On 7/18/2014 5:47 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> When I was a kid I didn't mind the cheeseburger one so much. And believe
>> me when I say that we had a lot of dinners that I flat out would not eat.
>> Like the poached fish and liver. That being said, this is not a
>> product I
>> would ever choose to eat.
>
> That came in a box??
>
LOL I'm sure the poached fish and liver didn't come in a box. She's
still talking about Hamburger Helper. Cheeseburger-Macaroni is one of
the flavours HH makes. It's basically macaroni & cheese, just add
cooked minced beef.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/17/2014 5:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 06:12:41 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> When did Hamburger Helper start coming in cans? The last time I
>>>> noticed it on a shelf, it was a box
>>>> package with some pasta and a seasoning/sauce packet.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>
>>> It would help if you could quote what you're talking about. Where did
>>> he say Hamburger Helper came in cans? He was talking about Kraft Mac
>>> n Cheese in a microwavable cup.
>>
>> Somebody said that it came in cans. I can't remember who now but I
>> think it was someone who isn't in this country.
>
> It was Sheldon, who most certainly is in the USA. I think he was thinking
> of Manwich or some such thing.

Okay.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> When I was a kid I didn't mind the cheeseburger one so much. And believe
>> me when I say that we had a lot of dinners that I flat out would not eat.
>> Like the poached fish and liver. That being said, this is not a product
>> I
>> would ever choose to eat.
>
> That came in a box??

No. The poached fish and the liver did not come in a box. I just wish they
had never come into the house. My mom knew two ways to poach fish. One was
in water will dill weed and the other was in tomato juice. No other
seasonings. And cooked till rubbery. These were fed to us during the
Weight Watcher years. The liver was cooked somehow with onions and it too
was rubbery.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/18/2014 5:47 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> When I was a kid I didn't mind the cheeseburger one so much. And
>>> believe
>>> me when I say that we had a lot of dinners that I flat out would not
>>> eat.
>>> Like the poached fish and liver. That being said, this is not a
>>> product I
>>> would ever choose to eat.
>>
>> That came in a box??
>>
> LOL I'm sure the poached fish and liver didn't come in a box. She's still
> talking about Hamburger Helper. Cheeseburger-Macaroni is one of the
> flavours HH makes. It's basically macaroni & cheese, just add cooked
> minced beef.

Yes.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> When I was a kid I didn't mind the cheeseburger one so much. And
>>> believe
>>> me when I say that we had a lot of dinners that I flat out would not
>>> eat.
>>> Like the poached fish and liver. That being said, this is not a product
>>> I
>>> would ever choose to eat.
>>
>> That came in a box??
>
> No. The poached fish and the liver did not come in a box. I just wish
> they had never come into the house. My mom knew two ways to poach fish.
> One was in water will dill weed and the other was in tomato juice. No
> other seasonings. And cooked till rubbery. These were fed to us during
> the Weight Watcher years. The liver was cooked somehow with onions and it
> too was rubbery.

ewww poor you.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 7/18/2014 5:44 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/17/2014 3:47 PM, Gary wrote:

>> Jill is against the flavoring packet but I'll bet they flavor it
>> better than her homemade sauce does.
>>
>> Or not. I've asked her to recipe a flavoring. Let's see what she
>> comes up with.
>>
> I posted a method. There is no "recipe" for homemade HH because what
> you use to season your sauce depends on the end result you're hoping
> for. There are, apparently, a dozen varieties of Hamburger Helper.

I don't think I have ever had Hamburger Helper. I'd try it just
for a joke but I have a feeling it will be way too salty.

Looking around at the nutritional info, indeed sodium seems to
be pretty high. That's why I figured you could make your own
seasoning mix easily enough and avoid the salt overload.

http://caloriecount.about.com/hambur...utrition-m3572

I see the calories, etc is all over the place, they aren't all
high fat/cholesterol. I see they have a rice variety, too.

nancy

On 7/17/2014 10:23 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>
> Indeed I do have issues with chemicals. Look at that yummy list of
> ingredients!
>
> Why would I eat all that crap when I know how to make excellent beef
> stroganoff from scratch? BTW, despite what some people seem to think,
> beef stroganoff is *not* made with ground beef.
>
> I'm not saying I never eat anything with added chemicals. Sure I do.
> But I don't go out of my way to do so.
>
> Jill

It is easy, fast, seems cheap, and if you've never had good food, you
think it tastes good. As a society, we are willing to compromise and pay
for convenience. Just add water and in 15 minutes, dinner is ready.

Where is June Cleaver when we need her?

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:03:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 14:49:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> We had Spaghetti Red a lot growing up which is akin to HH.
>>
>> Never heard of that. Spaghetti red always means inexpensive red table
>> wine to me.

Nope, for red wine that would be:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dago+Red

>You haven't been reading my posts then. I have posted of it countless times
>before.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_Red

On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 04:06:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 7/17/2014 5:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 06:12:41 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When did Hamburger Helper start coming in cans? The last time I
>>>>> noticed it on a shelf, it was a box
>>>>> package with some pasta and a seasoning/sauce packet.
>>>>>
>>>>> N.
>>>>
>>>> It would help if you could quote what you're talking about. Where did
>>>> he say Hamburger Helper came in cans? He was talking about Kraft Mac
>>>> n Cheese in a microwavable cup.
>>>
>>> Somebody said that it came in cans. I can't remember who now but I
>>> think it was someone who isn't in this country.
>>
>> It was Sheldon, who most certainly is in the USA. I think he was thinking
>> of Manwich or some such thing.
>
>Okay.

This is the one I know, the grands love it.... not really a can...
more a cup, almost a B:
http://www.amazon.com/Hamburger-Help...mburger+helper

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:01:17 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:30:11 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:14:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> How soon you forget. A few weeks or perhaps it was a few months ago
> >> >> you
> >> >> posted that you had found cooked chicken breast to use in your
> >> >> enchiladas.
> >> >> That has been available for years but you said you had just discovered
> >> >> it.
> >> >
> >> > What???? No I didn't. If I talked about using cooked chicken it was
> >> > because I'd used leftover rotisserie chicken.
> >>
> >> I know that you did. Several people discussed it with you. You said
> >> that
> >> you found it and it would be handy for enchiladas. I have no clue how to
> >> look that up and I'm not inclined to look stuff up but I know that you
> >> said
> >> it.
> >
> > OIC the big IF. Well, that changes everything. So they got a new
> > item in and I commented. Whoop tee do.
> >
> I'll repost it for you again.
>
> "
> My kids made it abundantly clear to me that I'm not one for ready made
> foods or keep any significant quantity of fully cooked food on hand...
> because they told me a story about when they were teenagers. One of
> my son's best friends remarked to him upon surveying my stuffed
> refrigerator: There's lots of food, but nothing to eat!
>
> That said, I do admit to not paying attention to what's available in
> the deli section or the inner aisles for that matter, so you can only
> imagine my surprise when I discovered shredded chicken in the deli
> refrigerator case. I'm hoping it's a regular item because it would
> certainly shave some time off making certain dishes like enchilada
> stuffed zucchini where I had to thaw and cook a couple of chicken
> thighs so I could shred them - just to get going with the recipe.

The first line says I don't buy ready made food and I haven't given
them a second thought since.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 7/18/2014 8:17 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 7/18/2014 5:44 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/17/2014 3:47 PM, Gary wrote:
>
>>> Jill is against the flavoring packet but I'll bet they flavor it
>>> better than her homemade sauce does.
>>>
>>> Or not. I've asked her to recipe a flavoring. Let's see what she
>>> comes up with.
>>>
>> I posted a method. There is no "recipe" for homemade HH because what
>> you use to season your sauce depends on the end result you're hoping
>> for. There are, apparently, a dozen varieties of Hamburger Helper.
>
> I don't think I have ever had Hamburger Helper. I'd try it just
> for a joke but I have a feeling it will be way too salty.
>
> Looking around at the nutritional info, indeed sodium seems to
> be pretty high. That's why I figured you could make your own
> seasoning mix easily enough and avoid the salt overload.
>
> http://caloriecount.about.com/hambur...utrition-m3572
>
> I see the calories, etc is all over the place, they aren't all
> high fat/cholesterol. I see they have a rice variety, too.
>
> nancy
>
>
You're not missing anything.

Jill

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:34:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:14:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> How soon you forget. A few weeks or perhaps it was a few months ago you
> >> posted that you had found cooked chicken breast to use in your
> >> enchiladas.
> >> That has been available for years but you said you had just discovered
> >> it.
> >
> > What???? No I didn't. If I talked about using cooked chicken it was
> > because I'd used leftover rotisserie chicken.
> >
> > --
> > All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
>
> Okay, here it is. I have to quote it as I found it via search on my
> newsreader. Not gonna take the time to google it.
>
> "
> My kids made it abundantly clear to me that I'm not one for ready made
> foods or keep any significant quantity of fully cooked food on hand...

You are truly on a different planet, Julie. You're a stay at home
mother who still doesn't cook real food.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Friday, July 18, 2014 8:31:56 AM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:34:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> > "sf" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
>
> > > On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:14:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >> How soon you forget. A few weeks or perhaps it was a few months ago you
>
> > >> posted that you had found cooked chicken breast to use in your
>
> > >> enchiladas.
>
> > >> That has been available for years but you said you had just discovered
>
> > >> it.
>
> > >
>
> > > What???? No I didn't. If I talked about using cooked chicken it was
>
> > > because I'd used leftover rotisserie chicken.
>
> > >
>
> > > --
>
> > > All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
>
> >
>
> > Okay, here it is. I have to quote it as I found it via search on my
>
> > newsreader. Not gonna take the time to google it.
>
> >
>
> > "
>
> > My kids made it abundantly clear to me that I'm not one for ready made
>
> > foods or keep any significant quantity of fully cooked food on hand...
>
>
>
> You are truly on a different planet, Julie. You're a stay at home
>
> mother who still doesn't cook real food.
>
Understatement of the year.

On 7/18/2014 10:31 AM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:34:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:14:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> How soon you forget. A few weeks or perhaps it was a few months ago you
>>>> posted that you had found cooked chicken breast to use in your
>>>> enchiladas.
>>>> That has been available for years but you said you had just discovered
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> What???? No I didn't. If I talked about using cooked chicken it was
>>> because I'd used leftover rotisserie chicken.
>>
>> Okay, here it is. I have to quote it as I found it via search on my
>> newsreader. Not gonna take the time to google it.
>>
>> "
>> My kids made it abundantly clear to me that I'm not one for ready made
>> foods or keep any significant quantity of fully cooked food on hand...
>
> You are truly on a different planet, Julie. You're a stay at home
> mother who still doesn't cook real food.
>
But... but... she makes this sort of with crumbled pre-cooked hamburgers
topped with canned biscuits! How can you say she doesn't cook real
food? LOL

Jill

On 7/17/2014 5:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/16/2014 2:47 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> My point about Hamburger Helper is, it's not really that much of a
>>>> time-saver.
>>>
>>> My mom loved it because she could make it in her electric skillet.
>>
>> According to the Mommy forum where the $200 a month thread was posted,
>> that's about *all* they have. "We make 98% of our food from scratch
>> (the best we can...we don't have an oven or a stove--just the
>> microwave, a grill, and an electric skillet"). That might be half the
>> problem right there.
>
> Yes! I always keep this in mind when I buy for the food bank. I can
> remember a radio announcer making mention of this. They gave a woman in
> Seattle a big basket of food. She began to cry and said that not only
> did she have no way to prepare the food but no dishes. So the announcer
> reminded us that if we were going to donate, to donate things that could
> be eaten as is.
>>
>> IMHO it's pretty darn difficult to cook for one, much less a family,
>> without having the proper equipment. Every apartment (or house) I
>> *ever* rented came equipped with a stove/oven.
>>
> I looked at one place near Greenlake that was advertised as an
> apartment. The kitchen had some counters and cupboards and a big utility
> type sink. There was a really old stove but no fridge.

Lots of places don't offer refrigerators.

Also no place to
> put a fridge as it was a very small place. To make matters worse, the
> bedroom was so small that with a full sized bed in it, you had to climb
> over the bed to get into the bathroom. I declined.
>

Good idea. I once looked at an attic-apartment where I'd have had to
share a bathroom with the owners and "borrow" their kitchen. I also
declined.

> I had a friend who was renting a room in the Ballard area. It was a
> nice slzed furnished room with a full sized fridge but no stove or
> microwave. But this was long enough ago that many people still didn't
> have microwaves.
>
Ah, long ago. As opposed to when the thing on the Mommy forum was
written, in 2014. I never *ever* rented a house or apartment that came
with a microwave. Sorry, some things you have to pay for yourself.

> My mom's current place has a small fridge. Smaller than full sized but
> larger than those little hotel types.

Your mom is in Assisted Living. Having a kitchenette is a totally
different thing.

> She has two burners and a small
> microwave. No oven. But... Meals are included in her rent so
> techincally she doesn't need to cook.
>
Again, Assisted Living. You're comparing apples to oranges. Can't be done.

> Also keep in mind that a lot of our county's poor are forced to live in
> rooms or motels because they can't afford to save up enough to rent an
> apartment.
>
Yeah, right. She's spending $850 a month to feed the family. I doubt
she's crawling to the public library to post on the cafemom web forum.
You really need to read the article before you mouth off about stuff.

>> She also wrote "We do not go to restaurants more than 1-2 times a
>> month (and that's usually only a $30-$50 bill...). So stop going out
>> to eat and put that $30-50 a month towards a stove/oven. It doesn't
>> have to be brand-spanking new. Eating out is a luxury, not a
>> necessity. YMMV.
>
> If they are living in a room or motel, they probably can't put in a stove.

You're making HUGE assumptions again. Nowhere did she say she's living
in a rented room (or a motel room) with a family of four. You're just
positing a bunch of bullshit.

Jill

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > When I was a kid I didn't mind the cheeseburger one so much. And believe
> > me when I say that we had a lot of dinners that I flat out would not eat.
> > Like the poached fish and liver. That being said, this is not a product I
> > would ever choose to eat.
>
> That came in a box??

I seriously doubt that poached fish and liver was a HH variety. LOL!


g.

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> On 7/18/2014 5:44 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 7/17/2014 3:47 PM, Gary wrote:
>
> >> Jill is against the flavoring packet but I'll bet they flavor it
> >> better than her homemade sauce does.
> >>
> >> Or not. I've asked her to recipe a flavoring. Let's see what she
> >> comes up with.
> >>
> > I posted a method. There is no "recipe" for homemade HH because what
> > you use to season your sauce depends on the end result you're hoping
> > for. There are, apparently, a dozen varieties of Hamburger Helper.
>
> I don't think I have ever had Hamburger Helper. I'd try it just
> for a joke but I have a feeling it will be way too salty.
>
> Looking around at the nutritional info, indeed sodium seems to
> be pretty high. That's why I figured you could make your own
> seasoning mix easily enough and avoid the salt overload.
>
> http://caloriecount.about.com/hambur...utrition-m3572
>
> I see the calories, etc is all over the place, they aren't all
> high fat/cholesterol. I see they have a rice variety, too.
>
> nancy

I don't eat it often at all. Maybe once or twice a year but I do like
it when I do eat it.

G.

jmcquown > wrote:
> On 7/18/2014 10:31 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:34:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:14:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How soon you forget. A few weeks or perhaps it was a few months ago you
>>>>> posted that you had found cooked chicken breast to use in your
>>>>> enchiladas.
>>>>> That has been available for years but you said you had just discovered
>>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> What???? No I didn't. If I talked about using cooked chicken it was
>>>> because I'd used leftover rotisserie chicken.
>>>
>>> Okay, here it is. I have to quote it as I found it via search on my
>>> newsreader. Not gonna take the time to google it.
>>>
>>> "
>>> My kids made it abundantly clear to me that I'm not one for ready made
>>> foods or keep any significant quantity of fully cooked food on hand...
>>
>> You are truly on a different planet, Julie. You're a stay at home
>> mother who still doesn't cook real food.
>>
> But... but... she makes this sort of with crumbled pre-cooked hamburgers
> topped with canned biscuits! How can you say she doesn't cook real food? LOL
>
> Jill

Don't forget the canned gravy!
--
jinx the minx

On 7/18/2014 6:12 PM, jinx the minx wrote:
> jmcquown > wrote:
>> On 7/18/2014 10:31 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:34:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:14:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How soon you forget. A few weeks or perhaps it was a few months ago you
>>>>>> posted that you had found cooked chicken breast to use in your
>>>>>> enchiladas.
>>>>>> That has been available for years but you said you had just discovered
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> What???? No I didn't. If I talked about using cooked chicken it was
>>>>> because I'd used leftover rotisserie chicken.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, here it is. I have to quote it as I found it via search on my
>>>> newsreader. Not gonna take the time to google it.
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>> My kids made it abundantly clear to me that I'm not one for ready made
>>>> foods or keep any significant quantity of fully cooked food on hand...
>>>
>>> You are truly on a different planet, Julie. You're a stay at home
>>> mother who still doesn't cook real food.
>>>
>> But... but... she makes this sort of [something] with crumbled pre-cooked hamburgers
>> topped with canned biscuits! How can you say she doesn't cook real food? LOL
>>
>> Jill
>
> Don't forget the canned gravy!
>
Darn, I forgot about that. That was some real cooking!

Jill

On 7/18/2014 12:46 PM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> When I was a kid I didn't mind the cheeseburger one so much. And believe
>>> me when I say that we had a lot of dinners that I flat out would not eat.
>>> Like the poached fish and liver. That being said, this is not a product I
>>> would ever choose to eat.
>>
>> That came in a box??
>
> I seriously doubt that poached fish and liver was a HH variety. LOL!
>
>
> g.
>
It might become a cat food variety. LOL

Jill

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 04:06:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 7/17/2014 5:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 06:12:41 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When did Hamburger Helper start coming in cans? The last time I
>>>>>> noticed it on a shelf, it was a box
>>>>>> package with some pasta and a seasoning/sauce packet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> N.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would help if you could quote what you're talking about. Where did
>>>>> he say Hamburger Helper came in cans? He was talking about Kraft Mac
>>>>> n Cheese in a microwavable cup.
>>>>
>>>> Somebody said that it came in cans. I can't remember who now but I
>>>> think it was someone who isn't in this country.
>>>
>>> It was Sheldon, who most certainly is in the USA. I think he was
>>> thinking
>>> of Manwich or some such thing.
>>
>>Okay.
>
> This is the one I know, the grands love it.... not really a can...
> more a cup, almost a B:
> http://www.amazon.com/Hamburger-Help...mburger+helper

Huh. Never seen those before but then that is a section of the store that I
never look at.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:01:17 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:30:11 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:14:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> How soon you forget. A few weeks or perhaps it was a few months
>> >> >> ago
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> posted that you had found cooked chicken breast to use in your
>> >> >> enchiladas.
>> >> >> That has been available for years but you said you had just
>> >> >> discovered
>> >> >> it.
>> >> >
>> >> > What???? No I didn't. If I talked about using cooked chicken it
>> >> > was
>> >> > because I'd used leftover rotisserie chicken.
>> >>
>> >> I know that you did. Several people discussed it with you. You said
>> >> that
>> >> you found it and it would be handy for enchiladas. I have no clue how
>> >> to
>> >> look that up and I'm not inclined to look stuff up but I know that you
>> >> said
>> >> it.
>> >
>> > OIC the big IF. Well, that changes everything. So they got a new
>> > item in and I commented. Whoop tee do.
>> >
>> I'll repost it for you again.
>>
>> "
>> My kids made it abundantly clear to me that I'm not one for ready made
>> foods or keep any significant quantity of fully cooked food on hand...
>> because they told me a story about when they were teenagers. One of
>> my son's best friends remarked to him upon surveying my stuffed
>> refrigerator: There's lots of food, but nothing to eat!
>>
>> That said, I do admit to not paying attention to what's available in
>> the deli section or the inner aisles for that matter, so you can only
>> imagine my surprise when I discovered shredded chicken in the deli
>> refrigerator case. I'm hoping it's a regular item because it would
>> certainly shave some time off making certain dishes like enchilada
>> stuffed zucchini where I had to thaw and cook a couple of chicken
>> thighs so I could shred them - just to get going with the recipe.
>
> The first line says I don't buy ready made food and I haven't given
> them a second thought since.
>
The second paragraph says you're hoping it's a regular item because it would
certainly shave some time off making certain dishes like enchilada stuffed
zucchini...

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:34:55 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:14:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> How soon you forget. A few weeks or perhaps it was a few months ago
>> >> you
>> >> posted that you had found cooked chicken breast to use in your
>> >> enchiladas.
>> >> That has been available for years but you said you had just discovered
>> >> it.
>> >
>> > What???? No I didn't. If I talked about using cooked chicken it was
>> > because I'd used leftover rotisserie chicken.
>> >
>> > --
>> > All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
>>
>> Okay, here it is. I have to quote it as I found it via search on my
>> newsreader. Not gonna take the time to google it.
>>
>> "
>> My kids made it abundantly clear to me that I'm not one for ready made
>> foods or keep any significant quantity of fully cooked food on hand...
>
> You are truly on a different planet, Julie. You're a stay at home
> mother who still doesn't cook real food.

Why does everyone keep saying this? I certainly do cook real food!

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...

> But... but... she makes this sort of with crumbled pre-cooked hamburgers
> topped with canned biscuits! How can you say she doesn't cook real food?
> LOL

So? I made that. That was the first time that I ever made it and I made it
because I was low on food save for the pantry items. I make all sorts of
food and much of it from scratch!

"jinx the minx" > wrote in message
...
> Don't forget the canned gravy!

There was no canned gravy! I don't even think there is a canned gravy that
I can eat. It all has dairy in it.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...

> Darn, I forgot about that. That was some real cooking!

How can you forget about something that I never used?

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/17/2014 5:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/16/2014 2:47 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> My point about Hamburger Helper is, it's not really that much of a
>>>>> time-saver.
>>>>
>>>> My mom loved it because she could make it in her electric skillet.
>>>
>>> According to the Mommy forum where the $200 a month thread was posted,
>>> that's about *all* they have. "We make 98% of our food from scratch
>>> (the best we can...we don't have an oven or a stove--just the
>>> microwave, a grill, and an electric skillet"). That might be half the
>>> problem right there.
>>
>> Yes! I always keep this in mind when I buy for the food bank. I can
>> remember a radio announcer making mention of this. They gave a woman in
>> Seattle a big basket of food. She began to cry and said that not only
>> did she have no way to prepare the food but no dishes. So the announcer
>> reminded us that if we were going to donate, to donate things that could
>> be eaten as is.
>>>
>>> IMHO it's pretty darn difficult to cook for one, much less a family,
>>> without having the proper equipment. Every apartment (or house) I
>>> *ever* rented came equipped with a stove/oven.
>>>
>> I looked at one place near Greenlake that was advertised as an
>> apartment. The kitchen had some counters and cupboards and a big utility
>> type sink. There was a really old stove but no fridge.
>
> Lots of places don't offer refrigerators.

Here you can not legally rent an apartment without one. A room? Yes.
>
> Also no place to
>> put a fridge as it was a very small place. To make matters worse, the
>> bedroom was so small that with a full sized bed in it, you had to climb
>> over the bed to get into the bathroom. I declined.
>>
>
> Good idea. I once looked at an attic-apartment where I'd have had to
> share a bathroom with the owners and "borrow" their kitchen. I also
> declined.
>
>> I had a friend who was renting a room in the Ballard area. It was a
>> nice slzed furnished room with a full sized fridge but no stove or
>> microwave. But this was long enough ago that many people still didn't
>> have microwaves.
>>
> Ah, long ago. As opposed to when the thing on the Mommy forum was
> written, in 2014. I never *ever* rented a house or apartment that came
> with a microwave. Sorry, some things you have to pay for yourself.

I haven't either but these days at least in this area, pretty much all of
the apartments come with. My mom bought my nephew a microwave when he was
going to get his first apartment. I begged her to hold off as I was sure it
would have one. It did. And all of the places he has rented since have.
>
>> My mom's current place has a small fridge. Smaller than full sized but
>> larger than those little hotel types.
>
> Your mom is in Assisted Living. Having a kitchenette is a totally
> different thing.

It's not assisted really. Although they do help with some things. It's
apartments for 55 and older.
>
>> She has two burners and a small
>> microwave. No oven. But... Meals are included in her rent so
>> techincally she doesn't need to cook.
>>
> Again, Assisted Living. You're comparing apples to oranges. Can't be
> done.

Not really. They have a dining room, take out the trash once a week and
wash linens once a week. They also provide some services like a beauty
salon and driving places for a fee. And they take planned outings. But it
isn't really assisted in that they don't help with bathing, meds, etc.
>
>> Also keep in mind that a lot of our county's poor are forced to live in
>> rooms or motels because they can't afford to save up enough to rent an
>> apartment.
>>
> Yeah, right. She's spending $850 a month to feed the family. I doubt
> she's crawling to the public library to post on the cafemom web forum. You
> really need to read the article before you mouth off about stuff.

I did read it.
>
>>> She also wrote "We do not go to restaurants more than 1-2 times a
>>> month (and that's usually only a $30-$50 bill...). So stop going out
>>> to eat and put that $30-50 a month towards a stove/oven. It doesn't
>>> have to be brand-spanking new. Eating out is a luxury, not a
>>> necessity. YMMV.
>>
>> If they are living in a room or motel, they probably can't put in a
>> stove.
>
> You're making HUGE assumptions again. Nowhere did she say she's living in
> a rented room (or a motel room) with a family of four. You're just
> positing a bunch of bullshit.

You're making huge assumptions too. Really nobody knows.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > When I was a kid I didn't mind the cheeseburger one so much. And
>> > believe
>> > me when I say that we had a lot of dinners that I flat out would not
>> > eat.
>> > Like the poached fish and liver. That being said, this is not a
>> > product I
>> > would ever choose to eat.
>>
>> That came in a box??
>
> I seriously doubt that poached fish and liver was a HH variety. LOL!

Right.

On 7/18/2014 7:08 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> But... but... she makes this sort of with crumbled pre-cooked
>> hamburgers topped with canned biscuits! How can you say she doesn't
>> cook real food? LOL
>
> So? I made that.

You *bragged* about it. You were so proud of it you posted about it.
Everyone ate it!

> That was the first time that I ever made it and I
> made it because I was low on food save for the pantry items. I make all
> sorts of food and much of it from scratch!

Do tell. You make canned biscuits from scratch?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/18/2014 12:46 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> When I was a kid I didn't mind the cheeseburger one so much. And
>>>> believe
>>>> me when I say that we had a lot of dinners that I flat out would not
>>>> eat.
>>>> Like the poached fish and liver. That being said, this is not a
>>>> product I
>>>> would ever choose to eat.
>>>
>>> That came in a box??
>>
>> I seriously doubt that poached fish and liver was a HH variety. LOL!
>>
>>
>> g.
>>
> It might become a cat food variety. LOL

Only if there's cheese with it.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/18/2014 7:08 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> But... but... she makes this sort of with crumbled pre-cooked
>>> hamburgers topped with canned biscuits! How can you say she doesn't
>>> cook real food? LOL
>>
>> So? I made that.
>
> You *bragged* about it. You were so proud of it you posted about it.
> Everyone ate it!

I would hardly say that was bragging. And what everyone ate was not what I
made with the frozen hamburger patties. I made that dish when there was
little to no fresh food in the house.
>
>> That was the first time that I ever made it and I
>> made it because I was low on food save for the pantry items. I make all
>> sorts of food and much of it from scratch!
>
> Do tell. You make canned biscuits from scratch?

*sigh* I do not make everything from scratch. I'll bet few people here
make everything from scratch. If you say that you do then you're lying if
you buy butter, dried or fresh pasta, cheese, I could go on and on.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/18/2014 7:08 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> But... but... she makes this sort of with crumbled pre-cooked
>>> hamburgers topped with canned biscuits! How can you say she doesn't
>>> cook real food? LOL
>>
>> So? I made that.
>
> You *bragged* about it. You were so proud of it you posted about it.
> Everyone ate it!
>
>> That was the first time that I ever made it and I
>> made it because I was low on food save for the pantry items. I make all
>> sorts of food and much of it from scratch!
>
> Do tell. You make canned biscuits from scratch?
>
> Jill
>

Your narcissism is showing again.

"Earl" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/18/2014 7:08 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> But... but... she makes this sort of with crumbled pre-cooked
>>>> hamburgers topped with canned biscuits! How can you say she doesn't
>>>> cook real food? LOL
>>>
>>> So? I made that.
>>
>> You *bragged* about it. You were so proud of it you posted about it.
>> Everyone ate it!
>>
>>> That was the first time that I ever made it and I
>>> made it because I was low on food save for the pantry items. I make all
>>> sorts of food and much of it from scratch!
>>
>> Do tell. You make canned biscuits from scratch?
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> Your narcissism is showing again.

God help me I am beginning to agree with you

--
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jmcquown wrote:
>
> Do we know that he knows how to make biscuits and gravy?

I've never made it or even had it for a meal. It sounds kind of
plain for a meal to me.

G.

On 7/17/2014 9:14 AM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 09:18:06 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/17/2014 7:15 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> It's an all in one meal. Contains a starch such as potatoes, rice or
>>>> pasta. All of these things are precooked and dried. You brown your
>>>> own ground beef, then add the dried sauce packet, some water and your
>>>> starch. Cook for a few more minutes and it's done.
>>>
>>> It sounds dreadful!
>>>
>> It is pretty dreadful. Especially since it's so easy to make something
>> very similar from scratch with your own good ingredients.

Easy if you know how to cook. Plus, it will be more expensive in many
instances. Making that cheezburger macaroni HH involves a dollar for
the box and a few dollars more for a pound of ground beef. Making a
superior home made version involves buying a package of macaroni and
several assorted varieties of cheese and some milk, besides the ground
beef. Making the potatoes stroganoff version at home requires buying a
few potatoes, some beef stock or bouillon, and some sour cream,
besides the ground beef. Plus the additional time spent peeling and
slicing the potatoes. There are people who can't or won't be bothered
to spend the extra time and money to achieve a better product. And
there are those who just prefer the packaged version.

>>
>> Jill
>
> Emulating anything Hamburger Helperish doesn't sound very good either.
> I think the only people who would use the product or make something
> similar at home must make a lot of noodle laden casseroles.
>

You say that like it's a bad thing. : -)

HH and the like are a success because they provide a quick, good
tasting hot meal for people who don't know much about cooking -
especially kids. If you're a kid tasked with getting a meal on the
table, odds are you'll start by fixing simple meals like these. If
your parents aren't interested in cooking at all, you probably won't
progress much beyond it. And for anyone who has a lot of hungry mouths
to feed, and not much money to spend, noodles, potatoes, rice and
beans are the answer, usually in the form of a casserole.