). I
> suppose to render the fat to saute the onions. He says back in the day,
> we didn't have dat kinda meat. He says use canola oil. Was canola oil
> readily available "back in da day?"

More or less. Rapeseed was grown very early in the British North American colonies, as an oilseed. But old-time rapeseed oil was not the same as modern canola - modern canola oil is made from varieties of rape bred to have less flavour (and less erucic acid), and modern extraction/refining probably helps reduce the flavour as well. Indian-style mustard oil is probably closer to old-time rapeseed oil than modern canola is.

Guess them yankees in SC can keep the collards. They always taste like they have a squashed stink bug in there. Now mustard greens are a delight. Love the early crop raw in a salad. Much healthier and tastier than ice berg lettuce. Canola oil is a poison. I would not use it. Peanut oil is very hard to beat for heavy duty frying chores. We also use a lot of heat tolerant Olive Oil. Kroger Light works well and is pretty cheap. My Mama made the best fried chicken in the world and she used Crisco..from the can. lol.

I think canola blows goats. Doesn't smell good; loses viscosity in half the time of corn oil, or sunflower oil. Peanut is great.

I'm good with collard greens make with a big neck bone in it.

+1 on the mustard. Best green there is. Crisco shohtnin' or lard, baby. If you're gonna fry chicken, gotta use real fat.

Rapeseed consumption has been related to degenerative brain conditions in cattle the ingest it. I don't know if you could prove rapeseed oil as a poison. Just smells unnatural to me. Also, doesn't last like corn, or even nasty vegetable, in the deep fryer.

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 02:12:07 +0100, Gorio
> wrote:

>
>bigwheel;1947242 Wrote:
>> Guess them yankees in SC can keep the collards. They always taste like
>> they have a squashed stink bug in there. Now mustard greens are a
>> delight. Love the early crop raw in a salad. Much healthier and tastier
>> than ice berg lettuce. Canola oil is a poison. I would not use it.
>> Peanut oil is very hard to beat for heavy duty frying chores. We also
>> use a lot of heat tolerant Olive Oil. Kroger Light works well and is
>> pretty cheap. My Mama made the best fried chicken in the world and she
>> used Crisco..from the can. lol.
>
>I think canola blows goats. Doesn't smell good; loses viscosity in half
>the time of corn oil, or sunflower oil. Peanut is great.
>
>I'm good with collard greens make with a big neck bone in it.
>
>+1 on the mustard. Best green there is. Crisco shohtnin' or lard, baby.
>If you're gonna fry chicken, gotta use real fat.
>
>Rapeseed consumption has been related to degenerative brain conditions
>in cattle the ingest it. I don't know if you could prove rapeseed oil as
>a poison. Just smells unnatural to me. Also, doesn't last like corn, or
>even nasty vegetable, in the deep fryer.

Besides olive oil and avocado oil, I've started using rice bran oil
also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_bran_oil

koko

> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 02:12:07 +0100, Gorio
> > wrote:
> >
> >Rapeseed consumption has been related to degenerative brain conditions
> >in cattle the ingest it.

urban myth

http://www.canolacouncil.org/oil-and...ola-the-myths-
debunked/#IsCanolaSafe

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/canola.asp

The feeding of rapeseed oil was certainly NOT implicated in the UK
BSE epidemic in cattle nor has it been removed from UK cattle feed as
claimed by the myth, nor was/is the UK population warned not to eat rape
oil.

Janet UK

On 7/7/2014 7:39 PM, koko wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 02:12:07 +0100, Gorio
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> bigwheel;1947242 Wrote:
>>> Guess them yankees in SC can keep the collards. They always taste like
>>> they have a squashed stink bug in there.
(snippage)
> koko
>
Sorry, but I've got the foodbanter trolls blocked. I didn't intend for
them to go off on tangents about rapeseed/canola oil. All I did was
offer a video (which they probably didn't watch) about the food at
Gullah Grub Restaurant.

Jill

On 7/7/2014 8:05 PM, Janet wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 02:12:07 +0100, Gorio
>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Rapeseed consumption has been related to degenerative brain conditions
>>> in cattle the ingest it.
>
> urban myth
>
> http://www.canolacouncil.org/oil-and...ola-the-myths-
> debunked/#IsCanolaSafe
>
> http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/canola.asp
>
> The feeding of rapeseed oil was certainly NOT implicated in the UK
> BSE epidemic in cattle nor has it been removed from UK cattle feed as
> claimed by the myth, nor was/is the UK population warned not to eat rape
> oil.
>
> Janet UK
>
Notice the posts come from Foodbanter. It's a web based portal for
people who don't what Usenet is but they have found a way to spew some
BS. Trolls. I killfiled the domain shortly after they started popping up.

Jill

On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 05:41:30 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> Notice the posts come from Foodbanter. It's a web based portal for
> people who don't what Usenet is but they have found a way to spew some
> BS. Trolls. I killfiled the domain shortly after they started popping up.

I don't see them either.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

There is certainly something in Rape Seed/Canola oil that does not agree with my metabolism. It gives me indigestion from heck. So does Cottonseed oil. From Coconut oil to hog lard..the rest of it don't bother me the least.

Ok..go back to sleep.