I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought a 10 pound
bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off soon because
actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.

The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan type
pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway into my
bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and says it is quite
cool in there.

We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may not be
happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with the swamp
cooler.

You people here may or may not like the fact that I bought one. But I
really do not care. You do what you need to do for your area. I will do
what I need to do for mine. And for now it is this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So... No Algae, no odor. Just nice, fresh cool air. Dewy skim and
lustrous hair. Oh! And the cat's fur is all soft again. Jazzy's was
getting especially straw-like from our dry air.

It's all over now people. Go back to your cooking. Please!

On Saturday, July 12, 2014 4:57:20 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
>
> fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought a 10 pound
>
> bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off soon because
>
> actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>
>
>
> The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan type
>
> pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway into my
>
> bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and says it is quite
>
> cool in there.
>
>
>
> We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may not be
>
> happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with the swamp
>
> cooler.
>
>
>
> You people here may or may not like the fact that I bought one. But I
>
> really do not care. You do what you need to do for your area. I will do
>
> what I need to do for mine. And for now it is this:
>
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
>
>
> And this:
>
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
>
>
> So... No Algae, no odor. Just nice, fresh cool air. Dewy skim and
>
> lustrous hair. Oh! And the cat's fur is all soft again. Jazzy's was
>
> getting especially straw-like from our dry air.
>
>
>
> It's all over now people. Go back to your cooking. Please!

You're a tiresome ****, but I've been meaning to weigh in on this Swamp Cooler issue. I lived in Southern California for a lot of my life. We had no Central AC. Just a window unit in the Family Room. But we had a swamp cooler and it was really effective. I think it's one of those things that only make sense in extremely humidity-free environments. It was routinely over 100 in Ontario, CA, and the swamp cooler made it very bearable.

On 7/12/2014 5:42 AM, wrote:
> On Saturday, July 12, 2014 4:57:20 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
>>
>> fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought a 10 pound
>>
>> bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off soon because
>>
>> actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>>
>>
>>
>> The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan type
>>
>> pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway into my
>>
>> bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and says it is quite
>>
>> cool in there.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may not be
>>
>> happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with the swamp
>>
>> cooler.
>>
>>
>>
>> You people here may or may not like the fact that I bought one. But I
>>
>> really do not care. You do what you need to do for your area. I will do
>>
>> what I need to do for mine. And for now it is this:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>>
>>
>> And this:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>>
>>
>> So... No Algae, no odor. Just nice, fresh cool air. Dewy skim and
>>
>> lustrous hair. Oh! And the cat's fur is all soft again. Jazzy's was
>>
>> getting especially straw-like from our dry air.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's all over now people. Go back to your cooking. Please!

Thanks Julie! You brought back some good memories. I grew up in SoCal;
our cousins lived in Palmdale, and we inherited a swamp cooler from
them. It worked pretty well, although I recall my parents had a separate
window A/C unit in the master bedroom, which was at the other end of the
house.

Anyway, the swamp cooler did the job well enough. Of course, nowadays
you would have to worry about Legionnaire's disease, but back then that
was not an issue. I imagine that nowadays you can get additives for the
water to minimize this threat.

"Travis McGee" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/12/2014 5:42 AM, wrote:
>> On Saturday, July 12, 2014 4:57:20 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
>>>
>>> fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought a 10
>>> pound
>>>
>>> bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off soon because
>>>
>>> actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan type
>>>
>>> pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway into my
>>>
>>> bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and says it is
>>> quite
>>>
>>> cool in there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may
>>> not be
>>>
>>> happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with the swamp
>>>
>>> cooler.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You people here may or may not like the fact that I bought one. But I
>>>
>>> really do not care. You do what you need to do for your area. I will
>>> do
>>>
>>> what I need to do for mine. And for now it is this:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And this:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So... No Algae, no odor. Just nice, fresh cool air. Dewy skim and
>>>
>>> lustrous hair. Oh! And the cat's fur is all soft again. Jazzy's was
>>>
>>> getting especially straw-like from our dry air.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's all over now people. Go back to your cooking. Please!
>
> Thanks Julie! You brought back some good memories. I grew up in SoCal; our
> cousins lived in Palmdale, and we inherited a swamp cooler from them. It
> worked pretty well, although I recall my parents had a separate window A/C
> unit in the master bedroom, which was at the other end of the house.
>
> Anyway, the swamp cooler did the job well enough. Of course, nowadays you
> would have to worry about Legionnaire's disease, but back then that was
> not an issue. I imagine that nowadays you can get additives for the water
> to minimize this threat.

Yes, I put in the additives.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
>fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought a 10
>pound bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off soon
>because actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>
> The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan type
> pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway into my
> bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and says it is
> quite cool in there.
>
> We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may not
> be happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with the swamp
> cooler.
>
> You people here may or may not like the fact that I bought one. But I
> really do not care. You do what you need to do for your area. I will do
> what I need to do for mine. And for now it is this:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> And this:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> So... No Algae, no odor. Just nice, fresh cool air. Dewy skim and
> lustrous hair. Oh! And the cat's fur is all soft again. Jazzy's was
> getting especially straw-like from our dry air.
>
> It's all over now people. Go back to your cooking. Please!

Cool.

I do recall a day when Seattle was cool in the summer. Back in the early
80s an average summer day was around 75. A heatwave was declared at 80.



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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
>>fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought a 10
>>pound bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off soon
>>because actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>>
>> The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan type
>> pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway into my
>> bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and says it is
>> quite cool in there.
>>
>> We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may not
>> be happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with the swamp
>> cooler.
>>
>> You people here may or may not like the fact that I bought one. But I
>> really do not care. You do what you need to do for your area. I will do
>> what I need to do for mine. And for now it is this:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>> And this:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>> So... No Algae, no odor. Just nice, fresh cool air. Dewy skim and
>> lustrous hair. Oh! And the cat's fur is all soft again. Jazzy's was
>> getting especially straw-like from our dry air.
>>
>> It's all over now people. Go back to your cooking. Please!
>
> Cool.
>
> I do recall a day when Seattle was cool in the summer. Back in the early
> 80s an average summer day was around 75. A heatwave was declared at 80.

Exactly. Actually I think our average is lower than that. Closer to 70.
When it hits 80, people freak. 82? They think they're dying.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Exactly. Actually I think our average is lower than that. Closer to 70.
> When it hits 80, people freak. 82? They think they're dying.

You babies.

On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:20:40 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > Exactly. Actually I think our average is lower than that. Closer to 70.
> > When it hits 80, people freak. 82? They think they're dying.
>
> You babies.

How are you doing with your heat?

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

sf wrote:
>
> On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:20:40 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> > > Exactly. Actually I think our average is lower than that. Closer to 70.
> > > When it hits 80, people freak. 82? They think they're dying.
> >
> > You babies.
>
> How are you doing with your heat?

Not well at all lately. It's been around 90 and above often here.
Several days last week the heat index has been over 100F. I'd take a
high of 82F any day and be very happy with it. That's a cool summer
day here.

Often in the summer, I leave for work at 6am and it's almost 80F and
humidity in the 90s and dead calm winds. I'll start sweating just
walking 100 feet from my front door to my van. And if I'm working
outside, using ladders all day, in the sun, I come home in soaking wet
clothes. Same thing working inside on a new house with no AC. July
is bad here and August is the worst time for heat and humidity.

You better believe I turn on my AC first thing when I get home in the
afternoon. I can work in the heat and humidity but I won't even try
to sleep in it.

G.

On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:50:09 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:20:40 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> > > Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Exactly. Actually I think our average is lower than that. Closer to 70.
> > > > When it hits 80, people freak. 82? They think they're dying.
> > >
> > > You babies.
> >
> > How are you doing with your heat?
>
> Not well at all lately. It's been around 90 and above often here.
> Several days last week the heat index has been over 100F. I'd take a
> high of 82F any day and be very happy with it. That's a cool summer
> day here.
>
> Often in the summer, I leave for work at 6am and it's almost 80F and
> humidity in the 90s and dead calm winds. I'll start sweating just
> walking 100 feet from my front door to my van. And if I'm working
> outside, using ladders all day, in the sun, I come home in soaking wet
> clothes. Same thing working inside on a new house with no AC. July
> is bad here and August is the worst time for heat and humidity.
>
> You better believe I turn on my AC first thing when I get home in the
> afternoon. I can work in the heat and humidity but I won't even try
> to sleep in it.
>

Glad to hear the +100 part is over for the time being! I know it's
pretty miserable when you have to deal with heat +humidity and no AC.


--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in
:

> I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works
> just fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought
> a 10 pound bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off
> soon because actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>
> The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan
> type pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway
> into my bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and
> says it is quite cool in there.
>
> We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may
> not be happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with
> the swamp cooler.
>
> You people here may or may not like the fact that I bought one. But I
> really do not care. You do what you need to do for your area. I will
> do what I need to do for mine. And for now it is this:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...s_o02_s00_i00?
> ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> And this:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...s_o03_s00_i00?
> ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> So... No Algae, no odor. Just nice, fresh cool air. Dewy skim and
> lustrous hair. Oh! And the cat's fur is all soft again. Jazzy's was
> getting especially straw-like from our dry air.
>
> It's all over now people. Go back to your cooking. Please!
>
>

I've been using one every summer for some 30 years. Even during our
desert summer high humidity monsoon season. A few problems with internal
water distribution because my very hard well water often clogs the small
lines to the pads. Nice that I can usually repair it rather than call for
expensive service like an A/C. Requires cleaning and prepping every
spring - change pads, etc.

Ice cubes? Never heard of this. Are we talking about the same thing?
Swamp/evaporative cooler? About the size of an A/C, Mounts in the window
or over a hole in the roof?



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as highly as antique furniture!" Anon

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water.
> > > Works just fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even
> > > more. I bought a 10 pound bag and used about half of it. I will
> > > have to turn it off soon because actually the room is getting a
> > > bit chilly for me now.
> > >
> > > The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a
> > > fan type pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but
> > > partway into my bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the
> > > bedroom now and says it is quite cool in there.
> > >
> > > We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or
> > > may not be happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to
> > > do with the swamp cooler.
> > >
> > > You people here may or may not like the fact that I bought one.
> > > But I really do not care. You do what you need to do for your
> > > area. I will do what I need to do for mine. And for now it is
> > > this:
> > >
> > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...etails_o02_s00
> > > _i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
> > >
> > > And this:
> > >
> > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...etails_o03_s00
> > > _i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
> > >
> > > So... No Algae, no odor. Just nice, fresh cool air. Dewy skim
> > > and lustrous hair. Oh! And the cat's fur is all soft again.
> > > Jazzy's was getting especially straw-like from our dry air.
> > >
> > > It's all over now people. Go back to your cooking. Please!
> >
> > Cool.
> >
> > I do recall a day when Seattle was cool in the summer. Back in the
> > early 80s an average summer day was around 75. A heatwave was
> > declared at 80.
>
> Exactly. Actually I think our average is lower than that. Closer to
> 70. When it hits 80, people freak. 82? They think they're dying.

LOL but I understand. What is 'too hot' and what is 'too cold' are
relative to your acclimation to the temperatures.

People in Hawaii pull out sweaters and coats if it hits 65F. Coming
back from a summer in Bahrain, I was using a thick furry bathrobe and 2
sets of socks at 80F.

At your area, you are looking for 5-10F reduction. A swamp cooler is
not optimal in operation for your area but will do that much at a
lesser price. In Las Vegas and Death Valley they will reduce temps by
25F.

--

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
> fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought a 10 pound
> bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off soon because
> actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>
> The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan type
> pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway into my
> bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and says it is quite
> cool in there.
>
> We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may not be
> happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with the swamp
> cooler.

maybe it would have to do with being home with you


>
> You people here may or may not like the fact that I bought one. But I
> really do not care. You do what you need to do for your area. I will do
> what I need to do for mine. And for now it is this:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...00_i00?ie=UTF8
> &psc=1
>
> And this:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...00_i00?ie=UTF8
> &psc=1
>
> So... No Algae, no odor. Just nice, fresh cool air. Dewy skim and
> lustrous hair. Oh! And the cat's fur is all soft again. Jazzy's was
> getting especially straw-like from our dry air.
>
> It's all over now people. Go back to your cooking. Please!

it won't be too long before you start complaining about how your food
molds up too fast and/or that you and/or Angela start developing strange
symptoms that will develop from inhaling the new chemicals you've so
thoughtfully added to your environment

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> >"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > > I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water.
>> > > Works just fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even
>> > > more. I bought a 10 pound bag and used about half of it. I will
>> > > have to turn it off soon because actually the room is getting a
>> > > bit chilly for me now.
>> > >
>> > > The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a
>> > > fan type pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but
>> > > partway into my bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the
>> > > bedroom now and says it is quite cool in there.
>> > >
>> > > We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or
>> > > may not be happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to
>> > > do with the swamp cooler.
>> > >
>> > > You people here may or may not like the fact that I bought one.
>> > > But I really do not care. You do what you need to do for your
>> > > area. I will do what I need to do for mine. And for now it is
>> > > this:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...etails_o02_s00
>> > > _i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>> > >
>> > > And this:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...etails_o03_s00
>> > > _i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>> > >
>> > > So... No Algae, no odor. Just nice, fresh cool air. Dewy skim
>> > > and lustrous hair. Oh! And the cat's fur is all soft again.
>> > > Jazzy's was getting especially straw-like from our dry air.
>> > >
>> > > It's all over now people. Go back to your cooking. Please!
>> >
>> > Cool.
>> >
>> > I do recall a day when Seattle was cool in the summer. Back in the
>> > early 80s an average summer day was around 75. A heatwave was
>> > declared at 80.
>>
>> Exactly. Actually I think our average is lower than that. Closer to
>> 70. When it hits 80, people freak. 82? They think they're dying.
>
> LOL but I understand. What is 'too hot' and what is 'too cold' are
> relative to your acclimation to the temperatures.
>
> People in Hawaii pull out sweaters and coats if it hits 65F. Coming
> back from a summer in Bahrain, I was using a thick furry bathrobe and 2
> sets of socks at 80F.
>
> At your area, you are looking for 5-10F reduction. A swamp cooler is
> not optimal in operation for your area but will do that much at a
> lesser price. In Las Vegas and Death Valley they will reduce temps by
> 25F.

Well it got chilly enough in here that Angela begged me to turn it off.

On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:50:09 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>sf wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 09:20:40 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Exactly. Actually I think our average is lower than that. Closer to 70.
>> > > When it hits 80, people freak. 82? They think they're dying.
>> >
>> > You babies.
>>
>> How are you doing with your heat?
>
>Not well at all lately. It's been around 90 and above often here.
>Several days last week the heat index has been over 100F. I'd take a
>high of 82F any day and be very happy with it. That's a cool summer
>day here.
>
>Often in the summer, I leave for work at 6am and it's almost 80F and
>humidity in the 90s and dead calm winds. I'll start sweating just
>walking 100 feet from my front door to my van. And if I'm working
>outside, using ladders all day, in the sun, I come home in soaking wet
>clothes. Same thing working inside on a new house with no AC. July
>is bad here and August is the worst time for heat and humidity.
>
>You better believe I turn on my AC first thing when I get home in the
>afternoon. I can work in the heat and humidity but I won't even try
>to sleep in it.

You need a set back thermostat, it costs more to shut off your ac
during the day than to let it run at a higher temperature.. cost less
to have it run at say 78º during the day than to bring it from 90º
down to 72º when you come home. My A/C thermostat is set at 70º all
summer... costs the least to leave it set to one temperature 24/7.

On 7/12/2014 1:23 PM, cshenk wrote:
> LOL but I understand. What is 'too hot' and what is 'too cold' are
> relative to your acclimation to the temperatures.
>
> People in Hawaii pull out sweaters and coats if it hits 65F. Coming
> back from a summer in Bahrain, I was using a thick furry bathrobe and 2
> sets of socks at 80F.

LOL I used to chuckle at the Thais and Chinese people in Bangkok in the
"winter" - about 70F - walking around all bundled up. I thought it was
heaven! I was walking around in shorts, glory glory! Then again, when
the temps hovered between 90-100F with extreme humidity the rest of the
year, I'd get sick (literally) unless I was able to cool down. Dad
quickly figured out we needed AC; he had window-units installed (at his
expense, I think) in the bedrooms in the rental house. That required
some rewiring.

If I occasionally lucked out and got to ride home in a school bus with
AC (my brothers went to a different school) I was fine. An air
conditioned bus was always a crap shoot. So Mom would turn on the AC's
on in the bedrooms before we got home, just in case. If the bus wasn't
air conditioned, by the time I got home I was dizzy and faint. I'd have
to go straight to my room to lie down for a few minutes.

Jill

On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 01:57:20 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
>fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more.

That's saving money, for sure...

> I bought a 10 pound
>bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off soon because
>actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>
>The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan type
>pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway into my
>bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and says it is quite
>cool in there.
>
>We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may not be
>happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with the swamp
>cooler.

If he's not home - my bet is he's extremely happy.

>You people here may or may not like the fact that I bought one. But I
>really do not care. You do what you need to do for your area. I will do
>what I need to do for mine. And for now it is this:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
>And this:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
>So... No Algae, no odor.

You expect algae and odors to be evident immediately?

> Just nice, fresh cool air. Dewy skim and
>lustrous hair. Oh! And the cat's fur is all soft again. Jazzy's was
>getting especially straw-like from our dry air.
>
>It's all over now people. Go back to your cooking. Please!

Can't we combine this with the mailboxes somehow?
Aww...

On 7/12/2014 6:56 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 01:57:20 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
>> fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more.
>> The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan type
>> pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway into my
>> bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and says it is quite
>> cool in there.
>>
>> We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may not be
>> happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with the swamp
>> cooler.
>
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>> So... No Algae, no odor.
>
> You expect algae and odors to be evident immediately?
>
I don't know what she anticipates. It takes about a week to manifest
itself even if she keeps dumping that chemical stuff into it.
Evaporative coolers (or humidifiers, same principle, opposite result,
one of which I did have 30 years ago) need to be cleaned out regularly
and refilled with fresh water. Apparently these days they also
recommend anti-algae/mold solution. <shrug>

> Can't we combine this with the mailboxes somehow?
>
Heavens no! Mailboxes are *so* passé.

Jill

On 7/12/2014 4:57 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
> fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought a 10
> pound bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off soon
> because actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>
(snippage)

> We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may
> not be happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with the
> swamp cooler.
>
I don't think you've *ever* portrayed your husband as a happy guy.
That's pretty sad, really.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/12/2014 6:56 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 01:57:20 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
>>> fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more.
>>> The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan type
>>> pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway into my
>>> bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and says it is
>>> quite
>>> cool in there.
>>>
>>> We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may
>>> not be
>>> happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with the swamp
>>> cooler.
>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>>
>>> So... No Algae, no odor.
>>
>> You expect algae and odors to be evident immediately?
>>
> I don't know what she anticipates. It takes about a week to manifest
> itself even if she keeps dumping that chemical stuff into it. Evaporative
> coolers (or humidifiers, same principle, opposite result, one of which I
> did have 30 years ago) need to be cleaned out regularly and refilled with
> fresh water. Apparently these days they also recommend anti-algae/mold
> solution. <shrug>
>
>> Can't we combine this with the mailboxes somehow?
>>
> Heavens no! Mailboxes are *so* passé.

The unit needs to be cleaned weekly. There are instructions. I've had cat
fountains too. I cleaned those too.

On Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:00:31 AM UTC-7, KenK wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>
> :
>
>
>
> > I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works
> > just fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought
> > a 10 pound bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off
> > soon because actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>
> > The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan
> > type pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway
> > into my bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and
> > says it is quite cool in there.
>

>
> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...s_o02_s00_i00?
> > ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> > And this:
>
> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...s_o03_s00_i00?
> > ie=UTF8&psc=1
>

>
> I've been using one every summer for some 30 years. Even during our
> desert summer high humidity monsoon season. A few problems with internal
> water distribution because my very hard well water often clogs the small
> lines to the pads. Nice that I can usually repair it rather than call for
> expensive service like an A/C. Requires cleaning and prepping every
> spring - change pads, etc.
>
> Ice cubes? Never heard of this. Are we talking about the same thing?
> Swamp/evaporative cooler? About the size of an A/C, Mounts in the window
> or over a hole in the roof?
>

If you click on her link, you'll see it's a portable unit for inside the
house.

The comments there are interesting. Need to open the windows to work
best. And many people add icecubes instead of just water. A four-gallon
fillup will last about 18 hours. Works against AC, which removes
humidity and works best with the windows closed.

> wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:00:31 AM UTC-7, KenK wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>>
>> :
>>
>>
>>
>> > I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works
>> > just fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought
>> > a 10 pound bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off
>> > soon because actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>>
>> > The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan
>> > type pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway
>> > into my bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and
>> > says it is quite cool in there.
>>
>
>>
>> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...s_o02_s00_i00?
>> > ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>> > And this:
>>
>> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...s_o03_s00_i00?
>> > ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>
>>
>> I've been using one every summer for some 30 years. Even during our
>> desert summer high humidity monsoon season. A few problems with internal
>> water distribution because my very hard well water often clogs the small
>> lines to the pads. Nice that I can usually repair it rather than call for
>> expensive service like an A/C. Requires cleaning and prepping every
>> spring - change pads, etc.
>>
>> Ice cubes? Never heard of this. Are we talking about the same thing?
>> Swamp/evaporative cooler? About the size of an A/C, Mounts in the window
>> or over a hole in the roof?
>>
>
> If you click on her link, you'll see it's a portable unit for inside the
> house.
>
> The comments there are interesting. Need to open the windows to work
> best. And many people add icecubes instead of just water. A four-gallon
> fillup will last about 18 hours. Works against AC, which removes
> humidity and works best with the windows closed.

I added a mix of about half ice and half water.

This map shows where evaporative coolers work best. And my area is among
where they work the best.

http://www.lumacomfort.com/blog/does...e-cooler-work/

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I added a mix of about half ice and half water.

That explains why it's cooling so well. How often do you add more ice?

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I added a mix of about half ice and half water.
>
> That explains why it's cooling so well. How often do you add more ice?

I've only put ice in twice. Although someone here said a fill would last
for 18 hours or something like that, I am getting more like 8 hours. It
hasn't actually run dry yet though. I will put more water in it shortly
before I go to sleep. You are not supposed to put just ice but a mix of ice
and water. And you don't have to do the ice. It will just make it cooler
still.

wrote:

> On Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:00:31 AM UTC-7, KenK wrote:
>
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in
>
> >
>
> > :
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works
>
> > > just fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought
>
> > > a 10 pound bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off
>
> > > soon because actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>
> >
>
> > > The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan
>
> > > type pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway
>
> > > into my bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and
>
> > > says it is quite cool in there.
>
> >
>
>
>
> >
>
> > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...s_o02_s00_i00?
>
> > > ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> >
>
> > > And this:
>
> >
>
> > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...s_o03_s00_i00?
>
> > > ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> >
>
>
>
> >
>
> > I've been using one every summer for some 30 years. Even during our
>
> > desert summer high humidity monsoon season. A few problems with internal
>
> > water distribution because my very hard well water often clogs the small
>
> > lines to the pads. Nice that I can usually repair it rather than call for
>
> > expensive service like an A/C. Requires cleaning and prepping every
>
> > spring - change pads, etc.
>
> >
>
> > Ice cubes? Never heard of this. Are we talking about the same thing?
>
> > Swamp/evaporative cooler? About the size of an A/C, Mounts in the window
>
> > or over a hole in the roof?
>
> >
>
>
>
> If you click on her link, you'll see it's a portable unit for inside the
>
> house.
>
>
>
> The comments there are interesting. Need to open the windows to work
>
> best. And many people add icecubes instead of just water. A four-gallon
>
> fillup will last about 18 hours. Works against AC, which removes
>
> humidity and works best with the windows closed.


Swamp coolers were made for cars, too...they were gradually displaced by automotive A/C units.


--
Best
Greg

On Saturday, July 12, 2014 3:57:20 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
>
> fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought a 10 pound
>
> bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off soon because
>
> actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>
>
>
> The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan type
>
> pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway into my
>
> bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and says it is quite
>
> cool in there.
>
>
>
> We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may not be
>
> happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with the swamp
>
> cooler.
>
>
>
> You people here may or may not like the fact that I bought one. But I
>
> really do not care. You do what you need to do for your area. I will do
>
> what I need to do for mine. And for now it is this:
>
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
>
>
> And this:
>
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
>
>
> So... No Algae, no odor. Just nice, fresh cool air. Dewy skim and
>
> lustrous hair. Oh! And the cat's fur is all soft again. Jazzy's was
>
> getting especially straw-like from our dry air.
>
>
>
> It's all over now people. Go back to your cooking. Please!

I do not know where you live Julie, but when I lived in NM we had a swamp cooler and it was great. When there was some humidity, what was not often , it of course did not work as well, but the rest of the time it was fine and dandy and we had hot summers!

"rosie" > wrote in message
...
On Saturday, July 12, 2014 3:57:20 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
>
> fine. But with a little added ice, it cools even more. I bought a 10
> pound
>
> bag and used about half of it. I will have to turn it off soon because
>
> actually the room is getting a bit chilly for me now.
>
>
>
> The unit has several different options so I have it aimed in a fan type
>
> pattern so that it is reaching not just this room but partway into my
>
> bedroom and the bathroom. Angela is in the bedroom now and says it is
> quite
>
> cool in there.
>
>
>
> We are all happy. Even the cats. Husband isn't home. He may or may not
> be
>
> happy but trust me on this, it would have nothing to do with the swamp
>
> cooler.
>
>
>
> You people here may or may not like the fact that I bought one. But I
>
> really do not care. You do what you need to do for your area. I will do
>
> what I need to do for mine. And for now it is this:
>
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
>
>
> And this:
>
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
>
>
> So... No Algae, no odor. Just nice, fresh cool air. Dewy skim and
>
> lustrous hair. Oh! And the cat's fur is all soft again. Jazzy's was
>
> getting especially straw-like from our dry air.
>
>
>
> It's all over now people. Go back to your cooking. Please!

I do not know where you live Julie, but when I lived in NM we had a swamp
cooler and it was great. When there was some humidity, what was not often ,
it of course did not work as well, but the rest of the time it was fine
and dandy and we had hot summers!

---

I'm in Washinton State. When it is cool here we normally have high
humidity. But as the temperature rises, the humidity falls. It's probably
not as dry here as it is there but it can get uncomfortable.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/13/2014 12:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> The unit needs to be cleaned weekly. There are instructions. I've had
>> cat fountains too. I cleaned those too.
>
> I had a cat fountain for years. When Persia was young she used to drink
> out of the bathroom faucet when I was brushing my teeth. I didn't want to
> spit toothpaste on her head. A fountain with running water seemed like a
> good idea, and yes, she loved it.
>
> A couple of years ago I finally got sick of taking it apart every week and
> cleaning it. All those nooks a crannies! Not good unless you're talking
> about an English muffin! The filters weren't cheap, either. Besides,
> she was no longer fascinated by running water. So I bought a deep ceramic
> pet-food bowl which serves as her water dish. She's perfectly content
> with it.

They are a PITA. I had to get rid of ours because Jetta has a plastic
allergy. Even the metal and ceramic ones have plastic parts in them.
Plastic gives her an itchy chin which I have been told would progress to
pimples but I nipped it in the bud by taking away the fountain and replacing
all of their dishes.

The cats did love the fountain though. When we had Bali, she would go just
short of a nervous breakdown whenever I had to clean the fountain. She
loved it that much!

On 7/14/2014 6:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/13/2014 12:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> The unit needs to be cleaned weekly. There are instructions. I've had
>>> cat fountains too. I cleaned those too.
>>
>> I had a cat fountain for years. When Persia was young she used to
>> drink out of the bathroom faucet when I was brushing my teeth. I
>> didn't want to spit toothpaste on her head. A fountain with running
>> water seemed like a good idea, and yes, she loved it.
>>
>> A couple of years ago I finally got sick of taking it apart every week
>> and cleaning it. All those nooks a crannies! Not good unless you're
>> talking about an English muffin! The filters weren't cheap,
>> either. Besides, she was no longer fascinated by running water. So I
>> bought a deep ceramic pet-food bowl which serves as her water dish.
>> She's perfectly content with it.
>
> They are a PITA. I had to get rid of ours because Jetta has a plastic
> allergy. Even the metal and ceramic ones have plastic parts in them.
> Plastic gives her an itchy chin which I have been told would progress to
> pimples but I nipped it in the bud by taking away the fountain and
> replacing all of their dishes.
>
Yes, plastic can give cats chin acne. I guess it never affected Persia
because she was always drinking from the clean recycled running water,
rather than having to put her face down where it could touch the basin.

> The cats did love the fountain though. When we had Bali, she would go
> just short of a nervous breakdown whenever I had to clean the fountain.
> She loved it that much!

Persia loved it for a few years but it was no big deal when took it away
and replaced it with a deep ceramic pet food bowl.

Jill

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just

Sure, the choice between tap water and
deionized or distilled water is a long-term
maintenance issue. Not something you'd
notice on the first day.

"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
>
> Sure, the choice between tap water and
> deionized or distilled water is a long-term
> maintenance issue. Not something you'd
> notice on the first day.

It says to use tap water and nothing else. My friend even cautioned me not
to use the additive. She's in Maylasia and has been using one for years
with no problems. Our water is very soft here.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I got the swamp cooler. It does work with plain tap water. Works just
>>
>> Sure, the choice between tap water and
>> deionized or distilled water is a long-term
>> maintenance issue. Not something you'd
>> notice on the first day.
>
> It says to use tap water and nothing else. My friend even cautioned me
> not to use the additive. She's in Maylasia and has been using one for
> years with no problems. Our water is very soft here.

That makes sense. With very soft water you don't get the furring up usual
with hard water.


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 7/14/2014 6:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> They are a PITA. I had to get rid of ours because Jetta has a plastic
> allergy. Even the metal and ceramic ones have plastic parts in them.
> Plastic gives her an itchy chin which I have been told would progress to
> pimples but I nipped it in the bud by taking away the fountain and
> replacing all of their dishes.

It's not an allergy, and this is very common when using plastic dishes
for pets. They don't clean up completely and bacteria get in the porous
material causing the face rash.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

On 7/16/2014 8:58 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/14/2014 6:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> They are a PITA. I had to get rid of ours because Jetta has a plastic
>> allergy. Even the metal and ceramic ones have plastic parts in them.
>> Plastic gives her an itchy chin which I have been told would progress to
>> pimples but I nipped it in the bud by taking away the fountain and
>> replacing all of their dishes.
>
> It's not an allergy, and this is very common when using plastic dishes
> for pets. They don't clean up completely and bacteria get in the porous
> material causing the face rash.
>
Pourous plastic can cause feline acne; you're right, Cheryl, it's not an
allergy. It's why plastic bowls are not recommended.

The pet fountain I had was very, very hard plastic. Not porous. I
figured she wasn't getting chin acne because her chin never touched the
plastic edge of the basin. She didn't drink from the basin, she lapped
up the water as it ran from the spout (she didn't touch that, either).
But now that you mention it, I think it's also because the plastic was
very dense.

Jill

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 7/14/2014 6:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> They are a PITA. I had to get rid of ours because Jetta has a plastic
>> allergy. Even the metal and ceramic ones have plastic parts in them.
>> Plastic gives her an itchy chin which I have been told would progress to
>> pimples but I nipped it in the bud by taking away the fountain and
>> replacing all of their dishes.
>
> It's not an allergy, and this is very common when using plastic dishes for
> pets. They don't clean up completely and bacteria get in the porous
> material causing the face rash.

That is what I read but I fed her in brand new dishes and she was still
scratching at her chin. The lady I got her from freaked and told me not to
use plastic. Now she has only ceramic, metal or some old Corelle. No
problems.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> b.com...
> > On 7/14/2014 6:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> They are a PITA. I had to get rid of ours because Jetta has a plastic
> >> allergy. Even the metal and ceramic ones have plastic parts in them.
> >> Plastic gives her an itchy chin which I have been told would progress to
> >> pimples but I nipped it in the bud by taking away the fountain and
> >> replacing all of their dishes.
> >
> > It's not an allergy, and this is very common when using plastic dishes for
> > pets. They don't clean up completely and bacteria get in the porous
> > material causing the face rash.
>
> That is what I read but I fed her in brand new dishes and she was still
> scratching at her chin. The lady I got her from freaked and told me not to
> use plastic. Now she has only ceramic, metal or some old Corelle. No
> problems.

I've had cats most of my life. Ferrets only in the last 10 years.
Never heard of cat (or ferret) face rash. WTH?

On 7/17/2014 1:44 PM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>> b.com...
>>> On 7/14/2014 6:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They are a PITA. I had to get rid of ours because Jetta has a plastic
>>>> allergy. Even the metal and ceramic ones have plastic parts in them.
>>>> Plastic gives her an itchy chin which I have been told would progress to
>>>> pimples but I nipped it in the bud by taking away the fountain and
>>>> replacing all of their dishes.
>>>
>>> It's not an allergy, and this is very common when using plastic dishes for
>>> pets. They don't clean up completely and bacteria get in the porous
>>> material causing the face rash.
>>
>> That is what I read but I fed her in brand new dishes and she was still
>> scratching at her chin. The lady I got her from freaked and told me not to
>> use plastic. Now she has only ceramic, metal or some old Corelle. No
>> problems.
>
> I've had cats most of my life. Ferrets only in the last 10 years.
> Never heard of cat (or ferret) face rash. WTH?
>
It's true, Gary. Vets recommend ceramic or metal bowls, not plastic.
I'm sure it doesn't apply to all cats, but then how could it? They're
cats. :-D

Sorry, I don't know a thing about ferrets or their suseptibility to chin
acne.

Jill

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 13:44:58 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>> b.com...
>> > On 7/14/2014 6:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>
>> >> They are a PITA. I had to get rid of ours because Jetta has a plastic
>> >> allergy. Even the metal and ceramic ones have plastic parts in them.
>> >> Plastic gives her an itchy chin which I have been told would progress to
>> >> pimples but I nipped it in the bud by taking away the fountain and
>> >> replacing all of their dishes.
>> >
>> > It's not an allergy, and this is very common when using plastic dishes for
>> > pets. They don't clean up completely and bacteria get in the porous
>> > material causing the face rash.
>>
>> That is what I read but I fed her in brand new dishes and she was still
>> scratching at her chin. The lady I got her from freaked and told me not to
>> use plastic. Now she has only ceramic, metal or some old Corelle. No
>> problems.
>
>I've had cats most of my life. Ferrets only in the last 10 years.
>Never heard of cat (or ferret) face rash. WTH?

http://www.cat-world.com.au/feline-acne

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> b.com...
>> On 7/14/2014 6:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> They are a PITA. I had to get rid of ours because Jetta has a plastic
>>> allergy. Even the metal and ceramic ones have plastic parts in them.
>>> Plastic gives her an itchy chin which I have been told would progress to
>>> pimples but I nipped it in the bud by taking away the fountain and
>>> replacing all of their dishes.
>>
>> It's not an allergy, and this is very common when using plastic dishes
>> for pets. They don't clean up completely and bacteria get in the
>> porous material causing the face rash.
>
> That is what I read but I fed her in brand new dishes and she was still
> scratching at her chin. The lady I got her from freaked and told me not
> to use plastic. Now she has only ceramic, metal or some old Corelle.
> No problems.

I used Corelle for Ming's food and a big ceramic bowl for water. And he
had a fountain. THAT is what he really loved! One of my last memories
is of him drinking... not too successfully, although he did manage to
ingest some water. Poor baby.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
>> b.com...
>> > On 7/14/2014 6:10 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>
>> >> They are a PITA. I had to get rid of ours because Jetta has a plastic
>> >> allergy. Even the metal and ceramic ones have plastic parts in them.
>> >> Plastic gives her an itchy chin which I have been told would progress
>> >> to
>> >> pimples but I nipped it in the bud by taking away the fountain and
>> >> replacing all of their dishes.
>> >
>> > It's not an allergy, and this is very common when using plastic dishes
>> > for
>> > pets. They don't clean up completely and bacteria get in the porous
>> > material causing the face rash.
>>
>> That is what I read but I fed her in brand new dishes and she was still
>> scratching at her chin. The lady I got her from freaked and told me not
>> to
>> use plastic. Now she has only ceramic, metal or some old Corelle. No
>> problems.
>
> I've had cats most of my life. Ferrets only in the last 10 years.
> Never heard of cat (or ferret) face rash. WTH?

I'd heard of it but this is the first cat that I've had who had the problem.
I never saw the rash on her. She was just scratching her chin. She no
longer does that now that I have switched her bowls.