"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
> Glorifying? Needless slaughter? It must be nice to be so sure of that of
> which you ignorantly speak.
> The shows are about a sustenance lifestyle, living mostly off the grid,
> and how these people earn
> cash to buy the few things they can't make themselves or produce to eat.
> It's also nice you have time
> to watch shows just so you can scoff at them.

Yes and yes. It is amazing how much time I save buying my food at a market
rather than pretending I have to go and kill wild animals myself.

> As for Tom and Nancy trying out wolverine...why not? It might have turned
> out to be another kind of
> protein they could preserve to eat when food is scarce.

Why? They want to pretended to be frontiersman. It is a game they play.
They do it for fun not because they have to.




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Oh, I didn't realize, PC, that you knew the Oars personally and know all about their finances.

N.

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
> Oh, I didn't realize, PC, that you knew the Oars personally and know all
> about their finances.

He can afford a stockpile of weapons, snow mobiles, ATVs, cars, jeeps,
trucks, a boat. He can afford hamburger. Plus he gets paid to be on TV.
He just has chosen to live where he lives and I doubt he has leprosy or
typhoid either.

I said it an I will say it again, hunting is a blood sporty and nothing
else. If you can afford the 10 grand or so it takes to bring down an elk
legally, you have no need to kill anything to feed yourself.

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On 7/18/2014 8:35 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:13:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> I'm sure many of you have wondered what a Wolverine tastes like, but
>> just never had the chance to try it.
>>
>> I watched an episode of Mountain Men on the History Channel. Tom, the
>> older guy in Montana does some trapping and caught a Wolverine. Not
>> wanting to waste anything, after taking the pelt his wife cooked it up.
>> He said it tastes just like Muskrat. So, now you know.
>
> Wolverines are nasty-smelling animals. They are also known as "stink
> bears" or "skunk bears". I'll pass. He could have just thrown the
> carcass out and some other animal would have enjoyed it - it wouldn't
> have gone to waste.

He's been at this long enough to know how to remove the musk gland.

The pelt is worth several hundred dollars.

Wild animals in the forest can feed their damned selves, fool

> Then he could have gone out for Whopper with
> cheese.
>
> -sw
>

Where would he go to do that?

80 miles as the crow flies to Kalispell or Columbia Falls?

Or a good 50 miles to Sandpoint?

If you've nothing to say of value, just stfu.

On 7/18/2014 10:01 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm sure many of you have wondered what a Wolverine tastes like, but just
>> never had the chance to try it.
>>
>> I watched an episode of Mountain Men on the History Channel. Tom, the
>> older guy in Montana does some trapping and caught a Wolverine. Not
>> wanting to waste anything, after taking the pelt his wife cooked it up. He
>> said it tastes just like Muskrat. So, now you know.
>
> He could have just had some tacos from the food truck behind the cameras.
> Another BS reality show. They sure are glorifying the needless slaughter of
> wildlife on those shows.

Nothing needless about skinning and tanning pelts.

Except for your stupid comments.

On 7/18/2014 10:48 AM, Chemo wrote:
> "Bears running rampant in large urban areas". Please provide proof of that stupid statement.

Visit any mountain ski town, dummy.

> A bear here and there isn't rampant!

Until it's in _your_ home foraging.

On 7/18/2014 10:52 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> Hunting is blood sport and any ******* who pretends it is for any other
> reason is just a bald faced liar.

There are plenty of folks who prefer lean wild game with no
preservatives or hormones or antibiotics in it.

Hunting is a regulated way to control herd sizes and fill the freezer.

And you're a pansy ******* to claim otherwise.

On 7/18/2014 11:03 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2014-07-18, Paul M. Cook > wrote:
>
>> Hunting is blood sport and any ******* who pretends it is for any other
>> reason is just a bald faced liar.
>
> Jes for the record, I don't hunt. But, it's pretty obvious you have
> serious emotional issues with anything other than factory farming of
> animals.
>
> nb
>
Anyone who's ever been to a kill plant know "blood" not for sport.

Buncha shrink wrap hypocrite pansies.

On 7/18/2014 11:09 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2014-07-18, Paul M. Cook > wrote:
>>
>>> Hunting is blood sport and any ******* who pretends it is for any other
>>> reason is just a bald faced liar.
>>
>> Jes for the record, I don't hunt. But, it's pretty obvious you have
>> serious emotional issues with anything other than factory farming of
>> animals.
>>
>
> Me? I have killed a few coyotes in my day. I did it because they were a
> clear and present menace to the neighborhood and were destroying our pets
> and getting into everything and even breeding. So I killed them because
> there was no other way to get rid of them. I would myself shoot feral pigs
> because they are an invasive species damaging the natural ecology as well as
> invading neighborhoods. Plus they taste so damned good.
>
> And yes I have major issues with "sport" hunters. It's just plain wrong
> and immoral to kill wild creatures for the pleasure of watching them die or
> to mount their head on your wall so you can brag about what a bad ass you
> are. Such people are sickos.

Pure trophy hunters are rare these days.

In almost every case the meat goes to the local community in 3rd world
nations, or to a community food bank otherwise.

You don't have a clue what you're bleating about.

On 7/18/2014 11:22 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/18/2014 12:01 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I'm sure many of you have wondered what a Wolverine tastes like, but
>>>> just
>>>> never had the chance to try it.
>>>>
>>>> I watched an episode of Mountain Men on the History Channel. Tom, the
>>>> older guy in Montana does some trapping and caught a Wolverine. Not
>>>> wanting to waste anything, after taking the pelt his wife cooked it up.
>>>> He
>>>> said it tastes just like Muskrat. So, now you know.
>>>
>>> He could have just had some tacos from the food truck behind the cameras.
>>> Another BS reality show. They sure are glorifying the needless slaughter
>>> of
>>> wildlife on those shows.
>>
>>
>> Are you a vegan? If not, animals are being killed on your behalf. Most
>> of the people living like like that are really careful not to waste
>> anything. If he really did eat the wolverine or it was food for other
>> animals, there is no waste. It saved the life of a couple of Tyson
>> chickens perhaps.
>
> Funny. And no I am not a vegan. I take issue with needless killing of wild
> creatures which I consider utterly immoral.

You're in no position to define moral.

And there is need when the meat gets eaten and the hide tanned out.

Live with it, pansy.

>> The animal is providing food and clothing. No polyesters were killed in
>> the filming. No oil was extracted from the earth to make artificial
>> clothing.
>
> And why is that chuckle **** out there in the first place? This is 2014 not
> 1810.

So you appointed yourself depopulator in chief for rural areas?

You fascist *******.


> That wolverine is far mor valuable than a couple of Purdue Farms hens

So what?

Hens don't roam the north woods.

> which can be reproduced by the billions

In starkly inhumane inside plant conditions.

I knew you were too stupid to eat free range.

You should see how your eggs and chickens are raised sometime, you
bleeding heart phony.

> unlike wild creatures which are
> being driven to extinction by assholes who kill them for fun and something
> to hang on their wall. That is the point.

Your only point is atop your flat and empty head.

Grow a damned brain.

On 7/18/2014 11:47 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Friday, July 18, 2014 9:52:07 AM UTC-7, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>> "notbob" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> On 2014-07-18, Paul M. Cook > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> They sure are glorifying the needless slaughter of wildlife on those
>>>>> shows.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Those shows being? Do you actually know of what you speak or do you
>>>> jes spout tree-hugger platitudes?
>>>
>>>
>>> Cable TV abounds with numerous death shows on many channels. We have
>>> Hunting Alaska. We have the survival shows. We have the "sportsman"
>>> channel. All about slaughtering wildlife for the pure pleasure of
>>> killing.
>>>
>>> And all by a bunch of goons who can afford thousands of dollars in
>>> hunting
>>> gear and tags (when they actually do it legally) and drones and scopes
>>> and
>>> hunting blinds and animal hormones and night vision goggles and infrared
>>> cameras and anything else you need to give yourself every possible
>>> advantage
>>> but claim they are too poor to buy hamburger at the local supermarket so
>>> they have to kill to survive. Yeah right.
>>>
>>
>> Actually, trophy hunting is not the same as subsistence hunting. And
>> subsistence hunting is the only way that thousands of human beings
>> are able to sustain life. Not many vegetables grow above the Arctic Circle
>> Not many Safeways up there, either.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> What "needless slaughter"? Wild pigs have become a plague. We have
>>>> so many deer in my area, you gotta shoo 'em outta the way to get into
>>>> a parking space. It's easier to hit one with yer car than get a
>>>> hunting tag. Flocks of turkeys are walking down the streets of
>>>> small-town America. Bears are running rampant in large urban
>>>> centers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There are of course exceptions. I have no issue with killing invasive
>>> species (which we introduced) when they are decimating other wildlife.
>>> But
>>> slaughtering a 800 pound grizzly bear for the pleasure of it is not the
>>> same
>>> thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> What is "needless" is the power of state game agencies to perpetuate
>>>> themselves into ever growing bureaucracies that survive by legislating
>>>> game laws that allow wild game numbers to explode beyond control.
>>>> Reminds me of that FL case where huge numbers of deer were starving to
>>>> death. Can't issue tags to hunters to reduce the pops, but can
>>>> certainly allow 'em to die by starvation. Needless slaughter, indeed.
>>>
>>
>> This raises the issue that animals left in the state of nature are not
>> going to live forever. And the death from a hunter's bullet might well
>> be more humane than what an apex predator will administer.
>
> That is BS. Hunters do not select dying or weak animals.
He never said they did.

That's your misinterpretation, pansy.

> The whole point
> is to kill the best of the best. Do you want that old deer with bad teeth
> or that huge 12 pointg buck? Either way your 3,000.00 hunting rifle with
> telescopic site will pick it off from 100 yards. What a challenge? Een a
> child can do that.

You sound like someone who has never hunted. I wager windage and
elevation are a few letters to big for your small head.

> Hunting is the reverse of natural selection.

So is most of human life.

Please volunteer to go out naturally.

That measn with rotting teeth dressed ina loincloth or froze solid from
hypothermia.

No modern conveniences, and certainly no socialist health care.

Have fun, *******.

> Hunters remove from the gene
> pool the very animals nature intended to survive.

Some, but not all.

Hunting is tightly regulated in this country.

> Contrast this to the old
> way when subsistence hunters killed the easiest animals because it was their
> meat they wanted not a trophy. Therefore they were acting with nature and
> extracting animals that were of lesser value to the species' gene pool.
> This made the animals that much stronger and more able to survice.

That's nice, so why did Cro Magnon go extinct then?

> Spare me please the moronic excuses hunter make to deflect from the bloody
> truth about their immoral and sadistic hobby.

Ever been to a commercial meat processing plant, you shrink wrap meat
tray hypocrite?

**** off.

>>> BS. We'd not have any wild animals left if somebody didn;' keep modern
>>> day
>>> Daniel Boones under control. Wild "game" "explodes" beyond copntrol
>>> because
>>> we have utterly ****ed up the natural world. That 400 pound cougar that
>>> got
>>> killed to make a rug was doing a damned fine job of keeping feral pigs at
>>> nay when it was alive.
>>>
>>
>> The white man brought wild boar to America, for the purpose of improving
>> hunting. They interbred with domestic swine that escaped their pens.
>
> I'd call that a major cluster, wouldn't you?

I'd call it unintended consequences, sort of like viruses and so on.

>>> Hunting is blood sport and any ******* who pretends it is for any other
>>> reason is just a bald faced liar.
>>>
>>
>> Other than hunting, unless you raise your own meat you never have a
>> sense of how your life depends on animals that gave their lives to
>> sustain yours.
>
> We raise animals for food.

We sure do.

> That is their role.

Nice of us to play God, ain't it?

> Wild aninals have their own
> roles and dying so some asshole can pose with a picture of it lying dead
> isn't one of them.

Why not?

The native Americans always celebrated and thanked the animal and the
Great Spirit for the bounty.

Then they used to tools of the day and carved tribute pictographs.

> Kind of like these:
>
> http://www.rightwingnews.com/special...lissa-bachman/
>
> Check out the 12 point rack on that bimbo. Ask her if she's game and if she
> says yes, shoot her.

So you're fine with killing humans for your political hatred, but not
animals.

I think we know just who and what you are.

On 7/18/2014 11:52 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 7/18/2014 10:13 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> I'm sure many of you have wondered what a Wolverine tastes like
>>
>> Nope, not really. I don't care to eat relatives of dogs.
>>
>> Jill
>
> And actually a wolverine is a closer relative of ferrets. Not for me!

They're a relative like you are to whales, get real.

> I saw a show about them once where someone raised them from babies.

That's animal abuse for something that wild.

> They were all playful and friendly. They were beloved pets.

That's nuts.

> Someone
> that traps them should get their own foot caught in a trap and wait up
> to 24 hours in pain and terror before some nifty mountain man comes by
> and kills them. and see how they like it. Trapping is evil.

Trapping is legal and trapping is historically sound game management.

> Fur is not so popular anymore.

Then he must not sell much, right?

> People that move out into the
> wilderness and make their money trapping fur animals are just lazy ass
> losers that don't want a real job.

Try it some time and see if you can scratch out a living, you fool.

> I'd like to move out into the
> wilderness and set traps for the trappers.

Of course you would.

Vermin like you are always quick to vanity kill their fellow species.

Something even a wolverine would not do.

> Dumb evil lazy hillbillies
> that needlessly kill cute little furry wildlife. GRRRR! >:-[]
>
> G.

You're a bigot, a fool, and a human-hating sociopath, and that's just
for starters.

On 7/18/2014 12:01 PM, Gary wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:13:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure many of you have wondered what a Wolverine tastes like, but
>>> just never had the chance to try it.
>>>
>>> I watched an episode of Mountain Men on the History Channel. Tom, the
>>> older guy in Montana does some trapping and caught a Wolverine. Not
>>> wanting to waste anything, after taking the pelt his wife cooked it up.
>>> He said it tastes just like Muskrat. So, now you know.
>>
>> Wolverines are nasty-smelling animals. They are also known as "stink
>> bears" or "skunk bears". I'll pass. He could have just thrown the
>> carcass out and some other animal would have enjoyed it - it wouldn't
>> have gone to waste. Then he could have gone out for Whopper with
>> cheese.
>>
>> -sw
>
> They have scent glands but that doesn't taint the meat.

It can, if one isn't good at skinning.

> He could just
> quit trapping these animals.

Or not.

He makes money off it.

> Fur is not all that popular now like it
> was years ago.


Then he must not sell much, right?

Wrong.

> TOM, the mountain man is just a lazy turd that doesn't
> want a real job.

As defined by YOU?

Go drop an 80' ponderosa pine and haul it home a 1/2 mile on a sled.

You're a nothing, an insect man.


> Actually, he does have a real job now...actor for
> Discovery Channel. **** him and all trappers. it's an evil
> occupation. I send all trappers over to Bryan who will come up with
> an appropriate death for these worthless people.
>
> G.

You're a bloodthirsty asshole, aren't you?

Problem is, you go after your own species.

You sick SOB.

On 7/18/2014 12:19 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:13:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm sure many of you have wondered what a Wolverine tastes like, but
>>>> just never had the chance to try it.
>>>>
>>>> I watched an episode of Mountain Men on the History Channel. Tom, the
>>>> older guy in Montana does some trapping and caught a Wolverine. Not
>>>> wanting to waste anything, after taking the pelt his wife cooked it up.
>>>> He said it tastes just like Muskrat. So, now you know.
>>>
>>> Wolverines are nasty-smelling animals. They are also known as "stink
>>> bears" or "skunk bears". I'll pass. He could have just thrown the
>>> carcass out and some other animal would have enjoyed it - it wouldn't
>>> have gone to waste. Then he could have gone out for Whopper with
>>> cheese.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> They have scent glands but that doesn't taint the meat. He could just
>> quit trapping these animals. Fur is not all that popular now like it
>> was years ago. TOM, the mountain man is just a lazy turd that doesn't
>> want a real job. Actually, he does have a real job now...actor for
>> Discovery Channel. **** him and all trappers. it's an evil
>> occupation. I send all trappers over to Bryan who will come up with
>> an appropriate death for these worthless people.
>
>
> Agreed. Trappers are the worst of the worst and that throwback makes me
> want to puke.
>
But you're fine with killing other humans you disagree with, you raving
sociopath.

On 7/18/2014 12:58 PM, Gary wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> I'm sure many of you have wondered what a Wolverine tastes like, but
>> just never had the chance to try it.
>>
>> I watched an episode of Mountain Men on the History Channel. Tom, the
>> older guy in Montana does some trapping and caught a Wolverine. Not
>> wanting to waste anything, after taking the pelt his wife cooked it up.
>> He said it tastes just like Muskrat. So, now you know.
>
> And I hope the next episode of Mountain Men shows a wolverine family
> cooking up some of good ol' Tom who spent the entire night in pain and
> terror in a trap before he was killed and skinned.
>
> G.
>

You ever try to kill another man?

You might find they go down less easily than you imagine, you
sociopathic nut.

On 7/18/2014 1:02 PM, Gary wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>>
>> On 2014-07-18, Paul M. Cook > wrote:
>>
>>> They sure are glorifying the needless slaughter of wildlife on those
>>> shows.
>>
>> Those shows being? Do you actually know of what you speak or do you
>> jes spout tree-hugger platitudes?
>>
>> What "needless slaughter"? Wild pigs have become a plague. We have
>> so many deer in my area, you gotta shoo 'em outta the way to get into
>> a parking space. It's easier to hit one with yer car than get a
>> hunting tag. Flocks of turkeys are walking down the streets of
>> small-town America. Bears are running rampant in large urban
>> centers.
>>
>> What is "needless" is the power of state game agencies to perpetuate
>> themselves into ever growing bureaucracies that survive by legislating
>> game laws that allow wild game numbers to explode beyond control.
>> Reminds me of that FL case where huge numbers of deer were starving to
>> death. Can't issue tags to hunters to reduce the pops, but can
>> certainly allow 'em to die by starvation. Needless slaughter, indeed.
>>
>> nb
>
> And Colorado has too many notbobs. We need to cull them so the rest
> can live.
>
Damn, you're actually in favor of killing your fellow citizens?

Does your local sheriff's department know about you?

On 7/18/2014 1:10 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2014-07-18, Paul M. Cook > wrote:
>
>> Agreed. Trappers are the worst of the worst and that throwback makes me
>> want to puke.
>
> Unlike Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations (CAFO), which treat
> living breathing animals like Nazi death camps. At least a trapped
> animal lives free until it dies. I've no doubt you want to puke. Yer
> one sick puppy. 8|
>
> nb
>
>
He sure is.

On 7/18/2014 1:27 PM, Gary wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>>
>> On 2014-07-18, Paul M. Cook > wrote:
>>
>>> Hunting is blood sport and any ******* who pretends it is for any other
>>> reason is just a bald faced liar.
>>
>> Jes for the record, I don't hunt. But, it's pretty obvious you have
>> serious emotional issues with anything other than factory farming of
>> animals.
>
> What gets me lately is most of these hunting shows...as soon as they
> make a kill, they stand next to the dead animal and go into this
> cutsey speech about how they love the animal and they honor them for
> giving up their life, etc.

Straight from our native American ancestors, yes.


> It's a trophy kill...just for fun and nothing more.

Not so.

The meat gets used or donated to a food bank.

> Sure they will
> take the fur and maybe mount the head to put in their den. Hopefully
> even eat all the meat but they didn't need that meat to survive. The
> cost of the hunting trip was more than the meat value.

So what?

Who are you to determine how a free person spends their money?

> I'm really not against hunting. Some of it needs to be done because
> we've killed off natural predators.
>
> That said, If I was out in the field and my friend just made a kill
> then started spouting all this phoney 'I honor you, Mr.Bear crap', I
> would be tempted to shoot him, gut him and honor his lying ass too.

We get it, you're a blood thirsty sociopath who'd kill his fellow man on
the spot.

Or so you claim, pansy.

> I tried hunting when I was young. The hunt experience is fun but then
> you kill some innocent animal. That's not fun at all. I regret to
> this day the deaths I caused.
>
> G.

I regret you didn't manage to off yourself, you sick sociopath.

Remington 7 wrote:
>
> Pure trophy hunters are rare these days.
>
> In almost every case the meat goes to the local community in 3rd world
> nations, or to a community food bank otherwise.

You're full of shit. If the meat goes elsewhere then the hunters are
pure trophy hunters. They just want the kill and a head to hang on
their wall. Nice if the meat gets used elsewhere but not always with
those people. They will often take the head and the fur and leave all
the meat for other animals to eat.

G.

On 7/18/2014 1:44 PM, Gary wrote:
> "Paul M. Cook" wrote:
>>
>> That is BS. Hunters do not select dying or weak animals. The whole point
>> is to kill the best of the best. Do you want that old deer with bad teeth
>> or that huge 12 pointg buck? Either way your 3,000.00 hunting rifle with
>> telescopic site will pick it off from 100 yards. What a challenge? Een a
>> child can do that.
>>
>> Hunting is the reverse of natural selection. Hunters remove from the gene
>> pool the very animals nature intended to survive. Contrast this to the old
>> way when subsistence hunters killed the easiest animals because it was their
>> meat they wanted not a trophy. Therefore they were acting with nature and
>> extracting animals that were of lesser value to the species' gene pool.
>> This made the animals that much stronger and more able to survive.
>
>
> Well said, Paul!
>
> G.
>
Shut up, sociopath.

On 7/18/2014 2:01 PM, Gary wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>>
>> At least a trapped
>> animal lives free until it dies.
>
> Yeah...in extreme pain and terror until the trapper decides to check
> his traps the next day or two.
>
> G.
>
You think animals raised for commercial slaughter don't see terror?

On 7/18/2014 9:04 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/18/2014 1:22 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>
>>> And why is that chuckle **** out there in the first place? This is 2014
>>> not
>>> 1810. That wolverine is far mor valuable than a couple of Purdue Farms
>>> hens
>>> which can be reproduced by the billions unlike wild creatures which are
>>> being driven to extinction by assholes who kill them for fun and
>>> something
>>> to hang on their wall. That is the point.
>>>
>>
>> He is doing it to earn a livings of sorts. The fur is used for clothing
>> (or something useful) and it was eaten as food. Just like our ancestors
>> did around the world.
>
> He's a lazy SOB and he's better off to the world dead.

How many years have you played God?

> We do not need to
> drive species into extinction to support anachronisms who hate real jobs.

Wolverine aren't extinct.

>> If he was just hanging the head on a wall, I'd agree, but there are still
>> people living on the results of trapping and hunting. If you object, then
>> perhaps everyone should live near a city and work at the factory on the
>> assembly line.
>
> By choice. Not by any necessity. He does not HAVE to live off dead
> wildlife he can go buy farmed sustainable meat 1/2 mile down the road

Not where he lives, you fool.

And it is legal and sound to take natural meat free of antibiotics,
hormones and impure feed.

You're too stupid to know what's in the shrink wrapped kill you wolf
down, sociopath.

>>
>> Do you object to fishing? We've been taking a lot of food from the sea
>> and endangering some species I don't see that much different than taking
>> a deer or moose and feeding the family for a few months. I know in
>> Alaska, if you do take a moose, you must take it all, nothing left behind.
>
> We are endangring ALL fish species.

No, we're not, that's just plain stupid to say.

> And the ocean in general. So what if I
> eat the gills. The last fish in the world will still be dead.

While you're still busy killing off your fellow humans, you sick SOB!

On 7/19/2014 3:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> We are endangring ALL fish species. And the ocean in general. So
>> what if I
>> eat the gills. The last fish in the world will still be dead.
>>
>
> Good reason for all of us to be Vegans.

No, bad reason.

Veganism is incompatible with a great many body and metabolic types and
can result in malnutrition.

Wake up.

On 7/19/2014 3:33 PM, graham wrote:
> On 19/07/2014 3:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>>
>> Good reason for all of us to be Vegans.
>>
> But despite what vegans aver, the vegan diet is *not* healthy. Humans
> are omnivores.
> Graham

That is obvious in our dentician.

On 7/19/2014 6:51 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>> it's an evil
>> >
>> >occupation. I send all trappers over to Bryan who will come up with
>> >
>> >an appropriate death for these worthless people.
>> >
> Each of us have our unique set of talents.

Killing humans is one of yours?

How many have you offed?

On 7/20/2014 7:50 AM, Gary wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:01:46 -0400, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> They have scent glands but that doesn't taint the meat. He could just
>>> quit trapping these animals. Fur is not all that popular now like it
>>> was years ago.
>>
>> Ferret fur is much more in demand. Probably taste better, too.
>
> The last one of mine that died, Jackie last October, had the thickest
> and softest fur of any ferret I've ever known. She had persian cat fur
> in a ferret body. So thick, long, and soft. I often teased her and
> said, "When you die, I'm making a cool pair of gloves out of you." She
> would just look at me and yawn. heheh
>
> I'm sure a ferret probably tastes good to but I'll never know. I don't
> have a new pair of cool gloves either.
>
> G.
>
If you did would it keep the blood of your proposed human kills off your
conscience, let alone your hands?

On 7/20/2014 12:04 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>> notbob wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2014-07-18, Paul M. Cook > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hunting is blood sport and any ******* who pretends it is for any other
>>>> reason is just a bald faced liar.
>>>
>>> Jes for the record, I don't hunt. But, it's pretty obvious you have
>>> serious emotional issues with anything other than factory farming of
>>> animals.
>>
>> What gets me lately is most of these hunting shows...as soon as they
>> make a kill, they stand next to the dead animal and go into this
>> cutsey speech about how they love the animal and they honor them for
>> giving up their life, etc.
>>
>> It's a trophy kill...just for fun and nothing more. Sure they will
>> take the fur and maybe mount the head to put in their den. Hopefully
>> even eat all the meat but they didn't need that meat to survive. The
>> cost of the hunting trip was more than the meat value.
>>
>> I'm really not against hunting. Some of it needs to be done because
>> we've killed off natural predators.
>>
>> That said, If I was out in the field and my friend just made a kill
>> then started spouting all this phoney 'I honor you, Mr.Bear crap', I
>> would be tempted to shoot him, gut him and honor his lying ass too.
>> I tried hunting when I was young. The hunt experience is fun but then
>> you kill some innocent animal. That's not fun at all. I regret to
>> this day the deaths I caused.
>>
>
> When I was a young boy in rural New Hampshire the start of deer season was
> almost a religious experience in my little town. Everyone was excited. I
> was offered the chance top tag along on hunts by sympathetic villagers who
> knew my old man didn't hunt. I never wanted even the experience. It was
> bad enough I'd have to walk home and see skinned and dressed deer hanging
> from hooks under an open garage door. Sure they ate the meat and many
> needed it because it was a poor timber town mostly. But they sure did a lot
> of bragging and I found that appalling. There is a subsistence angle to
> hunting I agree but I can't get over the pleasure aspect.
>

So you propose killing your fellow humans and think that gets you some
kind of sensitivity award?

You're a raving sociopath, period.

Remington 7 wrote:
>
> And there is need when the meat gets eaten and the hide tanned out.
>
> Live with it, pansy.
>
> >> The animal is providing food and clothing. No polyesters were killed in
> >> the filming. No oil was extracted from the earth to make artificial
> >> clothing.

Does anyone here have any animal hides? Not me. No fur coats or any
need for them. We have better coat materials now. And I don't want
some animal fur on my livingroom carpet, nor some head hung on my
wall.

This said.... My problem is with trappers, not hunters in general.
Trappers are the lowest form of human debris.

You go out with a gun, find and animal and kill it quickly. I have no
problem with that.

Trappers, on the other hand, set traps then come back 24-48 hours
later. Meanwhile, those little creatures don't die quickly. They have
their leg crushed in a trap and spend up to 48 hours in pain and agony
until good ol' mr.trapper comes along and kills it. And they are only
doing that for the fur. They might eat some of the meat but don't kid
yourself that it's for food.

That swamp alligator trapping is so evil too. I'd like to kill all of
those inbred swamp hillbillies. How would you like to bite into a
hamburger and find a 3-prongsd hook lodged in your mouth. And then
you have to wait up to 24 hours in pain and terror before some
good-ol-boy shows up to shoot you in the head.

G.

G.

On Monday, July 21, 2014 1:29:32 PM UTC-5, Remington 7 wrote:
> On 7/18/2014 11:52 AM, Gary wrote:
>
> > jmcquown wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> On 7/18/2014 10:13 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> >>> I'm sure many of you have wondered what a Wolverine tastes like
>
> >>
>
> >> Nope, not really. I don't care to eat relatives of dogs.
>
> >>
>
> >> Jill
>
> >
>
> > And actually a wolverine is a closer relative of ferrets. Not for me!
>
>
>
> They're a relative like you are to whales, get real.
>
>
>
> > I saw a show about them once where someone raised them from babies.
>
>
>
> That's animal abuse for something that wild.
>
>
>
> > They were all playful and friendly. They were beloved pets.
>
>
>
> That's nuts.
>
I can tell you this, I woont go ****in with no wolverine. Says here them
sons a bitches preys on porkypines. Any critter ain't skeered a no porkypine
is one I'm steerin a clear a.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine#Behavior
>
> > G.
>
--Bryan

On 7/21/2014 1:34 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Glorifying? Needless slaughter? It must be nice to be so sure of that of
>> which you ignorantly speak.
>> The shows are about a sustenance lifestyle, living mostly off the grid,
>> and how these people earn
>> cash to buy the few things they can't make themselves or produce to eat.
>> It's also nice you have time
>> to watch shows just so you can scoff at them.
>
> Yes and yes. It is amazing how much time I save buying my food at a market
> rather than pretending I have to go and kill wild animals myself.

And it so much easier to download the horror of commercial kill plants
to others so you don't have to see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsEbvwMipJI

>> As for Tom and Nancy trying out wolverine...why not? It might have turned
>> out to be another kind of
>> protein they could preserve to eat when food is scarce.
>
> Why?

Why not?

> They want to pretended to be frontiersman.

There's no pretending at all.

> It is a game they play.

No, it's a life they live.

> They do it for fun not because they have to.

So you have trouble with "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"?

Or just when it rubs your hypocritical hackles the wrong way, sociopath?

On 7/21/2014 10:04 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Oh, I didn't realize, PC, that you knew the Oars personally and know all about their finances.
>
> N.
>

I guess so, give he issued a death sentence for them...

On Monday, July 21, 2014 1:46:16 PM UTC-5, Remington 7 wrote:
> On 7/19/2014 6:51 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> >> it's an evil
>
> >> >
>
> >> >occupation. I send all trappers over to Bryan who will come up with
>
> >> >
>
> >> >an appropriate death for these worthless people.
>
> >> >
>
> > Each of us have our unique set of talents.
>
>
>
> Killing humans is one of yours?
>
>
>
> How many have you offed?

None. WAY too much to lose. I do pretty much agree with you about the
species traitor thing. Killing animals is no big deal, but intentional
infliction of pain is best saved for fellow humans.

--Bryan

On 7/21/2014 10:42 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Oh, I didn't realize, PC, that you knew the Oars personally and know all
>> about their finances.
>
> He can afford a stockpile of weapons, snow mobiles, ATVs, cars, jeeps,
> trucks, a boat.

He doesn't seem to have a "stockpile of weapons" from what I have seen,
mostly one good scoped hunting rifle and a pistol.

I never saw him with a snowmobile(s).

Ditto an ATV.

In fact last episode he hauled 200lbs, of fresh cut logs home on a
plastic sled.

I saw his one truck, it's an old beater Dodge, maybe late 1980s.

His wife has a newer Subaru wagon.

You're just making up lies to sandbag your blood lust for the man.

> He can afford hamburger.

You run his finances too?

> Plus he gets paid to be on TV.

You know his salary?

> He just has chosen to live where he lives and I doubt he has leprosy or
> typhoid either.

Why should he have to?

Are you in charge of who gets to live where in Montana?

> I said it an I will say it again, hunting is a blood sporty and nothing
> else.

You're becoming repetitive, sociopath.

Go kill a few humans and get it out of your system.

> If you can afford the 10 grand or so it takes to bring down an elk
> legally, you have no need to kill anything to feed yourself.

It doesn't cost anywhere near that.

You don't a have a ****ing clue what you're lying about.

> Hunting for pleasure is murder.

So why do you want to murder your fellow human?

You sick SOB!

Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> On Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:50:51 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >
> >
> > The last one of mine that died, Jackie last October, had the thickest
> >
> > and softest fur of any ferret I've ever known. She had persian cat fur
> >
> > in a ferret body. So thick, long, and soft. I often teased her and
> >
> > said, "When you die, I'm making a cool pair of gloves out of you." She
> >
> > would just look at me and yawn. heheh
> >
> >
> > I don't have a new pair of cool gloves either.
> >
> So, you lied to your ferret? Shame on you.

Didn't lie, Bryan. I was joking her and she knew it all along.
I miss her though....died last October.

On 7/21/2014 12:52 PM, Gary wrote:
> Remington 7 wrote:
>>
>> And there is need when the meat gets eaten and the hide tanned out.
>>
>> Live with it, pansy.
>>
>>>> The animal is providing food and clothing. No polyesters were killed in
>>>> the filming. No oil was extracted from the earth to make artificial
>>>> clothing.
>
> Does anyone here have any animal hides?

I might.

> Not me.

Well that's you, not me.

> No fur coats or any need for them.

I wear leathers when I ride because I prefer them to synthetics, ymmv.

Get it?

> We have better coat materials now.

So what?

Leather keeps me from getting road rash.

> And I don't want
> some animal fur on my livingroom carpet, nor some head hung on my
> wall.

Your life, your call.

Get it?

> This said.... My problem is with trappers, not hunters in general.
> Trappers are the lowest form of human debris.

Trapping goes back to the earliest days of our nation.

It is also used to cull destructive varmints.

> You go out with a gun, find and animal and kill it quickly. I have no
> problem with that.

And it's all about you isn't it?

> Trappers, on the other hand, set traps then come back 24-48 hours
> later. Meanwhile, those little creatures don't die quickly.

Some may not.

> They have
> their leg crushed in a trap and spend up to 48 hours in pain and agony
> until good ol' mr.trapper comes along and kills it.

Define "up to".

> And they are only
> doing that for the fur. They might eat some of the meat but don't kid
> yourself that it's for food.

Unless they're short of meat, probably not in most cases.

> That swamp alligator trapping is so evil too. I'd like to kill all of
> those inbred swamp hillbillies.

Yeah, you have whole lots of folks you'd like to kill.

Do you even get what a raving sociopathic hypocrite you are?

I ask because it seems you have no clue at all, killer.

> How would you like to bite into a
> hamburger and find a 3-prongsd hook lodged in your mouth.

How would you like to be herded into a commercial kill plant with a
cattle prod over shit and blood covered floors and then have a kill
stick applied to your head?

> And then
> you have to wait up to 24 hours in pain and terror before some
> good-ol-boy shows up to shoot you in the head.
>
> G.

How long would you let Tom Oar set before you put one through his eyes,
killer?

You are one sick blood thirsty mofo!

Don't even pretend to care about the sanctity of life anymore or tell us
your stupid ferret tales.

You're a killer, the same as you dislike.

You just want to take out your own kind.

Sick.

On 7/21/2014 12:57 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> On Monday, July 21, 2014 1:29:32 PM UTC-5, Remington 7 wrote:
>> On 7/18/2014 11:52 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> On 7/18/2014 10:13 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>>>> I'm sure many of you have wondered what a Wolverine tastes like
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Nope, not really. I don't care to eat relatives of dogs.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Jill
>>
>>>
>>
>>> And actually a wolverine is a closer relative of ferrets. Not for me!
>>
>>
>>
>> They're a relative like you are to whales, get real.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I saw a show about them once where someone raised them from babies.
>>
>>
>>
>> That's animal abuse for something that wild.
>>
>>
>>
>>> They were all playful and friendly. They were beloved pets.
>>
>>
>>
>> That's nuts.
>>
> I can tell you this, I woont go ****in with no wolverine. Says here them
> sons a bitches preys on porkypines. Any critter ain't skeered a no porkypine
> is one I'm steerin a clear a.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine#Behavior

To raise something like that as pet is foolhardy and abuse, period.

You seem to have common sense.

Nancy2 wrote:
>
> Glorifying? Needless slaughter? It must be nice to be so sure of that of which you ignorantly speak.
> The shows are about a sustenance lifestyle, living mostly off the grid, and how these people earn
> cash to buy the few things they can't make themselves or produce to eat. It's also nice you have time
> to watch shows just so you can scoff at them.
>
> As for Tom and Nancy trying out wolverine...why not? It might have turned out to be another kind of
> protein they could preserve to eat when food is scarce.
>
> N.

I'd like to trap Tom, let him suffer in the trap for 24-48 hours, then
shoot him in his bearded head, then feed him to a wolverine family of
6.

G.

On 7/21/2014 1:28 PM, Gary wrote:
> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:50:51 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> The last one of mine that died, Jackie last October, had the thickest
>>>
>>> and softest fur of any ferret I've ever known. She had persian cat fur
>>>
>>> in a ferret body. So thick, long, and soft. I often teased her and
>>>
>>> said, "When you die, I'm making a cool pair of gloves out of you." She
>>>
>>> would just look at me and yawn. heheh
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't have a new pair of cool gloves either.
>>>
>> So, you lied to your ferret? Shame on you.
>
> Didn't lie, Bryan. I was joking her and she knew it all along.
> I miss her though....died last October.
>

Boo hoo.

Go east the pain by killing a mountain man.

You hypocrite sociopath.

On 7/21/2014 1:31 PM, Gary wrote:
> Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>> Glorifying? Needless slaughter? It must be nice to be so sure of that of which you ignorantly speak.
>> The shows are about a sustenance lifestyle, living mostly off the grid, and how these people earn
>> cash to buy the few things they can't make themselves or produce to eat. It's also nice you have time
>> to watch shows just so you can scoff at them.
>>
>> As for Tom and Nancy trying out wolverine...why not? It might have turned out to be another kind of
>> protein they could preserve to eat when food is scarce.
>>
>> N.
>
> I'd like to trap Tom, let him suffer in the trap for 24-48 hours, then
> shoot him in his bearded head, then feed him to a wolverine family of
> 6.
>
> G.

Yeah, we all get what a raving sociopathic killer you really are - you
just prefer to off your fellow humans.

I'd pay good money to see you try and tangle with that tough old bird.

Funny thing is, I wager he'd show you the mercy you'd never even offer him.

You are one sick *******, sick to the core of your evil self.

Remington 7 wrote:
>
> Trapping is legal and trapping is historically sound game management.

It's unnecessary now and an evil way to kill animals. Shoot animals
for game management but not trapping. no.


> You're a bigot, a fool, and a human-hating sociopath, and that's just
> for starters.

And you show up here as total moron. Idiot. Are you Ted N?
I hope you get your foot snapped in a bear trap some day. See how it
feels, pal.

G.