Apparently, fat roosters aren't very good at making chicks. The
world's largest chicken breeder has discovered that a key breed of
rooster has a genetic issue that is reducing its fertility, and that's
raising prices for poultry even as beef and pork prices hit record
highs. The breed, Aviagen Group's standard Ross male, is sire through
its offspring to as much as 25 percent of the nation's chickens raised
for slaughter, said Aviagen spokeswoman Marla Robinson. Sanderson
Farms, the third-largest U.S. poultry producer and one of Aviagen's
largest customers, said it and Aviagen systematically ruled out other
possible causes for a decline in fertility before determining a
genetic issue was at the root of the problem. The issue is hitting an
industry that is already suffering from a short supply of breeder
birds. A team of scientists from Aviagen studied the issue and found
that the breed's genetics made it sensitive to being overfed, and when
the bird got big, he didn't breed as much.

On 7/9/2014 4:24 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> Apparently, fat roosters aren't very good at making chicks.
(snippage)
> A team of scientists from Aviagen studied the issue and found
> that the breed's genetics made it sensitive to being overfed, and when
> the bird got big, he didn't breed as much.
>
In other words, when the rooster gets fat he's too lazy to have sex.

Jill <ducking and running>

On 7/9/2014 4:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/9/2014 4:24 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>> Apparently, fat roosters aren't very good at making chicks.
> (snippage)
>> A team of scientists from Aviagen studied the issue and found
>> that the breed's genetics made it sensitive to being overfed, and when
>> the bird got big, he didn't breed as much.
>>
> In other words, when the rooster gets fat he's too lazy to have sex.
>
> Jill <ducking and running>

Fat guy don't get laid as often as skinny guys IRL.

On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 14:24:39 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

>Apparently, fat roosters aren't very good at making chicks. The
>world's largest chicken breeder has discovered that a key breed of
>rooster has a genetic issue that is reducing its fertility, and that's
>raising prices for poultry even as beef and pork prices hit record
>highs. The breed, Aviagen Group's standard Ross male, is sire through
>its offspring to as much as 25 percent of the nation's chickens raised
>for slaughter, said Aviagen spokeswoman Marla Robinson. Sanderson
>Farms, the third-largest U.S. poultry producer and one of Aviagen's
>largest customers, said it and Aviagen systematically ruled out other
>possible causes for a decline in fertility before determining a
>genetic issue was at the root of the problem. The issue is hitting an
>industry that is already suffering from a short supply of breeder
>birds. A team of scientists from Aviagen studied the issue and found
>that the breed's genetics made it sensitive to being overfed, and when
>the bird got big, he didn't breed as much.

Factory farming. No sympathy from me.

On 2014-07-09, Jeßus > wrote:

> Factory farming. No sympathy from me.

Bingo!

They've bred the birds to have such a huge chest (breast meat), they
can only walk a few steps and then gotta plop down to rest. Not what
I'd call sexual athletes or even healthy meat.

I'm not trying to be a snob or some kinda animal rights freak,
but I'll pay the exorbitant prices for non "factory-farming" chicken.
I think good food should be encouraged. I think it tastes better.

Food will never get better if we keep buying the crap food.

nb

On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:07:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 7/9/2014 4:32 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 7/9/2014 4:24 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> >> Apparently, fat roosters aren't very good at making chicks.
> > (snippage)
> >> A team of scientists from Aviagen studied the issue and found
> >> that the breed's genetics made it sensitive to being overfed, and when
> >> the bird got big, he didn't breed as much.
> >>
> > In other words, when the rooster gets fat he's too lazy to have sex.
> >
> > Jill <ducking and running>
>
> Fat guy don't get laid as often as skinny guys IRL.

I think there's a physical problem too. Think about it for a moment.

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On 10 Jul 2014 00:39:32 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> Food will never get better if we keep buying the crap food.

That's for sure.

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All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 7/9/2014 4:24 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:

> Apparently, fat roosters aren't very good at making chicks. The
> world's largest chicken breeder has discovered that a key breed of
> rooster has a genetic issue that is reducing its fertility, and that's
> raising prices for poultry even as beef and pork prices hit record
> highs. The breed, Aviagen Group's standard Ross male, is sire through
> its offspring to as much as 25 percent of the nation's chickens raised
> for slaughter, said Aviagen spokeswoman Marla Robinson. Sanderson
> Farms, the third-largest U.S. poultry producer and one of Aviagen's
> largest customers, said it and Aviagen systematically ruled out other
> possible causes for a decline in fertility before determining a
> genetic issue was at the root of the problem. The issue is hitting an
> industry that is already suffering from a short supply of breeder
> birds. A team of scientists from Aviagen studied the issue and found
> that the breed's genetics made it sensitive to being overfed, and when
> the bird got big, he didn't breed as much.
>
All the more reason to portion your meat to a reasonable size. I've been
finding lately that if I grill my protein, and eat it by itself in the
kitchen without a fancy presentation, I eat less. I plate my sides
though. I've been grilling a lot more lately now that I have a decent
grill that cooks my food exactly how I like it.

I have to wonder what other traits he is passing on to his limited
offspring, such as fattier chicks? Chicken does seem to be fattier with
tougher gristle.


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Cheryl

Sounds like they put all their eggs in one basket. I buy Amish chickens. Not as big, but they're real chickens.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:07:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>> Fat guy don't get laid as often as skinny guys IRL.
>
> I think there's a physical problem too. Think about it for a moment.

I'd rather not.

Cheri

Artificial insemination should work. Works on other barnyard animals. Now how to pry the goods out of a fat rooster and into a likely hen...I aint quite sure. I bet the smart folks can devise a plan.

Maybe it's due to competition from drug companies. I just had injections
into the center of both my knees of a compound extracted from the
coxcombs of roosters (Synvisc/hyaluronan)...

-- Larry

On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 10:34:45 PM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:07:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>
>
> >> Fat guy don't get laid as often as skinny guys IRL.
>
> > I think there's a physical problem too. Think about it for a moment.
>
> I'd rather not.
>

Remember Sue Johanson, the elderly sexpert?

A viewer once asked her about coping with his girlfriend's panniculus
-- a fancy term for drooping paunch -- which completely covered her
genitalia. I will stop right here.

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:54:11 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 10:34:45 PM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:07:07 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >> Fat guy don't get laid as often as skinny guys IRL.
> >
> > > I think there's a physical problem too. Think about it for a moment.
> >
> > I'd rather not.
> >
>
> Remember Sue Johanson, the elderly sexpert?
>
> A viewer once asked her about coping with his girlfriend's panniculus
> -- a fancy term for drooping paunch -- which completely covered her
> genitalia. I will stop right here.

No, but same idea - male version.

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All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:34:19 -0400, pltrgyst > wrote:

> Maybe it's due to competition from drug companies. I just had injections
> into the center of both my knees of a compound extracted from the
> coxcombs of roosters (Synvisc/hyaluronan)...
>
Don't mess around, it's an expensive process but stem cells
(Mesenchymal Stem Cells) do work to repair knees. From what I
understand, they are taken from your own body marrow.

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All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 7/9/2014 10:35 PM, Gorio wrote:

> I buy Amish
> chickens. Not as big, but they're real chickens.
>

I never asked the religious background of the chickens I buy. Thanks
for the tip, I'm going to ask next time. Are they near the Jewish kosher
ones?

Hmm, chickens with beards.

On 7/10/2014 2:44 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/9/2014 10:35 PM, Gorio wrote:
>
>> I buy Amish
>> chickens. Not as big, but they're real chickens.
>>
>
> I never asked the religious background of the chickens I buy. Thanks
> for the tip, I'm going to ask next time. Are they near the Jewish kosher
> ones?
>
> Hmm, chickens with beards.
>
My favorite kebab place is Halal (Muslim regulations) but, tho similar,
it seems to differ from Kosher in that shrimps are in.

I actually met the professor at the U of NC who developed the
multipurpose chicken some years ago. As it grows, it first becomes
suitable for Cornish game hens, then grows into a small roaster, then
further into an egg layer. My Japanese assistant was much amused by the
thought of a "Chicken Professor" and she talked about him for months
afterwards. Actually, Chisuko was, and probably still is, a bit
iconoclastic. Here is is her view of the Cherry Blossom festival; an
unconscious haiku.
The *men* sit under the cherry trees
And get very drunk.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 10 Jul 2014 00:39:32 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2014-07-09, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> Factory farming. No sympathy from me.
>
>Bingo!
>
>They've bred the birds to have such a huge chest (breast meat), they
>can only walk a few steps and then gotta plop down to rest. Not what
>I'd call sexual athletes or even healthy meat.

No, it's certainly not healthy (unless you're dying from
malnutrition). Have you seen the burns on the skin of factory chicken
raised in the U.S? Its from the birds having to stand and lay in
faeces... which is then lovingly bleached for presentation.

mmm... yum:
http://www.aspca.org/sites/default/f...?itok=gNjIiWFs

>I'm not trying to be a snob or some kinda animal rights freak,

Of course not, it's a shame you feel you have to defend yourself like
that.

>but I'll pay the exorbitant prices for non "factory-farming" chicken.
>I think good food should be encouraged. I think it tastes better.

It is, and if you can't afford to buy quality meat - buy something
else.

>Food will never get better if we keep buying the crap food.

If everyone voted with their wallets and purses... they'd be history.

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 03:35:55 +0100, Gorio
> wrote:

>
>'Jeßus[_3_ Wrote:
>> ;1948381']On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 14:24:39 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>> wrote:
>> -
>> Apparently, fat roosters aren't very good at making chicks. The
>> world's largest chicken breeder has discovered that a key breed of
>> rooster has a genetic issue that is reducing its fertility, and that's
>> raising prices for poultry even as beef and pork prices hit record
>> highs. The breed, Aviagen Group's standard Ross male, is sire through
>> its offspring to as much as 25 percent of the nation's chickens raised
>> for slaughter, said Aviagen spokeswoman Marla Robinson. Sanderson
>> Farms, the third-largest U.S. poultry producer and one of Aviagen's
>> largest customers, said it and Aviagen systematically ruled out other
>> possible causes for a decline in fertility before determining a
>> genetic issue was at the root of the problem. The issue is hitting an
>> industry that is already suffering from a short supply of breeder
>> birds. A team of scientists from Aviagen studied the issue and found
>> that the breed's genetics made it sensitive to being overfed, and when
>> the bird got big, he didn't breed as much.-
>>
>> Factory farming. No sympathy from me.
>
>Sounds like they put all their eggs in one basket.

Boom-tish

>I buy Amish chickens. Not as big, but they're real chickens.

I wish we had Amish here in Aus. We probably do but they are
exceedingly rare here.

Ed Pawlowski > wrote in
:

> On 7/9/2014 10:35 PM, Gorio wrote:
>
>> I buy Amish
>> chickens. Not as big, but they're real chickens.
>>
>
> I never asked the religious background of the chickens I buy. Thanks
> for the tip, I'm going to ask next time. Are they near the Jewish kosher
> ones?
>
> Hmm, chickens with beards.
>

Only the married roosters.


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