On 2014-07-19 10:17 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> Absolutely, Cheri. Living alone does not equal lonely. I guess it
> depends on how comfortable you are in your own skin.
>
> Some people seem to need another person to validate their existence.
> I've known a few people over the years who were terrified of being
> alone. They had the attitude, someone is better than no one. They were
> all people who really didn't like themselves very much.
>

Our recently expired neighbours are a prime example of needing someone
to validate. They were Italian and he was 10-12 years older than her,
and they married when she was very young. He had not been well for
several years and was suffering from dementia related to his heart
problems. She was in denial about his inevitable and not to distant
demise. When my wife had to take her to the hospital after he had been
taken by ambulance she said something that she thought would be
comforting, about him having let a long life and that maybe he was just
too tired to go. The old girl went nuts. She was praying for a miracle.

He was released from the hospital, basically to allow him to die at
home. That happened less than a week later. EMTs were called around 1
am but they were there for hours, firemen, cops, the works. When the old
man died she went berserk and was planning to join him in the afterlife,
planning to drink chlorine and drain cleaner. She ended up in the
mental ward for a week or so.

That was at the end of September. She was a wreck for the next three
months until she died. She just couldn't live without him.

Not everyone wants the surviving spouse to find another mate to be happy
with. For some people it is more a matter of possession and control.

"Cheri" wrote:
>"Brooklyn1" wrote:
>
>> When someone loses a spouse if they truly loved you they'd not want
>> you to live all alone without love for the remainder of your life yet
>> many do, I have no sympathy for those lonely shallow low IQers... and
>
>Many live alone because they choose to, and they're not the least bit lonely
>either.
>
>Cheri

The people I've known who claimed they choose to live alone have
proven to me that they are either liars, truly antisocial, or both...
and often are substance addicted. Many of my co workers that went
through a divorce rather than begin a new life, maybe get some needed
counceling, let the divorce wreck their life... thirty years later
they're still living in the throes of their divorce like it was
yesterday... they drive people away, people tire of hearing about it,
constantly. When asked why they haven't met someone their stock
answer is always "I choose to live alone"... yeah, right. Besides
being bitter and boring they repulse with how they reek of alcohol.
Very often they don't leave home for weeks, they're not sober enough
to drive. They can't afford to go anywhere and have hobbies because
they spend all their disposable income on booze, they drink alone and
they eat alone, they do everything alone. Some won't answer their
phone because they're too zonked and they won't speak on the phone
because their speech is too slurred. They all share one thing in
common, denial.

On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 13:34:59 -0300, wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 11:30:25 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
> >sf wrote:
> >>
> >>> It depends on the person. It might be fine for some people to rush out
> >>> and bring home another pet. Others need time to process.
> >>
> >>I always do.
> >
> >Always do what... bring home another pet or take time to process?
> >English is not your primary language... typical Calyfornian, speaks
> >English in sentence fragments, like the typical illegal wetback.
>
>
> Go play on the highway dumbo!

It's yet another glaring example of how mentally unstable he is.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On Friday, July 18, 2014 8:56:36 PM UTC-6, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/16/2014 11:45 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>
>
> > Wonderful big old farm house on five acres will be auctioned 7/22,
>
> > great piece of land for gardening, has a lovely pond, and a
>
> > spectacular view of the Catskills, half mile down the road from me:
>
> > http://i58.tinypic.com/azgabt.jpg
>
>
>
> I'd love to have a house like that, though it's a bit big for me. It
>
> looks like a fixer-upper, but I like the architecture, and the view
>
> sound lovely.

>
> ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
>
> Cheryl
===

I'd buy it in a flash if I was down there...no hesitation.

===

On 7/19/2014 12:36 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 11:37:39 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> The really childish thing is how he's obsessed with breasts. You can't
>> talk about milk (teats, OMG!) or even chicken breasts without him
>> talking about women's boobs. Get over it. It's not cute behaviour from
>> a 71 year old child.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Christ - are you telling me he is 71 ???
>
Yep. He had a birthday recently. He sure doesn't act like it, does he?

Jill

On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:05:23 -0300, wrote:

> I was thinking general age group of a smutty little boy, at the stage
> where they think saying 'lavatory' is daring and bodily functions
> absorb them. Most males have passed that stage by about 14.

I think they've grown out of it by age 10, if they ever even entered a
stage like that.

--
I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

On 7/18/2014 2:06 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 7/18/2014 10:15 AM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:03:38 -0400, Brooklyn1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear the sad news. You need to get a new cat as soon as
>>>> possible, preferably two or more kittens from the same litter, there
>>>> are plenty to adopt.
>>>
>>> You are callous ! Most people cannot shrug off a beloved pet like
>>> that - as I have endlessly said, I feel so sympathetic for your wife.
>>> Will you replace her like that ?
>>>
>> Agree. I despise that "just get another one" attitude. Uh, what? As
>> if they are so easily replaced.
>>
>> Jill
>
> They are not replaced and they never will be. A new pet just brings in
> new love and companionship to a depressed household. You are not
> replacing one, you are just moving on and just look at the face of the
> new one....all happy and stuff for finally getting a new loving home.
>
Sometimes saying it *can* be callous. When my little dog Sampson died I
called the on-site apartment manager to ask her to remove the extra $20
month pet rent I'd been paying. She said (rather flippantly), "Just get
another dog." That was very insensitive. No, how about you just update
your computer. I'm not getting another dog so you can collect more in
rent. Sheesh, you'd think she worked on commission or something.

Jill

On 2014-07-19 6:05 PM, wrote:

>>>
>> Yep. He had a birthday recently. He sure doesn't act like it, does he?
>>
>> Jill
>
> I was thinking general age group of a smutty little boy, at the stage
> where they think saying 'lavatory' is daring and bodily functions
> absorb them. Most males have passed that stage by about 14.
>


28 ;-)

On 7/19/2014 6:05 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 16:58:57 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/19/2014 12:36 PM, wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 11:37:39 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The really childish thing is how he's obsessed with breasts. You can't
>>>> talk about milk (teats, OMG!) or even chicken breasts without him
>>>> talking about women's boobs. Get over it. It's not cute behaviour from
>>>> a 71 year old child.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Christ - are you telling me he is 71 ???
>>>
>> Yep. He had a birthday recently. He sure doesn't act like it, does he?
>>
>> Jill
>
> I was thinking general age group of a smutty little boy, at the stage
> where they think saying 'lavatory' is daring and bodily functions
> absorb them. Most males have passed that stage by about 14.
>
Apparently he never got past puberty. Such things are still a mystery.

He said in another response to this thread:

"The people I've known who claimed they choose to live alone have
proven to me that they are either liars, truly antisocial, or both...
and often are substance addicted."

Yeah, people who don't want to hang out with him are liars, antisocial
and addicted. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with them just
not wanting to hang out with him.

Jill

On Saturday, July 19, 2014 10:09:35 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 10:38:31 -0400, jmcquown >
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On 7/19/2014 10:23 AM, wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 07:02:30 -0700, "Cheri" >
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>>
>
> >>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>
> >>> ...
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> When someone loses a spouse if they truly loved you they'd not want
>
> >>>> you to live all alone without love for the remainder of your life yet
>
> >>>> many do, I have no sympathy for those lonely shallow low IQers... and
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Many live alone because they choose to, and they're not the least bit lonely
>
> >>> either.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Cheri
>
> >>
>
> >> Correct - I know David would approve of whatever I wanted to do,
>
> >> however, to me, he has been irreplaceable. Thankfully he bore no
>
> >> resemblance to gravesend 10 !
>
> >>
>
> >The fact is, Sheldon's wife is frequently out of town. When he used to
>
> >call me she was usually off on a trip. He just didn't know what to do
>
> >with himself. I think he truly believed because I was living alone I
>
> >must be desperately lonely so I'd want to talk on the phone every day.
>
> >Wrong.
>
> >
>
> >Jill
>
>
>
> I would think it is the only way she can stay married to him, be away
>
> a lot! I've often wondered if he drinks when he posts such revolting
>
> things.

She has to be a tramp to let that filthy old man touch her. Sheldon is
seemingly rather well off, and there are always going to be women who
will whore themselves out to disgusting old men for economic security.
With his attitudes toward women, and human sexuality in general, what must
it be like to be his whore-wife? How horrible to have a misogynist, racist,
homophobe, stinking of cheap vodka drooling and pawing at her breasts, but
hey, some women, I guess that's the best they can do.

Perhaps she'll get lucky, and he'll die sooner rather than later.

--Bryan

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Jean B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> I still have seen virtually no deer at the new house. Barney reminds
>>>> me of my sweet baby Ming, whom I had to have euthanized last week. :-(
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear that. It's amazing how much we love our animals and how
>>> hard it is to lose them.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Ming taught me cat love. I was 43-ish when he came into our lives, as
>> a cat for my daughter. But he bonded with me, possibly because I was
>> the one who took care of him. I am surprised at how the life got
>> sucked out of the house after the deed was done....
>
> Yes. That is why we did not wait to get another. I know some people
> say that you have to grieve and all. And we did and we still do. But
> we needed some cat vibe in the air. House just didn't feel the same.
> And now we are happy that we have two. They can keep each other company.

I can't get another cat (or probably more cats) until life settles down,
and then if I end up visiting my daughter a lot, I probably can't get
one for that period either. I think that along with the sweetness,
there is the randomness of having an uncaged critter who has a mind of
its own. You never know what such a critter might do, when it will
appear, or call for attention, or... It is so much more predictable and
lifeless with no such creature.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/17/2014 11:02 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 7/16/2014 10:10 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>>>> I still have seen virtually no deer at the new house. Barney
>>>> reminds me
>>>> of my sweet baby Ming, whom I had to have euthanized last week. :-(
>>>
>>> I'm so very sorry, Jean.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Thanks, Jill. How is Persia doing?
>
> She's doing pretty well for a little old lady cat. Thanks for asking.
>
> Jill

How old is she? Ming was just over 15.

wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:29:59 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Thanks. I doubt I will ever be so bonded with another fur baby, but who
>> knows. I can't even think about another cat (or, more likely, two
>> litter mates or friends) until I see what pattern my life settles into
>> when my daughter takes off for college.
>
> Sorry for the loss, it's so painful.
>
> Just wait and see, I wasn't going to have another cat but this one
> found me when a woman in our building died and there was nobody to
> take the cat in the closet. It's too soon/painful to think about
> another yet.
>
Oddly enough, I don't feel it is too soon, and also, oddly enough, I
don't feel like I am looking for an exact replacement for Ming (because
there is no such thing). I am looking for life. I am sure when I start
looking at cats that need homes, I will be quite the sucker. (I have
had to stay away from any such place since I discovered that a few years
ago.)

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:56:02 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>
>> Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> I still have seen virtually no deer at the new house. Barney reminds
>>>> me of my sweet baby Ming, whom I had to have euthanized last week. :-(
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear that. It's amazing how much we love our animals and how
>>> hard it is to lose them.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Ming taught me cat love. I was 43-ish when he came into our lives, as a
>> cat for my daughter. But he bonded with me, possibly because I was the
>> one who took care of him. I am surprised at how the life got sucked out
>> of the house after the deed was done....
>
> Sorry to hear the sad news. You need to get a new cat as soon as
> possible, preferably two or more kittens from the same litter, there
> are plenty to adopt.
>
I don't want kittens. I want cats, with known personalities. (As I say
this, I also am thinking of my one reservation about getting an older
cat: you wouldn't know what problems it might have acquired because of
whatever it has been through.) I would get a cat/cats (I think plural,
so they will have companionship) now except I don't think it is fair to
the cat/s to do it now, when I anticipate being away to some degree.

Yes, I will adopt a cat/cats, either littermates or friends. There are
so many that need homes.

wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:03:38 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:56:02 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>> Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Jean B." > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> I still have seen virtually no deer at the new house. Barney reminds
>>>>> me of my sweet baby Ming, whom I had to have euthanized last week. :-(
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear that. It's amazing how much we love our animals and how
>>>> hard it is to lose them.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Ming taught me cat love. I was 43-ish when he came into our lives, as a
>>> cat for my daughter. But he bonded with me, possibly because I was the
>>> one who took care of him. I am surprised at how the life got sucked out
>>> of the house after the deed was done....
>>
>> Sorry to hear the sad news. You need to get a new cat as soon as
>> possible, preferably two or more kittens from the same litter, there
>> are plenty to adopt.
>
> You are callous ! Most people cannot shrug off a beloved pet like
> that - as I have endlessly said, I feel so sympathetic for your wife.
> Will you replace her like that ?
>
It is not necessarily shrugging off a recently deceased, very much loved
cat. I really didn't know how I would react before this happened.
Maybe it is more like a tribute to Ming, who taught me cat love. It is
hard to explain.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/18/2014 10:15 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:03:38 -0400, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry to hear the sad news. You need to get a new cat as soon as
>>> possible, preferably two or more kittens from the same litter, there
>>> are plenty to adopt.
>>
>> You are callous ! Most people cannot shrug off a beloved pet like
>> that - as I have endlessly said, I feel so sympathetic for your wife.
>> Will you replace her like that ?
>>
> Agree. I despise that "just get another one" attitude. Uh, what? As
> if they are so easily replaced.
>
> Jill

Not replaced... as in you think you can ever find a cat like the one
who died, esp. if you adored that cat. I know I can never replace Ming.
He was my sweetheart. The relationship with a new cat/cats would
evolve in its own direction.

Gary wrote:
> My "Mr.Kitty" lived 19.5 years and we adopted him just as soon as he
> was able to leave the litter. Such a tiny kitten at first. He even
> came down (from upstairs) for short visits each day a month before he
> was able to fend on his own.

That so sweet.

He was my daughter's 9th birthday
> present and soon after became my problem to take care of him.

Problem. Did you feel that at first? I thought it was interesting that
I was the one who had to take care of Ming. I don't even remember why now.

eheheh
> He was the son I never had. Once he got to about age 3 or 4, he owned
> me and the house and not the other way around.

Yeah. That's how it goes. Ming ended up being a very expensive cat....
>
>
> G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> He was a serious loss to me.
>
I'm sorry.

Gary wrote:
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:29:59 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. I doubt I will ever be so bonded with another fur baby, but who
>>> knows. I can't even think about another cat (or, more likely, two
>>> litter mates or friends) until I see what pattern my life settles into
>>> when my daughter takes off for college.
>>
>> Sorry for the loss, it's so painful.
>>
>> Just wait and see, I wasn't going to have another cat but this one
>> found me when a woman in our building died and there was nobody to
>> take the cat in the closet. It's too soon/painful to think about
>> another yet.
>
> Loss of a beloved pet is so hurtful. Getting a new pet soon though can
> really help out. You're not replacing the one you loved and lost, but
> bringing in a new one soon after can really brighten up your life and
> your household. A new kitten will be so adorable and innocent and
> always playful that you can be happy with that while still missing the
> old one.
>
> Get a rescue older cat, and treat it with kindness and it helps just
> as much if not more.
>
> In honor of your departed loved one, rescue one that's had a bad life
> and give them a loving home. What a difference you can make in a
> life. :-D
>
> G.
>
There are so many cats that need homes. Yes, it would be a tribute to
Ming and his teachings. I gather your little guy was your first cat
too? How old were you when YOU discovered cat love?

wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 13:40:51 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> Sorry to hear the sad news. You need to get a new cat as soon as
>>>> possible, preferably two or more kittens from the same litter, there
>>>> are plenty to adopt.
>>>
>>> You are callous ! Most people cannot shrug off a beloved pet like
>>> that - as I have endlessly said, I feel so sympathetic for your wife.
>>> Will you replace her like that ?
>>
>> Not callous at all. Lose a beloved pet? Get a new one pronto and make
>> their life a better one. No need to sit in the house crying about a
>> loss and staying sad. Make a new animal happy and it will cheer you up
>> right away. This is nothing about forgetting the recently
>> departed...you can still love them and miss them. Honor you departed
>> pet by giving another a better life.
>>
>> G.
>
> Clearly men see this differently. It was months before I wanted to
> see another cat strolling around here and not my Bucket. I only took
> this one because it was me or the chop. The OP had already said why
> she would not get another cat immediately, that's to be respected in
> my book.
>
I don't think this is a male-female thing. It depends on the person.
No one can dictate what is right for another person. Some people want
to get another animal very soon, and it is totally wrong for other
people. I knew I would be devastated when Ming died, and that if I had
to have him PTS it would be just awful. I had NO idea how I would feel
about getting another cat/cats--whether it would be soon or whether
there would be a lengthy hiatus. For that matter, this may be different
each time you lose a beloved furry critter. I don't know that
first-hand yet.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/18/2014 1:40 PM, Gary wrote:
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> Sorry to hear the sad news. You need to get a new cat as soon as
>>>> possible, preferably two or more kittens from the same litter, there
>>>> are plenty to adopt.
>>>
>>> You are callous ! Most people cannot shrug off a beloved pet like
>>> that - as I have endlessly said, I feel so sympathetic for your wife.
>>> Will you replace her like that ?
>>
>> Not callous at all. Lose a beloved pet? Get a new one pronto and make
>> their life a better one. No need to sit in the house crying about a
>> loss and staying sad.
>
> It depends on the person. It might be fine for some people to rush out
> and bring home another pet. Others need time to process. Until Persia
> barged into my life after my dog of 18 years died, I *never* planned to
> get another pet. She pretty much insisted, though.
>
> Then too, you never know if there are circumstances that might prevent
> someone from getting another pet. Finances, health issues, etc. When
> the time is right, someone who wants another pet will adopt one. Or be
> adopted by one.
>
> Jill

Age is one of those et ceteras I think.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:06:13 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> On 7/18/2014 10:15 AM, wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:03:38 -0400, Brooklyn1
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to hear the sad news. You need to get a new cat as soon as
>>>>> possible, preferably two or more kittens from the same litter, there
>>>>> are plenty to adopt.
>>>>
>>>> You are callous ! Most people cannot shrug off a beloved pet like
>>>> that - as I have endlessly said, I feel so sympathetic for your wife.
>>>> Will you replace her like that ?
>>>>
>>> Agree. I despise that "just get another one" attitude. Uh, what? As
>>> if they are so easily replaced.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> They are not replaced and they never will be. A new pet just brings in
>> new love and companionship to a depressed household. You are not
>> replacing one, you are just moving on and just look at the face of the
>> new one....all happy and stuff for finally getting a new loving home.
>>
>> Honor your old pet by providing a nice loving home to a new one.
>> Rescues that had a hard early live are the best.
>
> Wasting your breath, those shallow blowhards
> are incapable of comprehending. I've lost many cats, all are still
> important, all have well marked graves that are visited and tended to
> often. But it's just plain selfish not to give another needy little
> life a home. I've discovered over the years that those who only have
> one pet are not very nice people, they're extremely self centered and
> selfish. Even worse are those who lose a pet and need to advertize
> month after month just to savor the pity.
>
I have Ming's ashes because I want him to be buried with me. (I am
sorry this has turned into a rather long thread. I will try to "sit on
my hands", but my hands sometimes have mind of their own.)

wrote:
> So sorry about Ming. It's so hard to lose a critter.
>
> Denise in NH
>
Thanks, Denise. Sockmonkey????

Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 7/16/2014 9:10 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>
>> I still have seen virtually no deer at the new house. Barney reminds me
>> of my sweet baby Ming, whom I had to have euthanized last week. :-(
>
> Oh no, Jean, I am so sorry for your loss. May his memories stay close to
> your heart and bring you some comfort.
>
> Becca
>
>
Thanks. I will never forget him. He was my cat love.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> lucretiaborgia@cheapdago wrote:
>>> Jean B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. I doubt I will ever be so bonded with another fur baby, but who
>>>> knows. I can't even think about another cat (or, more likely, two
>>>> litter mates or friends) until I see what pattern my life settles into
>>>> when my daughter takes off for college.
>>>
>>> Sorry for the loss, it's so painful.
>>>
>>> Just wait and see, I wasn't going to have another cat but this one
>>> found me when a woman in our building died and there was nobody to
>>> take the cat in the closet. It's too soon/painful to think about
>>> another yet.
>>
>> Loss of a beloved pet is so hurtful. Getting a new pet soon though can
>> really help out. You're not replacing the one you loved and lost, but
>> bringing in a new one soon after can really brighten up your life and
>> your household. A new kitten will be so adorable and innocent and
>> always playful that you can be happy with that while still missing the
>> old one.
>>
>> Get a rescue older cat, and treat it with kindness and it helps just
>> as much if not more.
>>
>> In honor of your departed loved one, rescue one that's had a bad life
>> and give them a loving home. What a difference you can make in a
>> life. :-D
>
> When someone loses a spouse if they truly loved you they'd not want
> you to live all alone without love for the remainder of your life yet
> many do, I have no sympathy for those lonely shallow low IQers... and
> it's the same with pets. I've always made sure I've had several, so
> when one passes I miss them but the others move in to fill the gap,
> and I find another that needs a home... usually another finds me... I
> never turn a needy critter away. Besides the six I have indoors I
> have six in my barn, and often more, I feed all. Today I was out at
> the barn three times to fill the food and water bowls... in winter I
> supply heat... most times I don't see the barn cats but I know they're
> there and they need to live too. Truth is I spend more on feeding
> critters than I do feeding myself. I bet my birdseed bill is more
> than that ugli sicilian stronzo welfare borgia spends to feed her
> family.
>

Oh gee. Bird seed. My birds are eating me out of house and home. I
guess they know a good thing when they see it!

jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/19/2014 10:23 AM, wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 07:02:30 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> When someone loses a spouse if they truly loved you they'd not want
>>>> you to live all alone without love for the remainder of your life yet
>>>> many do, I have no sympathy for those lonely shallow low IQers... and
>>>
>>> Many live alone because they choose to, and they're not the least bit
>>> lonely
>>> either.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Correct - I know David would approve of whatever I wanted to do,
>> however, to me, he has been irreplaceable. Thankfully he bore no
>> resemblance to gravesend 10 !
>>
> The fact is, Sheldon's wife is frequently out of town. When he used to
> call me she was usually off on a trip. He just didn't know what to do
> with himself. I think he truly believed because I was living alone I
> must be desperately lonely so I'd want to talk on the phone every day.
> Wrong.
>
> Jill

Why are you revealing personal stuff about Sheldon?

Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 7/19/2014 5:21 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 23:22:26 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 16:53:20 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It depends on the person. It might be fine for some people to rush out
>>>> and bring home another pet. Others need time to process.
>>>
>>> I always do.
>>
>> There are other things that one can be doing, raising money for pet
>> shelters would be one. I grow catnip on my balcony then when it is
>> cut and dried I knit mice which I fill with catnip, usually do well
>> over 100 and because the cat nip is so fresh, cats love them and I
>> have standing orders every year and proceeds go to a no kill shelter
>> locally. I even developed my own quick pattern for knitting the mice,
>> takes about an hour, and any left over yarn will do because for cats,
>> it is the cat nip that attracts not the colour of the mouse - I can
>> put the pattern here if anyone wants it.
>
> What a great hobby. I get anxious at night, while sitting and watching
> TV, so knitting would give me something to keep my hands busy. If you
> have any short pieces of yarn, they are helpful to birds for nest building.
>
> http://inthenext30days.net/tag/birds/
>
> Becca
>
>
Note: It has to be natural fiber. I looked into this ere I put out
material for nest-building. Also, IMO, you need to think about
camouflage. The stuff I put out was off-white, and I wonder if it made
the nests too visible. I know one nest was destroyed shortly after it
got built. It was really sad, because I saw the birds procreating, saw
them building that nest, and then saw a blue jay that seemed to be
breaking eggs. I also saw that the nest had been ruined.

On 7/16/2014 10:10 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>>
>
> I still have seen virtually no deer at the new house. Barney reminds me
> of my sweet baby Ming, whom I had to have euthanized last week. :-(

Oh, Jean, I'm so sorry for your loss of Ming. I know how attached you were.

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On 7/18/2014 12:58 PM, Gary wrote:
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:29:59 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. I doubt I will ever be so bonded with another fur baby, but who
>>> knows. I can't even think about another cat (or, more likely, two
>>> litter mates or friends) until I see what pattern my life settles into
>>> when my daughter takes off for college.
>>
>> Sorry for the loss, it's so painful.
>>
>> Just wait and see, I wasn't going to have another cat but this one
>> found me when a woman in our building died and there was nobody to
>> take the cat in the closet. It's too soon/painful to think about
>> another yet.
>
> Loss of a beloved pet is so hurtful. Getting a new pet soon though can
> really help out. You're not replacing the one you loved and lost, but
> bringing in a new one soon after can really brighten up your life and
> your household. A new kitten will be so adorable and innocent and
> always playful that you can be happy with that while still missing the
> old one.
>
> Get a rescue older cat, and treat it with kindness and it helps just
> as much if not more.
>
> In honor of your departed loved one, rescue one that's had a bad life
> and give them a loving home. What a difference you can make in a
> life. :-D
>
> G.
>
While a new one can't replace the lost one, I try to look at it as
having room to save a homeless animal. It is painful to lose a beloved
pet, that's for sure.

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On 7/18/2014 8:51 PM, Kalmia wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:45:45 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> Wonderful big old farm house on five acres will be auctioned 7/22,
>>
>> great piece of land for gardening, has a lovely pond, and a
>>
>> spectacular view of the Catskills, half mile down the road from
>> me:
>>
>> http://i58.tinypic.com/azgabt.jpg
>
> Dynamite B and B. There ya go. Serve a good b-fast - use all your
> cooking skills......
>
That is such a good idea! If it wasn't so close to Sheldon, I'd think
seriously about it as a change in my life. I'm getting burned out with
IT work.

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Cheryl

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 7/18/2014 12:58 PM, Gary wrote:
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:29:59 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. I doubt I will ever be so bonded with another fur baby, but
>>>> who
>>>> knows. I can't even think about another cat (or, more likely, two
>>>> litter mates or friends) until I see what pattern my life settles into
>>>> when my daughter takes off for college.
>>>
>>> Sorry for the loss, it's so painful.
>>>
>>> Just wait and see, I wasn't going to have another cat but this one
>>> found me when a woman in our building died and there was nobody to
>>> take the cat in the closet. It's too soon/painful to think about
>>> another yet.
>>
>> Loss of a beloved pet is so hurtful. Getting a new pet soon though can
>> really help out. You're not replacing the one you loved and lost, but
>> bringing in a new one soon after can really brighten up your life and
>> your household. A new kitten will be so adorable and innocent and
>> always playful that you can be happy with that while still missing the
>> old one.
>>
>> Get a rescue older cat, and treat it with kindness and it helps just
>> as much if not more.
>>
>> In honor of your departed loved one, rescue one that's had a bad life
>> and give them a loving home. What a difference you can make in a
>> life. :-D
>>
>> G.
>>
> While a new one can't replace the lost one, I try to look at it as having
> room to save a homeless animal. It is painful to lose a beloved pet,
> that's for sure.

It took us over a year to get over the loss of our dog. We recently got
another, and we love her but will never forget our last one.


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On 7/20/2014 12:41 AM, Jean B. wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/19/2014 10:23 AM, wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 07:02:30 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> When someone loses a spouse if they truly loved you they'd not want
>>>>> you to live all alone without love for the remainder of your life yet
>>>>> many do, I have no sympathy for those lonely shallow low IQers... and
>>>>
>>>> Many live alone because they choose to, and they're not the least bit
>>>> lonely
>>>> either.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Correct - I know David would approve of whatever I wanted to do,
>>> however, to me, he has been irreplaceable. Thankfully he bore no
>>> resemblance to gravesend 10 !
>>>
>> The fact is, Sheldon's wife is frequently out of town. When he used to
>> call me she was usually off on a trip. He just didn't know what to do
>> with himself. I think he truly believed because I was living alone I
>> must be desperately lonely so I'd want to talk on the phone every day.
>> Wrong.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Why are you revealing personal stuff about Sheldon?

Because he started posting blatant lies because I didn't want to be his
phone-pal.

Jill

On 7/20/2014 6:53 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Cheryl" > wrote in message
> eb.com...
>>>
>> While a new one can't replace the lost one, I try to look at it as
>> having room to save a homeless animal. It is painful to lose a beloved
>> pet, that's for sure.
>
> It took us over a year to get over the loss of our dog. We recently got
> another, and we love her but will never forget our last one.
>
>
I felt the same way about my dog Sampson. He was like my child, only a
month shy of his 18th birthday when I had to have him PTS. He had been
with me all of my adult life. The last thing I wanted was to rush out
and get another dog. As it happens, nearly a year later Persia showed
up at my patio door and demanded to be let inside. I'd never had a cat
before... it's certainly different.

Jill

Cheryl wrote:

> Gary wrote:
> > In honor of your departed loved one, rescue one that's had a bad life
> > and give them a loving home. What a difference you can make in a
> > life. :-D
> >
> While a new one can't replace the lost one, I try to look at it as
> having room to save a homeless animal. It is painful to lose a beloved
> pet, that's for sure.

A household that loses a one and only pet after many years is not fun
to come home to. When I was married with young children, we lost a
very beloved cat early. She was only about 3 years old. The one day we
let her outside, she got very sick (always suspected she might have
been poisoned). The vet couldn't help either. Long sad story short
after a week of daily antibiotic shots, we had to have her put down.
The vet agreed.

What a quiet depressed household we had for the next week. Then I ran
into someone that needed to find a new home. I brought him in and
just his playful mannor cheered up quite a bit. We still missed the
one that died but new happy kitty was a nice distraction and helped a
lot.

G.

On 7/20/2014 12:07 AM, Jean B. wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/18/2014 10:15 AM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:03:38 -0400, Brooklyn1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear the sad news. You need to get a new cat as soon as
>>>> possible, preferably two or more kittens from the same litter, there
>>>> are plenty to adopt.
>>>
>>> You are callous ! Most people cannot shrug off a beloved pet like
>>> that - as I have endlessly said, I feel so sympathetic for your wife.
>>> Will you replace her like that ?
>>>
>> Agree. I despise that "just get another one" attitude. Uh, what? As
>> if they are so easily replaced.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Not replaced... as in you think you can ever find a cat like the one
> who died, esp. if you adored that cat. I know I can never replace Ming.
> He was my sweetheart. The relationship with a new cat/cats would
> evolve in its own direction.

Of course. But when your daughter leaves for college you may be doing a
bit of travelling to visit her. Until she gets settled in it might be
better for you to wait. Of course it's completely up to you. I
definitely appreciate being told "just get another one" after my dog
Sampson died.

Jill

"Jean B." wrote:
>
> There are so many cats that need homes. Yes, it would be a tribute to
> Ming and his teachings. I gather your little guy was your first cat
> too? How old were you when YOU discovered cat love?

Mr.Kitty was my 5th cat. I got my first one in 1974 or so. Two died
of illness and two died by getting run over by a car. They were all
indoor/outdoor cats until Mr.Kitty. He stayed indoors all the time and
he lived the longest.

When he died, I already had 2 ferrets (who loved him and he loved
them), so I didn't look for a new cat friend.

G.

On 7/20/2014 9:37 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/20/2014 12:07 AM, Jean B. wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>> Agree. I despise that "just get another one" attitude. Uh, what? As
>>> if they are so easily replaced.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Not replaced... as in you think you can ever find a cat like the one
>> who died, esp. if you adored that cat. I know I can never replace Ming.
>> He was my sweetheart. The relationship with a new cat/cats would
>> evolve in its own direction.
>
> Of course. But when your daughter leaves for college you may be doing a
> bit of travelling to visit her. Until she gets settled in it might be
> better for you to wait. Of course it's completely up to you. I
> definitely *DID NOT* appreciate being told "just get another one" after my dog
> Sampson died.
>
> Jill

On 7/19/2014 11:44 PM, Jean B. wrote:
> Ema Nymton wrote:

>> What a great hobby. I get anxious at night, while sitting and watching
>> TV, so knitting would give me something to keep my hands busy. If you
>> have any short pieces of yarn, they are helpful to birds for nest
>> building.
>>
>> http://inthenext30days.net/tag/birds/
>>
>> Becca
>>
>>
> Note: It has to be natural fiber. I looked into this ere I put out
> material for nest-building. Also, IMO, you need to think about
> camouflage. The stuff I put out was off-white, and I wonder if it made
> the nests too visible. I know one nest was destroyed shortly after it
> got built. It was really sad, because I saw the birds procreating, saw
> them building that nest, and then saw a blue jay that seemed to be
> breaking eggs. I also saw that the nest had been ruined.

Thank you for mentioning natural fibers in pieces of yarn, and natural
colors for their nests.

Becca

On 7/19/2014 11:56 PM, Jean B. wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/17/2014 11:02 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/2014 10:10 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>>>>> I still have seen virtually no deer at the new house. Barney
>>>>> reminds me
>>>>> of my sweet baby Ming, whom I had to have euthanized last week. :-(
>>>>
>>>> I'm so very sorry, Jean.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Thanks, Jill. How is Persia doing?
>>
>> She's doing pretty well for a little old lady cat. Thanks for asking.
>>
>> Jill
>
> How old is she? Ming was just over 15.

Best guess, 16. She was an adult cat when she showed up at my back door
demanding entry. The vet said she was probably two or 3 at the time.
He checked for a chip, none. I had put out flyers and called other vets
and shelters, no one was looking for her. She was most likely
abandoned. Their loss, my gain.

Jill

On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 11:45:45 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:


>Wonderful big old farm house on five acres will be auctioned 7/22,
>great piece of land for gardening, has a lovely pond, and a
>spectacular view of the Catskills, half mile down the road from me:
>http://i58.tinypic.com/azgabt.jpg

3,457 square feet is a big house.
http://tinyurl.com/m4m8bjk

Ross

On 7/20/2014 3:18 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 7/18/2014 8:51 PM, Kalmia wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:45:45 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>> Wonderful big old farm house on five acres will be auctioned 7/22,
>>>
>>> great piece of land for gardening, has a lovely pond, and a
>>>
>>> spectacular view of the Catskills, half mile down the road from
>>> me:
>>>
>>> http://i58.tinypic.com/azgabt.jpg
>>
>> Dynamite B and B. There ya go. Serve a good b-fast - use all your
>> cooking skills......
>>
> That is such a good idea! If it wasn't so close to Sheldon, I'd think
> seriously about it as a change in my life. I'm getting burned out with
> IT work.
>
What, you don't want him dropping in?

Jill