On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 09:06:40 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

> Generally, albuterol is used, but it can produce the shakes, as you
> say. There is another med, Xoponex (the name in the US for
> levalbuterol tartrate), that can be used, but it is much more
> expensive. It comes in inhaler or nebulizer vial formats.

I've used the albuterol inhalers in the past. Never felt shaky or
hopped up afterwards though. Had no idea that was an after effect.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>Generally, albuterol is used, but it can produce the shakes, as you
>say. There is another med, Xoponex (the name in the US for
>levalbuterol tartrate), that can be used, but it is much more
>expensive. It comes in inhaler or nebulizer vial formats.

Albuterol Sulfate (an Rx med) is a bronchodialator, available in
several formats (inhaled powder, inhaled liquid mist, nebulizer),
under many names, and often blended with other medications, but
regardless the name assigned by each pharamaceutical company and where
in the world dispensed they are all do the same thing. Xoponex has
the same side effects as its counterparts.
http://www.rxlist.com/xopenex-side-e...rug-center.htm
The only reason Xoponex is more expensive is that it's a brand name,
it's no more expensive than its other brand name counterparts...
however most people use the generics, much less expensive... and
because most insurance companies won't cover those brand names or
there'll be a much higher co-pay.

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 09:50:57 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>>>> > I wound up being put on an inhaler which didn't help much and then
>>>>> > having
>>>>> > to have two nebulizer treatments. Those were no fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I hope you never have chronic asthma. I have a nebuliser at
>>>>> home.
>>>>
>>>> There's absolutely nothing wrong with a nebuliser. They work good and
>>>> make you feel better. Nothing wrong with that.
>>>
>>> It made me feel a whole lot worse before I eventually felt better.
>>
>>Yes it does leave you shaky but it shouldn't last too long. It is a big
>>hit
>>all at once. I hate it but it does the job when I really need it.
>
> Generally, albuterol is used, but it can produce the shakes, as you
> say. There is another med, Xoponex (the name in the US for
> levalbuterol tartrate), that can be used, but it is much more
> expensive. It comes in inhaler or nebulizer vial formats.

Thanks, Boron. I have Ventolin which comes in inhaler and nubuliser vial
format (Salbutamol). I have Serevent a Bronchodilator (a long-acting
beta2 agonist) Of course I have a steroid inhaler too. The inhalers I use
several times a day and the nebuliser, only when I must


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 09:06:40 -0400, Boron Elgar
> > wrote:
>
>> Generally, albuterol is used, but it can produce the shakes, as you
>> say. There is another med, Xoponex (the name in the US for
>> levalbuterol tartrate), that can be used, but it is much more
>> expensive. It comes in inhaler or nebulizer vial formats.
>
> I've used the albuterol inhalers in the past. Never felt shaky or
> hopped up afterwards though. Had no idea that was an after effect.

That is because the inhaler delivers in such a tiny amount directly into the
lungs. The nebuliser is a very different kettle of fish! That is a huge
dose which does indeed, leave you with the shakes.


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

I'm getting a bit better, slowly... They say take vitamin C and in 7-10
you will be better... or don't, and you will be 7-10 days.

I do think hot foods kick the immune system, a bit... Maybe?

"Tommy Joe" > wrote in message
...
Gus Overton wrote
> doctor recently said I'm normal... contrary to what some here say.

The doctor must be insane, you are far from normal.
===\

Takes one to know one... egads--TJ, you are at least three Standard
Deviations from Normal... Maybe four!
..

> Usenet is read by many...

The private life is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwBH1cD8H24

On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:44:22 -0400, "Gus!" >
wrote:

> I'm getting a bit better, slowly... They say take vitamin C and in 7-10
> you will be better... or don't, and you will be 7-10 days.
>
> I do think hot foods kick the immune system, a bit... Maybe?
>
>
If it was a virus, you would have been over it in 10-14 days anyway.


--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:50:04 -0400, "Gus!" >
wrote:

> "Tommy Joe" > wrote in message
> ...
> Gus Overton wrote
> > doctor recently said I'm normal... contrary to what some here say.
>
> The doctor must be insane, you are far from normal.
> ===\
>
> Takes one to know one... egads--TJ, you are at least three Standard
> Deviations from Normal... Maybe four!
> .
>

At least you provide comic relief, he's just plain weird.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

Gus Overton wrote:

> We are all car mechanics... trying to figure out where that noise is coming from on the passenger side -- while driving down the highway of Life.


Gus, If I am the passenger, I believe we both know where the sound is coming from - and we don't need ears to be aware of it. The nose is good enough.. That's the beauty of the human fart - a rare human phenomena that expresses itself in more ways than one - a true work of art.

The only difference between your scenario and the real one is that in the real scenario YOU will be the passenger and I will be the driver.

You will be bolted tight to the seat with all 4 windows rolled up as my farts along with those from 4 back seat accomplices are blasted into the vehicle creating a greenhouse effect that will prove once and for all - if you are willing to learn - that global warming is all too real. The temperature gauge in the vehicle will prove it, by checking the readings both pre and post farting, then comparing. We are scientists, and if we must resort to force to get our point across and teach our lessons of truth, than by God, so be it.

TJ

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:44:22 -0400, "Gus!" >
> wrote:
>
>> I'm getting a bit better, slowly... They say take vitamin C and in
>> 7-10
>> you will be better... or don't, and you will be 7-10 days.
>>
>> I do think hot foods kick the immune system, a bit... Maybe?
>>
>>
> If it was a virus, you would have been over it in 10-14 days anyway.

it's only been about 4, or so... And my ex brought me jalapenos, hot
jalapenos.... who does that?

sigh... apparently, we still have a bond.

"Tommy Joe" > wrote in message
...
Gus Overton wrote:

> We are all car mechanics... trying to figure out where that noise is
> coming from on the passenger side -- while driving down the highway of
> Life.
---

Gus, If I am the passenger,
---

Your are the Dark Passenger... Dexter Dreaming Darkly, in flannel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkly_Dreaming_Dexter

On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 22:33:23 -0400, "Gus!" >
wrote:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:44:22 -0400, "Gus!" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm getting a bit better, slowly... They say take vitamin C and in
> >> 7-10
> >> you will be better... or don't, and you will be 7-10 days.
> >>
> >> I do think hot foods kick the immune system, a bit... Maybe?
> >>
> >>
> > If it was a virus, you would have been over it in 10-14 days anyway.
>
> it's only been about 4, or so... And my ex brought me jalapenos, hot
> jalapenos.... who does that?
>
> sigh... apparently, we still have a bond.

Don't get your hopes up. Seriously. Women are like that. You back
off and they feel like they can be nice without you getting all -
well, you know.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

"sf" > wrote in message
...

> Don't get your hopes up.

We are in negotiations... If I buy her lunch, perhaps. It will happen?

And she will get hers first this time... I'm not a cad-- contrary to
popular opinion.. Though I just don't know what to do "down there"
It's complicated. And when she starts things with me, I don't want to
hit the brakes... Ok, maybe I am a cad.... But I will try to do better
with her next time.

Anyone have a website, to help with this? Youtube links? A book?
(Not Brooklyn, please. I don't trust his links.)

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 07:55:19 -0400, "Gus!" >
wrote:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Don't get your hopes up.
>
> We are in negotiations... If I buy her lunch, perhaps. It will happen?
>
> And she will get hers first this time... I'm not a cad-- contrary to
> popular opinion.. Though I just don't know what to do "down there"
> It's complicated. And when she starts things with me, I don't want to
> hit the brakes... Ok, maybe I am a cad.... But I will try to do better
> with her next time.
>
> Anyone have a website, to help with this? Youtube links? A book?
> (Not Brooklyn, please. I don't trust his links.)
>
If you need that kind of help, you aren't ready.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

"Gus!" wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Don't get your hopes up.
>
> We are in negotiations... If I buy her lunch, perhaps. It will happen?

If you are even serious at all....the ex is history. Give it up and
move on. You'll find better eventually but not if you keep hanging out
with the ex.

G.

"Gus!" > wrote in message
...
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Don't get your hopes up.
>
> We are in negotiations... If I buy her lunch, perhaps. It will happen?
>
> And she will get hers first this time... I'm not a cad-- contrary to
> popular opinion.. Though I just don't know what to do "down there" It's
> complicated. And when she starts things with me, I don't want to hit
> the brakes... Ok, maybe I am a cad.... But I will try to do better with
> her next time.
>
> Anyone have a website, to help with this? Youtube links? A book?
> (Not Brooklyn, please. I don't trust his links.)

OMG! Take this elsewhere please. This is not a one size fits all thing.
Don't know what to do? Ask her.

On 7/17/2014 3:50 PM, Gary wrote:
> "Gus!" wrote:
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Don't get your hopes up.
>>
>> We are in negotiations... If I buy her lunch, perhaps. It will happen?
>
> If you are even serious at all....the ex is history. Give it up and
> move on.

Gus is a friggin troll. We're about to hear all about his trials and
tribulations with his ex. He wants to take her to Niagara Falls, ya'
know. She brought him some jalapeno peppers. Therefore she must want
to get back together and have sex with him. Especially if he buys her
*lunch*. What the hell is she, a stripper? For lunch you get what?
Good grief.

Meanwhile, his posts attempt to reinforce the belief chili peppers,
garlic and salsa will ward off whatever the heck is ailing you and also
get you laid. Yeah, women fall right over for garlic and salsa breath.
What a dipshit.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> Meanwhile, his posts attempt to reinforce the belief chili peppers, garlic and salsa will ward off whatever the heck is ailing you and also get you laid. Yeah, women fall right over for garlic and salsa breath. What a dipshit.


He is not a troll. He is one of our society's many pathetic and desperately lonely mentally ill people who needs our love and guidance. Other than that, you too are nuts in your own slightly more normal way for failing to see earlier what an ungrateful, inconsiderate, always-asking-questions just for the sake of getting a response, any kind of response from anybody our lonely boy Gus really is. He asks questions and doesn't even respond to the answers. He is using everyone as a sounding board. I suppose in a way we all do that. But some are not as obvious and fake about it as Gus. I can't believe it took you people see long to see the insincerity of his questions. I have nothing against the guy. I exchange posts with him in another group. But his method of asking questions, getting responses, and then not only not responding to the questions, but going off an unrelated jag of his own, is quite crude and should also be quite obvious. You are nuts for not seeing it sooner. I am nuts for thinking you would. Gus is nuts because he's Gus.

TJ - author, "The Reason We're Nuts"

On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 19:42:26 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 7/17/2014 3:50 PM, Gary wrote:
> > "Gus!" wrote:
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> Don't get your hopes up.
> >>
> >> We are in negotiations... If I buy her lunch, perhaps. It will happen?
> >
> > If you are even serious at all....the ex is history. Give it up and
> > move on.
>
> Gus is a friggin troll. We're about to hear all about his trials and
> tribulations with his ex. He wants to take her to Niagara Falls, ya'
> know. She brought him some jalapeno peppers. Therefore she must want
> to get back together and have sex with him. Especially if he buys her
> *lunch*. What the hell is she, a stripper? For lunch you get what?
> Good grief.
>
> Meanwhile, his posts attempt to reinforce the belief chili peppers,
> garlic and salsa will ward off whatever the heck is ailing you and also
> get you laid. Yeah, women fall right over for garlic and salsa breath.
> What a dipshit.
>

He has the Id (Freud) of a teenager... or else he's just plain crazy.
Troll? Unlikely.


--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 19:42:26 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/17/2014 3:50 PM, Gary wrote:
>> > "Gus!" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "sf" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >>> Don't get your hopes up.
>> >>
>> >> We are in negotiations... If I buy her lunch, perhaps. It will
>> >> happen?
>> >
>> > If you are even serious at all....the ex is history. Give it up and
>> > move on.
>>
>> Gus is a friggin troll. We're about to hear all about his trials and
>> tribulations with his ex. He wants to take her to Niagara Falls, ya'
>> know. She brought him some jalapeno peppers. Therefore she must want
>> to get back together and have sex with him. Especially if he buys her
>> *lunch*. What the hell is she, a stripper? For lunch you get what?
>> Good grief.
>>
>> Meanwhile, his posts attempt to reinforce the belief chili peppers,
>> garlic and salsa will ward off whatever the heck is ailing you and also
>> get you laid. Yeah, women fall right over for garlic and salsa breath.
>> What a dipshit.
>>
>
> He has the Id (Freud) of a teenager... or else he's just plain crazy.
> Troll? Unlikely.
>
Yeah. Something isn't right to be sure.

Julie Bove wrote:
sf" wrote in message


> He has the Id (Freud) of a teenager... or else he's just plain crazy. Troll? Unlikely.



> Yeah. Something isn't right to be sure.


I'm nuts too, just so you don't think I'm getting all arrogant and superior in regards to Gus. But, as a part-time amateur psychiatrist as well as a part-time amateur mental patient, I have analyzed Gus's traits from posts into this group as well as those into the group in which I encountered the man of the hour.

Yes, he is nuts. But so are we. Yes, we. I speak for all of us. But his is in your face. It's forced. It's relentless. My number one gripe with Gus is his amazing selfishness, where he'll ask a question, get an answer, then just totally ignore, choosing instead to spring into some screed of his own, usually involving disgusting sex with his gf or problems with squirrels in his yard, never once expressing gratitude for either the gf or the yard as well as the multiple blessings God has bestowed on him and all who live on planet earth - except for those who are starving to death or are tied down on tables in someone's basement being tortured day after day for life. Otherwise, let's be thankful for what we've got.

I am finished analyzing Gus. My diagnosis, as I told him only last week, was simply this: "Gus, you are insane."

"Ok", he said, "so what are we going to do about it?"

"That's your problem", I said. "I'm just a shrink. I analyzed you, as promised, and I came up with a diagnosis, as promised. I never said anything about a cure or anything like that."

Gus got mad. Watch out. Nut cases are dangerous when they are mad.

TJ

On Monday, July 14, 2014 7:11:43 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I keep my problems down with drugs.
>
There are worse ways to keep your problems down.

--Bryan

Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
Ophelia wrote:


> I keep my problems down with drugs.



> There are worse ways to keep your problems down.


As a part time amateur psychiatrist I am here to tell you that the best way to deal with problems is not to "keep them down." Never bury your problems. Bring them to the fore even if you have to ram them down other people's throats. It has been scientifically proved that the best way to deal with problems is to foist them off on other people. But size them up first. You don't want to do it to the wrong person. Choose your target wisely and unleash your problems, keeping your brain free of stress and doubt, with the overall safety of mankind your main objective. Find the right target and cut loose baby.

TJ

"Gary" > wrote in message
...

> If you are even serious at all....the ex is history. Give it up and
> move on. You'll find better eventually but not if you keep hanging out
> with the ex.


I disagree vehemently. We had a very nice day together yesterday. You
don't just give up.

We had a nice lunch. She got her favorite, avocado burrito.

I finally saw her place. It was amazing. Like hoarders-- but worse...
She is Oscar, and I am Felix.

And my wheezing is finally gone.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:45:28 -0400, "Gus!" >
wrote:

> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > If you are even serious at all....the ex is history. Give it up and
> > move on. You'll find better eventually but not if you keep hanging out
> > with the ex.
>
>
> I disagree vehemently. We had a very nice day together yesterday. You
> don't just give up.
>
> We had a nice lunch. She got her favorite, avocado burrito.
>
> I finally saw her place. It was amazing. Like hoarders-- but worse...
> She is Oscar, and I am Felix.
>
> And my wheezing is finally gone.

I know of a couple (brother of an in-law & ex-wife) who can't live
with each other and can't live without. They live in the same city
and have a 5 YO that they are raising together... I know they haven't
remarried, but I don't know what their living arrangement is at the
moment. I probably don't know because it changes.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

Have you quit smoking yet?

sf wrote:

> I know of a couple (brother of an in-law & ex-wife) who can't live with each other and can't live without. They live in the same city
and have a 5 YO that they are raising together... I know they haven't remarried, but I don't know what their living arrangement is at the moment. I probably don't know because it changes.


My comments have little to do with the topic at hand but are inspired by the topic of living arrangements. I read an article in the papers a decade or more back about an 80 year old guy who lived with his 80 year old brother in the same house and died one day and his brother never even knew about it until the cops arrived months later when a concerned neighbor or acquaintance called.

My first thought reading that article was, "My God, that's the perfect room-mate - a guy so quiet that he can die and you won't even know he's gone." There was no foul play suspected. The brothers lived together but went their own ways - so much so, with so much freedom, that even when one died everything sort of stayed the same. Anyway, that's a good room-mate - someone who can die and you won't even know they're gone.

TJ

"bigwheel" > wrote in message
...
>
> Gus!;1949866 Wrote:
>> When I lie quietly, my chest is making wheezing noises. Not loud,
>> just
>>
>> slight, but constant. Is this a sign of pneumonia? Please say no, I
>> don't want to go to the doctor. And I am no condition to travel to
>> go
>> to him.
>>
>> If I eat more onions, garlic, eggs and hot sauce-- will this help? I
>> wish I had got some jalapenos the other day when I went to Kroger. I
>> do
>>
>> have have hot banana peppers.
>>
>> *achoo* *achoo* excuse me... When I sneeze, it's almost always
>> twice.
>
> Have you quit smoking yet?

Never have smoked, not even a fish.

"Tommy Joe" > wrote in message

My comments have little to do with the topic at hand but are inspired by
the topic of living arrangements. I read an article in the papers a
decade or more back about an 80 year old guy who lived with his 80 year
old brother in the same house and died one day and his brother never
even knew about it until the cops arrived months later when a concerned
neighbor or acquaintance called.

My first thought reading that article was, "My God, that's the perfect
room-mate - a guy so quiet that he can die and you won't even know he's
gone." There was no foul play suspected. The brothers lived together
but went their own ways - so much so, with so much freedom, that even
when one died everything sort of stayed the same. Anyway, that's a good
room-mate - someone who can die and you won't even know they're gone.

TJ

---

Did he slip in the bathtub? My niece went to college with a guy that
happened to.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 00:15:48 -0400, "Gus!" >
wrote:

> "bigwheel" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Gus!;1949866 Wrote:
> >>
> >> *achoo* *achoo* excuse me... When I sneeze, it's almost always
> >> twice.
> >
> > Have you quit smoking yet?
>
> Never have smoked, not even a fish.

I read somewhere that multiple sneezes are allergy related.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

I got started on my Grand Dad's unfiltered Chesterfields at age 4. I dont wheeze hardly at all. I think you been sheltered too much maybe. We have a dog like that. He come from a puppy mill and did not see grass till he was grown He is allergic to everything. The good intentions of liberals do not ever work out right.

=sf wrote:

> I read somewhere that multiple sneezes are allergy related.


You mean they're allergic to sneezing?

TJ