> wrote in message
...

> He said the correct measure is one part to four parts and boil a few
> minutes so it does not subsequently ferment in the sun. I suppose,
> for obvious reasons I should add, fill the feeder with the syrup when
> it has cooled !

If it's hot enough it still does the ferment thing even when boiled first,
which I do. After a few days in 100 plus weather it starts to smell like
rotted wine.

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...

> They have different hummingbirds along the Pacific coast. I've never seen
> an Anna's hummingbird. I see ruby-throats. I'm sure there are different
> migratory maps. You can pretty much count on them following the same
> route, year after year.
>
> Jill

Yes, where I am in CA it's the Anna's which are beautiful too, and they stay
year round.

Cheri

On 7/18/2014 11:09 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 7/17/2014 5:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-07-17 4:54 PM, Susan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One, just ONCE, I'd kill to see ONE!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On vacation, the moment I left the porch of a b and b we were in, Tom
>>>>>> saw one. I got that close.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking of making a hummingbird/butterfly garden inside a
>>>>>> barrier
>>>>>> we installed after removing an invasive bamboo grove.
>>>>>> There's also trumpet vine climbing around the back wall there, so
>>>>>> maybe...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to see hummingbirds you should plant lots of the sorts of
>>>>> flowers that attract then, especially flowers with trumpet shapes. We
>>>>> often see them around the Rose of Sharon, day lilies and sun flowers.
>>>>>
>>>> Hummingbirds have very far ranges of migration, too. Of course it
>>>> depends on which coast in the Americas you're on as to which types
>>>> of hummingbirds you can attract. The right (bright) trumpet type
>>>> flowers and bright red feeders definitely call to them. The sugar
>>>> water/nectar does *not* need to be dyed red (contrary to popular
>>>> belief). But they are attracted to bright feeders just as they are
>>>> to bright flowers.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I've actually had them come after a blouse with red flowers on it
>>> before they realized it wasn't food.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Hahaha! That's how I got a bee sting. Made the mistake of picking
>> pears wearing a large flowered muu muu.
>>
>> I once gave my bro a hummingbird feeder as a gift because I thought it
>> was pretty. I had no idea how high maintenance they are. That
>> stopped me from getting one for myself. The instructions actually
>> said not to make the nectar yourself and only to purchase it or you
>> could sicken the birds. And it had to be cleaned and disinfected so
>> frequently that I wouldn't bother. I'd be afraid that I'd forget or
>> for some reason be unable to clean it and kill the birds./
>
> I've always made my own. Has to be changed often in the heat, but other
> than that, easy.
>
> Cheri
>>
>
But it doesn't get hot where Julie lives! LOL

Jill

wrote:
>
> They are actually quite aggressive little birds, I have seen them
> terrorise other small song birds, harass the crows and the only bird
> that seemed to scare them was a grackle.

People are feeding them concentrated sugar solutions. They are all
hopped up just like taking speed. Look at those little wings all
flapping at invisible speed just like the "FLASH" in comic books
moves.

lol

On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:09:47 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 7/17/2014 5:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-07-17 4:54 PM, Susan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One, just ONCE, I'd kill to see ONE!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On vacation, the moment I left the porch of a b and b we were in, Tom
>>>>>> saw one. I got that close.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking of making a hummingbird/butterfly garden inside a barrier
>>>>>> we installed after removing an invasive bamboo grove.
>>>>>> There's also trumpet vine climbing around the back wall there, so
>>>>>> maybe...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to see hummingbirds you should plant lots of the sorts of
>>>>> flowers that attract then, especially flowers with trumpet shapes. We
>>>>> often see them around the Rose of Sharon, day lilies and sun flowers.
>>>>>
>>>> Hummingbirds have very far ranges of migration, too. Of course it
>>>> depends on which coast in the Americas you're on as to which types of
>>>> hummingbirds you can attract. The right (bright) trumpet type flowers
>>>> and bright red feeders definitely call to them. The sugar water/nectar
>>>> does *not* need to be dyed red (contrary to popular belief). But they
>>>> are attracted to bright feeders just as they are to bright flowers.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I've actually had them come after a blouse with red flowers on it before
>>> they realized it wasn't food.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Hahaha! That's how I got a bee sting. Made the mistake of picking pears
>> wearing a large flowered muu muu.
>>
>> I once gave my bro a hummingbird feeder as a gift because I thought it was
>> pretty. I had no idea how high maintenance they are. That stopped me
>> from getting one for myself. The instructions actually said not to make
>> the nectar yourself and only to purchase it or you could sicken the birds.
>> And it had to be cleaned and disinfected so frequently that I wouldn't
>> bother. I'd be afraid that I'd forget or for some reason be unable to
>> clean it and kill the birds./
>
>I've always made my own. Has to be changed often in the heat, but other than
>that, easy.


We make our own, as well. I don't even bother boiling it - just heat
until the sugar dissolves.

Ours has to be changed quite often because we get ants in the feeder.
I empty it every 3-4 days, and only use about half a cup at a time in
the feeder.

Here's a neat hummingbird video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJEA_kAqUso

I had no idea hummingbirds would ever put up with a crowd - the ones
around here guard their feeders ferociously, and any interlopers are
quickly chased off.

Doris

On 2014-07-18 1:46 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

>
> I once gave my bro a hummingbird feeder as a gift because I thought it
> was pretty. I had no idea how high maintenance they are. That stopped
> me from getting one for myself.

Just as well. The hummingbirds at your house probably would not eat it
anyway.

>The instructions actually said not to
> make the nectar yourself and only to purchase it or you could sicken the
> birds.

Purchase it? From them? I wonder why they would suggest that.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> If you want to see hummingbirds you should plant lots of the sorts of
> flowers that attract then, especially flowers with trumpet shapes. We
> often see them around the Rose of Sharon, day lilies and sun flowers.

I've seen them hanging around fushias
and honeysuckle. When I had a big
honeysuckle bush, the hummingbirds
would fight over it.

On 7/18/2014 1:59 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:09:47 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 7/17/2014 5:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2014-07-17 4:54 PM, Susan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One, just ONCE, I'd kill to see ONE!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On vacation, the moment I left the porch of a b and b we were in, Tom
>>>>>>> saw one. I got that close.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm thinking of making a hummingbird/butterfly garden inside a barrier
>>>>>>> we installed after removing an invasive bamboo grove.
>>>>>>> There's also trumpet vine climbing around the back wall there, so
>>>>>>> maybe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to see hummingbirds you should plant lots of the sorts of
>>>>>> flowers that attract then, especially flowers with trumpet shapes. We
>>>>>> often see them around the Rose of Sharon, day lilies and sun flowers.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hummingbirds have very far ranges of migration, too. Of course it
>>>>> depends on which coast in the Americas you're on as to which types of
>>>>> hummingbirds you can attract. The right (bright) trumpet type flowers
>>>>> and bright red feeders definitely call to them. The sugar water/nectar
>>>>> does *not* need to be dyed red (contrary to popular belief). But they
>>>>> are attracted to bright feeders just as they are to bright flowers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> I've actually had them come after a blouse with red flowers on it before
>>>> they realized it wasn't food.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Hahaha! That's how I got a bee sting. Made the mistake of picking pears
>>> wearing a large flowered muu muu.
>>>
>>> I once gave my bro a hummingbird feeder as a gift because I thought it was
>>> pretty. I had no idea how high maintenance they are. That stopped me
>>> from getting one for myself. The instructions actually said not to make
>>> the nectar yourself and only to purchase it or you could sicken the birds.
>>> And it had to be cleaned and disinfected so frequently that I wouldn't
>>> bother. I'd be afraid that I'd forget or for some reason be unable to
>>> clean it and kill the birds./
>>
>> I've always made my own. Has to be changed often in the heat, but other than
>> that, easy.
>
>
> We make our own, as well. I don't even bother boiling it - just heat
> until the sugar dissolves.
>
> Ours has to be changed quite often because we get ants in the feeder.

If you get a HummZinger feeder (no, I'm not affiliated with the
company), less problem with ants. It has a built-in ant moat.

> I empty it every 3-4 days, and only use about half a cup at a time in
> the feeder.
>
> Here's a neat hummingbird video:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJEA_kAqUso
>
> I had no idea hummingbirds would ever put up with a crowd - the ones
> around here guard their feeders ferociously, and any interlopers are
> quickly chased off.
>
> Doris
>
That's a neat video, thanks! I never see two hummingbirds at the feeder
at once. I do see some territorial battles, usually amongst the females.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/18/2014 11:09 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 7/17/2014 5:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2014-07-17 4:54 PM, Susan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One, just ONCE, I'd kill to see ONE!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On vacation, the moment I left the porch of a b and b we were in,
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>> saw one. I got that close.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm thinking of making a hummingbird/butterfly garden inside a
>>>>>>> barrier
>>>>>>> we installed after removing an invasive bamboo grove.
>>>>>>> There's also trumpet vine climbing around the back wall there, so
>>>>>>> maybe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to see hummingbirds you should plant lots of the sorts of
>>>>>> flowers that attract then, especially flowers with trumpet shapes.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> often see them around the Rose of Sharon, day lilies and sun flowers.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hummingbirds have very far ranges of migration, too. Of course it
>>>>> depends on which coast in the Americas you're on as to which types
>>>>> of hummingbirds you can attract. The right (bright) trumpet type
>>>>> flowers and bright red feeders definitely call to them. The sugar
>>>>> water/nectar does *not* need to be dyed red (contrary to popular
>>>>> belief). But they are attracted to bright feeders just as they are
>>>>> to bright flowers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> I've actually had them come after a blouse with red flowers on it
>>>> before they realized it wasn't food.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Hahaha! That's how I got a bee sting. Made the mistake of picking
>>> pears wearing a large flowered muu muu.
>>>
>>> I once gave my bro a hummingbird feeder as a gift because I thought it
>>> was pretty. I had no idea how high maintenance they are. That
>>> stopped me from getting one for myself. The instructions actually
>>> said not to make the nectar yourself and only to purchase it or you
>>> could sicken the birds. And it had to be cleaned and disinfected so
>>> frequently that I wouldn't bother. I'd be afraid that I'd forget or
>>> for some reason be unable to clean it and kill the birds./
>>
>> I've always made my own. Has to be changed often in the heat, but other
>> than that, easy.
>>
>> Cheri
>>>
>>
> But it doesn't get hot where Julie lives! LOL
>
> Jill

Oh God Jill, don't go there. LOL

Cheri

"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> If you want to see hummingbirds you should plant lots of the sorts of
>> flowers that attract then, especially flowers with trumpet shapes. We
>> often see them around the Rose of Sharon, day lilies and sun flowers.
>
> I've seen them hanging around fushias
> and honeysuckle. When I had a big
> honeysuckle bush, the hummingbirds
> would fight over it.

They love bottlebrush too.

Cheri

In article >,
jmcquown > wrote:

> On 7/18/2014 1:59 PM, Doris Night wrote:
<big snip>
> >
> > Here's a neat hummingbird video:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJEA_kAqUso
> >
> > I had no idea hummingbirds would ever put up with a crowd - the ones
> > around here guard their feeders ferociously, and any interlopers are
> > quickly chased off.
> >
> > Doris
> >
> That's a neat video, thanks! I never see two hummingbirds at the feeder
> at once. I do see some territorial battles, usually amongst the females.
>
> Jill

Wow! Never seen a swarm of hummers like that! Once we were up in Ponca
Arkansas, fixing to paddle the Buffalo river. There was a Mimosa tree
(vile invasive tree) in full bloom (lovely pink blooms ... I call them
Doris Day trees cause they remind me of Doris Day / Rock Hudson movies)
and it was covered with hummers. Up to that time i, like Jill, seldom
saw more than one bird at a time at my porch feeder. Then it occurred to
me that if you have enough of a crowd it would be rather unproductive
for a single bird to try to chase off the competition.

My porch is not large ... about 8 x 10 foot. One feeder up and there are
constant battles. One bird claims the feeder and fights off newcomers.
If I hang 4 feeders (spaced about 3 foot apart) I get lots of birds at a
time and see very few fights.

Never see as many birds as those folks in the video get, though.

Regards,
Dave W.
In the Ozarks

"Dave W" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> On 7/18/2014 1:59 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> <big snip>
>> >
>> > Here's a neat hummingbird video:
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJEA_kAqUso
>> >
>> > I had no idea hummingbirds would ever put up with a crowd - the ones
>> > around here guard their feeders ferociously, and any interlopers are
>> > quickly chased off.
>> >
>> > Doris
>> >
>> That's a neat video, thanks! I never see two hummingbirds at the feeder
>> at once. I do see some territorial battles, usually amongst the females.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Wow! Never seen a swarm of hummers like that! Once we were up in Ponca
> Arkansas, fixing to paddle the Buffalo river. There was a Mimosa tree
> (vile invasive tree) in full bloom (lovely pink blooms ... I call them
> Doris Day trees cause they remind me of Doris Day / Rock Hudson movies)
> and it was covered with hummers. Up to that time i, like Jill, seldom
> saw more than one bird at a time at my porch feeder. Then it occurred to
> me that if you have enough of a crowd it would be rather unproductive
> for a single bird to try to chase off the competition.
>
> My porch is not large ... about 8 x 10 foot. One feeder up and there are
> constant battles. One bird claims the feeder and fights off newcomers.
> If I hang 4 feeders (spaced about 3 foot apart) I get lots of birds at a
> time and see very few fights.
>
> Never see as many birds as those folks in the video get, though.
>
> Regards,
> Dave W.
> In the Ozarks

If you travel and are interested.

http://www.hummingbirds.net/havens.html

In article >,
"Cheri" > wrote:
>
> If you travel and are interested.
>
> http://www.hummingbirds.net/havens.html

We do travel and are interested .... thanks.

Dave W.

On 7/20/2014 1:33 AM, Dave W wrote:
> My porch is not large ... about 8 x 10 foot. One feeder up and there are
> constant battles. One bird claims the feeder and fights off newcomers.
> If I hang 4 feeders (spaced about 3 foot apart) I get lots of birds at a
> time and see very few fights.
>
> Never see as many birds as those folks in the video get, though.
>
> Regards,
> Dave W.
> In the Ozarks

I'm guessing you have a covered porch? If I had a porch like that I'd
definitely hang multiple feeders. My hummingbird feeder hangs from a
long chain suspended from a hook under the eaves by the den. Sure, I
could put up more hooks, chains and feeders. But it's sort of a PITA
PITA to get to the one I have. It requires maneuvering around azaela
bushes (in very soft, sandy, often wet soil) to empty and refill it
every week. It would be nice to just step out on a covered porch...

Jill

In article >,
jmcquown > wrote:

> On 7/20/2014 1:33 AM, Dave W wrote:
> > My porch is not large ... about 8 x 10 foot. One feeder up and there are
> > constant battles. One bird claims the feeder and fights off newcomers.
> > If I hang 4 feeders (spaced about 3 foot apart) I get lots of birds at a
> > time and see very few fights.
> >
> > Never see as many birds as those folks in the video get, though.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave W.
> > In the Ozarks
>
> I'm guessing you have a covered porch? If I had a porch like that I'd
> definitely hang multiple feeders. My hummingbird feeder hangs from a
> long chain suspended from a hook under the eaves by the den. Sure, I
> could put up more hooks, chains and feeders. But it's sort of a PITA
> PITA to get to the one I have. It requires maneuvering around azaela
> bushes (in very soft, sandy, often wet soil) to empty and refill it
> every week. It would be nice to just step out on a covered porch...
>
> Jill

Yep, Jill. It is covered. So I don't need to go out in the weather to
hang the feeders. Used to have a couple out 10 to 20 feet off the porch
but it was too often a pain to get out to them in weather and I'm
getting old ... so though the chains are still hanging out there off
tree branches, I don't mess with them anymore.

BTW, not to change the subject, but i'd like to mention that winter
before last when the Audubon Society did their annual Christmas bird
count a single red-throated hummer was counted ... and well documented.
Apparently the lazy bird decided to forgo the trip south. (I don't blame
him. I don't enjoy flying much anymore either.)

I presume he survived the Winter. A sign of global warming? ;-)

Regards,
Dave W.
Fayetteville, Ar.