sf wrote:
>

> However In N
> Out isn't franchised and their product is very consistent from shop to
> shop. In N Out is a great value too.

If that is the case, I am puzzled at how they get so much hype. I've
eaten at a few In-N-Out locations in different states, and they were all
just so-so. Not a bad burger, but not even remotely anything to rave
about. Here in TX there are fast food burger options that are much
better such as Braum's.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:16:26 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
> sf wrote:
> >
>
> > However In N
> > Out isn't franchised and their product is very consistent from shop to
> > shop. In N Out is a great value too.
>
> If that is the case, I am puzzled at how they get so much hype. I've
> eaten at a few In-N-Out locations in different states, and they were all
> just so-so. Not a bad burger, but not even remotely anything to rave
> about. Here in TX there are fast food burger options that are much
> better such as Braum's.

What is the cost of a Braum's vs the cost of an In N Out?

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

sf wrote:
>
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:16:26 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
> >
> > sf wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > However In N
> > > Out isn't franchised and their product is very consistent from shop to
> > > shop. In N Out is a great value too.
> >
> > If that is the case, I am puzzled at how they get so much hype. I've
> > eaten at a few In-N-Out locations in different states, and they were all
> > just so-so. Not a bad burger, but not even remotely anything to rave
> > about. Here in TX there are fast food burger options that are much
> > better such as Braum's.
>
> What is the cost of a Braum's vs the cost of an In N Out?

Unfortunately since neither chain lists prices online, that's a bit of a
pain to find. I will be out running lunch errands near a Braum's
location so I can check the price there. There aren't any In-N-Outs in
the immediate area so I can't check there today.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 10:01:40 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:
>
> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:16:26 -0500, "Pete C." >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > sf wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > > However In N
> > > > Out isn't franchised and their product is very consistent from shop to
> > > > shop. In N Out is a great value too.
> > >
> > > If that is the case, I am puzzled at how they get so much hype. I've
> > > eaten at a few In-N-Out locations in different states, and they were all
> > > just so-so. Not a bad burger, but not even remotely anything to rave
> > > about. Here in TX there are fast food burger options that are much
> > > better such as Braum's.
> >
> > What is the cost of a Braum's vs the cost of an In N Out?
>
> Unfortunately since neither chain lists prices online, that's a bit of a
> pain to find. I will be out running lunch errands near a Braum's
> location so I can check the price there. There aren't any In-N-Outs in
> the immediate area so I can't check there today.

Figure $2 for a single patty (I don't know the ounces, but it's big
enough for me) and you can tell them to pile the toppings (lettuce,
onion, tomato) on for free. My usual is a "double single" with extra
toppings. At minimum I double the onion (these are slices, not rings
or chopped), because I love raw onion on a burger.

I think most people try to make chains like 5 Guys and In N Out into
something they are not. They are *fast food*, not gourmet burgers.
If I want a gourmet burger, I go to a sit down restaurant with a real
grill (wood or lump coal fire) to cook them on.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Friday, July 11, 2014 9:30:37 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:16:26 -0500, "Pete C." >
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> > sf wrote:
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > However In N
>
> > > Out isn't franchised and their product is very consistent from shop to
>
> > > shop. In N Out is a great value too.
>
> >
>
> > If that is the case, I am puzzled at how they get so much hype. I've
>
> > eaten at a few In-N-Out locations in different states, and they were all
>
> > just so-so. Not a bad burger, but not even remotely anything to rave
>
> > about. Here in TX there are fast food burger options that are much
>
> > better such as Braum's.
>
>
>
> What is the cost of a Braum's vs the cost of an In N Out?
>
Braum's burgers are decent, I guess, but they have great milkshakes,
sundaes, etc. They also do this weird thing with their reduced fat
milks, where they remove some of the water, I think centrifugally, but
I may be mistaken.

I was mistaken, he
http://www.braums.com/faq/

Anyway, the fat free milk, once you add cream back to it, is delicious.
Unfortunately, the closest Braum's is 200+ miles SSW of here, but when
we go through Springfield, I always get a gallon of the fat free, and
some heavy cream. Maybe we need a trip to the skateparks of NW Arkansas.

--Bryan

sf wrote:
>
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 10:01:40 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
> >
> > sf wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:16:26 -0500, "Pete C." >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > sf wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > However In N
> > > > > Out isn't franchised and their product is very consistent from shop to
> > > > > shop. In N Out is a great value too.
> > > >
> > > > If that is the case, I am puzzled at how they get so much hype. I've
> > > > eaten at a few In-N-Out locations in different states, and they were all
> > > > just so-so. Not a bad burger, but not even remotely anything to rave
> > > > about. Here in TX there are fast food burger options that are much
> > > > better such as Braum's.
> > >
> > > What is the cost of a Braum's vs the cost of an In N Out?
> >
> > Unfortunately since neither chain lists prices online, that's a bit of a
> > pain to find. I will be out running lunch errands near a Braum's
> > location so I can check the price there. There aren't any In-N-Outs in
> > the immediate area so I can't check there today.
>
> Figure $2 for a single patty (I don't know the ounces, but it's big
> enough for me) and you can tell them to pile the toppings (lettuce,
> onion, tomato) on for free. My usual is a "double single" with extra
> toppings. At minimum I double the onion (these are slices, not rings
> or chopped), because I love raw onion on a burger.
>
> I think most people try to make chains like 5 Guys and In N Out into
> something they are not. They are *fast food*, not gourmet burgers.
> If I want a gourmet burger, I go to a sit down restaurant with a real
> grill (wood or lump coal fire) to cook them on.
>
> --
> All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

1/3 lb (5.3 oz) standard burger $3.49
1/6 lb (2.6 oz) standard burger $1.99
(standard burger with lettuce, tomato, onion, etc.)

I compare to Braum's since they are also fast food, vs. gourmet burger.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:23:00 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:
>
> 1/3 lb (5.3 oz) standard burger $3.49
> 1/6 lb (2.6 oz) standard burger $1.99
> (standard burger with lettuce, tomato, onion, etc.)
>
> I compare to Braum's since they are also fast food, vs. gourmet burger.

Their price structure is similar, thanks! In N Out doesn't have
different sized patties, but they will add extra patties at $2 each.
Like I said before, you can have as much of the toppings as you want
for no extra charge unlike some of the other FF chains (thinking about
Carl's in particular) that charge if you want extra.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:23:00 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
>sf wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 10:01:40 -0500, "Pete C." >
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > sf wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:16:26 -0500, "Pete C." >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > sf wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > However In N
>> > > > > Out isn't franchised and their product is very consistent from shop to
>> > > > > shop. In N Out is a great value too.
>> > > >
>> > > > If that is the case, I am puzzled at how they get so much hype. I've
>> > > > eaten at a few In-N-Out locations in different states, and they were all
>> > > > just so-so. Not a bad burger, but not even remotely anything to rave
>> > > > about. Here in TX there are fast food burger options that are much
>> > > > better such as Braum's.
>> > >
>> > > What is the cost of a Braum's vs the cost of an In N Out?
>> >
>> > Unfortunately since neither chain lists prices online, that's a bit of a
>> > pain to find. I will be out running lunch errands near a Braum's
>> > location so I can check the price there. There aren't any In-N-Outs in
>> > the immediate area so I can't check there today.
>>
>> Figure $2 for a single patty (I don't know the ounces, but it's big
>> enough for me) and you can tell them to pile the toppings (lettuce,
>> onion, tomato) on for free. My usual is a "double single" with extra
>> toppings. At minimum I double the onion (these are slices, not rings
>> or chopped), because I love raw onion on a burger.
>>
>> I think most people try to make chains like 5 Guys and In N Out into
>> something they are not. They are *fast food*, not gourmet burgers.
>> If I want a gourmet burger, I go to a sit down restaurant with a real
>> grill (wood or lump coal fire) to cook them on.
>>
>> --
>> All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
>
>1/3 lb (5.3 oz) standard burger $3.49
>1/6 lb (2.6 oz) standard burger $1.99
>(standard burger with lettuce, tomato, onion, etc.)
>
>I compare to Braum's since they are also fast food, vs. gourmet burger.

Those mystery meat burgers are puny... can't compare to my freshly
ground never frozen 12 ounce USDA Choice beef burgers, and cooked as
rare as one likes.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:23:00 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >sf wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 10:01:40 -0500, "Pete C." >
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > sf wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:16:26 -0500, "Pete C." >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > sf wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > However In N
> >> > > > > Out isn't franchised and their product is very consistent from shop to
> >> > > > > shop. In N Out is a great value too.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If that is the case, I am puzzled at how they get so much hype. I've
> >> > > > eaten at a few In-N-Out locations in different states, and they were all
> >> > > > just so-so. Not a bad burger, but not even remotely anything to rave
> >> > > > about. Here in TX there are fast food burger options that are much
> >> > > > better such as Braum's.
> >> > >
> >> > > What is the cost of a Braum's vs the cost of an In N Out?
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately since neither chain lists prices online, that's a bit of a
> >> > pain to find. I will be out running lunch errands near a Braum's
> >> > location so I can check the price there. There aren't any In-N-Outs in
> >> > the immediate area so I can't check there today.
> >>
> >> Figure $2 for a single patty (I don't know the ounces, but it's big
> >> enough for me) and you can tell them to pile the toppings (lettuce,
> >> onion, tomato) on for free. My usual is a "double single" with extra
> >> toppings. At minimum I double the onion (these are slices, not rings
> >> or chopped), because I love raw onion on a burger.
> >>
> >> I think most people try to make chains like 5 Guys and In N Out into
> >> something they are not. They are *fast food*, not gourmet burgers.
> >> If I want a gourmet burger, I go to a sit down restaurant with a real
> >> grill (wood or lump coal fire) to cook them on.
> >>
> >> --
> >> All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.
> >
> >1/3 lb (5.3 oz) standard burger $3.49
> >1/6 lb (2.6 oz) standard burger $1.99
> >(standard burger with lettuce, tomato, onion, etc.)
> >
> >I compare to Braum's since they are also fast food, vs. gourmet burger.
>
> Those mystery meat burgers are puny... can't compare to my freshly
> ground never frozen 12 ounce USDA Choice beef burgers, and cooked as
> rare as one likes.

Spend some time on the Braum's site ( http://www.braums.com/tour-braums/
) and you'll find that Braum's is quite a bit different from the big
chains. In fact, Braum's only opens stores within a distance from their
plants that allow them to get a truck of fresh product to the store at
least every other day.

When I do burgers at home it's always fresh ground and medium rare, but
I still try not to make them too big. I don't care to become "super
sized" like so much of the population these days is.

On 7/11/2014 9:16 AM, Pete C. wrote:
>
> sf wrote:
>>
>
>> However In N
>> Out isn't franchised and their product is very consistent from shop to
>> shop. In N Out is a great value too.
>
> If that is the case, I am puzzled at how they get so much hype. I've
> eaten at a few In-N-Out locations in different states, and they were all
> just so-so. Not a bad burger, but not even remotely anything to rave
> about. Here in TX there are fast food burger options that are much
> better such as Braum's.

Is willing to try Habit Burger, although the closest location to Texas
is Phoenix, AZ. Have tried Five Guys, In-N-Out, Steak & Shake, Sonic,
Fuddrucker's, Fatburger's and a few others. Fuddrucker's is my favorite
and Whataburger comes in second. Whataburger is a local chain.

Becca

Ema Nymton wrote:
>
> On 7/11/2014 9:16 AM, Pete C. wrote:
> >
> > sf wrote:
> >>
> >
> >> However In N
> >> Out isn't franchised and their product is very consistent from shop to
> >> shop. In N Out is a great value too.
> >
> > If that is the case, I am puzzled at how they get so much hype. I've
> > eaten at a few In-N-Out locations in different states, and they were all
> > just so-so. Not a bad burger, but not even remotely anything to rave
> > about. Here in TX there are fast food burger options that are much
> > better such as Braum's.
>
> Is willing to try Habit Burger, although the closest location to Texas
> is Phoenix, AZ. Have tried Five Guys, In-N-Out, Steak & Shake, Sonic,
> Fuddrucker's, Fatburger's and a few others. Fuddrucker's is my favorite
> and Whataburger comes in second. Whataburger is a local chain.
>
> Becca

Some of those are "fast food" and some are "sit down", so you can't
really compare the two classes properly. Whataburger is fast food,
Fudruckers isn't, etc.

On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:26:27 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>
> Ema Nymton wrote:
> >
> > On 7/11/2014 9:16 AM, Pete C. wrote:
> > >
> > > sf wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > >> However In N
> > >> Out isn't franchised and their product is very consistent from shop to
> > >> shop. In N Out is a great value too.
> > >
> > > If that is the case, I am puzzled at how they get so much hype. I've
> > > eaten at a few In-N-Out locations in different states, and they were all
> > > just so-so. Not a bad burger, but not even remotely anything to rave
> > > about. Here in TX there are fast food burger options that are much
> > > better such as Braum's.
> >
> > Is willing to try Habit Burger, although the closest location to Texas
> > is Phoenix, AZ. Have tried Five Guys, In-N-Out, Steak & Shake, Sonic,
> > Fuddrucker's, Fatburger's and a few others. Fuddrucker's is my favorite
> > and Whataburger comes in second. Whataburger is a local chain.
> >
> > Becca
>
> Some of those are "fast food" and some are "sit down", so you can't
> really compare the two classes properly. Whataburger is fast food,
> Fudruckers isn't, etc.

Thank you. You seem to be the only other person on the planet that
understands there's a difference.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 7/13/2014 1:59 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:26:27 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Ema Nymton wrote:
>>>
>>> On 7/11/2014 9:16 AM, Pete C. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> However In N
>>>>> Out isn't franchised and their product is very consistent from shop to
>>>>> shop. In N Out is a great value too.
>>>>
>>>> If that is the case, I am puzzled at how they get so much hype. I've
>>>> eaten at a few In-N-Out locations in different states, and they were all
>>>> just so-so. Not a bad burger, but not even remotely anything to rave
>>>> about. Here in TX there are fast food burger options that are much
>>>> better such as Braum's.
>>>
>>> Is willing to try Habit Burger, although the closest location to Texas
>>> is Phoenix, AZ. Have tried Five Guys, In-N-Out, Steak & Shake, Sonic,
>>> Fuddrucker's, Fatburger's and a few others. Fuddrucker's is my favorite
>>> and Whataburger comes in second. Whataburger is a local chain.
>>>
>>> Becca
>>
>> Some of those are "fast food" and some are "sit down", so you can't
>> really compare the two classes properly. Whataburger is fast food,
>> Fudruckers isn't, etc.
>
> Thank you. You seem to be the only other person on the planet that
> understands there's a difference.

The reason Fudrucker's was mentioned, was because it was listed in the
article. I did not feel like explaining that to him.

Becca

They have a couple of locations around here. You can clone them at home. Just put thousand Island dressing on it instead of mustard. Its a Sunny CA thing I think.
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