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On 7/8/2014 4:29 PM, Nellie wrote:
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> Hmmm, mine are really small. One is flat and about half of the size
> of the phone. I can put it and my phone into the pocket of my jeans,
> khakis, or whatever. The other one is even smaller, just lightly
> larger than a lipstick, but it's better for purse than pocket.
>
> We got them at Fry's Electronics.
>
> Nellie
>


Mine's about the size of a lipstick. My purse is huge, though. I often
joke that it's the cause of my back problems.

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On 7/8/2014 1:33 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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> Jill, you have landline in your house so yes, you don't need a cell
> phone for the house ... BUT when you are out or travelling????


I got my first cell phone in 1995, and that was only because my car
broke down while I was driving on a highway. I had to walk miles to get
to a pay phone. At the time I was taking night classes and driving about
45 mins to get there and back and I worried about breaking down at
night. I don't feel safe if I'm out and don't have my phone with me.

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On 7/8/2014 9:42 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 7/7/2014 11:09 PM, Cheryl wrote:
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>>
>> We have lines long enough some times that I dread shopping. The worst
>> thing for my back is to be standing in one place without moving.
>> Incredibly painful.
>>

>
> We try to avoid the busy times. Mon. Tues, Wed are great. If we go on a
> Sat or Sun it is for one or two things so we can use the express lane.
> Standing and not moving is tough on arthritic knees too.


It sure is. I have those, too. I'll have to try to find the times when
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> On 7/7/2014 5:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>>
>>> As an offshoot of this discussion, I'd like to know why so many people
>>> from *around the world* flock to Graceland in Memphis, TN, every year,
>>> twice a year. First for Elvis Presley's birthday, then for what we
>>> used to laughingly call "Elvis Death Week". They hold candlelight
>>> vigils for a man who basically killed himself as a result of drug
>>> abuse. They weep and cry and bring flowers. I certainly don't
>>> understand it.
>>>
>>> Fact: before Elvis' remains were interred on the grounds of Graceland
>>> (his home/estate) he was buried in Memorial Park Cemetery. Someone
>>> tried to dig up his body. Who the hell does that?! What were they
>>> planning to do, stash him in the attic? Conclusion: some people are
>>> just plain crazy.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> I don't get that either. I used to work with this mannish woman who was
>> just gaga over Elvis. She was in some sort of club for him and was
>> convinced that he was still alive.
>>

> Lots of people think he's still alive. If so, he'd be nearly 80 years old
> now.
>
>> I don't get the appeal. My dad was fond of him although nothing to that
>> extent. He said that he went to one of his concerts and watched the
>> women swoon. I have seen his movies. I just don't get the appeal.

>
> Some of his music was fine. He was a ground-breaker for rock & roll in
> the US. When he died my mother did shed a tear. She was a young woman
> when she first heard the music.
>
> There was one semi-serious movie he did with Mary Tyler Moore called
> 'Change of Habit'.
>
> Here's a clip:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gijhxdK16O0
>
> It's the only Elvis movie that wasn't completely goofy. IMHO. He
> portrayed a doctor trying to help inner city people. He didn't know the
> nurses who came to help with his practice in the "slums" were nuns. They
> were told to wear street clothes and not tell anyone they were nuns. It
> was a fun movie. Of course they had to work in Elvis' music.


Interesting. Don't think I have seen that one.

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On 7/8/2014 4:45 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:08:26 -0700 (PDT), Nellie >
> wrote:
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>> <chuckle> Well, I guess that is one solution.

>
> I get it and if I still sewed, I'd probably do it - but I just can't
> bring myself to pay someone for that when the manufacturer should be
> doing it for me. Men get deep pockets in their pants, why don't
> women?
>


I used to have dress pants with a pocket in the pocket for a cell phone.
That's handy because you can carry a phone and keys in the same pocket.
If you ask me, all pants pocket should have one of these even women's
pants. This should be obvious and elementary.


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> On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 23:21:53 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
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>> D got it for me but he can't remember from where He says he found it
>> on
>> Amazon but bought it from the dealer.

>
> That's okay. Just take the back off your phone and look at the
> battery. The make/model details I need are printed on it. I can look
> it up and see if it works with my phone too. If it doesn't, then I'll
> be able to figure out if there's a equivalent that does work with my
> phone. I would love to have a better battery that isn't so thick it
> needs a new back cover.


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> On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:42:17 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
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>> On 7/7/2014 11:09 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > We have lines long enough some times that I dread shopping. The worst
>> > thing for my back is to be standing in one place without moving.
>> > Incredibly painful.
>> >

>>
>> We try to avoid the busy times. Mon. Tues, Wed are great. If we go on a
>> Sat or Sun it is for one or two things so we can use the express lane.
>> Standing and not moving is tough on arthritic knees too.

>
> Back in the day, I read on usenet (rfc) that midnight shopping was a
> breeze, so I tried it once. I had never been in a longer line than
> the one I was in at midnight and all the open aisles were equally
> impacted so I had no choice. I was in line for 45 minutes! That
> experience not only cured me of late night grocery shopping, I learned
> to take claims like that (from strangers on the internet) with a very
> large grain of salt.


My best time is mornings around 9am.


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> On 7/8/2014 1:33 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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>> Jill, you have landline in your house so yes, you don't need a cell
>> phone for the house ... BUT when you are out or travelling????

>
> I got my first cell phone in 1995, and that was only because my car broke
> down while I was driving on a highway. I had to walk miles to get to a pay
> phone. At the time I was taking night classes and driving about 45 mins to
> get there and back and I worried about breaking down at night. I don't
> feel safe if I'm out and don't have my phone with me.


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On 7/8/2014 9:15 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 7/8/2014 8:21 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 7/8/2014 2:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> We're getting way too dependent on cell phones. OTOH, if you have to get
>>> a smart phone you can't do better than a Nexus 5. It's made my life
>>> worth living again! :-)

>> We both have the Nexus 5, and find it extremely useful. The only thing
>> that bothers me is the lack of a swappable battery.

> As it goes, it's not too difficult to change the battery in the Nexus 5.
> The main difference from other phones is that the battery has adhesive
> strips on both sides and uses a couple of flex connectors. The adhesive
> strips contributes greatly to the solid feel of the phone. That's rather
> clever - using the battery as a structural member. The back cover itself
> is rather flimsy but this construction makes casual battery swapping not
> practical.


Yes - replaceable, but not swappable.
For my older smartphone, I bought a couple of standard batteries and a
fairly bulky extra capacity one, so I could swap out when travelling,
when it wasn't possible/convenient to recharge. For the Nexus, I have a
high-capacity external battery/charger thing, but it's less convenient
than slipping in a fresh battery.
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On 2014-07-08 10:45 PM, sf wrote:
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> I get it and if I still sewed, I'd probably do it - but I just can't
> bring myself to pay someone for that when the manufacturer should be
> doing it for me. Men get deep pockets in their pants, why don't
> women?


Men are smart enough not to buy pants without pockets?


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In article >,
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> On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:42:17 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > On 7/7/2014 11:09 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > We have lines long enough some times that I dread shopping. The worst
> > > thing for my back is to be standing in one place without moving.
> > > Incredibly painful.
> > >

> >
> > We try to avoid the busy times. Mon. Tues, Wed are great. If we go on a
> > Sat or Sun it is for one or two things so we can use the express lane.
> > Standing and not moving is tough on arthritic knees too.

>
> Back in the day, I read on usenet (rfc) that midnight shopping was a
> breeze, so I tried it once. I had never been in a longer line than
> the one I was in at midnight and all the open aisles were equally
> impacted so I had no choice. I was in line for 45 minutes! That
> experience not only cured me of late night grocery shopping, I learned
> to take claims like that (from strangers on the internet) with a very
> large grain of salt.


Holy Cow. In smkts here, if we have to queue behind more than three
customers we start kicking up a fuss. Then they open another till, even
managers turn out to do it.

http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/home/topi...gy-and-supply-
chain/cameras-roll-as-asda-looks-to-halve-queues/225090.article?
redirCanon=1

"Asda customers queued for an average of 2 minutes 32 seconds; Tesco
boasted 2 minutes 19 seconds".

Asda = Walmart.

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> When I was back in HS, I recall a friend visiting her grandmother in
> the PI (Philippine Islands). She was amazed that her grandmother
> lived in what we would consider a hut, with a dirt floor that had a
> central fire for cooking purposes and a hole in the roof where the
> smoke escaped.


Yikes! >:-[]
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On 7/8/2014 10:37 PM, sf wrote:
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> Back in the day, I read on usenet (rfc) that midnight shopping was a
> breeze, so I tried it once. I had never been in a longer line than
> the one I was in at midnight and all the open aisles were equally
> impacted so I had no choice. I was in line for 45 minutes! That
> experience not only cured me of late night grocery shopping, I learned
> to take claims like that (from strangers on the internet) with a very
> large grain of salt.
>


Was it the last day of the month? I read that a lot of EBT card holders
shop late on the last day then head for the checkout at midnight when
the new allotment is available.

When the kids were little, I'd sometimes go late after they were n bed
and my wife could get a break. Most times it was OK.

I'm 20% retired now and don't work on Wednesday so we can do thing that
day to miss the crowds.


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On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:38:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
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> > When I was back in HS, I recall a friend visiting her grandmother in
> > the PI (Philippine Islands). She was amazed that her grandmother
> > lived in what we would consider a hut, with a dirt floor that had a
> > central fire for cooking purposes and a hole in the roof where the
> > smoke escaped.

>
> Yikes! >:-[]


Yes. It was primitive living, for sure.

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On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 21:07:07 -1000, dsi1
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> On 7/8/2014 4:45 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:08:26 -0700 (PDT), Nellie >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> <chuckle> Well, I guess that is one solution.

> >
> > I get it and if I still sewed, I'd probably do it - but I just can't
> > bring myself to pay someone for that when the manufacturer should be
> > doing it for me. Men get deep pockets in their pants, why don't
> > women?
> >

>
> I used to have dress pants with a pocket in the pocket for a cell phone.
> That's handy because you can carry a phone and keys in the same pocket.
> If you ask me, all pants pocket should have one of these even women's
> pants. This should be obvious and elementary.


You'd think so.

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On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 06:57:36 -0400, Dave Smith
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> On 2014-07-08 10:45 PM, sf wrote:
> >
> > I get it and if I still sewed, I'd probably do it - but I just can't
> > bring myself to pay someone for that when the manufacturer should be
> > doing it for me. Men get deep pockets in their pants, why don't
> > women?

>
> Men are smart enough not to buy pants without pockets?
>

Men are smart enough not to carry purses too.

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> I sometimes forget the list. ;-)


I've done that too. Now, I keep the master list in my van and a temp
list in my kitchen. Each day I transfer the temp list to the one in
the van. Batteries not included
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> Well, here we go again with the cell/smartphone thing. Since they don't
> work well where I live I'm certainly not paying an extra monthly bill
> just to have one.


But yet, you recently were against them putting up a cell tower near
you. Save the amimals or some protest like that.

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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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> I'm 20% retired now and don't work on Wednesday so we can do thing that
> day to miss the crowds.


Where I am Wednesdays are a busy day because the new weekly ads/specials
start that day. I usually do my shopping in the wee hours of the morning, so
not too many lines at all.

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>> I sometimes forget the list. ;-)

>
> I've done that too. Now, I keep the master list in my van and a temp
> list in my kitchen. Each day I transfer the temp list to the one in
> the van. Batteries not included.


That makes sense.

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On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 10:28:52 +0100, "Ophelia"
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>
> "sf" > wrote in message
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> > On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 23:21:53 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> D got it for me but he can't remember from where He says he found it
> >> on
> >> Amazon but bought it from the dealer.

> >
> > That's okay. Just take the back off your phone and look at the
> > battery. The make/model details I need are printed on it. I can look
> > it up and see if it works with my phone too. If it doesn't, then I'll
> > be able to figure out if there's a equivalent that does work with my
> > phone. I would love to have a better battery that isn't so thick it
> > needs a new back cover.

>
> Samsung 3.8 volt lithium ion 5.70 Wh 1,500 m A h


Thanks! Mine is a different shape but 1500 aAh, so I guess lithium
makes all the difference. The only one I found for my phone has mixed
reviews at best.

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On 7/9/2014 10:58 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 06:57:36 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-08 10:45 PM, sf wrote:
>>>
>>> I get it and if I still sewed, I'd probably do it - but I just can't
>>> bring myself to pay someone for that when the manufacturer should be
>>> doing it for me. Men get deep pockets in their pants, why don't
>>> women?

>>
>> Men are smart enough not to buy pants without pockets?
>>

> Men are smart enough not to carry purses too.
>


I never figured out the big pocketbook thing. Pocketless styles are a
problem, but most times you need keys, money, driver's license, yet I
see women with 30# bags of travel accessories.


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On 7/9/2014 11:58 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> I never figured out the big pocketbook thing. Pocketless styles are a
> problem, but most times you need keys, money, driver's license, yet I
> see women with 30# bags of travel accessories.


The bigger the bag, the more stuff winds up in there. I have
to look a long time to find one that isn't too big or too
small, just enough to carry my wallet, a hairbrush, tissues.

They have organizers that are bigger than my bag that you
put into those huge bags to help you find your stuff in
those cavernous spaces.

I saw an article somewhere recently that had must haves to
carry in your bag. One of the items was a to-go can of
WD=40. Yeah, wreck your back carrying around every little
thing you might possibly need, ever.

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> I barely knew who O.J. Simpson was (football player but I don't watch
> football and don't know why that makes someone famous) until the murder
> trial. I remember watching that "low speed chase" on television and
> laughing about it.


That "low speed chase" was so silly. The cops should have just driven
up next to his car and shot him. heheh
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> jmcquown wrote:
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> > I barely knew who O.J. Simpson was (football player but I don't watch
> > football and don't know why that makes someone famous) until the murder
> > trial. I remember watching that "low speed chase" on television and
> > laughing about it.

>
> That "low speed chase" was so silly. The cops should have just driven
> up next to his car and shot him. heheh


Police brutality!

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On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:54:09 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 7/8/2014 10:37 PM, sf wrote:
> >
> > Back in the day, I read on usenet (rfc) that midnight shopping was a
> > breeze, so I tried it once. I had never been in a longer line than
> > the one I was in at midnight and all the open aisles were equally
> > impacted so I had no choice. I was in line for 45 minutes! That
> > experience not only cured me of late night grocery shopping, I learned
> > to take claims like that (from strangers on the internet) with a very
> > large grain of salt.
> >

>
> Was it the last day of the month?


I don't remember, but probably not.

> I read that a lot of EBT card holders
> shop late on the last day then head for the checkout at midnight when
> the new allotment is available.


Not that I could tell. They looked like ordinary middle class people
to me. Everyone was fairly well dressed considering it was midnight;
in fact I was probably the worst dressed of the lot. In any case,
transaction time wasn't the issue. The problem was the sheer number
of people vs the number of checkout lines that were open. I never did
that again, so I have no other data to relate.
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On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 07:42:47 -0400, Nancy Young
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> Grocery store lines never get to that point where I live, I suppose
> at some point during the holidays they must get bad but I don't
> shop then.


Holiday grocery shopping here is a breeze because they add more people
to the crew. Shopping after Jan1 is slower.

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> Just yesterday I saw a young visitor (probably someone's grandchild)
> standing in the middle of the (paved) street so she could get a signal
> on her cell phone. Why would I pay another monthly bill for something I
> can't use in my own home? Never mind.


Again....just a few months ago, you were against a cell tower being
erected in your area so you COULD get good cell phone access.
According to you, it would hurt the environment or something. Save a
clam, eh?

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On 2014-07-09 11:58 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> I never figured out the big pocketbook thing. Pocketless styles are a
> problem, but most times you need keys, money, driver's license, yet I
> see women with 30# bags of travel accessories.



Back in the 1970s I was in a menswear store to look for a shirt. I found
a nice one but I noticed that it had no chest pocket. I told the
salesman I was not interested because it had not pocket. He told me
they were making mens shirts with chest pockets anymore. I told him I
was not buying one without a pocket. I don't think that I changed
their minds singled handed, but I imagine that enough men refused that
they had to go back to pockets.
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