On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 08:22:09 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 14:40:26 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
<snip>
>>Also, I neglected to mention that I will be freezing most of these
>>patties. Interested to hear any tips or tricks you have for portioning
>>them and preparing them for the freezer? I vac-pac mine, usually.
>
>I shape them, put them between two sheets of freezer paper that I have
>cut to fit and over-wrap each one with plastic wrap. I freeze them on
>a sheet pan then put them in a freezer zip bag. I don't always freeze
>patties, but during the summer it is handy to grab a couple for the
>grill when it is too hot to cook.

That's basically my plan behind these patties - something quick and
easy to make for dinner.

On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 10:59:30 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> My favourite thing to do with either Roo or Wallaby is to make
>> patties. If I don't say anything, most people think it's beef...
>> I shot a wallaby in the wee hours of this morning and will leave it to
>> hang until late tomorrow - then mince the hind legs up and make the
>> patties. Winnie the dog can have the rest.
>>
>> This is a pretty good basic recipe:
>> http://www.sallywise.com.au/blog/kangaroo-patties/
>> although I see no point in adding beef mince. I have some fatty mutton
>> in the freezer and will add either that or bacon... most likely the
>> mutton, I reckon.
>>
>> Sometimes I like to use cauliflower in the pattie mix instead - I'd
>> like to know what ingredients you use in your patties, if you make
>> them? I'm especially interested in finding other fruit or veggies to
>> add, instead of using apple or cauliflower.
>>
>>
>> Dinner tonight is simmering away on the fi slow cooked leg of lamb,
>> with garlic, onions, carrots and peas, some fresh thyme and rosemary,
>> and stock made from my leftover lamb shanks from a couple of weeks
>> ago. Will make a big pot of mashed potato too. I just realised I
>> forgot the bay leaf... I'd better go and get one now
>
>Lucky you We can buy kangeroo steaks here in the wholesalers, but it's
>not quite the same as shooting your own)

It's a lot cheaper, too. I'm amazed at the prices for Roo in the
supermarkets here. I used to shoot them from my verandah, which was
very handy... but now I have fenced off the yard around the house, so
I just have to go for a bit of walk now.

On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 08:17:53 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 07:03:15 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:00:51 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Why, we can buy it here.
>>
>>Hardly surprising since it's part of whatever you call the greater UK
>>universe.
>
>It's closer to ship it to the Phillipines than it is to Scotland

Australian has had closer ties and links to ASIA for decades now than
with the U.K, or anywhere else for that matter. I see that Wikipedia
states that kangaroo is exported to over 55 countries, but doesnt
specify which countries.

On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:00:51 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 00:12:59 -0400, Travis McGee >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> When I was in the Philippines I had a meal of kangaroo; I believe it was
>>> loin, but I don't recall for sure. It was charbroiled, medium well.
>>>
>>> I liked it; it had a nice beefy taste, slightly smoky from the fire. It
>>> was a bit chewy, but not unpleasantly so.
>>
>> I don't associate either kangaroo with Philippine cuisine and think
>> you were duped.
>
>Why, we can buy it here.

As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
have kangaroo <shrug>.

On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 08:06:03 +1000, John > wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 09:20:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 16:49:42 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 16:13:28 +0100, "Ophelia"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:00:51 +0100, "Ophelia"
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> > On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 00:12:59 -0400, Travis McGee >
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> When I was in the Philippines I had a meal of kangaroo; I believe
> >> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> >> was
> >> >> >> >> loin, but I don't recall for sure. It was charbroiled, medium well.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I liked it; it had a nice beefy taste, slightly smoky from the
> >> >> >> >> fire.
> >> >> >> >> It
> >> >> >> >> was a bit chewy, but not unpleasantly so.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I don't associate either kangaroo with Philippine cuisine and think
> >> >> >> > you were duped.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why, we can buy it here.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hardly surprising since it's part of whatever you call the greater UK
> >> >> > universe.
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you sure it is not part of what *you* call the greater UK universe?
> >> >> Not
> >> >> something I've ever said or even thought, nor do I know anyone who does.
> >> >
> >> > I have trouble keeping track of what's called what in the minds of
> >> > Brits.
> >>
> >> Thank You Very Much! I won't be rude and say what I think is in yours.
> >
> >GB, UK, England, British Isles, I'm sure there's more - I need a
> >scorecard to keep track of what's what.
>
> US, America, United States, Disney World, Hawaii... so confusing!

Not a good comparison, John.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:13:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

> As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
> have kangaroo <shrug>.

Get over yourself. My point is, unlike your situation, it's not on
the common person's dinner table. Maybe they serve it to rich Asian
tourists, but I've never heard any Filipino talk about eating kangaroo
in the PI.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On 7/6/2014 8:58 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:13:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
>> have kangaroo <shrug>.
>
> Get over yourself. My point is, unlike your situation, it's not on
> the common person's dinner table. Maybe they serve it to rich Asian
> tourists, but I've never heard any Filipino talk about eating kangaroo
> in the PI.
>

This was at a pretty good hotel, the New World in Makati, around the
year 2000. They had several restaurants; the one that served kangaroo
was pretty upscale. They had prime rib, steaks, and various ethnic
cuisines. It was expensive, but I was on an expense account, so I didn't
care.

They did "themes" from time to time, and the kangaroo was available
during "Australian Month". They actually had a large inflated kangaroo
at the entrance to the restaurant for the month. Kangaroo was not
normally on the menu, so I expect that it was authentic, brought in just
for that month's theme.

I ate a lot of Filipino food while I was there, over the course of
several years, and never saw kangaroo at any other time.

On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:58:29 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:13:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
>> have kangaroo <shrug>.
>
>Get over yourself. My point is, unlike your situation, it's not on
>the common person's dinner table. Maybe they serve it to rich Asian
>tourists, but I've never heard any Filipino talk about eating kangaroo
>in the PI.

No. That's wasn't your point at all. You said you thought Travis had
been duped, which implies you think something other than kangaroo had
been served up to him.

Again you try to move the goal posts, it's quite a habit of yours.

Yep, this is exactly what I do too.

Nellie

On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:19:05 -0400, Travis McGee >
wrote:

> On 7/6/2014 8:58 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:13:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> >> As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
> >> have kangaroo <shrug>.
> >
> > Get over yourself. My point is, unlike your situation, it's not on
> > the common person's dinner table. Maybe they serve it to rich Asian
> > tourists, but I've never heard any Filipino talk about eating kangaroo
> > in the PI.
> >
>
> This was at a pretty good hotel, the New World in Makati, around the
> year 2000. They had several restaurants; the one that served kangaroo
> was pretty upscale. They had prime rib, steaks, and various ethnic
> cuisines. It was expensive, but I was on an expense account, so I didn't
> care.
>
> They did "themes" from time to time, and the kangaroo was available
> during "Australian Month". They actually had a large inflated kangaroo
> at the entrance to the restaurant for the month. Kangaroo was not
> normally on the menu, so I expect that it was authentic, brought in just
> for that month's theme.
>
> I ate a lot of Filipino food while I was there, over the course of
> several years, and never saw kangaroo at any other time.

Thank you, that was my point.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:41:09 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:58:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:13:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> >> As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
> >> have kangaroo <shrug>.
> >
> >Get over yourself. My point is, unlike your situation, it's not on
> >the common person's dinner table. Maybe they serve it to rich Asian
> >tourists, but I've never heard any Filipino talk about eating kangaroo
> >in the PI.
>
> No. That's wasn't your point at all. You said you thought Travis had
> been duped, which implies you think something other than kangaroo had
> been served up to him.
>
> Again you try to move the goal posts, it's quite a habit of yours.

Oh, no. I point out the obvious and people like you try to say it's
an untruth.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 12:13:09 +1000, John > wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:58:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:13:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> >> As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
> >> have kangaroo <shrug>.
> >
> >Get over yourself. My point is, unlike your situation, it's not on
> >the common person's dinner table. Maybe they serve it to rich Asian
> >tourists, but I've never heard any Filipino talk about eating kangaroo
> >in the PI.
>
> Most Australians don't even eat it or, if they're countryfolk, feed
> it to the dogs. But it's very nice meat.

Jebus is in the outback or whatever you call the middle of nowhere in
Australia; which is why he's trying to say home schooling is common
among normal Australians and that kangaroo is commonly consumed in the
PI.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On 7/7/2014 12:46 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:41:09 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:58:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:13:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
>>>> have kangaroo <shrug>.
>>>
>>> Get over yourself. My point is, unlike your situation, it's not on
>>> the common person's dinner table. Maybe they serve it to rich Asian
>>> tourists, but I've never heard any Filipino talk about eating kangaroo
>>> in the PI.
>>
>> No. That's wasn't your point at all. You said you thought Travis had
>> been duped, which implies you think something other than kangaroo had
>> been served up to him.
>>
>> Again you try to move the goal posts, it's quite a habit of yours.
>
> Oh, no. I point out the obvious and people like you try to say it's
> an untruth.
>

I'd like to mention also, as evidence that this was truly kangaroo, that
I felt jumpy for days afterwards.

On Sunday, July 6, 2014 9:52:24 PM UTC-7, Travis McGee wrote:
> On 7/7/2014 12:46 AM, sf wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:41:09 +1000, Je�us > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:58:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:13:16 +1000, Je�us > wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
>
> >>>> have kangaroo <shrug>.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Get over yourself. My point is, unlike your situation, it's not on
>
> >>> the common person's dinner table. Maybe they serve it to rich Asian
>
> >>> tourists, but I've never heard any Filipino talk about eating kangaroo
>
> >>> in the PI.
>
> >>
>
> >> No. That's wasn't your point at all. You said you thought Travis had
>
> >> been duped, which implies you think something other than kangaroo had
>
> >> been served up to him.
>
> >>
>
> >> Again you try to move the goal posts, it's quite a habit of yours.
>
> >
>
> > Oh, no. I point out the obvious and people like you try to say it's
>
> > an untruth.
>
> >
>
>
>
> I'd like to mention also, as evidence that this was truly kangaroo, that
>
> I felt jumpy for days afterwards.



Lol!

Nellie

On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:46:12 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:41:09 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:58:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:13:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >
>> >> As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
>> >> have kangaroo <shrug>.
>> >
>> >Get over yourself. My point is, unlike your situation, it's not on
>> >the common person's dinner table. Maybe they serve it to rich Asian
>> >tourists, but I've never heard any Filipino talk about eating kangaroo
>> >in the PI.
>>
>> No. That's wasn't your point at all. You said you thought Travis had
>> been duped, which implies you think something other than kangaroo had
>> been served up to him.
>>
>> Again you try to move the goal posts, it's quite a habit of yours.
>
>Oh, no. I point out the obvious and people like you try to say it's
>an untruth.

Message-ID: >
"I don't associate either kangaroo with Philippine cuisine and think
you were duped". You said that. And you're /still/ trying to move the
goal posts...

On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:51:28 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 12:13:09 +1000, John > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:58:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:13:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >
>> >> As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
>> >> have kangaroo <shrug>.
>> >
>> >Get over yourself. My point is, unlike your situation, it's not on
>> >the common person's dinner table. Maybe they serve it to rich Asian
>> >tourists, but I've never heard any Filipino talk about eating kangaroo
>> >in the PI.
>>
>> Most Australians don't even eat it or, if they're countryfolk, feed
>> it to the dogs. But it's very nice meat.
>
>Jebus is in the outback or whatever you call the middle of nowhere in
>Australia;

No, I am not anywhere near the 'outback'.

> which is why he's trying to say home schooling is common
>among normal Australians

I never said that, you liar. Show us where I said that.

>and that kangaroo is commonly consumed in the
>PI.

I never said that either, liar. Show us where I said that.

In article >,
says...

>
> Jebus is in the outback or whatever you call the middle of nowhere in
> Australia;

Tasmania is an island, it's not in the Australian outback.

For someone who likes to present herself as a sophisticated
international traveller you just can't help making a fool of yourself
over and over again by displaying your global ignorance.

Janet UK

On 7/6/2014 9:41 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:58:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:13:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>> As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
>>> have kangaroo <shrug>.
>>
>> Get over yourself. My point is, unlike your situation, it's not on
>> the common person's dinner table. Maybe they serve it to rich Asian
>> tourists, but I've never heard any Filipino talk about eating kangaroo
>> in the PI.
>
> No. That's wasn't your point at all. You said you thought Travis had
> been duped, which implies you think something other than kangaroo had
> been served up to him.
>
> Again you try to move the goal posts, it's quite a habit of yours.
>
Except Travis responded to sf:

They did "themes" from time to time, and the kangaroo was available
during "Australian Month". They actually had a large inflated kangaroo
at the entrance to the restaurant for the month. Kangaroo was not
normally on the menu, so I expect that it was authentic, brought in just
for that month's theme.

Now, I understand you're saying why couldn't they have it in the
Phillipines? But apparently, at least at this one hotel where Travis
stayed, it was not a regular thing.

Jill
Jill

On 7/7/2014 7:37 AM, John wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:51:28 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 12:13:09 +1000, John > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:58:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:13:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
>>>>> have kangaroo <shrug>.
>>>>
>>>> Get over yourself. My point is, unlike your situation, it's not on
>>>> the common person's dinner table. Maybe they serve it to rich Asian
>>>> tourists, but I've never heard any Filipino talk about eating kangaroo
>>>> in the PI.
>>>
>>> Most Australians don't even eat it or, if they're countryfolk, feed
>>> it to the dogs. But it's very nice meat.
>>
>> Jebus is in the outback or whatever you call the middle of nowhere in
>> Australia;ew
>
> This is where he's from:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91JR8cbpqUA&t=1m7s
>
> It could actually be him.
>

A great book from a few years back: "Carnivorous Nights: On the Trail of
the Tasmanian Tiger".

I worked with a lot of Australians on that project, but no Tasmanians.

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 11:45:35 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
>
> >
> > Jebus is in the outback or whatever you call the middle of nowhere in
> > Australia;
>
> Tasmania is an island, it's not in the Australian outback.

Actually, I didn't realize he was in Tasmania. But it still figures.
>
> For someone who likes to present herself as a sophisticated
> international traveller you just can't help making a fool of yourself
> over and over again by displaying your global ignorance.
>
And you're a total bitch whenever you can manage it, which is quite
often.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 00:52:24 -0400, Travis McGee >
wrote:

> >
>
> I'd like to mention also, as evidence that this was truly kangaroo, that
> I felt jumpy for days afterwards.

LOL

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 08:00:02 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 7/6/2014 9:41 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:58:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:13:16 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> As with most any other country. Not sure why the Philippines shouldn't
>>>> have kangaroo <shrug>.
>>>
>>> Get over yourself. My point is, unlike your situation, it's not on
>>> the common person's dinner table. Maybe they serve it to rich Asian
>>> tourists, but I've never heard any Filipino talk about eating kangaroo
>>> in the PI.
>>
>> No. That's wasn't your point at all. You said you thought Travis had
>> been duped, which implies you think something other than kangaroo had
>> been served up to him.
>>
>> Again you try to move the goal posts, it's quite a habit of yours.
>>
>Except Travis responded to sf:
>
>They did "themes" from time to time, and the kangaroo was available
>during "Australian Month". They actually had a large inflated kangaroo
>at the entrance to the restaurant for the month. Kangaroo was not
>normally on the menu, so I expect that it was authentic, brought in just
>for that month's theme.
>
>Now, I understand you're saying why couldn't they have it in the
>Phillipines? But apparently, at least at this one hotel where Travis
>stayed, it was not a regular thing.

Agree about that. I was referring to sf's earlier comment, not what
Travis said.

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 11:45:35 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>
>> Jebus is in the outback or whatever you call the middle of nowhere in
>> Australia;
>
> Tasmania is an island, it's not in the Australian outback.
>
> For someone who likes to present herself as a sophisticated
>international traveller you just can't help making a fool of yourself
>over and over again by displaying your global ignorance.

She probably knows. Although I've always said she has a very special
blend of ignorance and arrogance. She just loves being a bitch. Can
you imagine being a student in her class if she took a dislike to you?
I'll bet anything she did exactly that too, more than once. It's in
her personality.