"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 19:49:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 18:05:57 -0400, jmcquown >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 7/9/2014 5:30 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 14:22:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> There is no feasible way to put one in. We have no ducting. We
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> place to put a unit outside. We can't vent out a window nor can we
>> >> >> put in a
>> >> >> window unit or put one through a wall.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yep. The only house in the world that is apparently impossible to
>> >> > install airconditioning in - and guess who owns it?
>> >> >
>> >> That's why it is so funny.
>> >>
>> >> I have unusual windows. They're verticle and crank open. Not windows
>> >> with a regular sash you can just slide up to open the window. The
>> >> screens can't easily be removed, from the inside, either. They are
>> >> blocked by the security sensors. BUT... they can be removed from the
>> >> outside (with proper tools) if necessary. When my central air went
>> >> out
>> >> a few years ago I was able to use a portable AC unit similar to this
>> >> one:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.globalindustrial.com/prod...A&gclsrc=aw.ds
>> >>
>> >> or tiny URL:
>> >>
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/nq3rozp
>> >>
>> >> If I can do it it, anyone can. :-D
>> >>
>> >
>> > That's what DD used in her old house, but they are $200-300 and Julie
>> > doesn't want to pay that much.
>>
>> That's not the issue. $200-300 is nothing! But we just can't feasibly
>> install a window unit and regardless of what Sheldon says, it is common
>> knowledge here that putting them in a Ranch like we have will easily get
>> you
>> robbed.
>
> That isn't a window unit.

Perhaps you could find out what it really is then. You've described it as
portable and those do have to be vented outside.

On 7/9/2014 5:47 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:42:07 -0500, Ema Nymton >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> After cooking eggs for breakfast every morning, for decades, it gets
>> old.
>
> It does. But the, that is true of anything else I can think of as
> well. As much as I love eggs, I do need a break from them every now
> and then.
>
> My rooster died this morning, and I gave away my other Barnevelder
> rooster yesterday. Typical... I'll have to find the ladies another
> man.

Sorry about the loss of your rooster, I am sure is was awfully sad to
find him that way.

My sister had chickens, but she did not have a rooster, my mother kept
telling her that the chickens would lay more eggs if there was a rooster
around. I have no idea if that is true, I assumed it was a myth.

Becca

"Jeßus" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 14:22:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >There is no feasible way to put one in. We have no ducting. We have no
> >place to put a unit outside. We can't vent out a window nor can we put in a
> >window unit or put one through a wall.

OK Julie. Even *I* have reached my limit with you here. (And back off,
Ophy...this needs to be said. Don't you dare defend her on this one).

A few weeks ago you were complaining about the heat. Now you are
complaining about it again. You can't even sleep at night as it's so
hot. The fans only blow hot air. You are going shopping often just to
walk around in an air-conditioned store.

Quit making excuses. So what if past years haven't been so hot. It's
hot this summer and it hot now. Your temps will be hot for another 10
days too.
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenda...le+WA+USWA0395

You can just remain miserable for the next 10 days and probably for
the month of August too or you can fix this problem today and be
happy. If the heat and humidity bothers you so much, just go buy a
small window unit and enjoy the rest of your summer. No excuse for
not solving your problem in a fairly inexpensive way. Put it in one
room and at least enjoy one cool room. To cool down the rest of your
house to a comfortable level, put a fan in the room doorway blowing
air into the rest of the house. You could at least have one
comfortable room.


>
> Yep. The only house in the world that is apparently impossible to
> install airconditioning in - and guess who owns it?

If she was my daughter complaining in this way, I would break my foot
off in her ass. This complaint and all the reasons why she can't do
this is just not sane.

Enjoy your summer hot weather, Julie.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 14:22:21 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >There is no feasible way to put one in. We have no ducting. We have no
>> >place to put a unit outside. We can't vent out a window nor can we put
>> >in a
>> >window unit or put one through a wall.
>
> OK Julie. Even *I* have reached my limit with you here. (And back off,
> Ophy...this needs to be said. Don't you dare defend her on this one).

Personally, I am sick to death of the friggin air conditioner conversation
that now seems to have taken over every thread, including caramelizing
onions, Dinner 7/8/2014, and Fireworks. How many times does it have to be
said. Get some kind of GD air conditioner, or shut up about the heatwave, an
80 degree heat wave at that.

Cheri

On 7/9/2014 6:54 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 19:20:05 -0300, wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:59:11 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/9/2014 5:22 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> There is no feasible way to put one in. We have no ducting. We have no
>>>> place to put a unit outside. We can't vent out a window nor can we put
>>>> in a window unit or put one through a wall.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Call a professional and I bet they can offer a few ways to do it. Ducts
>>> can be added, holes made in walls, evap units in attics or ceilings,
>>> just for starters.
>>>
>>> I've never seen the AC units in the houses at Colonial Williamsburg, but
>>> they snuck them in for climate control and preservation. Completely
>>> hidden from view as you tour the houses.
>>
>> There are free standing units, look rather like dehumidifiers, we even
>> have them here. Friend has one because her son is disabled and I
>> would have to say it definitely cools the room down.
>
> Those dehumidifiers work well in dry climates, but when it's humid
> such as the tropics), they are next to useless, IME.
>
Lucretia said the free standing units *look* like dehumdifiers. They
are actually free standing air conditioners.

The unit loaned to me when my central air went out cooled off the
bedroom very nicely. That's all I needed. I can deal with sitting
around in the heat with fans running. I can cook outside if I need to;
it's not always cooler outside but there is a chance for a breeze.

I *cannot* sleep when it is hot. The free standing AC made it possible
to sleep comfortably until the central air was fixed.

Jill

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:31:12 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> Lucretia said the free standing units *look* like dehumdifiers. They
> are actually free standing air conditioners.
>
> The unit loaned to me when my central air went out cooled off the
> bedroom very nicely. That's all I needed. I can deal with sitting
> around in the heat with fans running. I can cook outside if I need to;
> it's not always cooler outside but there is a chance for a breeze.
>
> I *cannot* sleep when it is hot. The free standing AC made it possible
> to sleep comfortably until the central air was fixed.

You neglected to say if it was vented to the outside or not. I don't
remember my DD's being vented outside.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 7/10/2014 2:08 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:31:12 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Lucretia said the free standing units *look* like dehumdifiers. They
>> are actually free standing air conditioners.
>>
>> The unit loaned to me when my central air went out cooled off the
>> bedroom very nicely. That's all I needed. I can deal with sitting
>> around in the heat with fans running. I can cook outside if I need to;
>> it's not always cooler outside but there is a chance for a breeze.
>>
>> I *cannot* sleep when it is hot. The free standing AC made it possible
>> to sleep comfortably until the central air was fixed.
>
> You neglected to say if it was vented to the outside or not. I don't
> remember my DD's being vented outside.
>
It was a loaner and I only used it for two nights while waiting for the
HVAC part to be delivered. It was supposed to be vented to the outside.
I didn't have the tools to remove the bedroom window screen. The
company that did the repairs and loaned me the unit weren't about to
test their liability insurance by removing and possibly destroying the
screen.

So, they told me to vent it into the living room and prop the bedroom
door closed to keep the cold air in the room. It was purely a temporary
solution but it worked just fine. All it was doing was blowing out hot
air into the unnoccupied rest of the house, and I had the windows in the
other rooms open anyway.

It was great getting a couple of nice cool nights of sleep while waiting
for the part to arrive. Before they brought the portable unit over, it
was miserably hot. I can deal with it in the daytime if I have to. But
not when I'm trying to sleep.

Jill

On 7/10/2014 1:29 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> Personally, I am sick to death of the friggin air conditioner
> conversation that now seems to have taken over every thread, including
> caramelizing onions, Dinner 7/8/2014, and Fireworks. How many times does
> it have to be said. Get some kind of GD air conditioner, or shut up
> about the heatwave, an 80 degree heat wave at that.
>
> Cheri

I would welcome 80 degrees. That would be a cold front. It's 91° right
now, a little cooler than predicted. Thunderstorms are expected out of
the southwest around 6PM. And I have air conditioning.

I have no idea what I'll be cooking for dinner.

Jill

On 7/9/2014 10:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>


>>
> There is no way I would do that since most years, AC wouldn't be used at
> all.
snip
Just wouldn't make sense
> to go to a whole lot of expense and effort to put in AC since most years
> it would never get used.

OK, that is a sensible economic argument if you don't need it most
years. If you ever change your mind, it can be done.
>
> We've been noticing how many vehicles have no AC. A lot of them.
> That's one thing I would never do again. My first car didn't have it.
> Some people think those that have it are nuts.

I think those that don't have it are nuts. The AC cools you, of course,
but it does more. When the windows get fogged, the AC compressor will
run when the defroster is on to help clear the windshield faster. It is
as much a safety item as it is a comfort item.

I've not owned a convertible for about 35 years and maybe 10 days a
years I'd like to have one. The rest of the time, windows are up to
minimize noise and the climate control is set at 68 in the winter 72 in
the summer.

AC is standard on most cars these days,e ven lower end compacts.

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:50:46 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> I have no idea what I'll be cooking for dinner.

I've seen so many ideas for dinner it's not even funny. What appealed
to me the most were
Taco Salad
http://chinesegrandma.com/2014/07/chopped-taco-salad/
and Chorizo, Chimichurri and Salsa Sandwiches
http://www.vintagekitchennotes.com/2...and-salsa.html
not that it's easy to find Brazilian chorizo.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:35:45 PM UTC-4, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:50:46 -0400, jmcquown >
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I have no idea what I'll be cooking for dinner.
>
>
>
> I've seen so many ideas for dinner it's not even funny. What appealed
>
> to me the most were
>
> Taco Salad
>
> http://chinesegrandma.com/2014/07/chopped-taco-salad/
>
> and Chorizo, Chimichurri and Salsa Sandwiches
>
> http://www.vintagekitchennotes.com/2...and-salsa.html
>
> not that it's easy to find Brazilian chorizo.
>
>
>
> --
>
> All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

Looking at the recipes, I think if you make both you'll be all set. But what's everybody else in your family going to eat?

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:35:45 -0700, sf > wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:50:46 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> > I have no idea what I'll be cooking for dinner.
>
> I've seen so many ideas for dinner it's not even funny. What appealed
> to me the most were
> Taco Salad
> http://chinesegrandma.com/2014/07/chopped-taco-salad/
> and Chorizo, Chimichurri and Salsa Sandwiches
> http://www.vintagekitchennotes.com/2...and-salsa.html
> not that it's easy to find Brazilian chorizo.

Googling around, it sounds like it might be linguiça.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:58:00 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>AC is standard on most cars these days,e ven lower end compacts.

You can always convert a car air-con into an air compressor... but
then most of you would have no use for that, I suppose.