On Sat, 2 Aug 2014 22:03:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I think perhaps the only people who go through withdrawals are those who
> drink tons of coffee. My friend's husband once started making decaf on the
> weekends. She started getting headaches only on weekends. That was why.

Fresh & Easy has a 50-50 coffee that would be perfect for her. BTW
since the Brits slunk back to where they came from, the choices at F&E
are much better. They'll never get me as a regular customer unless
they install regular checkout stands manned by real people - in the
mean time, someone checks my groceries if I buy a bottle of wine (love
their Pebble Bay SB, which is a NZ Marlborough).

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

In article >, says...
>
> "Hypatia Nachshon" > wrote in message

> Hey, ED - HB from you-know-where. Just dropped in here on another mission
> and saw your comment. Allow me to echo it big-time. I wouldn't allow a
> young person, especially a young female, to drink sodas. These girls are
> supposed to be drinking milk and eating yoghurt and cheese to build strong
> bones for childbearing -- according to Nature's plan. Instead, they consume
> horrendous quantities of sugar water drinks. The incidence of EARLY
> osteopenia and even outright osteoporosis in these girls already in their
> early 20's is on a frightening increase. Where are the parents!!!!
>
> HB
>
> ---
>
> Highly disagree on the milk and especially for someone with blood sugar
> issues. Do you have proof of this early osteopenia or osteoporosis? I
> haven't seen any.

http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives...soda-depletes-
calcium-and-may-increase-heart-attack-risk.html

http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/fe...a-osteoporosis

Janet UK

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:33:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> He was my favorite grandfather. We all called him "Pappy."
> Here's a pic of him holding a very young me wearing his hat.
> I wish I had that hat now.
> http://i46.tinypic.com/xm1zxd.jpg

My favorite grandfather was "Pappy" too. Maybe it was a WWII thing.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:26:01 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>
> >
>
> > "Hypatia Nachshon" > wrote in message
>
>
>
> > Hey, ED - HB from you-know-where. Just dropped in here on another mission
>
> > and saw your comment. Allow me to echo it big-time. I wouldn't allow a
>
> > young person, especially a young female, to drink sodas. These girls are
>
> > supposed to be drinking milk and eating yoghurt and cheese to build strong
>
> > bones for childbearing -- according to Nature's plan. Instead, they consume
>
> > horrendous quantities of sugar water drinks. The incidence of EARLY
>
> > osteopenia and even outright osteoporosis in these girls already in their
>
> > early 20's is on a frightening increase. Where are the parents!!!!
>
> >
>
> > HB
>
> >
>
> > ---
>
> >
>
> > Highly disagree on the milk and especially for someone with blood sugar
>
> > issues. Do you have proof of this early osteopenia or osteoporosis? I
>
> > haven't seen any.
>
>
>
> http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives...soda-depletes-
>
> calcium-and-may-increase-heart-attack-risk.html
>
>
>
> http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/fe...a-osteoporosis
>
>
>
> Janet UK

Julie knows more than those two info sources...never argue with her.
Her kid is going to turn out as a maladjusted hop-head if she continues allowing those drinks with added (unnecessary) caffeine.

In article >,
says...
>
> On 8/3/2014 9:28 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> > On 8/2/2014 11:30 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 8/2/2014 6:28 PM, Janet wrote:
> >
> >>> Seattle gets less than half the annual rainfall we do :-)
> >
> >> Nope, you get more but nowhere near double
> >> Seattle got 36" last year
> >> http://average-rainfall.findthebest....tle-Washington
> >>
> >> London 42" (1091 mm)
> >> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/...es/2013/annual
> >>
> > But Janet isn't in London. The northern part of Arran gets 75 inches -
> > more than double the 36" in Seattle.
> >
>
> She signs "UK"

There are several Janets posting to rfc, and we each make an effort to
identify which one is posting. For that reason I sign myself Janet UK
to distinguish myself from Janet US and Janet Wilder. I have, on
numerous occasions, posted that I live in Scotland, on an island, off
the west coast. Our weather blows in straight off 3000 miles of atlantic
ocean; rain and low cloud are normal here. We got 2" of rain yesterday.

Janet UK

In article >,
says...

> It was just a typical kitchen sink type response. Of course, Sheila
> (who travels regularly to the USA) surely understands that.

If Janet
> wanted to discuss the specific weather conditions on the part of Arran
> where her home is located in relationship to Seattle, she would have
> named it.

??? I did, see earlier post .

Too bad you've tripped down your kitchen sink drain, again.

Janet UK

dsi1 wrote:
>
> Scandinavian folks are into being depressed. That's why so many of them
> choose that area to move to. My co-worker said that when the sun came up
> at the University of Washington, classes would be canceled.

Ok...you're just being your funny self there. No university anywhere
would cancel classes because the sun is shining. heheh

G.

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:16:17 -0500, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

> It took place in
> Limerick, Ireland and it rained and rained and rained through the whole
> movie.

I have a t-shirt with the seasons of Ireland that illustrates your
point, but I was in Dublin for one gloriously sunny week.
http://www.kingfishercycletrail.com/...11/seasons.jpg

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:03:26 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
>
> > It was just a typical kitchen sink type response. Of course, Sheila
> > (who travels regularly to the USA) surely understands that.
>
> If Janet
> > wanted to discuss the specific weather conditions on the part of Arran
> > where her home is located in relationship to Seattle, she would have
> > named it.
>
> ??? I did, see earlier post .
>
> Too bad you've tripped down your kitchen sink drain, again.
>
> Janet UK
>
>
It wasn't there when I wrote my post Janet. Get a life.

--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

On 8/3/2014 10:46 AM, sf wrote:
> We're in a drought now (caused by La Niña), so my fog belt isn't as
> socked in as it usually is and it's quite pleasant to be outside even
> on a foggy day; but it will get foggier, colder, windier and wetter
> (headed North from here)


We were in a 4 year drought here until this year. We have had plenty of
rain and instead of the usual mid-summer brown, things are very green
and there are even still wild flowers growing on the sides of the roads
(a legacy from Lady Bird Johnson)

Temperatures have been in the low to mid 90's most of the time and we
haven't had anything even approaching 100 degrees. I've been living
down here 8 years now and this is the best Summer for weather that I
have experienced.

George L

On 8/3/2014 10:56 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On 8/2/2014 6:28 PM, Janet wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What crap. Seattle's at Latitude 46 N, further south than Russia,
>>>>> Scandinavia and the entire UK .
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They do get an inordinate amount of rain up there. I spent two weeks in
>>>> a town outside Seattle and saw the sun for about a total of 9 minutes.
>>>> I could never live there. Very depressing.
>>>
>>> Seattle gets less than half the annual rainfall we do :-)
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Nope, you get more but nowhere near double
>> Seattle got 36" last year
>> http://average-rainfall.findthebest....tle-Washington
>>
>> London 42" (1091 mm)
>> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/...es/2013/annual
>
> only I'm not in London which is one of the drier areas of England. I'm
> on an island off the wet West coast of Scotland . Our rainfall last
> year (here, West Scotland) was over 100 inches last year.
>
>
>> As an information point, neither is as much as New York with 60"
>
> See above
>
>> Total rainfall though, does not tell the whole story. Seattle has light
>> rain over many dismal days.
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Scotland
>
> "Rainfall totals vary widely across Scotland? the western highlands of
> Scotland is one of the wettest places in Europe with annual rainfall up
> to 4,577 mm (180.2 in"..."Scotland lies in the path of eastward-moving
> Atlantic depressions and these bring wind and clouds regularly
> throughout the year."
>
>
> Janet UK
>


Would you please be so kind as to save some of that rain and ship it
over here. Texas is in an awful drought and we would be ever so
grateful for your rain. :-)

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On 8/3/2014 12:59 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:16:17 -0500, Janet Wilder >
> wrote:
>
>> It took place in
>> Limerick, Ireland and it rained and rained and rained through the whole
>> movie.
>
> I have a t-shirt with the seasons of Ireland that illustrates your
> point, but I was in Dublin for one gloriously sunny week.
> http://www.kingfishercycletrail.com/...11/seasons.jpg
>

Cute!

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On 8/3/2014 1:55 PM, George Leppla wrote:
> On 8/3/2014 10:46 AM, sf wrote:
>> We're in a drought now (caused by La Niña), so my fog belt isn't as
>> socked in as it usually is and it's quite pleasant to be outside even
>> on a foggy day; but it will get foggier, colder, windier and wetter
>> (headed North from here)
>
>
> We were in a 4 year drought here until this year. We have had plenty of
> rain and instead of the usual mid-summer brown, things are very green
> and there are even still wild flowers growing on the sides of the roads
> (a legacy from Lady Bird Johnson)
>
> Temperatures have been in the low to mid 90's most of the time and we
> haven't had anything even approaching 100 degrees. I've been living
> down here 8 years now and this is the best Summer for weather that I
> have experienced.
>
> George L


The rain has not reached down here. Some areas had showers yesterday
and today, but they totally missed my house.

It was only 84 at 1 PM which is astounding this time of the year.

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On 8/2/2014 8:51 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:

> Caffeine is not a bad habit, and who goes through withdrawal, or better
> put why go through withdrawal? You start getting a lack of caffeine
> headache, drink a caffeinated beverage, like I am about to right now,
> though the headache I just happen to have probably has little/nothing
> to do with caffeine.
>
> I typed the above a couple of hours ago. No headache. Still no alcohol
> after 22 days. Made naked fried wings for the evening meal, pan fried in
> about 1/2" of sunflower oil.
>
> Got lots of bargains at the church sale today. Johnny went with me.
> Freakin' weird being there, but $10 got us boatloads of goodies.
>
> --Bryan


Had to give up caffeine because it caused retinal migraines, I never had
headaches, but I would temporarily lose eyesight. I went to an
ophthalmologist, because it is scary when you lose eyesight, and he told
me to visit my doctor and she was the one who lowered the boom. What, no
caffeine?!?! <sigh> I gave up caffeine for 11 years, then I drifted back
to it, hoping that my problem was gone. After 2-3 months of drinking
caffeine, the retinal migraines came back. Sonsabitches...

It gave me headaches for 2-3 days, each time I quit using caffeine, but
I was fine after that. George, OTOH, never gets headaches when he gives
up caffeine.

Becca

On 8/2/2014 5:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/2/2014 6:56 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> On 8/2/2014 9:37 AM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps if you lived
>>>> in an area with little sun, you'd feel the same. No sun does make
>>>> you droopy. And mostly we have no sun.
>>>
>>> What crap. Seattle's at Latitude 46 N, further south than Russia,
>>> Scandinavia and the entire UK .
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>
>> They do get an inordinate amount of rain up there. I spent two weeks in
>> a town outside Seattle and saw the sun for about a total of 9 minutes. I
>> could never live there. Very depressing.
>>
>
> Scandinavian folks are into being depressed. That's why so many of them
> choose that area to move to. My co-worker said that when the sun came up
> at the University of Washington, classes would be canceled. My wife used
> to work at Swedish Hospital in Seattle. She said there was underground
> tunnels so that people could move around between buildings while
> avoiding the elements. Now that's damn cool.

Have been to Seattle a couple of times and I did not know they had
underground tunnels. I believe Houston's underground tunnels are
popular for the same reason, to avoid the elements.

http://www.downtownhouston.org/site_..._Below_Map.pdf

Becca

On 8/3/2014 3:13 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 8/3/2014 10:56 AM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 8/2/2014 6:28 PM, Janet wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What crap. Seattle's at Latitude 46 N, further south than
>>>>>> Russia,
>>>>>> Scandinavia and the entire UK .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They do get an inordinate amount of rain up there. I spent two
>>>>> weeks in
>>>>> a town outside Seattle and saw the sun for about a total of 9 minutes.
>>>>> I could never live there. Very depressing.
>>>>
>>>> Seattle gets less than half the annual rainfall we do :-)
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, you get more but nowhere near double
>>> Seattle got 36" last year
>>> http://average-rainfall.findthebest....tle-Washington
>>>
>>> London 42" (1091 mm)
>>> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/...es/2013/annual
>>
>> only I'm not in London which is one of the drier areas of England. I'm
>> on an island off the wet West coast of Scotland . Our rainfall last
>> year (here, West Scotland) was over 100 inches last year.
>>
>>
>>> As an information point, neither is as much as New York with 60"
>>
>> See above
>>
>>> Total rainfall though, does not tell the whole story. Seattle has light
>>> rain over many dismal days.
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Scotland
>>
>> "Rainfall totals vary widely across Scotland? the western highlands of
>> Scotland is one of the wettest places in Europe with annual rainfall up
>> to 4,577 mm (180.2 in"..."Scotland lies in the path of eastward-moving
>> Atlantic depressions and these bring wind and clouds regularly
>> throughout the year."
>>
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>
>
> Would you please be so kind as to save some of that rain and ship it
> over here. Texas is in an awful drought and we would be ever so
> grateful for your rain. :-)

It rained 4.26 inches, between 10:00 and midnight, Friday, but I am not
sure how much rain got after midnight, I didn't look. The meteorologists
say that we are still under drought conditions, but our area is not as
bad as the Valley or San Antonio. You need rain, bad.

Becca

In article m>,
says...
>
> Would you please be so kind as to save some of that rain and ship it
> over here. Texas is in an awful drought and we would be ever so
> grateful for your rain. :-)

First she wants wine, then rain.. I'll send a bottle the same way
:-)

Janet UK

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I do subscribe to the Good Old Days.
>
> Wow! You are familiar with that? It's a cool magazine but I've never
> heard of it until a few days ago.
>
> My cousin wrote an article about our grandfather and they published
> it. He sent me a copy just a few days ago.
>
> If you still have the May/June (2014) issue, turn to page 70. This was
> written by my cousin and it's a short story about my grandfather (on
> my mother's side).
>
> Article is "Sim's Lessons" by Will Ross.
>
> He was my favorite grandfather. We all called him "Pappy."
> Here's a pic of him holding a very young me wearing his hat.
> I wish I had that hat now.
> http://i46.tinypic.com/xm1zxd.jpg
>
> G. :-D

My grandma read it and my parents red it. I am letting my subscription
lapse as I don't care for it as much with the new editor. I no longer have
that copy as I pass my read magazines on to someone else. But I think I
remember it. I also take one called Remembrance but I am letting it lapse
as well.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:33:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> He was my favorite grandfather. We all called him "Pappy."
>> Here's a pic of him holding a very young me wearing his hat.
>> I wish I had that hat now.
>> http://i46.tinypic.com/xm1zxd.jpg
>
> My favorite grandfather was "Pappy" too. Maybe it was a WWII thing.
>
Both of mine were called Mac. Although we kids called them grandpa.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/2/2014 11:30 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/2/2014 6:28 PM, Janet wrote:
>
>>> Seattle gets less than half the annual rainfall we do :-)
>
>> Nope, you get more but nowhere near double
>> Seattle got 36" last year
>> http://average-rainfall.findthebest....tle-Washington
>>
>> London 42" (1091 mm)
>> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/...es/2013/annual
>>
> But Janet isn't in London. The northern part of Arran gets 75 inches -
> more than double the 36" in Seattle.

Could be. But we do get a lot of cloudy or overcast days.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/3/2014 9:28 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 8/2/2014 11:30 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 8/2/2014 6:28 PM, Janet wrote:
>>
>>>> Seattle gets less than half the annual rainfall we do :-)
>>
>>> Nope, you get more but nowhere near double
>>> Seattle got 36" last year
>>> http://average-rainfall.findthebest....tle-Washington
>>>
>>> London 42" (1091 mm)
>>> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/...es/2013/annual
>>>
>> But Janet isn't in London. The northern part of Arran gets 75 inches -
>> more than double the 36" in Seattle.
>>
>
> She signs "UK" and like the US, climate varies with region. More
> important than rainfall is the type of rain and daily cloud cover so her
> statement still does not apply.

Yep. As I said in another reply, the rain I encountered on the East side of
the country seemed far wetter than ours. I guess because more rain fell all
at once and it might not let up for at least an hour. When we get heavy
rain like that, it's usually over in 10-15 minutes if not a lot sooner.

I remember once last year calling the dance studio which is only 6 miles
from me. They had no rain there but here, so much fell at once that we had
severe street flooding. So I called the studio to say that we might be
late. We weren't.

It was more like a *boom*, then nothing. As soon as it could go down the
drain, it was gone.

I also remember from my childhood, going down some patch of freeway where it
always seemed to be raining for a small stretch of it towards the South.

And our house would sometimes have rain in the front yard and not the back
or vice versa.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:03:26 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>
>> > It was just a typical kitchen sink type response. Of course, Sheila
>> > (who travels regularly to the USA) surely understands that.
>>
>> If Janet
>> > wanted to discuss the specific weather conditions on the part of Arran
>> > where her home is located in relationship to Seattle, she would have
>> > named it.
>>
>> ??? I did, see earlier post .
>>
>> Too bad you've tripped down your kitchen sink drain, again.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>>
> It wasn't there when I wrote my post Janet. Get a life.

Hehehehe. She can't help it. All that rain is doing bad stuff to her.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:28:28 -0400, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/2/2014 11:30 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > On 8/2/2014 6:28 PM, Janet wrote:
>>
>> >> Seattle gets less than half the annual rainfall we do :-)
>>
>> > Nope, you get more but nowhere near double
>> > Seattle got 36" last year
>> > http://average-rainfall.findthebest....tle-Washington
>> >
>> > London 42" (1091 mm)
>> > http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/...es/2013/annual
>> >
>> But Janet isn't in London. The northern part of Arran gets 75 inches -
>> more than double the 36" in Seattle.
>
> This isn't a ****ing contest about rainfall. The concept is easy
> enough to understand: as many days as Seattle gets that are overcast
> (which is what Julie was talking about) means there is year 'round
> Seasonal Affective Disorder. Most cases are mild and they use coffee
> to combat it when they should be taking mega doses of Vit D.
> http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...and-depression
>
> We're in a drought now (caused by La Niña), so my fog belt isn't as
> socked in as it usually is and it's quite pleasant to be outside even
> on a foggy day; but it will get foggier, colder, windier and wetter
> (headed North from here) +there will be lots of mud slides and
> flooding when we have another El Niño weather condition. Hopefully it
> will manifest for winter 2014 because we had precious little snowfall
> in the mountains last winter and my City's water supply depends on
> mountain water run off.
> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...hange-la-nina/
>
> What El Niño means for Europe
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudso...ct-our-climate
>

We've had very dry weather here too. Yesterdays rain didn't amount to
anything. This is the first summer that I've watered my lawn for several
days running. Prior, I just let it go or maybe watered once or twice. I
also checked to see how this affected my bill because they are now
penalizing us for using too much and giving us lower rates for conserving.
As it turned out, we used just under what is average.

They also stopped with the assigned days for using the hose. They said they
found that water usage actually went down after they stopped doing this!
They said that when people had assigned days, they felt compelled to use the
hose whether they needed it or not.

Today is quite warm and yet it's still not full on sunny. And I can
remember a few days earlier in the summer where it was so dark outside that
it appeared to be night. But it was afternoon. All because it was so very
cloudy. And yet still no rain.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2014 22:31:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I do know
>> plenty of people here who complain of the sun. One gets migraines when
>> the
>> sun is out.
>
> That's probably caused by glare & eye strain, so the person should
> invest in better sunglasses.
>
Can't really wear those indoors. She gets the headaches at work from sun
coming through the window. There is a blind on it but with kids playing
with the blind, sometimes sun gets through.

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Hypatia Nachshon" > wrote in message
>
>> Hey, ED - HB from you-know-where. Just dropped in here on another
>> mission
>> and saw your comment. Allow me to echo it big-time. I wouldn't allow a
>> young person, especially a young female, to drink sodas. These girls are
>> supposed to be drinking milk and eating yoghurt and cheese to build
>> strong
>> bones for childbearing -- according to Nature's plan. Instead, they
>> consume
>> horrendous quantities of sugar water drinks. The incidence of EARLY
>> osteopenia and even outright osteoporosis in these girls already in their
>> early 20's is on a frightening increase. Where are the parents!!!!
>>
>> HB
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Highly disagree on the milk and especially for someone with blood sugar
>> issues. Do you have proof of this early osteopenia or osteoporosis? I
>> haven't seen any.
>
> http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives...soda-depletes-
> calcium-and-may-increase-heart-attack-risk.html
>
> http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/fe...a-osteoporosis
>
> Janet UK
*Fail*

Those links say nothing about EARLY. Do you read links before you post
them? My dad had osteoporosis. Yeah, he drank diet soda but he also took
some meds that could have caused it. My friend's mom who never drank soda
of any kind had osteoporosis. My mom, my elderly friend and other people I
know who are older than me drink soda, diet or otherwise and do not have it.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...

> Julie knows more than those two info sources...never argue with her.
> Her kid is going to turn out as a maladjusted hop-head if she continues
> allowing those drinks with added (unnecessary) caffeine.

I'm not worried. She has already had a bone density scan and all is fine.
We may both of us have other medical issues that I won't get into here. We
were tested for this last week and are awaiting results. And no, I didn't
go to a quack or Dr. shop or ask for the test to be done. There are real
reasons why it was done and real reasons why I won't get into that here.

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/2/2014 5:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 8/2/2014 6:56 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> On 8/2/2014 9:37 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>> In article >, says...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps if you lived
>>>>> in an area with little sun, you'd feel the same. No sun does make
>>>>> you droopy. And mostly we have no sun.
>>>>
>>>> What crap. Seattle's at Latitude 46 N, further south than Russia,
>>>> Scandinavia and the entire UK .
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>
>>> They do get an inordinate amount of rain up there. I spent two weeks in
>>> a town outside Seattle and saw the sun for about a total of 9 minutes. I
>>> could never live there. Very depressing.
>>>
>>
>> Scandinavian folks are into being depressed. That's why so many of them
>> choose that area to move to. My co-worker said that when the sun came up
>> at the University of Washington, classes would be canceled. My wife used
>> to work at Swedish Hospital in Seattle. She said there was underground
>> tunnels so that people could move around between buildings while
>> avoiding the elements. Now that's damn cool.
>
> Have been to Seattle a couple of times and I did not know they had
> underground tunnels. I believe Houston's underground tunnels are popular
> for the same reason, to avoid the elements.
>
> http://www.downtownhouston.org/site_..._Below_Map.pdf
>
I don't think we have a lot of them but we do have a few.

On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:34:50 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 2 Aug 2014 22:31:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I do know
> >> plenty of people here who complain of the sun. One gets migraines when
> >> the sun is out.
> >
> > That's probably caused by glare & eye strain, so the person should
> > invest in better sunglasses.
> >
> Can't really wear those indoors. She gets the headaches at work from sun
> coming through the window. There is a blind on it but with kids playing
> with the blind, sometimes sun gets through.

She can get those lenses that are clear under normal conditions and
darken as it gets brighter. I would also make sure I wasn't facing
the glare. She can certain get accommodations for the problem from
her employer.


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On 8/3/2014 9:33 AM, Gary wrote:

> He was my favorite grandfather. We all called him "Pappy."
> Here's a pic of him holding a very young me wearing his hat.
> I wish I had that hat now.
> http://i46.tinypic.com/xm1zxd.jpg

Awww, you were adorable!

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On 8/3/2014 4:23 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
> On 8/2/2014 5:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 8/2/2014 6:56 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> On 8/2/2014 9:37 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>> In article >, says...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps if you lived
>>>>> in an area with little sun, you'd feel the same. No sun does make
>>>>> you droopy. And mostly we have no sun.
>>>>
>>>> What crap. Seattle's at Latitude 46 N, further south than Russia,
>>>> Scandinavia and the entire UK .
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>
>>> They do get an inordinate amount of rain up there. I spent two weeks in
>>> a town outside Seattle and saw the sun for about a total of 9 minutes. I
>>> could never live there. Very depressing.
>>>
>>
>> Scandinavian folks are into being depressed. That's why so many of them
>> choose that area to move to. My co-worker said that when the sun came up
>> at the University of Washington, classes would be canceled. My wife used
>> to work at Swedish Hospital in Seattle. She said there was underground
>> tunnels so that people could move around between buildings while
>> avoiding the elements. Now that's damn cool.
>
> Have been to Seattle a couple of times and I did not know they had
> underground tunnels. I believe Houston's underground tunnels are
> popular for the same reason, to avoid the elements.
>
> http://www.downtownhouston.org/site_..._Below_Map.pdf
>
>
> Becca

There used to be an Underground Seattle in the heart of the downtown and
you could take tours of it. Really interesting and quite old. The
properties would flood so they built the town on top of the old town.

I think I read that much of it was destroyed in a recent earthquake.

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From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On 8/3/2014 5:07 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article m>,
> says...
>>
>> Would you please be so kind as to save some of that rain and ship it
>> over here. Texas is in an awful drought and we would be ever so
>> grateful for your rain. :-)
>
> First she wants wine, then rain.. I'll send a bottle the same way
> :-)
>
> Janet UK
>
>
>
I'll go down to the ocean and look for it.

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On 2014-08-03 18:43, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Julie knows more than those two info sources...never argue with her.
>> Her kid is going to turn out as a maladjusted hop-head if she
>> continues allowing those drinks with added (unnecessary) caffeine.
>
> I'm not worried. She has already had a bone density scan and all is
> fine.

Bullshit. Teens don't get bone density scans unless they already have a
problem.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 8/3/2014 9:33 AM, Gary wrote:
>
>> He was my favorite grandfather. We all called him "Pappy."
>> Here's a pic of him holding a very young me wearing his hat.
>> I wish I had that hat now.
>> http://i46.tinypic.com/xm1zxd.jpg
>
> Awww, you were adorable!

Yes!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:34:50 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 2 Aug 2014 22:31:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I do know
>> >> plenty of people here who complain of the sun. One gets migraines
>> >> when
>> >> the sun is out.
>> >
>> > That's probably caused by glare & eye strain, so the person should
>> > invest in better sunglasses.
>> >
>> Can't really wear those indoors. She gets the headaches at work from sun
>> coming through the window. There is a blind on it but with kids playing
>> with the blind, sometimes sun gets through.
>
> She can get those lenses that are clear under normal conditions and
> darken as it gets brighter. I would also make sure I wasn't facing
> the glare. She can certain get accommodations for the problem from
> her employer.

No and no. She works at the dance studio and they've done all that they can
do. And she doesn't normally wear glasses but sometimes she wears OTC
reading ones. This studio is better than the other one. Eventually they
put tint on the windows there but prior, it could get quite nasty when the
sun came in.

On 8/3/2014 8:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-08-03 18:43, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Julie knows more than those two info sources...never argue with her.
>>> Her kid is going to turn out as a maladjusted hop-head if she
>>> continues allowing those drinks with added (unnecessary) caffeine.
>>
>> I'm not worried. She has already had a bone density scan and all is
>> fine.
>
> Bullshit. Teens don't get bone density scans unless they already have a
> problem.
>
>
>
>
>
That was my thought, as well. I didn't start getting them until I was
in my 50's and I'm a classic physique for osteoporosis.

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On 2014-08-04 9:27 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 8/3/2014 8:16 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2014-08-03 18:43, Julie Bove wrote:

>>> I'm not worried. She has already had a bone density scan and all is
>>> fine.
>>
>> Bullshit. Teens don't get bone density scans unless they already have a
>> problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> That was my thought, as well. I didn't start getting them until I was
> in my 50's and I'm a classic physique for osteoporosis.
>

Exactly. There is no reason for a teenager to have a bone density scan.
Having seen a picture of the Bovette, I would say the only special
medical test equipment she needs is a scale.

On 8/3/2014 1:35 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> You don't know how it is *here*. You can go on and on about your area.
> Doesn't mean that *this* area is the same. If indeed you are from
> Chicago, we are very much different here than there.

You can't blame the Bothell school district (or homework) for your
daughter being allowed to drink (ONLY 2 oz! per day) "energy drinks".

Don't blame living in the Seattle area, either. Just because other
parents let their kids drink things like coffee doesn't make it a good idea.

Did you ever hear the expression "If everyone else jumped off a bridge,
would you"? Please don't encourage her to jump.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/3/2014 1:35 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> You don't know how it is *here*. You can go on and on about your area.
>> Doesn't mean that *this* area is the same. If indeed you are from
>> Chicago, we are very much different here than there.
>
> You can't blame the Bothell school district (or homework) for your
> daughter being allowed to drink (ONLY 2 oz! per day) "energy drinks".

What? What in the hell are you talking about? School isn't running now and
*I* told her she could only have 2 oz. and no more.
>
> Don't blame living in the Seattle area, either. Just because other
> parents let their kids drink things like coffee doesn't make it a good
> idea.
>
Oh just shut up. As I said... *I* drank coffee with I was 15. All of my
friends did. There is nothing wrong with coffee and in fact it has great
health benefits.

> Did you ever hear the expression "If everyone else jumped off a bridge,
> would you"? Please don't encourage her to jump.

You act like we are doing something abnormal. It's not illegal, it's not
immoral and it's not even fattening. Why don't you go off to the club and
see what's on a Kaiser roll today?

On 8/4/2014 4:19 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Did you ever hear the expression "If everyone else jumped off a
>> bridge, would you"? Please don't encourage her to jump.
>
> You act like we are doing something abnormal. It's not illegal, it's
> not immoral and it's not even fattening. Why don't you go off to the
> club and see what's on a Kaiser roll today?

LOL!

On 8/3/2014 1:09 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> Today is the start of Seafair. That's a big boat type celebration for
> those who are not here.

Do you mean... deceased? Died at sea or during a war?

> There's a parade, U boat races

That's going way back.

> the Blue Angels (airplanes). We were predicted to have hotter than
> usual weather and no chance of participation. So when the hail and
> thunder began, people assumed it was the Blue Angels as they can be very
> loud when they fly overhead.
>
> I had just stepped out of the shower and at first thought the shower had
> developed a leak.

Of course. It must be a leak in the plumbing. Because rushing water
sounds like jets.

Sorry, but there is no way you can mistake jet planes flying overhead
for plumbing problems. Or hail. Not if you know what jets sound like.

Where I live "here" they're flying over from MCAS pretty regularly.
I've learned to tune them out. But I can sure tell the difference
between rain, hail, plumbing problems and jets.

Jill