"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 8/14/2014 4:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:29:55 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front wheel
>>>> drive? Nobody.
>>>
>>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five months
>>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder harness
>>> does.
>>
>> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>>
> Given some of the winter weather the UK has had the past couple of
> years, I can see why.

Well, there is that But I just love them anyway

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On 8/14/2014 3:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>> On 8/14/2014 4:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:29:55 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front wheel
>>>>> drive? Nobody.
>>>>
>>>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five months
>>>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder harness
>>>> does.
>>>
>>> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>>>
>> Given some of the winter weather the UK has had the past couple of
>> years, I can see why.
>
> Well, there is that But I just love them anyway
>
Landie?

On 8/13/2014 11:20 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 8/13/14, 11:13 PM, wrote:
>
>> Weight over the driving wheels is the main thing. VW Bugs were pretty
>> good
>> in the snow, too.
>
>
> ... as were my three Corvairs. 8
>
> -- Larry
>
>
Loved my Corvair Monza. Great handling and fantastic in snow.

"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 8/14/2014 3:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>> On 8/14/2014 4:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:29:55 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front wheel
>>>>>> drive? Nobody.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five months
>>>>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder harness
>>>>> does.
>>>>
>>>> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>>>>
>>> Given some of the winter weather the UK has had the past couple of
>>> years, I can see why.
>>
>> Well, there is that But I just love them anyway
>>
> Landie?

Mitsubishi



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Mayo wrote:
>Ophelia wrote:
>> Mayo wrote:
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>spamtrap wrote:
>>>>>dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front wheel
>>>>>> drive? Nobody.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five months
>>>>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder harness
>>>>> does.
>>>>
>>>> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>>>>
>>> Given some of the winter weather the UK has had the past couple of
>>> years, I can see why.
>>
>> Well, there is that But I just love them anyway
>>
>Landie?

Cruiser or Rover?

On 8/15/2014 4:41 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>> On 8/14/2014 3:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 8/14/2014 4:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:29:55 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front wheel
>>>>>>> drive? Nobody.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five
>>>>>> months
>>>>>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder harness
>>>>>> does.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>>>>>
>>>> Given some of the winter weather the UK has had the past couple of
>>>> years, I can see why.
>>>
>>> Well, there is that But I just love them anyway
>>>
>> Landie?
>
> Mitsubishi
>
>
>
Hah!

Outlander?

"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 8/15/2014 4:41 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>> On 8/14/2014 3:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 8/14/2014 4:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:29:55 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front wheel
>>>>>>>> drive? Nobody.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five
>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder
>>>>>>> harness
>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Given some of the winter weather the UK has had the past couple of
>>>>> years, I can see why.
>>>>
>>>> Well, there is that But I just love them anyway
>>>>
>>> Landie?
>>
>> Mitsubishi
>>
>>
>>
> Hah!
>
> Outlander?

Shogun.

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On 8/15/2014 12:54 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>> On 8/15/2014 4:41 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 8/14/2014 3:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 8/14/2014 4:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:29:55 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front wheel
>>>>>>>>> drive? Nobody.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five
>>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder
>>>>>>>> harness
>>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given some of the winter weather the UK has had the past couple of
>>>>>> years, I can see why.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, there is that But I just love them anyway
>>>>>
>>>> Landie?
>>>
>>> Mitsubishi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hah!
>>
>> Outlander?
>
> Shogun.
>
Not in our market, but rather attractive.

Diesel?

For whatever reason we still lag in diesel adoption here.

"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 8/15/2014 12:54 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>> On 8/15/2014 4:41 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 8/14/2014 3:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On 8/14/2014 4:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:29:55 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front
>>>>>>>>>> wheel
>>>>>>>>>> drive? Nobody.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five
>>>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>>>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder
>>>>>>>>> harness
>>>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Given some of the winter weather the UK has had the past couple of
>>>>>>> years, I can see why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, there is that But I just love them anyway
>>>>>>
>>>>> Landie?
>>>>
>>>> Mitsubishi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hah!
>>>
>>> Outlander?
>>
>> Shogun.
>>
> Not in our market, but rather attractive.
>
> Diesel?
>
> For whatever reason we still lag in diesel adoption here.

Yes 2.8 diesel. DH has a 2.8 Pajero diesel. They are both Jap imports and
basically the same car, but mine is short wheelbase and his long.

I had a Shogun for many years but it died and I got another car thinking the
mileage might be better but ... I had to sell it and get a Shogun again)
I won't change again)





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On 8/15/2014 4:20 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>> On 8/15/2014 12:54 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>>> On 8/15/2014 4:41 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 8/14/2014 3:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On 8/14/2014 4:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:29:55 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front
>>>>>>>>>>> wheel
>>>>>>>>>>> drive? Nobody.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five
>>>>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>>>>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder
>>>>>>>>>> harness
>>>>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Given some of the winter weather the UK has had the past couple of
>>>>>>>> years, I can see why.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, there is that But I just love them anyway
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Landie?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mitsubishi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hah!
>>>>
>>>> Outlander?
>>>
>>> Shogun.
>>>
>> Not in our market, but rather attractive.
>>
>> Diesel?
>>
>> For whatever reason we still lag in diesel adoption here.
>
> Yes 2.8 diesel. DH has a 2.8 Pajero diesel. They are both Jap imports
> and basically the same car, but mine is short wheelbase and his long.
>
> I had a Shogun for many years but it died and I got another car thinking
> the mileage might be better but ... I had to sell it and get a Shogun
> again) I won't change again)

I'm curious, what kind of mileage does that get?

The last compact diesel SUV we had here was Jeep's Liberty, and it only
lasted maybe 2 years with low sales.

On 8/15/2014 12:16 PM, Mayo wrote:
>
> The troll needs to take a spin in:
>
> http://images.picturesdepot.com/phot...ado-206826.jpg
>
>
>
I thought the 66 Toronado was one of the most beautiful cars ever. The
67, less so. The 68 - fuggitabboutit!

On 8/15/2014 1:02 PM, Mayo wrote:
>
> I'm curious, what kind of mileage does that get?
>
> The last compact diesel SUV we had here was Jeep's Liberty, and it only
> lasted maybe 2 years with low sales.
>

I drove a 2L turbo diesel in a Vauxhall Insignia. It has the flattest,
smoothest, torque curve of any engine I've ever driven. It felt more
like an electric motor than a piston engine. It had some long legs and
passing at 70 MPH was a piece of cake. This was a car that weighted
around 3500 lb and got over 40 MPG. I can barely believe that such a
thing is possible. The power delivery worked so smoothly that you'd be
an idiot to mess it up with a standard shifter. Hopefully, that's not
offered in this car. Simply brilliant!

On 8/14/2014 6:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:29:55 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front wheel
>>> drive? Nobody.
>>
>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five months
>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder harness
>> does.
>
> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>
Same here! We don't get a lot of snowstorms, but the ones we do make me
so glad to have 4x4.

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On 8/10/2014 9:47 AM, Cheryl wrote:

> On 8/10/2014 8:26 AM, wrote:
>
>> Have you seen these ? There are all sorts of variants, this is just
>> one
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Over-The-Door-...5M8T3ZEZHQ9 4
>>
>
> Thanks! I have a mini version of that on the inside of the door of one
> cabinet for spices. The shelves aren't wide enough for supplement
> bottles, but it gives me more options to look into. Thanks for the link!
>
I finally found something pefect to put my supplements in and it was
something like $5 as an add-on at Amazon, so no shipping. I tried a
different dispenser but it was missing a part, so back it went.

This doesn't hold the contents of entire bottles, but I made space for
the bottles and only have to handle this daily rather than open so many
jars.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/358swpg.jpg

http://oi62.tinypic.com/30djjo1.jpg

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On 8/15/2014 2:43 PM, Mayo wrote:

> Most sane people in snowy climes switch to winter tires, hth, troll.

Everyone I know must not be sane. Last time I swapped tires was on my
'63 Corvair and I don't know anyone today that switches to winter tires.

On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:48:24 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 8/15/2014 2:43 PM, Mayo wrote:
>
> > Most sane people in snowy climes switch to winter tires, hth, troll.
>
> Everyone I know must not be sane. Last time I swapped tires was on my
> '63 Corvair and I don't know anyone today that switches to winter tires.

Your streets must be well plowed. We need to bring chains when we go
to the mountains. I'd rather have snow tires, but their cost wouldn't
be justified by their usage.


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On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 21:52:48 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> http://oi58.tinypic.com/358swpg.jpg

I take D3 and have tried to figure out via the internet how much to
take and failed. What are the guidelines? I don't know if I'm taking
too much or too little.


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 21:52:48 -0400, Cheryl >
> wrote:
>
>> http://oi58.tinypic.com/358swpg.jpg
>
> I take D3 and have tried to figure out via the internet how much to
> take and failed. What are the guidelines? I don't know if I'm taking
> too much or too little.

You should ask your Dr. to test you. There is no one size fits all.
Daughter and I were tested and told to take 2,000 units in addition to what
we already take. Sorry, can't remember if that is milligrams or micrograms.
I already get some in my multiple and also in my calcium. Keep in mind that
we live in an area that normally gets very little sun. If you are out in
the sun a lot you may need less. But you also might need more.

"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 8/15/2014 4:20 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>> On 8/15/2014 12:54 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 8/15/2014 4:41 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On 8/14/2014 3:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> On 8/14/2014 4:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:29:55 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front
>>>>>>>>>>>> wheel
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive? Nobody.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five
>>>>>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>>>>>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder
>>>>>>>>>>> harness
>>>>>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Given some of the winter weather the UK has had the past couple of
>>>>>>>>> years, I can see why.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, there is that But I just love them anyway
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Landie?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mitsubishi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hah!
>>>>>
>>>>> Outlander?
>>>>
>>>> Shogun.
>>>>
>>> Not in our market, but rather attractive.
>>>
>>> Diesel?
>>>
>>> For whatever reason we still lag in diesel adoption here.
>>
>> Yes 2.8 diesel. DH has a 2.8 Pajero diesel. They are both Jap imports
>> and basically the same car, but mine is short wheelbase and his long.
>>
>> I had a Shogun for many years but it died and I got another car thinking
>> the mileage might be better but ... I had to sell it and get a Shogun
>> again) I won't change again)
>
> I'm curious, what kind of mileage does that get?
>
Shogun 25 mpg urban, 28 mpg distance
Pajero 23 mpg urban 25 mpg distance

Not much in it.

Whatever the load, or whatever distance towing, makes no difference
whatever

> The last compact diesel SUV we had here was Jeep's Liberty, and it only
> lasted maybe 2 years with low sales.

They seem very popular around the areas we go.



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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 8/14/2014 6:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:29:55 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front wheel
>>>> drive? Nobody.
>>>
>>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five months
>>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder harness
>>> does.
>>
>> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>>
> Same here! We don't get a lot of snowstorms, but the ones we do make me so
> glad to have 4x4.

Amen

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On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 01:02:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 21:52:48 -0400, Cheryl >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> http://oi58.tinypic.com/358swpg.jpg
> >
> > I take D3 and have tried to figure out via the internet how much to
> > take and failed. What are the guidelines? I don't know if I'm taking
> > too much or too little.
>
> You should ask your Dr. to test you. There is no one size fits all.
> Daughter and I were tested and told to take 2,000 units in addition to what
> we already take. Sorry, can't remember if that is milligrams or micrograms.
> I already get some in my multiple and also in my calcium. Keep in mind that
> we live in an area that normally gets very little sun. If you are out in
> the sun a lot you may need less. But you also might need more.

Yes, sunblock will inhibit D3 absorption - but that's something I'm
willing to wear considering how the sun beats up on our skin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9BqrSAHbTc


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On 8/16/2014 5:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>
>> I'm curious, what kind of mileage does that get?
>>
> Shogun 25 mpg urban, 28 mpg distance
> Pajero 23 mpg urban 25 mpg distance
>
Imperial gallons?

On 8/16/2014 4:02 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 21:52:48 -0400, Cheryl >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://oi58.tinypic.com/358swpg.jpg
>>
>> I take D3 and have tried to figure out via the internet how much to
>> take and failed. What are the guidelines? I don't know if I'm taking
>> too much or too little.
>
> You should ask your Dr. to test you. There is no one size fits all.
> Daughter and I were tested and told to take 2,000 units in addition to
> what we already take. Sorry, can't remember if that is milligrams or
> micrograms. I already get some in my multiple and also in my calcium.
> Keep in mind that we live in an area that normally gets very little
> sun. If you are out in the sun a lot you may need less. But you also
> might need more.

My doctor told me to take 1500 per day but they don't make them in that
size so I bought 2000s. She also told me to get out in the sun more.

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On 8/15/2014 11:21 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:48:24 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 8/15/2014 2:43 PM, Mayo wrote:
>>
>>> Most sane people in snowy climes switch to winter tires, hth, troll.
>>
>> Everyone I know must not be sane. Last time I swapped tires was on my
>> '63 Corvair and I don't know anyone today that switches to winter tires.
>
> Your streets must be well plowed. We need to bring chains when we go
> to the mountains. I'd rather have snow tires, but their cost wouldn't
> be justified by their usage.
>
>

Last November I put on a set of Nokian WRG3 tires on. They have a real
snow rating and yet are year round capable, even to speeds over 140 mph.
Best tires I ever had. They were designed for year round use in North
America.
http://www.nokiantires.com/winter-tires/nokian-wrg3/

Most of New England has good snow plowing though. If I can get out of
my driveway, I can drive most anywhere with decent tires.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:54:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 8/15/2014 11:21 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:48:24 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/15/2014 2:43 PM, Mayo wrote:
> >>
> >>> Most sane people in snowy climes switch to winter tires, hth, troll.
> >>
> >> Everyone I know must not be sane. Last time I swapped tires was on my
> >> '63 Corvair and I don't know anyone today that switches to winter tires.
> >
> > Your streets must be well plowed. We need to bring chains when we go
> > to the mountains. I'd rather have snow tires, but their cost wouldn't
> > be justified by their usage.
> >
> >
>
> Last November I put on a set of Nokian WRG3 tires on. They have a real
> snow rating and yet are year round capable, even to speeds over 140 mph.
> Best tires I ever had. They were designed for year round use in North
> America.
> http://www.nokiantires.com/winter-tires/nokian-wrg3/
>
> Most of New England has good snow plowing though. If I can get out of
> my driveway, I can drive most anywhere with decent tires.

Thanks! I'll pass that on to "the Decider".


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On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:50:36 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>My doctor told me to take 1500 per day but they don't make them in that
>size so I bought 2000s. She also told me to get out in the sun more.

I take 2000 units a day. Haven't had a cold in years.

Doris

On 8/16/2014 10:50 AM, Cheryl wrote:

> My doctor told me to take 1500 per day but they don't make them in that
> size so I bought 2000s. She also told me to get out in the sun more.
>

You only need 15 minutes of sun a day. I'd take a 2000 one day and 1000
the next.

On 8/16/2014 11:34 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/16/2014 10:50 AM, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> My doctor told me to take 1500 per day but they don't make them in that
>> size so I bought 2000s. She also told me to get out in the sun more.
>>
>
> You only need 15 minutes of sun a day. I'd take a 2000 one day and 1000
> the next.

I've been trying to sit outside for about that amount of time per day,
sometimes it doesn't work out. I'll be getting my bloodwork done again
soon, so I'll have to see if the D value went up from taking this. It
was extremely low.

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"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/16/2014 5:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>
>>> I'm curious, what kind of mileage does that get?
>>>
>> Shogun 25 mpg urban, 28 mpg distance
>> Pajero 23 mpg urban 25 mpg distance
>>
> Imperial gallons?

Ahh. OUR gallons If you would be so kind as to say what it would be
there?

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:54:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 8/15/2014 11:21 PM, sf wrote:
>> > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:48:24 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 8/15/2014 2:43 PM, Mayo wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Most sane people in snowy climes switch to winter tires, hth, troll.
>> >>
>> >> Everyone I know must not be sane. Last time I swapped tires was on my
>> >> '63 Corvair and I don't know anyone today that switches to winter
>> >> tires.
>> >
>> > Your streets must be well plowed. We need to bring chains when we go
>> > to the mountains. I'd rather have snow tires, but their cost wouldn't
>> > be justified by their usage.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Last November I put on a set of Nokian WRG3 tires on. They have a real
>> snow rating and yet are year round capable, even to speeds over 140 mph.
>> Best tires I ever had. They were designed for year round use in North
>> America.
>> http://www.nokiantires.com/winter-tires/nokian-wrg3/
>>
>> Most of New England has good snow plowing though. If I can get out of
>> my driveway, I can drive most anywhere with decent tires.
>
> Thanks! I'll pass that on to "the Decider".

You have one of those in your house too eh? )


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On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:26:33 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:54:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Last November I put on a set of Nokian WRG3 tires on. They have a real
> >> snow rating and yet are year round capable, even to speeds over 140 mph.
> >> Best tires I ever had. They were designed for year round use in North
> >> America.
> >> http://www.nokiantires.com/winter-tires/nokian-wrg3/
> >>
> >> Most of New England has good snow plowing though. If I can get out of
> >> my driveway, I can drive most anywhere with decent tires.
> >
> > Thanks! I'll pass that on to "the Decider".
>
> You have one of those in your house too eh? )

He needs something to do and "deciding" is a good one for him because
he's all thumbs and every one of them is brown.


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On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:50:47 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

> I've been trying to sit outside for about that amount of time per day,
> sometimes it doesn't work out. I'll be getting my bloodwork done again
> soon, so I'll have to see if the D value went up from taking this. It
> was extremely low.

I thought that sitting next to a sunny window counted until I saw the
video I posted about UV. Turns out it's the same for vD. You need to
be outside with your skin exposed (no sunblock) for 10-20 minutes when
"your shadow is shorter than you are" according to this web site.
http://www.nos.org.uk/page.aspx?pid=535


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On 8/15/2014 5:25 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/15/2014 12:16 PM, Mayo wrote:
>>
>> The troll needs to take a spin in:
>>
>> http://images.picturesdepot.com/phot...ado-206826.jpg
>>
>>
>>
> I thought the 66 Toronado was one of the most beautiful cars ever. The
> 67, less so. The 68 - fuggitabboutit!

I completely agree.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:26:33 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:54:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Last November I put on a set of Nokian WRG3 tires on. They have a
>> >> real
>> >> snow rating and yet are year round capable, even to speeds over 140
>> >> mph.
>> >> Best tires I ever had. They were designed for year round use in
>> >> North
>> >> America.
>> >> http://www.nokiantires.com/winter-tires/nokian-wrg3/
>> >>
>> >> Most of New England has good snow plowing though. If I can get out of
>> >> my driveway, I can drive most anywhere with decent tires.
>> >
>> > Thanks! I'll pass that on to "the Decider".
>>
>> You have one of those in your house too eh? )
>
> He needs something to do and "deciding" is a good one for him because
> he's all thumbs and every one of them is brown.

lol. Well mine is an excellent 'decider'


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On 8/15/2014 5:46 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/15/2014 1:02 PM, Mayo wrote:
>>
>> I'm curious, what kind of mileage does that get?
>>
>> The last compact diesel SUV we had here was Jeep's Liberty, and it only
>> lasted maybe 2 years with low sales.
>>
>
> I drove a 2L turbo diesel in a Vauxhall Insignia. It has the flattest,
> smoothest, torque curve of any engine I've ever driven. It felt more
> like an electric motor than a piston engine. It had some long legs and
> passing at 70 MPH was a piece of cake. This was a car that weighted
> around 3500 lb and got over 40 MPG. I can barely believe that such a
> thing is possible. The power delivery worked so smoothly that you'd be
> an idiot to mess it up with a standard shifter. Hopefully, that's not
> offered in this car. Simply brilliant!

Diesel anything is the bomb, the locomotive torque is hugely addicting,
as too the insane high mileage!

Mazda reportedly will over a diesel in their 6 series this fall - should
be wonderful.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:40:51 -0600, Mayo > wrote:

> On 8/15/2014 5:46 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On 8/15/2014 1:02 PM, Mayo wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm curious, what kind of mileage does that get?
> >>
> >> The last compact diesel SUV we had here was Jeep's Liberty, and it only
> >> lasted maybe 2 years with low sales.
> >>
> >
> > I drove a 2L turbo diesel in a Vauxhall Insignia. It has the flattest,
> > smoothest, torque curve of any engine I've ever driven. It felt more
> > like an electric motor than a piston engine. It had some long legs and
> > passing at 70 MPH was a piece of cake. This was a car that weighted
> > around 3500 lb and got over 40 MPG. I can barely believe that such a
> > thing is possible. The power delivery worked so smoothly that you'd be
> > an idiot to mess it up with a standard shifter. Hopefully, that's not
> > offered in this car. Simply brilliant!
>
> Diesel anything is the bomb, the locomotive torque is hugely addicting,
> as too the insane high mileage!
>
> Mazda reportedly will over a diesel in their 6 series this fall - should
> be wonderful.

If you can find a gas station that sells diesel.


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On 8/16/2014 8:40 AM, Mayo wrote:
> On 8/15/2014 5:46 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 8/15/2014 1:02 PM, Mayo wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm curious, what kind of mileage does that get?
>>>
>>> The last compact diesel SUV we had here was Jeep's Liberty, and it only
>>> lasted maybe 2 years with low sales.
>>>
>>
>> I drove a 2L turbo diesel in a Vauxhall Insignia. It has the flattest,
>> smoothest, torque curve of any engine I've ever driven. It felt more
>> like an electric motor than a piston engine. It had some long legs and
>> passing at 70 MPH was a piece of cake. This was a car that weighted
>> around 3500 lb and got over 40 MPG. I can barely believe that such a
>> thing is possible. The power delivery worked so smoothly that you'd be
>> an idiot to mess it up with a standard shifter. Hopefully, that's not
>> offered in this car. Simply brilliant!
>
> Diesel anything is the bomb, the locomotive torque is hugely addicting,
> as too the insane high mileage!

My only experience with a diesel was in a VW Rabbit which was totally
underwhelming. I think the Vauxhall might have had 2 turbos and an
intercooler so it was kind of a big bomb. Most impressive!

>
> Mazda reportedly will over a diesel in their 6 series this fall - should
> be wonderful.

On 8/15/2014 8:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/15/2014 2:43 PM, Mayo wrote:
>
>> Most sane people in snowy climes switch to winter tires, hth, troll.
>
> Everyone I know must not be sane. Last time I swapped tires was on my
> '63 Corvair and I don't know anyone today that switches to winter tires.


Are you in a snowy clime?

The ones I have lived in saw a rush to the tire stores in later October.

On 8/16/2014 3:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>> On 8/15/2014 4:20 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>>> On 8/15/2014 12:54 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 8/15/2014 4:41 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On 8/14/2014 3:36 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/14/2014 4:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:29:55 AM UTC-7, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resistance is futile. Who the heck wanted air bags and front
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive? Nobody.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted front wheel drive when I was driving through snow five
>>>>>>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>>>>>>> a year. And airbags don't bruise you as much as that shoulder
>>>>>>>>>>>> harness
>>>>>>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've had a 4x4 for years now and I wouldn't want any other.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Given some of the winter weather the UK has had the past
>>>>>>>>>> couple of
>>>>>>>>>> years, I can see why.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, there is that But I just love them anyway
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Landie?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mitsubishi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hah!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Outlander?
>>>>>
>>>>> Shogun.
>>>>>
>>>> Not in our market, but rather attractive.
>>>>
>>>> Diesel?
>>>>
>>>> For whatever reason we still lag in diesel adoption here.
>>>
>>> Yes 2.8 diesel. DH has a 2.8 Pajero diesel. They are both Jap imports
>>> and basically the same car, but mine is short wheelbase and his long.
>>>
>>> I had a Shogun for many years but it died and I got another car thinking
>>> the mileage might be better but ... I had to sell it and get a Shogun
>>> again) I won't change again)
>>
>> I'm curious, what kind of mileage does that get?
>>
> Shogun 25 mpg urban, 28 mpg distance
> Pajero 23 mpg urban 25 mpg distance
>
> Not much in it.
>
> Whatever the load, or whatever distance towing, makes no difference
> whatever
>

That's good old diesel for you!

>> The last compact diesel SUV we had here was Jeep's Liberty, and it
>> only lasted maybe 2 years with low sales.
>
> They seem very popular around the areas we go.

America lags in this area, quite a bit.

We only got low sulfur diesel standards very recently.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:31:03 -0600, Mayo > wrote:

>On 8/15/2014 5:25 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 8/15/2014 12:16 PM, Mayo wrote:
>>>
>>> The troll needs to take a spin in:
>>>
>>> http://images.picturesdepot.com/phot...ado-206826.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I thought the 66 Toronado was one of the most beautiful cars ever. The
>> 67, less so. The 68 - fuggitabboutit!
>
>I completely agree.

My 1978 Biaritz is far sexier:
http://i62.tinypic.com/mb7eo4.jpg
Unfortunately back then no digicams so had to scan an old photo, this
is better:
http://media.supersportmotors.com/ph...2/DSCN4809.jpg