On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:42:01 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification, Janet. I don't take any prescription
> medications but the pill organizer worked for my mother. She also
> stored her pill bottles in the kitchen, but not above the stove. She
> couldn't have reached them! I guess it depends on your kitchen layout.

I'd try storing them in a hall linen closet. but if I had as many as
she says she has - I'd probably have someone make me a multiple shelf
storage unit located between two studs.

http://www.familyhandyman.com/woodwo...31 896.243988


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On 8/9/2014 7:03 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:28:32 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty ignorant about those things. I grew up using one of those
>> little hibachis. Now that's what I call "Mickey Mouse."
>
> I think a hibachi was the introduction that most people our age (on
> the West Coast and Hawaii) had to barbecuing. I know it was mine and
> most of my friends who are natives. It fit neatly on apartment fire
> escapes and lived there with our plants. Fire escapes were the poor
> man's balcony back in the day.
>
>

We got a pretty big lanai off our bedroom but we can't even have a
little hibachi fire. What a world!

On 8/9/2014 7:20 PM, sf wrote:
>
> Ditto. Total power use for gas and electric averages around $120 in
> the summer and it climbs to around $200 in the winter (because it's
> colder, so we use the furnace more and the days are shorter, so we use
> more electricity). Of course, rates keep climbing - so as we try to
> use less, it seems our bills remain the same or we are charged more.
> Our electric usage did drop dramatically when we switched the cooktop
> over to gas, but like I said - rates keep climbing.

30 bucks for electricity sounds like a long time ago in a land far, far,
away.

>
> I remember we were in a second floor apartment when we were first
> married and we paid whatever the minimum rate for PG&E was at the time
> (less than $10) even though the kitchen was all electric. We rarely
> turned the heat on (sandwiched like that) and it was a corner unit, so
> there was lots of natural light. It was my favorite place ever. It
> had a roomy balcony, so I put the table out there and we ate all of
> our meals outside unless it was the middle of winter (when I moved the
> table inside the sliding glass doors).
>
>
Our first place was like heaven too. We were on the top floor and if you
opened the front door and back lanai, the breeze would move right
through the place - natural AC. The elevator was next to our unit and
our parking space was next to the elevator. It was a wonderful setup.
I'd go into the stairwell next to our door and play guitar. What a time
that was - the 70s.

On 8/9/2014 9:03 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> True... but with an organizer they don't have to be stored in the
> kitchen. I'm (hoping) guessing she might have a cabinet in the
> bathroom, or at least a bathroom counter where the actual medicine
> bottles could go.

As with every other room in my house, the bathroom is tiny and has
precious little space for as many meds and supplements. The supplements
take up the most space, with the calcium and fish oil bottles being the
largest. I saw one of those "as seen on TV" organizers for spices and I
think something like that would be perfect. I do have one of those
weekly med organizers, and should actually use it.

While looking for the storage system I saw, I found this. If I were in
the market for actual spice storage, I'd love this!
http://www.freshfinds.com/product/au...e-spice-racks/

But, this was the one I saw and liked the idea for medications and
supplements. It's a little pricey but a good idea for making something
myself.

<http://www.hsn.com/products/spicy-shelf-set-of-4-spice-racks/7474046?sz=5&sf=QC0273&ac=&cm_mmc=Shopping%20Engin e-_-PLA-_-Kitchen%20and%20Food-_-7474046&channel=Froogle&mr:referralID=07744fc0-2088-11e4-92a4-001b2166becc>

Or tiny:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/p5cws6u

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:42:01 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the clarification, Janet. I don't take any prescription
>> medications but the pill organizer worked for my mother. She also
>> stored her pill bottles in the kitchen, but not above the stove. She
>> couldn't have reached them! I guess it depends on your kitchen layout.
>
> I'd try storing them in a hall linen closet. but if I had as many as
> she says she has - I'd probably have someone make me a multiple shelf
> storage unit located between two studs.
>
> http://www.familyhandyman.com/woodwo...31 896.243988

I have a lot of meds too which I keep in the bedroom. I use two drawers and
a basket in the bottom of a wardrobe.

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On 8/8/2014 6:12 PM, wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Aug 2014 18:08:16 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>>
>> Nothing
>
> FOAD idiot !
>
Funny how he babbles on at times, and this time for something you don't
even want. Why people seem to have to "force" their preferences on
others I'll never understand.

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Cheryl

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I have a lot of meds too which I keep in the bedroom. I use two drawers and
> a basket in the bottom of a wardrobe.

Yikes! Two drawers and a basket just for your meds? >;-[] arrggh!

G.

On 8/10/2014 8:26 AM, wrote:

> Have you seen these ? There are all sorts of variants, this is just
> one
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Over-The-Door-...5M8T3ZEZHQ9 4

Thanks! I have a mini version of that on the inside of the door of one
cabinet for spices. The shelves aren't wide enough for supplement
bottles, but it gives me more options to look into. Thanks for the link!

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Cheryl

On 8/10/2014 12:03 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:28:32 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty ignorant about those things. I grew up using one of those
>> little hibachis. Now that's what I call "Mickey Mouse."
>
> I think a hibachi was the introduction that most people our age (on
> the West Coast and Hawaii) had to barbecuing. I know it was mine and
> most of my friends who are natives. It fit neatly on apartment fire
> escapes and lived there with our plants. Fire escapes were the poor
> man's balcony back in the day.
>
>
We East Coasters had our hibachis, too. Our apartments did have a
balcony.

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On 8/10/2014 6:04 AM, wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:28:32 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> I'm pretty ignorant about those things. I grew up using one of those
>> little hibachis. Now that's what I call "Mickey Mouse."
>
> Lol I just retired my double hibachi yesterday. I switched to a
> portable camping propane bbq. My SIL called to advise me it was on
> sale, that they had been using one and it was great, so $29 made the
> conversion.
>
> I found that it became too much hassle to drag out the charcoal etc.
> It certainly cooked a nice hamburger yesterday and today I will test
> it on a nice strip loin
>
We have been carrying those little portable gas grills around in our RVs
for decades. We buy the least expensive ones and they last several
years, then, when they aren't working any longer, we buy a new one.
Over the nearly 30 years of RVing, we've had three.

When we would travel in the RV, our dinner would be a protein cooked on
that little grill along with a big salad and nuked veggies.

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On 8/10/2014 7:57 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:42:01 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the clarification, Janet. I don't take any prescription
>>> medications but the pill organizer worked for my mother. She also
>>> stored her pill bottles in the kitchen, but not above the stove. She
>>> couldn't have reached them! I guess it depends on your kitchen layout.
>>
>> I'd try storing them in a hall linen closet. but if I had as many as
>> she says she has - I'd probably have someone make me a multiple shelf
>> storage unit located between two studs.
>>
>> http://www.familyhandyman.com/woodwo...31 896.243988
>>
>
> I have a lot of meds too which I keep in the bedroom. I use two drawers
> and a basket in the bottom of a wardrobe.
>


My mother took tons of drugs. She had a little train case, you know
those old-fashioned small suitcases with the handle on the top, and she
kept all her drugs in there.

Barry had an entire shelf in the cabinet in the bathroom on the inside wall.

Right now I have some lined up on my night stand for chemo side-effects.
I also use the daily pill cases as I take a lot of supplements.

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On 8/10/2014 3:39 AM, dsi1 wrote:

>>
>
> We got a pretty big lanai off our bedroom but we can't even have a
> little hibachi fire. What a world!

If it is wood or other flammable material it makes sense. Lots of houses
go up in flames every year from grills. both gas and charcoal.

On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:39:57 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> On 8/9/2014 7:03 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:28:32 -1000, dsi1
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm pretty ignorant about those things. I grew up using one of those
> >> little hibachis. Now that's what I call "Mickey Mouse."
> >
> > I think a hibachi was the introduction that most people our age (on
> > the West Coast and Hawaii) had to barbecuing. I know it was mine and
> > most of my friends who are natives. It fit neatly on apartment fire
> > escapes and lived there with our plants. Fire escapes were the poor
> > man's balcony back in the day.
> >
> >
>
> We got a pretty big lanai off our bedroom but we can't even have a
> little hibachi fire. What a world!

I doubt anyone could use a hibachi on a fire escape anymore! Glad I
own my own home and can do what I want.


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Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 8/10/2014 3:39 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >>
> >
> > We got a pretty big lanai off our bedroom but we can't even have a
> > little hibachi fire. What a world!
>
> If it is wood or other flammable material it makes sense. Lots of houses
> go up in flames every year from grills. both gas and charcoal.

In Virginia, it is illegal now to grill on a balcony for all
apartments and condos. Too many fires started from the usual wooden
ones, I guess. My balcony is all concrete and brick but it still
falls under the law for no grilling. I just do pan frying and oven
baking now. The one thing I do miss is the grilled to blackened
chicken with bbq sauce.

G.

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
b.com...
> On 8/10/2014 7:57 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:42:01 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the clarification, Janet. I don't take any prescription
>>>> medications but the pill organizer worked for my mother. She also
>>>> stored her pill bottles in the kitchen, but not above the stove. She
>>>> couldn't have reached them! I guess it depends on your kitchen layout.
>>>
>>> I'd try storing them in a hall linen closet. but if I had as many as
>>> she says she has - I'd probably have someone make me a multiple shelf
>>> storage unit located between two studs.
>>>
>>> http://www.familyhandyman.com/woodwo...31 896.243988
>>>
>>
>> I have a lot of meds too which I keep in the bedroom. I use two drawers
>> and a basket in the bottom of a wardrobe.
>>
>
>
> My mother took tons of drugs. She had a little train case, you know those
> old-fashioned small suitcases with the handle on the top, and she kept all
> her drugs in there.
>
> Barry had an entire shelf in the cabinet in the bathroom on the inside
> wall.
>
> Right now I have some lined up on my night stand for chemo side-effects. I
> also use the daily pill cases as I take a lot of supplements

Aye they take space and they need the right environments for safety

My bulkiest items are the boxes of nebules and my nebuliser.


--
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On 8/10/2014 11:02 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/10/2014 3:39 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> We got a pretty big lanai off our bedroom but we can't even have a
>> little hibachi fire. What a world!
>
> If it is wood or other flammable material it makes sense. Lots of houses
> go up in flames every year from grills. both gas and charcoal.

Many years ago I lived in a 2nd floor apartment with a *wooden*
balcony. The man who lived on the ground floor unit below had a fenced
patio which was slightly larger than my balcony. He had four teenage
children who visited on weekends. One day his son decided he'd surprise
his dad (before he got home) by starting dinner on the grill. He lit
the coals, then went back inside and got distracted. I walked out my
door to find flames shooting up from the grill below. I ran downstairs
and pounded on the door. What the heck are you trying to do, set the
building on fire?!! So yes, it makes sense not to have grills (even a
small hibachi) in certain settings. It's also probably against fire code.

Jill

On 8/10/2014 1:04 AM, wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:28:32 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> I'm pretty ignorant about those things. I grew up using one of those
>> little hibachis. Now that's what I call "Mickey Mouse."
>
> Lol I just retired my double hibachi yesterday. I switched to a
> portable camping propane bbq. My SIL called to advise me it was on
> sale, that they had been using one and it was great, so $29 made the
> conversion.
>
> I found that it became too much hassle to drag out the charcoal etc.
> It certainly cooked a nice hamburger yesterday and today I will test
> it on a nice strip loin
>

I haven't fired up a hibachi in over a decade. We have a big bottle of
charcoal lighter that's been sitting and waiting for it's day but that
day might never come. It's a sad sight. I've always enjoyed assembling
those crude things. They were made in the most primitive way out of
awful, crudely cast, materials but they worked great until they
self-destructed in the elements.

Culturally speaking, the local folks don't go for the big setups that
they have on the mainland. We grill thin meats that don't require a lot
of time. We're too hungry to wait. :-)

On 8/10/2014 5:02 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/10/2014 3:39 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> We got a pretty big lanai off our bedroom but we can't even have a
>> little hibachi fire. What a world!
>
> If it is wood or other flammable material it makes sense. Lots of houses
> go up in flames every year from grills. both gas and charcoal.

My guess is that it's because neighbors in condos will no longer
tolerate other people creating smoke. I don't have any problem with
smoke. I can just close the windows. Cooking on your lanai used to be ok
years ago but these days, people are always trying to get into other
people's business.

My wife just hates how our pot smoking neighbors partakes in the
evenings and stinks up our place. I don't care for it either but my
feeling is that people have to learn to live together and what can I do
anyway - nark on them?

On 8/10/2014 5:27 AM, sf wrote:
>
> I doubt anyone could use a hibachi on a fire escape anymore! Glad I
> own my own home and can do what I want.
>
>

Doing anything that you want is a great position to be in.

On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:54:19 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> It's also probably against fire code.

I think it has always been against code, but not as well enforced.
Also, other residents of the building want to keep their windows open
and not smell the smoke - especially when pyromaniacs like that kid
have a hand in getting the bbq started.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On 8/10/2014 6:33 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:54:19 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> It's also probably against fire code.
>
> I think it has always been against code, but not as well enforced.
> Also, other residents of the building want to keep their windows open
> and not smell the smoke - especially when pyromaniacs like that kid
> have a hand in getting the bbq started.
>
>

Like most guys, I like to play with fire so it's probably a good idea to
ban fires on lanais.

A few years ago, there was a craze in Japan to have a hibachi party in
your car. Mostly teens and young adults would have suicide pacts and 2
or 3 of them would start a hibachi fire in a car and die from CO
poisoning. Recreational suicide as a fad has quelled some but hibachi
suicide is probably still a popular method in Asia. I think they even
have warning labels on charcoal bags. It'll never be a very popular
method on the US because American grills just won't fit.

On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:08:35 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>
> A few years ago, there was a craze in Japan to have a hibachi party in
> your car. Mostly teens and young adults would have suicide pacts and 2
> or 3 of them would start a hibachi fire in a car and die from CO
> poisoning. Recreational suicide as a fad has quelled some but hibachi
> suicide is probably still a popular method in Asia. I think they even
> have warning labels on charcoal bags. It'll never be a very popular
> method on the US because American grills just won't fit.

It's a very sad commentary when groups of young people are so stressed
and depressed that they feel the need to commit suicide en mass.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On 8/10/2014 8:09 AM, wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 05:55:17 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/10/2014 1:04 AM, wrote:
>>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:28:32 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty ignorant about those things. I grew up using one of those
>>>> little hibachis. Now that's what I call "Mickey Mouse."
>>>
>>> Lol I just retired my double hibachi yesterday. I switched to a
>>> portable camping propane bbq. My SIL called to advise me it was on
>>> sale, that they had been using one and it was great, so $29 made the
>>> conversion.
>>>
>>> I found that it became too much hassle to drag out the charcoal etc.
>>> It certainly cooked a nice hamburger yesterday and today I will test
>>> it on a nice strip loin
>>>
>>
>> I haven't fired up a hibachi in over a decade. We have a big bottle of
>> charcoal lighter that's been sitting and waiting for it's day but that
>> day might never come. It's a sad sight. I've always enjoyed assembling
>> those crude things. They were made in the most primitive way out of
>> awful, crudely cast, materials but they worked great until they
>> self-destructed in the elements.
>>
>> Culturally speaking, the local folks don't go for the big setups that
>> they have on the mainland. We grill thin meats that don't require a lot
>> of time. We're too hungry to wait. :-)
>
> Urggh I didn't use charcoal lighter - I had a chimney in which you put
> the charcoal, I used real not those briquet thingies. Then you screw
> up a piece of paper, place it under the chimney and light. Physics
> makes the charcoal light and become very hot, very fast.

Using a chimney for the charcoal is the way that a Boy Scout would do.
It might be in their manual. It's a pretty amazing and efficient gadget
- you could light up your charcoal fast with a single page of newspaper
or a few twigs. I wanted to make one with a big can of juice when I was
a kid but never got around to do it. No matter, I like fire and lighter
fluid adds a nice dynamic touch. Sometimes I'd use an industrial torch
that my dad had. That would be my favorite way to start charcoal but
these days, a chimney would be okay with me.

>
> My kids all have big bbqs so I slake any bbq appetite at their places.
> Mine is just for the odd hamburger or steak.
>

On 8/10/2014 8:15 AM, wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:07:28 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/10/2014 5:02 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 8/10/2014 3:39 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We got a pretty big lanai off our bedroom but we can't even have a
>>>> little hibachi fire. What a world!
>>>
>>> If it is wood or other flammable material it makes sense. Lots of houses
>>> go up in flames every year from grills. both gas and charcoal.
>>
>> My guess is that it's because neighbors in condos will no longer
>> tolerate other people creating smoke. I don't have any problem with
>> smoke. I can just close the windows. Cooking on your lanai used to be ok
>> years ago but these days, people are always trying to get into other
>> people's business.
>>
>> My wife just hates how our pot smoking neighbors partakes in the
>> evenings and stinks up our place. I don't care for it either but my
>> feeling is that people have to learn to live together and what can I do
>> anyway - nark on them?
>
> My neighbour always damn well bbqs something that smells gd tasty on
> evenings when I was just going to have a sandwich or something boring
>
>

I'd take barbecue smoke over pot smoke any day. That's what I get for
not being a pothead.

On 8/10/2014 2:26 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/10/2014 8:15 AM, wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:07:28 -1000, dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/10/2014 5:02 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 8/10/2014 3:39 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We got a pretty big lanai off our bedroom but we can't even have a
>>>>> little hibachi fire. What a world!
>>>>
>>>> If it is wood or other flammable material it makes sense. Lots of
>>>> houses
>>>> go up in flames every year from grills. both gas and charcoal.
>>>
>>> My guess is that it's because neighbors in condos will no longer
>>> tolerate other people creating smoke. I don't have any problem with
>>> smoke. I can just close the windows. Cooking on your lanai used to be ok
>>> years ago but these days, people are always trying to get into other
>>> people's business.
>>>
>>> My wife just hates how our pot smoking neighbors partakes in the
>>> evenings and stinks up our place. I don't care for it either but my
>>> feeling is that people have to learn to live together and what can I do
>>> anyway - nark on them?
>>
>> My neighbour always damn well bbqs something that smells gd tasty on
>> evenings when I was just going to have a sandwich or something boring
>>
>>
>
> I'd take barbecue smoke over pot smoke any day. That's what I get for
> not being a pothead.


Are those the only two choices?

On 8/10/2014 8:35 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:08:35 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> A few years ago, there was a craze in Japan to have a hibachi party in
>> your car. Mostly teens and young adults would have suicide pacts and 2
>> or 3 of them would start a hibachi fire in a car and die from CO
>> poisoning. Recreational suicide as a fad has quelled some but hibachi
>> suicide is probably still a popular method in Asia. I think they even
>> have warning labels on charcoal bags. It'll never be a very popular
>> method on the US because American grills just won't fit.
>
> It's a very sad commentary when groups of young people are so stressed
> and depressed that they feel the need to commit suicide en mass.
>
>

They're raised in a culture that doesn't view suicide the way we do. The
older generations consider it a way to save face and atone for your
wrongdoings. It's origins probably dates back to the warrior code of the
samurais which was really of a tool of the warlords as a way of keeping
their troops in line and loyal to their family. These days it's not
unusual for disgraced Japan politicians to kill themselves to rectify
being caught in the act. It's a practice that I wish our elected
officials would adopt. :-)

The younger generation probably kill themselves because they feel
alienated in a society that stresses uniformity and unity.

On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:30:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 8/10/2014 3:39 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >
>> > We got a pretty big lanai off our bedroom but we can't even have a
>> > little hibachi fire. What a world!
>>
>> If it is wood or other flammable material it makes sense. Lots of houses
>> go up in flames every year from grills. both gas and charcoal.
>
>In Virginia, it is illegal now to grill on a balcony for all
>apartments and condos. Too many fires started from the usual wooden
>ones, I guess. My balcony is all concrete and brick but it still
>falls under the law for no grilling. I just do pan frying and oven
>baking now. The one thing I do miss is the grilled to blackened
>chicken with bbq sauce.
>
>G.
Place the grill in your bath tub, cook with the door closed and the
exhaust fan on.

On 8/10/2014 11:08 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/10/2014 6:33 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:54:19 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It's also probably against fire code.
>>
>> I think it has always been against code, but not as well enforced.
>> Also, other residents of the building want to keep their windows open
>> and not smell the smoke - especially when pyromaniacs like that kid
>> have a hand in getting the bbq started.
>>
>>
>
> Like most guys, I like to play with fire so it's probably a good idea to
> ban fires on lanais.
>
> A few years ago, there was a craze in Japan to have a hibachi party in
> your car. Mostly teens and young adults would have suicide pacts and 2
> or 3 of them would start a hibachi fire in a car and die from CO
> poisoning. Recreational suicide as a fad has quelled some but hibachi
> suicide is probably still a popular method in Asia. I think they even
> have warning labels on charcoal bags. It'll never be a very popular
> method on the US because American grills just won't fit.

Au contraire, have you seen:

http://www.weber.com/grills/series/smokey-joe

On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:53:04 -0500, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

>On 8/10/2014 12:03 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:28:32 -1000, dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm pretty ignorant about those things. I grew up using one of those
>>> little hibachis. Now that's what I call "Mickey Mouse."
>>
>> I think a hibachi was the introduction that most people our age (on
>> the West Coast and Hawaii) had to barbecuing. I know it was mine and
>> most of my friends who are natives. It fit neatly on apartment fire
>> escapes and lived there with our plants. Fire escapes were the poor
>> man's balcony back in the day.
>>
>>
>We East Coasters had our hibachis, too. Our apartments did have a
>balcony.

I set up my first grill in my parents back yard, I was like 8 years
old; three cinder blocks on the ground with an old fridge grate.
Actually I did my first outdoor cooking when I was about five years
old, dig a hole in a vacant lot, build a fire with glommed produce
crates and whatever found wood, make a nice bed of coals and roast
mickys.

On 8/10/2014 10:37 AM, Mayo wrote:
> On 8/10/2014 2:26 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 8/10/2014 8:15 AM, wrote:
>>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:07:28 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/10/2014 5:02 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 8/10/2014 3:39 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We got a pretty big lanai off our bedroom but we can't even have a
>>>>>> little hibachi fire. What a world!
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is wood or other flammable material it makes sense. Lots of
>>>>> houses
>>>>> go up in flames every year from grills. both gas and charcoal.
>>>>
>>>> My guess is that it's because neighbors in condos will no longer
>>>> tolerate other people creating smoke. I don't have any problem with
>>>> smoke. I can just close the windows. Cooking on your lanai used to
>>>> be ok
>>>> years ago but these days, people are always trying to get into other
>>>> people's business.
>>>>
>>>> My wife just hates how our pot smoking neighbors partakes in the
>>>> evenings and stinks up our place. I don't care for it either but my
>>>> feeling is that people have to learn to live together and what can I do
>>>> anyway - nark on them?
>>>
>>> My neighbour always damn well bbqs something that smells gd tasty on
>>> evenings when I was just going to have a sandwich or something boring
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'd take barbecue smoke over pot smoke any day. That's what I get for
>> not being a pothead.
>
>
> Are those the only two choices?

Pretty much, we don't get much free smoke around here.

On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:34:00 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> I have a lot of meds too which I keep in the bedroom. I use two drawers and
>> a basket in the bottom of a wardrobe.
>
>Yikes! Two drawers and a basket just for your meds? >;-[] arrggh!

I keep medications in a plastic fishing tackle box, sits atop a two
drawer metal filing cabinet inside a clothes closet in my office. I
have several fishing tackle boxes that I use for storing all sorts of
things in an orderly fashion. They're strong, inexpensive, and come
in many configurations.
http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=3409251

On 8/10/2014 11:08 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> Like most guys, I like to play with fire so it's probably a good idea to
> ban fires on lanais.

In Florida, a lanai is just a large concrete pad. Why would you need to
ban fires on concrete?

-- Larry

On 8/10/2014 3:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:34:00 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a lot of meds too which I keep in the bedroom. I use two drawers and
>>> a basket in the bottom of a wardrobe.
>>
>> Yikes! Two drawers and a basket just for your meds? >;-[] arrggh!
>
> I keep medications in a plastic fishing tackle box, sits atop a two
> drawer metal filing cabinet inside a clothes closet in my office. I
> have several fishing tackle boxes that I use for storing all sorts of
> things in an orderly fashion. They're strong, inexpensive, and come
> in many configurations.
> http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=3409251
>

Hope those never get confused, a drugged up bass is an ugly thing to see.

On 8/10/2014 11:20 AM, wrote:
>
> Just a young guy next to me, maybe 30, but a serious working type,
> definitely would be amazed if he smoked pot or anything else.
>
The folks upstairs are a married couple - the woman runs a medical
office and the guy is a corrections officer with the state. I can't say
how that works - I thought the state does random drug testing on their
officers. OTOH, my guess is that most of those guys are potheads and
firing everybody for marijuana would cause serious problems.

The daughter of this couple used clean her rabbit cage by dumping bunny
shit out of her window and it would rain down next to our window. Ha ha
that was awfully piggish of her. I can take a little pot smoke but I
draw the line at bunny rabbit crap. Oh yeah, we narked on her ass. I
think the whole family is on drugs. The woman's on the board too.

The new resident manager is a young, overly tense, Asian dude that maybe
takes his job a little too seriously. He passed out notices saying that
pot smoking will not be tolerated in the condo. I don't know how he
plans on enforcing this restriction but I'm just waiting for these two
to clash. That could be of great entertainment value for me. :-)

On 8/10/2014 11:25 AM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 8/10/2014 11:08 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> Like most guys, I like to play with fire so it's probably a good idea to
>> ban fires on lanais.
>
> In Florida, a lanai is just a large concrete pad. Why would you need to
> ban fires on concrete?
>
> -- Larry
>
>

This is a good question. My guess is that the state of Hawaii is afraid
of a little smoke and fire. Wimps. All I know is that I got a crap-load
of stuff that I'd set aflame - given the chance.

On 8/10/2014 4:40 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/10/2014 11:20 AM, wrote:
>>
>> Just a young guy next to me, maybe 30, but a serious working type,
>> definitely would be amazed if he smoked pot or anything else.
>>
> The folks upstairs are a married couple - the woman runs a medical
> office and the guy is a corrections officer with the state. I can't say
> how that works - I thought the state does random drug testing on their
> officers. OTOH, my guess is that most of those guys are potheads and
> firing everybody for marijuana would cause serious problems.
>
> The daughter of this couple used clean her rabbit cage by dumping bunny
> shit out of her window and it would rain down next to our window. Ha ha
> that was awfully piggish of her. I can take a little pot smoke but I
> draw the line at bunny rabbit crap. Oh yeah, we narked on her ass. I
> think the whole family is on drugs. The woman's on the board too.
>
> The new resident manager is a young, overly tense, Asian dude that maybe
> takes his job a little too seriously. He passed out notices saying that
> pot smoking will not be tolerated in the condo. I don't know how he
> plans on enforcing this restriction but I'm just waiting for these two
> to clash. That could be of great entertainment value for me. :-)

Dang, that's a Cheech and Chong flic in the making!

I'd sure buy the tickets and popcorn.

On 8/10/2014 1:20 PM, Mayo wrote:
> Dang, that's a Cheech and Chong flic in the making!
>
> I'd sure buy the tickets and popcorn.

I'm hoping for a big to-do and lots of action. The woman upstairs is a
pretty, attractive, gal or at least, was more so ten years ago. All the
married women, including my wife, in this condo do not like her. All the
married men, including me, think she's ok. Near as I can figure, the
women don't like her on general principle because of her looks. You'd
think she was beating her kids or cooking up meth in her kitchen. I used
to think she might be a hooker but I come to find out she manages an
office so that ain't it. :-)

On 8/10/2014 1:34 PM, wrote:
>
> They were talking on our radio that with the further acceptance of pot
> it is going to raise a lot queries. One was DUI but the problem with
> that is that nothing short of a blood test shows mj use. So I expect
> the corrections officer easily passes any urine test
>
Decriminalization of marijuana seems to be in the stars for North
America. Self-driving cars also appears to be in our future. This pretty
much means that DUIs will be a non-issue. Ain't technology wonderful?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=he4DGLGiI3E

On 8/10/2014 6:58 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/10/2014 1:20 PM, Mayo wrote:
>> Dang, that's a Cheech and Chong flic in the making!
>>
>> I'd sure buy the tickets and popcorn.
>
> I'm hoping for a big to-do and lots of action. The woman upstairs is a
> pretty, attractive, gal or at least, was more so ten years ago. All the
> married women, including my wife, in this condo do not like her. All the
> married men, including me, think she's ok. Near as I can figure, the
> women don't like her on general principle because of her looks. You'd
> think she was beating her kids or cooking up meth in her kitchen. I used
> to think she might be a hooker but I come to find out she manages an
> office so that ain't it. :-)

This could require a LOT of popcorn...;-)

On 8/10/2014 7:25 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/10/2014 1:34 PM, wrote:
>>
>> They were talking on our radio that with the further acceptance of pot
>> it is going to raise a lot queries. One was DUI but the problem with
>> that is that nothing short of a blood test shows mj use. So I expect
>> the corrections officer easily passes any urine test
>>
> Decriminalization of marijuana seems to be in the stars for North
> America. Self-driving cars also appears to be in our future. This pretty
> much means that DUIs will be a non-issue. Ain't technology wonderful?
>
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=he4DGLGiI3E

Since you put it that way!