http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
rations-diet

http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux

http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/

"There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
during World War II. "

Tara

In article >, jarvis57
@ix.netcom.com says...
>
> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
> rations-diet
>
> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>
> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>
> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
> during World War II. "
>
> Tara

https://1940sexperiment.wordpress.co...carolyn-ekins/

quote

"TODAY, this morning, after one year, of living on wartime rations, I
weighed in at 219 lbs (15 st 7 lbs)?I?ve lost 80 lbs in one year!"

(and more interesting stuff about her weight loss efforts)

Janet UK

On 7/7/2014 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:

> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
> rations-diet
>
> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>
> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>
> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
> during World War II. "
>
> Tara
>
Interesting. I hope she has access to the veggies and fruit that those
who were forced into the rationing had access to, otherwise she is going
to get very sick from malnutrition.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

On 7/7/2014 7:49 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/7/2014 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:
>
>> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
>> rations-diet
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>>
>> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>>
>> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
>> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
>> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
>> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
>> during World War II. "
>>
>> Tara
>>
> Interesting. I hope she has access to the veggies and fruit that those
> who were forced into the rationing had access to, otherwise she is going
> to get very sick from malnutrition.
>

Diet via wartime rationing/deprivation. What a strange concept. Yeah,
just pretend the bombs are falling and you can't get any food. That
will make you lose weight. Better yet, push away from the table.

At least she got her name in the news. That's what counts.

Jill

On 2014-07-07 19:32, wrote:

>> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
>> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
>> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
>> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
>> during World War II. "
>>
>> Tara
>
> Mostly war time food was scarce and pretty boring. My female
> relatives were all pretty good in the kitchen but it was more than a
> challenge.
>
> The one thing
I take from it, never waste. I still don't.



My father spent a few years in the UK during the war. Judging by the
photos of him from the war years he was pretty slim. He lost a lot of
weight during the week or so that he was in Denmark after being shot
down and had to walk across Sjaelland from Korsor to Copenhagen. He
eventually made contact with Resistance and was smuggled over to Sweden
where he spent a couple weeks. He had a lot more and much better food
there that he had been getting in England. Their special meal before
heading out on bombing operations was eggs and chips.

Cookery in War Time - a historical cookbook linked from the blog. I am
fascinated with historical cookbooks.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byqn...N00/edit?pli=1

Tara

In article >,
says...
>
> On 7/7/2014 7:49 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> > On 7/7/2014 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
> >> rations-diet
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
> >>
> >> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
> >>
> >> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
> >> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
> >> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
> >> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
> >> during World War II. "
> >>
> >> Tara
> >>
> > Interesting. I hope she has access to the veggies and fruit that those
> > who were forced into the rationing had access to, otherwise she is going
> > to get very sick from malnutrition.
> >
>
> Diet via wartime rationing/deprivation. What a strange concept.

Not at all, the UK wartime weekly food rations per person, had been
carefully designed to provide a balanced diet with adequate nutrition.
As a result ofeating that way, by the end of the war the civilian
population were healthier than they had been before it. Obesity was
virtually unknown.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peop...les/nonflash/a
1057240.shtml

Janet UK

On 7/7/2014 8:26 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On 7/7/2014 7:49 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>> On 7/7/2014 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
>>>> rations-diet
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>>>>
>>>> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>>>>
>>>> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
>>>> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
>>>> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
>>>> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
>>>> during World War II. "
>>>>
>>>> Tara
>>>>
>>> Interesting. I hope she has access to the veggies and fruit that those
>>> who were forced into the rationing had access to, otherwise she is going
>>> to get very sick from malnutrition.
>>>
>>
>> Diet via wartime rationing/deprivation. What a strange concept.
>
> Not at all, the UK wartime weekly food rations per person, had been
> carefully designed to provide a balanced diet with adequate nutrition.
> As a result ofeating that way, by the end of the war the civilian
> population were healthier than they had been before it. Obesity was
> virtually unknown.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peop...les/nonflash/a
> 1057240.shtml
>
> Janet UK
>

Except... this person IS apparently obese. Why else would she want to
lose 100 pounds?! If I lost 100 pounds I would weigh maybe 40 lbs. I'd
be a skeleton. A dead skeleton.

The entire "diet" idea is just as ridiculous as ordering frozen food
from Nutrisystem and using those fill-you-up diet "shakes". Sorry if
you don't agree.

The best way to lose weight, IMHO, is to push back from the table. Eat
what you want, but in moderation. Let the food settle; you won't feel
hungry. Really. It works.

Jill

On 7/7/14, 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:

> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
> during World War II. "

Hope she has a taste for really old mutton...

-- Larry

In article >,
says...
>
> On 7/7/2014 8:26 PM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> On 7/7/2014 7:49 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> >>> On 7/7/2014 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
> >>>> rations-diet
> >>>>
> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
> >>>>
> >>>> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
> >>>> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
> >>>> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
> >>>> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
> >>>> during World War II. "
> >>>>
> >>>> Tara
> >>>>
> >>> Interesting. I hope she has access to the veggies and fruit that those
> >>> who were forced into the rationing had access to, otherwise she is going
> >>> to get very sick from malnutrition.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Diet via wartime rationing/deprivation. What a strange concept.
> >
> > Not at all, the UK wartime weekly food rations per person, had been
> > carefully designed to provide a balanced diet with adequate nutrition.
> > As a result ofeating that way, by the end of the war the civilian
> > population were healthier than they had been before it. Obesity was
> > virtually unknown.
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peop...les/nonflash/a
> > 1057240.shtml
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
>
> Except... this person IS apparently obese. Why else would she want to
> lose 100 pounds?! >
> The entire "diet" idea is just as ridiculous as ordering frozen food
> from Nutrisystem and using those fill-you-up diet "shakes".

See the link I posted earlier; she ate according to UK wartime food
rations .. which IS "eating in moderation".. and lost 80 lbs in a year.
Good for her; there's nothing ridiculous about the commitment OR
achievement and the huge improvement she feels in her health and
fitness.

Unlike shakes and readymade diet meals , shopping cooking and eating
that balanced varied moderate diet re-educates the palate, shopping and
food prep habits, so she's far more likely to be able to continue
those habits and keep losing more.

Janet UK

pltrgyst wrote:

> On 7/7/14, 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:
>
>
>
> > "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
>
> > Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
>
> > is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
>
> > diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
>
> > during World War II. "
>
>
>
> Hope she has a taste for really old mutton...


Or snoek...

--
Best
Greg

Janet wrote:

> In article >,
>
> says...
>
> >
>
> > On 7/7/2014 7:49 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>
> > > On 7/7/2014 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
>
> > >> rations-diet
>
> > >>
>
> > >> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>
> > >>
>
> > >> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>
> > >>
>
> > >> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
>
> > >> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
>
> > >> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
>
> > >> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
>
> > >> during World War II. "
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Tara
>
> > >>
>
> > > Interesting. I hope she has access to the veggies and fruit that those
>
> > > who were forced into the rationing had access to, otherwise she is going
>
> > > to get very sick from malnutrition.
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > Diet via wartime rationing/deprivation. What a strange concept.
>
>
>
> Not at all, the UK wartime weekly food rations per person, had been
>
> carefully designed to provide a balanced diet with adequate nutrition.
>
> As a result ofeating that way, by the end of the war the civilian
>
> population were healthier than they had been before it. Obesity was
>
> virtually unknown.

Rates of heart disease, hypertension, and even tooth decay were also way down...white bread was replaced by whole - meal "national loaf". An interesting site:

http://justhungry.com/the-supersizer...k-food-history

--
Best
Greg

On 7/7/2014 9:48 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On 7/7/2014 8:26 PM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On 7/7/2014 7:49 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>>>> On 7/7/2014 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
>>>>>> rations-diet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
>>>>>> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
>>>>>> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
>>>>>> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
>>>>>> during World War II. "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tara
>>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting. I hope she has access to the veggies and fruit that those
>>>>> who were forced into the rationing had access to, otherwise she is going
>>>>> to get very sick from malnutrition.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Diet via wartime rationing/deprivation. What a strange concept.
>>>
>>> Not at all, the UK wartime weekly food rations per person, had been
>>> carefully designed to provide a balanced diet with adequate nutrition.
>>> As a result ofeating that way, by the end of the war the civilian
>>> population were healthier than they had been before it. Obesity was
>>> virtually unknown.
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peop...les/nonflash/a
>>> 1057240.shtml
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>
>> Except... this person IS apparently obese. Why else would she want to
>> lose 100 pounds?! >
>> The entire "diet" idea is just as ridiculous as ordering frozen food
>> from Nutrisystem and using those fill-you-up diet "shakes".
>
> See the link I posted earlier; she ate according to UK wartime food
> rations .. which IS "eating in moderation".. and lost 80 lbs in a year.

She must have been eating a lot of junk to get that overweight in the
first place. People love to slam Americans about obesity but no one
thinks twice and realizes there are obese people in other countries.

> Unlike shakes and readymade diet meals , shopping cooking and eating
> that balanced varied moderate diet

As if I haven't been saying that all along. What was she doing, eating
a bunch of prepared foodstuffs? IMHO, cook and eat fresh food. Eat a
varied diet and eat in moderation and you can pretty much eat what you
like and not become obese.

? re-educates the palate, shopping and
> food prep habits, so she's far more likely to be able to continue
> those habits and keep losing more.
>
> Janet UK
>
Too bad she wasn't taught that before she gained 80-something pounds she
then had to work to lose.

Jill

The best way to lose weight is to become young again, when you would eat like a pig and not gain a pound. It's tough to do, though.

On Monday, July 7, 2014 10:03:17 PM UTC-5, Terrence Crimmins wrote:
>
> The best way to lose weight is to become young again, when you would eat like a pig and not gain a pound. It's tough to do, though.
>
>
Being young has absolutely nothing to do with ones size. I see PLENTY of young people, all under the age of 20, terribly, terribly obese. Even though your comment was meant to be taken with a grain of salt, it's simply not true.

"Tara" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
> rations-diet
>
> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>
> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>
> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
> during World War II. "
>
> Tara

Yes. I have seen that. I have a British cookbook of that era and I have
made several dishes from it. Not sure how such a diet would help with
weight loss though unless perhaps it is just portion control.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/7/2014 8:26 PM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 7/7/2014 7:49 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>>> On 7/7/2014 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
>>>>> rations-diet
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>>>>>
>>>>> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
>>>>> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in
>>>>> Canada,
>>>>> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
>>>>> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
>>>>> during World War II. "
>>>>>
>>>>> Tara
>>>>>
>>>> Interesting. I hope she has access to the veggies and fruit that those
>>>> who were forced into the rationing had access to, otherwise she is
>>>> going
>>>> to get very sick from malnutrition.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Diet via wartime rationing/deprivation. What a strange concept.
>>
>> Not at all, the UK wartime weekly food rations per person, had been
>> carefully designed to provide a balanced diet with adequate nutrition.
>> As a result ofeating that way, by the end of the war the civilian
>> population were healthier than they had been before it. Obesity was
>> virtually unknown.
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peop...les/nonflash/a
>> 1057240.shtml
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>
> Except... this person IS apparently obese. Why else would she want to
> lose 100 pounds?! If I lost 100 pounds I would weigh maybe 40 lbs. I'd
> be a skeleton. A dead skeleton.
>
> The entire "diet" idea is just as ridiculous as ordering frozen food from
> Nutrisystem and using those fill-you-up diet "shakes". Sorry if you don't
> agree.
>
> The best way to lose weight, IMHO, is to push back from the table. Eat
> what you want, but in moderation. Let the food settle; you won't feel
> hungry. Really. It works.
>
> Jill

I am overweight but I couldn't lose 100 pounds either. Diets in general
just don't work. Reason being? The person who is on the diet is looking at
it as a means to lose weight. And all the while they are usually thinking
of all the wonderful food they are going to eat once they get off of the
diet. They see the diet as some sort of miracle. And they see thin or
normal weight people all around them who are eating food that they can't,
because it causes them to gain weight or at least not lose it. What they
don't realize is that those think or normal weight people do not have the
same metabolism that they do and they will never be able to eat like that
and be thin.

Pushing away from the table isn't always the answer either. Sometimes
people haven't a clue what a balanced diet is. Or even if they do, they
chose not to eat that way. So even if people like that were to cut back on
portions, it still wouldn't help them much if they were still eating crap.

I don't have all the answers. If I did, I obviously wouldn't be overweight.
I don't overeat and on most days I even have a tough time taking in 1,000
calories. So that's not the problem there.

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On 7/7/2014 8:26 PM, Janet wrote:
>> > In article >,
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> On 7/7/2014 7:49 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> >>> On 7/7/2014 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
>> >>>> rations-diet
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
>> >>>> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in
>> >>>> Canada,
>> >>>> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime
>> >>>> rations
>> >>>> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
>> >>>> during World War II. "
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tara
>> >>>>
>> >>> Interesting. I hope she has access to the veggies and fruit that
>> >>> those
>> >>> who were forced into the rationing had access to, otherwise she is
>> >>> going
>> >>> to get very sick from malnutrition.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Diet via wartime rationing/deprivation. What a strange concept.
>> >
>> > Not at all, the UK wartime weekly food rations per person, had been
>> > carefully designed to provide a balanced diet with adequate nutrition.
>> > As a result ofeating that way, by the end of the war the civilian
>> > population were healthier than they had been before it. Obesity was
>> > virtually unknown.
>> >
>> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peop...les/nonflash/a
>> > 1057240.shtml
>> >
>> > Janet UK
>> >
>>
>> Except... this person IS apparently obese. Why else would she want to
>> lose 100 pounds?! >
>> The entire "diet" idea is just as ridiculous as ordering frozen food
>> from Nutrisystem and using those fill-you-up diet "shakes".
>
> See the link I posted earlier; she ate according to UK wartime food
> rations .. which IS "eating in moderation".. and lost 80 lbs in a year.
> Good for her; there's nothing ridiculous about the commitment OR
> achievement and the huge improvement she feels in her health and
> fitness.
>
> Unlike shakes and readymade diet meals , shopping cooking and eating
> that balanced varied moderate diet re-educates the palate, shopping and
> food prep habits, so she's far more likely to be able to continue
> those habits and keep losing more.
>
> Janet UK

That makes no sense. It would no more re-educate the palate than drinking
shakes or bars or eating prepared food would. You either like that stuff or
you don't.

The shakes appeal to some people but they would never appeal to me because I
just don't like shakes!

I did try the bars. I can't remember what one kind was called. But you
were supposed to "enjoy" them for breakfast and lunch then have a sensible
dinner. I toughed this out for 10 days then snapped. My dinner was always
a salad with beans and cheese in it. All sorts of veggies. Never any
dressing but lemon juice. I hated the bars because they were those light,
crispy sort of Styrofoamy/waffley things and I hate that texture. Plus they
were too sweet. And at the end of the 10 days? I had gained 10 pounds.
The pounds dropped right off once I went back to eating real food again.

A few years later I tried the Slim Fast meal replacement bars. The type I
was eating are no longer being made. I did not use them as a meal
replacement. I devised the diet on my own. It was 1,000 calories per day.
I was exercising like a fiend and was always exhausted and hungry. I kept a
bar in my smock pocket at work or in my purse and broke off tiny bites
throughout the day to try to stave off the hunger. I probably ate about 75%
of a bar over the course of the day. I ate them more often when I was at
work because I had no other options when I was hungry. I didn't like them
so well but they also were not objectionable to me as the other bars had
been.

Although I did manage to lose the weight, it just wasn't doable in the long
haul. Because in order to keep the weight off, I had to keep eating and
exercising like that. And I got tired of feeling like crap all the time.
IMO it doesn't do any good to look good if you don't feel good!

However... At the same time, two of my friends also went on diets. One did
Nutrasystem and the other did Jenny Craig. Both of them do cook so being
unable to cook or not wanting to cook was not an issue for them. One does
hate vegetables though and is normally a big meat eater. Neither one really
liked the diet food and got burned out on it by the time they had lost the
weight.

They both quit the diets and gained the weight back rapidly. I kept my
weight off for about 2 years. I did like the food I was eating. There just
was never enough of it to make me feel satisfied and I hated the constant
hunger.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/7/2014 9:48 PM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 7/7/2014 8:26 PM, Janet wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/7/2014 7:49 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/7/2014 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
>>>>>>> rations-diet
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
>>>>>>> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in
>>>>>>> Canada,
>>>>>>> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime
>>>>>>> rations
>>>>>>> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
>>>>>>> during World War II. "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tara
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting. I hope she has access to the veggies and fruit that
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> who were forced into the rationing had access to, otherwise she is
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> to get very sick from malnutrition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Diet via wartime rationing/deprivation. What a strange concept.
>>>>
>>>> Not at all, the UK wartime weekly food rations per person, had
>>>> been
>>>> carefully designed to provide a balanced diet with adequate nutrition.
>>>> As a result ofeating that way, by the end of the war the civilian
>>>> population were healthier than they had been before it. Obesity was
>>>> virtually unknown.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peop...les/nonflash/a
>>>> 1057240.shtml
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>
>>> Except... this person IS apparently obese. Why else would she want to
>>> lose 100 pounds?! >
>>> The entire "diet" idea is just as ridiculous as ordering frozen food
>>> from Nutrisystem and using those fill-you-up diet "shakes".
>>
>> See the link I posted earlier; she ate according to UK wartime food
>> rations .. which IS "eating in moderation".. and lost 80 lbs in a year.
>
> She must have been eating a lot of junk to get that overweight in the
> first place. People love to slam Americans about obesity but no one
> thinks twice and realizes there are obese people in other countries.
>
>> Unlike shakes and readymade diet meals , shopping cooking and eating
>> that balanced varied moderate diet
>
> As if I haven't been saying that all along. What was she doing, eating a
> bunch of prepared foodstuffs? IMHO, cook and eat fresh food. Eat a
> varied diet and eat in moderation and you can pretty much eat what you
> like and not become obese.
>
> ? re-educates the palate, shopping and
>> food prep habits, so she's far more likely to be able to continue
>> those habits and keep losing more.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
> Too bad she wasn't taught that before she gained 80-something pounds she
> then had to work to lose.
>
Food is not always the only cause of obesity. I am thinking of a person I
know who does cook but also likes to go out to eat. And she likes to eat
stuff like big steaks, lobster, mainly protein type foods. But she also
likes to drink. Alcohol can add a lot of calories into the diet. I suppose
that a beer or two per week or even a single glass of wine for dinner
wouldn't add too many calories. But she didn't stop at that. Sometimes if
it was wine, it was the whole bottle of wine. Or it was some sort of big,
calorie laden cocktail.

The day that I discovered the calorie content of various liquors was the day
that I pretty much quit drinking. Since then I have used wine in some
cooking and I think that I had a small amount of champagne on a couple of
occasions. I don't need to drink my calories.

> wrote in message
...
> Janet wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>>
>> says...
>>
>> >
>>
>> > On 7/7/2014 7:49 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> > > On 7/7/2014 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > >> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
>>
>> > >> rations-diet
>>
>> > >>
>>
>> > >> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>>
>> > >>
>>
>> > >> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>>
>> > >>
>>
>> > >> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
>>
>> > >> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in
>> > >> Canada,
>>
>> > >> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime
>> > >> rations
>>
>> > >> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
>>
>> > >> during World War II. "
>>
>> > >>
>>
>> > >> Tara
>>
>> > >>
>>
>> > > Interesting. I hope she has access to the veggies and fruit that
>> > > those
>>
>> > > who were forced into the rationing had access to, otherwise she is
>> > > going
>>
>> > > to get very sick from malnutrition.
>>
>> > >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Diet via wartime rationing/deprivation. What a strange concept.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not at all, the UK wartime weekly food rations per person, had been
>>
>> carefully designed to provide a balanced diet with adequate nutrition.
>>
>> As a result ofeating that way, by the end of the war the civilian
>>
>> population were healthier than they had been before it. Obesity was
>>
>> virtually unknown.
>
> Rates of heart disease, hypertension, and even tooth decay were also way
> down...white bread was replaced by whole - meal "national loaf". An
> interesting site:
>
> http://justhungry.com/the-supersizer...k-food-history

I just don't really get the white bread thing. Yes, I know the history of
it and why people preferred to eat it. But in my time, parents thought they
were doing a good thing to feed their kids Wonder bread. And many parents
never let their kids have anything else.

What I really thought was funny was the day that my parents were babysitting
my nephew. They had bought him a loaf of Wonder bread. My mom made toast
with it. She said he looked at it oddly and asked what it was as if he had
never seen such a thing before. Then she told him that it was good and to
try it. He did try a tiny taste and said that he was sorry but he just
didn't like it.

Then she reminded him that he ate toast all the time at his other
grandparent's house. Which he did. And he was young enough not to be able
to tell her what it was that they toasted although he tried to describe it.
So she walked up to the store with him and had him show her the bread. I
can't remember the brand of it but it turned out to be some sort of really
dense, wheat berry bread.

Although I don't personally care for the texture of wheat berries, I do
prefer real, whole grain bread for toast. And even when I do eat white
bread, I prefer it to be something other than Wonder bread. That was the
bread I knew from my childhood, although most of the time we didn't have
that brand. We shopped at the cheap cheap store where you had to mark your
own prices with a grease pencil and we bought the generic loaves when on
sale. I doubt that my bread had vitamins in it like Wonder bread does. But
the taste and texture was the same. Which is why as a kid, I wasn't very
thrilled with bread.

Actually when it comes to food preferences, mine generally run to cheap but
not cheap as in junk bread. But cheap like raw veggies in season, beans,
and pan popped popcorn. Or soup. I can easily live on these things and
they are good for me.

I don't get the theory of... I am rich, or... I want to pretend to be
rich, so I will eat ____. But a lot of people do think that way. Yes, I do
buy really good steaks once in a while for my husband because he prefers
them. I suspect that he prefers them for the very reason that I don't get
but... Anyway. Most of the time, we eat cheap and healthy here.

"Tara" > wrote in message
...
> Cookery in War Time - a historical cookbook linked from the blog. I am
> fascinated with historical cookbooks.
>
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byqn...N00/edit?pli=1
>
> Tara

I love the ones along the lines of food, health, exercise, beauty and
manners. I had one book of this same era that said if you were fat, you
were to slap at the fat with your hands, as hard as you could, several times
a day, enough to make the skin red. That was supposed to make the fat go
away. You were also supposed to rub your skin really hard with a Turkish
towel after a bath.

"barbie gee" > wrote in message
crg.pbz...
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Tara wrote:
>
>> Cookery in War Time - a historical cookbook linked from the blog. I am
>> fascinated with historical cookbooks.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byqn...N00/edit?pli=1
>>
>
> THIS is what's interesting to me, as well.
>
> Not the Large Marge doing a novelty "diet".

Yep. Somebody else's weight loss journey has no bearing on me.

"pltrgyst" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/7/14, 7:23 PM, Tara wrote:
>
>> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
>> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
>> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
>> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
>> during World War II. "
>
> Hope she has a taste for really old mutton...
>
> -- Larry

Heh. I know that my dad didn't! And he had to eat quite a lot of it when
he worked fort the Parks Services.

"Terrence Crimmins" > wrote in message
...
> The best way to lose weight is to become young again, when you would eat
> like a pig and not gain a pound. It's tough to do, though.

I remember those days. My dad used to joke that I had a hollow leg. I was
constantly hungry and no amount of food was ever enough for me. And yet I
was seriously underweight. Then the day came when I quit growing. Well, I
did. My appetite didn't!

I don't get those kids who just don't eat. I have seen far too many of
them. They will eat the tiniest bite like a single grain of rice then act
like their mouth is stuffed. And after that one bite that their parents
pretty much forced them to take, they are off and running to do something
else. They never seem to get hungry and they never want to eat.

> wrote in message
...
> On Monday, July 7, 2014 10:03:17 PM UTC-5, Terrence Crimmins wrote:
>>
>> The best way to lose weight is to become young again, when you would eat
>> like a pig and not gain a pound. It's tough to do, though.
>>
>>
> Being young has absolutely nothing to do with ones size. I see PLENTY of
> young people, all under the age of 20, terribly, terribly obese. Even
> though your comment was meant to be taken with a grain of salt, it's
> simply not true.

It certainly can for some people. I was one of them. I was seriously
underweight then at about age 15 became very ill and had a type of anorexia
after it. I didn't have it because I thought I was overweight. I was just
very frightened of food because every time I had so much as a bite or a sip
of something, it came back up.

I won't tell the whole story again. Have told it here before. But after I
finally got better, I felt very fat because for the first time in my life I
was a normal weight.

After that I did put on a little too much weight but then managed to take it
back off due to lack of food (I was poor) and being very active.

My real weight problems began in my 30's. That was the first time that I
seriously had to diet.

As for these overweight kids, I don't know where they all are. Not many in
this area. Yes, I see a few. But most of the kids I see, seem to be
underweight to very underweight.

On 7/8/2014 1:22 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Tara" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Cookery in War Time - a historical cookbook linked from the blog. I am
>> fascinated with historical cookbooks.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byqn...N00/edit?pli=1
>>
>> Tara
>
> I love the ones along the lines of food, health, exercise, beauty and
> manners. I had one book of this same era that said if you were fat, you
> were to slap at the fat with your hands, as hard as you could, several
> times a day, enough to make the skin red. That was supposed to make the
> fat go away. You were also supposed to rub your skin really hard with a
> Turkish towel after a bath.

Did you fall for that nonsense?!

Jill

On 7/7/2014 11:20 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, July 7, 2014 10:03:17 PM UTC-5, Terrence Crimmins wrote:
>>
>> The best way to lose weight is to become young again, when you would eat like a pig and not gain a pound. It's tough to do, though.
>>
>>
> Being young has absolutely nothing to do with ones size. I see PLENTY of young people, all under the age of 20, terribly, terribly obese. Even though your comment was meant to be taken with a grain of salt, it's simply not true.
>
It's not a simple issue. But I see more overweight young people (teens
and 20-somethings) than I used to. I guess they're eating a lot of
junk. That's why there are all these diet fads and alleged miracle pills.

I still say (and always will say) eat what you like in *moderation*. I
cringe when I see ads for places with endless buffets (Golden Corral or
Old Country Buffet comes to mind). Too many people seem to take the
"all you can eat" thing to heart. They load up several plates for one
person. Then go back for seconds. Sheesh.

Jill

"Tara" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
> rations-diet
>
> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>
> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>
> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
> during World War II. "

I haven't seen this one. I was a Museum Curator and I used to make wartime
recipes with oldies and they loved it) It brought back a lot of memories
and they contributed too)


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/8/2014 1:22 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Tara" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Cookery in War Time - a historical cookbook linked from the blog. I am
>>> fascinated with historical cookbooks.
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byqn...N00/edit?pli=1
>>>
>>> Tara
>>
>> I love the ones along the lines of food, health, exercise, beauty and
>> manners. I had one book of this same era that said if you were fat, you
>> were to slap at the fat with your hands, as hard as you could, several
>> times a day, enough to make the skin red. That was supposed to make the
>> fat go away. You were also supposed to rub your skin really hard with a
>> Turkish towel after a bath.
>
> Did you fall for that nonsense?!

No but I think it is funny to read about what they used to think.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/7/2014 11:20 PM, wrote:
>> On Monday, July 7, 2014 10:03:17 PM UTC-5, Terrence Crimmins wrote:
>>>
>>> The best way to lose weight is to become young again, when you would eat
>>> like a pig and not gain a pound. It's tough to do, though.
>>>
>>>
>> Being young has absolutely nothing to do with ones size. I see PLENTY of
>> young people, all under the age of 20, terribly, terribly obese. Even
>> though your comment was meant to be taken with a grain of salt, it's
>> simply not true.
>>
> It's not a simple issue. But I see more overweight young people (teens
> and 20-somethings) than I used to. I guess they're eating a lot of junk.
> That's why there are all these diet fads and alleged miracle pills.
>
> I still say (and always will say) eat what you like in *moderation*. I
> cringe when I see ads for places with endless buffets (Golden Corral or
> Old Country Buffet comes to mind). Too many people seem to take the "all
> you can eat" thing to heart. They load up several plates for one person.
> Then go back for seconds. Sheesh.

I don't get that at all. This is one reason why it puts me off to dine
there. People are just pigs in there! We always get one salad plate and
one dinner plate. The plates are small. Once in a while we will go back
for something. It's usually because we just took a small taste of something
to see if we like it. We then take a little more. Never a full plate when
we go back and never dessert.

On 7/7/2014 8:08 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>
> The best way to lose weight, IMHO, is to push back from the table.
> Eat what you want, but in moderation. Let the food settle; you won't
> feel hungry. Really. It works.

That's how it works for you and a great many other people, but
unfortunately it isn't quite that simple for others. Some of us have
brains that for some reason send the "I'm hungry" signal far more
frequently and in a much louder fashion. It is extremely hard not to
eat when your body is constantly nagging for food. Hell, it's hard to
focus on anything else when you are feeling so hungry that all you can
think of is food. The longer it goes on, the more difficult it is to
resist the urge to give in and eat (more), and that's why over 90% of
diets fail. This is well known to researchers in obesity and they have
been trying to find what causes this signal and what might be done to
normalize it.

For some reason this is the first time in my life that I have not been
plagued with constant hunger nags. I don't know why it is different
now - maybe hormonal changes with aging, or maybe certain foods I've
cut way back on (bread, potatoes, pasta) had been triggering that
urge. At any rate, for the first time in my life I know what normal
hunger pangs are, instead of being plagued with my body incessantly
nagging me to eat. I am finally like you - able to eat, let it settle,
not think about food or feel hungry for hours afterward. As a result,
the pounds are indeed coming off with very little trouble or trauma.
If I'd been like this for most of my life, it would have been much
easier to manage my weight.

On 7/8/2014 4:10 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/7/2014 11:20 PM, wrote:
>> On Monday, July 7, 2014 10:03:17 PM UTC-5, Terrence Crimmins wrote:
>>>
>>> The best way to lose weight is to become young again, when you
>>> would eat like a pig and not gain a pound. It's tough to do, though.
>>>
>>>
>> Being young has absolutely nothing to do with ones size. I see
>> PLENTY of young people, all under the age of 20, terribly, terribly
>> obese. Even though your comment was meant to be taken with a grain
>> of salt, it's simply not true.
>>
> It's not a simple issue. But I see more overweight young people
> (teens and 20-somethings) than I used to. I guess they're eating a
> lot of junk. That's why there are all these diet fads and alleged
> miracle pills.

Well, what would anyone expect from a feedlot diet? We feed cattle and
pigs lots of corn to fatten them up. We've moved to a corn-based diet
for ourselves, too.

Plus: plastics. Chemicals found in plastics mimic human hormones.
They've found links between chemical ingestion and obesity. Worse of
all, the diet advice we've been given over the past half-century or so
has been hideously, dangerously, wrong. We decided red meat was bad
and encouraged people to eat more grains - but protein is the most
satiating food, and grains are fattening agents. We replaced animal
fats with hydrogenated fats, which are far unhealthier than animal
fats. We marketed 'fat-free' foods whose fat content was replaced by
sugars. But eating fat satisfies one's sense of hunger, where eating
sugar exacerbates it. We switched to low-fat milk, getting rid of the
good fat that makes you feel full, but leaving in all the milk sugar
that's bad for you. We advised people to eat many small meals a day in
order to stave off hunger pangs, but constant eating keeps your liver
busy producing enzymes digesting the food you just ate, not leaving it
any time to produce enzymes to break down stored body fat.

Overeating is part of it, but it's not all of it. If it were, it would
be simple to lose weight and simpler yet to keep it off.

In article >, says...
>
> "Tara" > wrote in message
> ...
> > http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
> > rations-diet
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
> >
> > http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
> >
> > "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
> > Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
> > is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
> > diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
> > during World War II. "
> >
> > Tara
>
> Yes. I have seen that. I have a British cookbook of that era and I have
> made several dishes from it. Not sure how such a diet would help with
> weight loss though

Fat, sugar, meat and dairy were all strictly rationed, a fixed amount
per person per week. Vegetables were not rationed.

Janet

On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 3:10:03 AM UTC-7, wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 20:03:13 -0400, Dave Smith
>
> > wrote:
>

> >My father spent a few years in the UK during the war. Judging by the
> >photos of him from the war years he was pretty slim. He lost a lot of
> >weight during the week or so that he was in Denmark after being shot
> >down and had to walk across Sjaelland from Korsor to Copenhagen. He
> >eventually made contact with Resistance and was smuggled over to Sweden
> >where he spent a couple weeks. He had a lot more and much better food
> >there that he had been getting in England. Their special meal before
> >heading out on bombing operations was eggs and chips.

My first trip overseas was to Ireland. The dollar was being pounded, and
we were trying to save money. One restaurant we ate at featured
egg and chips, notably egg peas and chips.

I ordered a hamburger, peas, and chips, but to my surprise the hamburger
was a bunless patty.

>
> I think it made them very inventive - true one had ration books but
> that only meant you could buy something, if you could find it to buy!
> I remember a birthday cake made with stale bread because there was no
> flour available.

Maybe food shortages/rationing was the genesis of the ritz cracker mock
apple pie.


> Somehow she got hold of a piglet and raised it, I loved it and named
> it Snow White. When my father was home on leave he shot it in the
> head and they butchered it. I think that's most of the reason I am
> not fond of pork,bacon or ham, I didn't like Snow Whites fate
>

Raising a pig was how many of our ancestors made it through the winter,
especially with energy dense foods like salami and bacon. You didn't need
much to provide a balanced diet with fermented foods like sauerkraut or
sour turnips, perhaps dried apples, and bread.

When the Irish came to America a century and a half ago, they surprised
their tenement landlords by trying to raise a pig in their kitchen, mostly
on scraps, as they had done in the old country.

>
> I can't see a war time diet for the purpose of losing weight though,
> way too starchy. The difference was activity. Starch in but plenty
> of calories used up by walking (no gas, so cars were permanently in
> the garage) buses few and far between and kids who were expected to go
> out and play with neighbourhood kids.

The current consensus is not that we eat too much but that we move too
little.

On 7/7/2014 10:03 PM, Terrence Crimmins wrote:
> The best way to lose weight is to become young again, when you would
> eat like a pig and not gain a pound. It's tough to do, though.
>

Is willing to lie about my birthday, if that helps.

Becca

In article >,
says...
>
> On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 17:39:34 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> >In article >, says...
> >>
> >> "Tara" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
> >> > rations-diet
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
> >> >
> >> > http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
> >> >
> >> > "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
> >> > Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
> >> > is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
> >> > diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
> >> > during World War II. "
> >> >
> >> > Tara
> >>
> >> Yes. I have seen that. I have a British cookbook of that era and I have
> >> made several dishes from it. Not sure how such a diet would help with
> >> weight loss though
> >
> > Fat, sugar, meat and dairy were all strictly rationed, a fixed amount
> >per person per week. Vegetables were not rationed.
> >
> > Janet
>
> Of course that was if it was available. I remember being bored to
> tears queuing with my mother or aunts for a chance for a treat.

My mother left the ration book in the pram and the pram outside the
shop with me in it, while she queued inside.

When she came to retrieve the ration book I had eaten it....

Janet UK

In article >,
says...
>
One thing I have is a fitbit https://www.fitbit.com/ and
> I love it with a passion.

WooHOOO I want one of those!

Janet UK

On 08/07/2014 11:00 AM, wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 17:39:34 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "Tara" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
>>>> rations-diet
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>>>>
>>>> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>>>>
>>>> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
>>>> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
>>>> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
>>>> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
>>>> during World War II. "
>>>>
>>>> Tara
>>>
>>> Yes. I have seen that. I have a British cookbook of that era and I have
>>> made several dishes from it. Not sure how such a diet would help with
>>> weight loss though
>>
>> Fat, sugar, meat and dairy were all strictly rationed, a fixed amount
>> per person per week. Vegetables were not rationed.
>>
>> Janet
>
> Of course that was if it was available. I remember being bored to
> tears queuing with my mother or aunts for a chance for a treat.
>
For running errands, the elderly widow next door would give me a sweet
(candy) coupon.
I still have my ration book.
Graham

On 08/07/2014 10:39 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Tara" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> http://www.theawl.com/2011/11/mock-g...es-of-the-war-
>>> rations-diet
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/l5qn9ux
>>>
>>> http://1940sexperiment.wordpress.com/
>>>
>>> "There is a website, called The 1940s Experiment, whose proprietor,
>>> Carolyn Ekins, who was born and raised in the UK but now lives in Canada,
>>> is attempting to lose a hundred pounds by following a wartime rations
>>> diet, specifically made up of the foods eaten by the British public
>>> during World War II. "
>>>
>>> Tara
>>
>> Yes. I have seen that. I have a British cookbook of that era and I have
>> made several dishes from it. Not sure how such a diet would help with
>> weight loss though
>
> Fat, sugar, meat and dairy were all strictly rationed, a fixed amount
> per person per week. Vegetables were not rationed.
>
> Janet
>
AIUI, the UK population was much healthier for it. Not hard to understand.
Graham

On 7/8/2014 3:01 PM, graham wrote:

> I still have my ration book.
>
So do I.