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I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to be
an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up including
whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add some onion,
probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey breast, peas and
some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I have some boxed
turkey broth to add.

I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken or
tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have to be
turkey. Will probably attempt to do this on top of the stove as I don't
want to fire up the oven. I had to self clean it yet again after last
night's baking. Not sure what slopped over the sides but it was kind of
buttery and sticky enough that trying to wipe it with a wet paper towel
didn't do much at all.

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On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 02:19:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to be
>an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up including
>whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add some onion,
>probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey breast, peas and
>some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I have some boxed
>turkey broth to add.
>
>I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken or
>tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have to be
>turkey. Will probably attempt to do this on top of the stove as I don't
>want to fire up the oven. I had to self clean it yet again after last
>night's baking. Not sure what slopped over the sides but it was kind of
>buttery and sticky enough that trying to wipe it with a wet paper towel
>didn't do much at all.


I prepare tetrazzini often and rarely does it contain dairy, just a
basic flour/veg oil/water bechamel (white sauce).
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> On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 02:19:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to be
>>an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up including
>>whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add some onion,
>>probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey breast, peas and
>>some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I have some boxed
>>turkey broth to add.
>>
>>I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken or
>>tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have to be
>>turkey. Will probably attempt to do this on top of the stove as I don't
>>want to fire up the oven. I had to self clean it yet again after last
>>night's baking. Not sure what slopped over the sides but it was kind of
>>buttery and sticky enough that trying to wipe it with a wet paper towel
>>didn't do much at all.

>
> I prepare tetrazzini often and rarely does it contain dairy, just a
> basic flour/veg oil/water bechamel (white sauce).


White sauce has milk or cream in it. And tetrazzini often has cheese as
well.

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On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:24:20 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 02:19:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to be
> >>an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up including
> >>whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add some onion,
> >>probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey breast, peas and
> >>some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I have some boxed
> >>turkey broth to add.
> >>
> >>I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken or
> >>tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have to be
> >>turkey. Will probably attempt to do this on top of the stove as I don't
> >>want to fire up the oven. I had to self clean it yet again after last
> >>night's baking. Not sure what slopped over the sides but it was kind of
> >>buttery and sticky enough that trying to wipe it with a wet paper towel
> >>didn't do much at all.

> >
> > I prepare tetrazzini often and rarely does it contain dairy, just a
> > basic flour/veg oil/water bechamel (white sauce).

>
> White sauce has milk or cream in it. And tetrazzini often has cheese as
> well.


It sounds like he's making oily paste. A velouté would have stock in
it, you'd use vegetable stock because you can't eat chicken. I'd just
forget about making Tetrazzini if I had to make as many changes as you
have to make because the result is not even close to Tetrazzini.

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> On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:24:20 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 02:19:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
>> >>be
>> >>an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
>> >>including
>> >>whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add some onion,
>> >>probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey breast, peas
>> >>and
>> >>some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I have some boxed
>> >>turkey broth to add.
>> >>
>> >>I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken
>> >>or
>> >>tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have to
>> >>be
>> >>turkey. Will probably attempt to do this on top of the stove as I
>> >>don't
>> >>want to fire up the oven. I had to self clean it yet again after last
>> >>night's baking. Not sure what slopped over the sides but it was kind
>> >>of
>> >>buttery and sticky enough that trying to wipe it with a wet paper towel
>> >>didn't do much at all.
>> >
>> > I prepare tetrazzini often and rarely does it contain dairy, just a
>> > basic flour/veg oil/water bechamel (white sauce).

>>
>> White sauce has milk or cream in it. And tetrazzini often has cheese as
>> well.

>
> It sounds like he's making oily paste. A velouté would have stock in
> it, you'd use vegetable stock because you can't eat chicken. I'd just
> forget about making Tetrazzini if I had to make as many changes as you
> have to make because the result is not even close to Tetrazzini.


Well, I don't know what you'd call what I made. But Angela loved it and
that's all that matters. Normally I would have baked this in the oven but
instead I just used my big sauté pan to heat it all through.



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On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 23:22:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:24:20 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 02:19:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
> >> >>be
> >> >>an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
> >> >>including
> >> >>whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add some onion,
> >> >>probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey breast, peas
> >> >>and
> >> >>some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I have some boxed
> >> >>turkey broth to add.
> >> >>
> >> >>I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken
> >> >>or
> >> >>tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have to
> >> >>be
> >> >>turkey. Will probably attempt to do this on top of the stove as I
> >> >>don't
> >> >>want to fire up the oven. I had to self clean it yet again after last
> >> >>night's baking. Not sure what slopped over the sides but it was kind
> >> >>of
> >> >>buttery and sticky enough that trying to wipe it with a wet paper towel
> >> >>didn't do much at all.
> >> >
> >> > I prepare tetrazzini often and rarely does it contain dairy, just a
> >> > basic flour/veg oil/water bechamel (white sauce).
> >>
> >> White sauce has milk or cream in it. And tetrazzini often has cheese as
> >> well.

> >
> > It sounds like he's making oily paste. A velouté would have stock in
> > it, you'd use vegetable stock because you can't eat chicken. I'd just
> > forget about making Tetrazzini if I had to make as many changes as you
> > have to make because the result is not even close to Tetrazzini.

>
> Well, I don't know what you'd call what I made. But Angela loved it and
> that's all that matters. Normally I would have baked this in the oven but
> instead I just used my big sauté pan to heat it all through.


I'd call it baked turkey and pasta in a mushroom gravy... except you
didn't mention mushrooms or baking, so it would just be gravy.

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On 8/7/2014 10:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:23:54 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> I prepare tetrazzini often and rarely does it contain dairy, just a
>> basic flour/veg oil/water bechamel (white sauce).

>
> Uh, the two main ingredients that define a bechamel sauce are milk
> and/or cream plus butter.
>
> -sw
>

Are you dense, he just listed a non-dairy recipe.

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> On 8/7/2014 10:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:23:54 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> I prepare tetrazzini often and rarely does it contain dairy, just a
>>> basic flour/veg oil/water bechamel (white sauce).

>>
>> Uh, the two main ingredients that define a bechamel sauce are milk
>> and/or cream plus butter.
>>
>> -sw
>>

> Are you dense, he just listed a non-dairy recipe.
>
> Have another coffin nail, you've earned it.


Actually he didn't. I don't know what that would be but not white sauce and
certainly not good.

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On 8/7/2014 3:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "squirts" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/7/2014 10:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:23:54 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> I prepare tetrazzini often and rarely does it contain dairy, just a
>>>> basic flour/veg oil/water bechamel (white sauce).
>>>
>>> Uh, the two main ingredients that define a bechamel sauce are milk
>>> and/or cream plus butter.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>

>> Are you dense, he just listed a non-dairy recipe.
>>
>> Have another coffin nail, you've earned it.

>
> Actually he didn't. I don't know what that would be but not white sauce
> and certainly not good.


As I said earlier, it's likely a roux made with flour and chicken fat or
veg. oil could work. Adjust to as white or gold as you feel comfortable
with. No milk or butter needed.
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"squirts" > wrote in message
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> On 8/7/2014 3:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "squirts" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/7/2014 10:28 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:23:54 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I prepare tetrazzini often and rarely does it contain dairy, just a
>>>>> basic flour/veg oil/water bechamel (white sauce).
>>>>
>>>> Uh, the two main ingredients that define a bechamel sauce are milk
>>>> and/or cream plus butter.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>> Are you dense, he just listed a non-dairy recipe.
>>>
>>> Have another coffin nail, you've earned it.

>>
>> Actually he didn't. I don't know what that would be but not white sauce
>> and certainly not good.

>
> As I said earlier, it's likely a roux made with flour and chicken fat or
> veg. oil could work. Adjust to as white or gold as you feel comfortable
> with. No milk or butter needed.


Again, I can't have chicken and the end result of that is not something I'd
want to eat.



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On 8/7/2014 3:19 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
> be an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
> including whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add
> some onion, probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey
> breast, peas and some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I
> have some boxed turkey broth to add.
>
> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken
> or tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have to
> be turkey. Will probably attempt to do this on top of the stove as I
> don't want to fire up the oven. I had to self clean it yet again after
> last night's baking. Not sure what slopped over the sides but it was
> kind of buttery and sticky enough that trying to wipe it with a wet
> paper towel didn't do much at all.



Consider using a very light (golden) roux - if butter is considered a
dairy no-no then use chicken fat or canola oil with the flour.

This will work well in a pot pie also.


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> On 8/7/2014 3:19 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
>> be an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
>> including whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add
>> some onion, probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey
>> breast, peas and some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I
>> have some boxed turkey broth to add.
>>
>> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken
>> or tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have to
>> be turkey. Will probably attempt to do this on top of the stove as I
>> don't want to fire up the oven. I had to self clean it yet again after
>> last night's baking. Not sure what slopped over the sides but it was
>> kind of buttery and sticky enough that trying to wipe it with a wet
>> paper towel didn't do much at all.

>
>
> Consider using a very light (golden) roux - if butter is considered a
> dairy no-no then use chicken fat or canola oil with the flour.
>
> This will work well in a pot pie also.


As I said, I can't have chicken. And I don't like the flavor of canola.

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On 8/7/2014 3:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "squirts" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/7/2014 3:19 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
>>> be an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
>>> including whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add
>>> some onion, probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey
>>> breast, peas and some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I
>>> have some boxed turkey broth to add.
>>>
>>> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken
>>> or tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have to
>>> be turkey. Will probably attempt to do this on top of the stove as I
>>> don't want to fire up the oven. I had to self clean it yet again after
>>> last night's baking. Not sure what slopped over the sides but it was
>>> kind of buttery and sticky enough that trying to wipe it with a wet
>>> paper towel didn't do much at all.

>>
>>
>> Consider using a very light (golden) roux - if butter is considered a
>> dairy no-no then use chicken fat or canola oil with the flour.
>>
>> This will work well in a pot pie also.

>
> As I said, I can't have chicken. And I don't like the flavor of canola.


Then there is vegetable oil, corn oil, or cottonseed oil, amongst
others, even good old lard.

Lotsa possibilities to make a roux.
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"squirts" > wrote in message
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> On 8/7/2014 3:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "squirts" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/7/2014 3:19 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
>>>> be an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
>>>> including whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add
>>>> some onion, probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey
>>>> breast, peas and some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I
>>>> have some boxed turkey broth to add.
>>>>
>>>> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken
>>>> or tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have
>>>> to
>>>> be turkey. Will probably attempt to do this on top of the stove as I
>>>> don't want to fire up the oven. I had to self clean it yet again after
>>>> last night's baking. Not sure what slopped over the sides but it was
>>>> kind of buttery and sticky enough that trying to wipe it with a wet
>>>> paper towel didn't do much at all.
>>>
>>>
>>> Consider using a very light (golden) roux - if butter is considered a
>>> dairy no-no then use chicken fat or canola oil with the flour.
>>>
>>> This will work well in a pot pie also.

>>
>> As I said, I can't have chicken. And I don't like the flavor of canola.

>
> Then there is vegetable oil, corn oil, or cottonseed oil, amongst others,
> even good old lard.


That's not something I'd want to eat.

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On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 19:14:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>
>"squirts" > wrote in message
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>> On 8/7/2014 3:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "squirts" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 8/7/2014 3:19 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
>>>>> be an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
>>>>> including whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add
>>>>> some onion, probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey
>>>>> breast, peas and some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I
>>>>> have some boxed turkey broth to add.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken
>>>>> or tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have
>>>>> to
>>>>> be turkey. Will probably attempt to do this on top of the stove as I
>>>>> don't want to fire up the oven. I had to self clean it yet again after
>>>>> last night's baking. Not sure what slopped over the sides but it was
>>>>> kind of buttery and sticky enough that trying to wipe it with a wet
>>>>> paper towel didn't do much at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Consider using a very light (golden) roux - if butter is considered a
>>>> dairy no-no then use chicken fat or canola oil with the flour.
>>>>
>>>> This will work well in a pot pie also.
>>>
>>> As I said, I can't have chicken. And I don't like the flavor of canola.

>>
>> Then there is vegetable oil, corn oil, or cottonseed oil, amongst others,
>> even good old lard.

>
>That's not something I'd want to eat.


Do you even know what tetrazzini is...???
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On 8/7/2014 8:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "squirts" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/7/2014 3:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "squirts" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 8/7/2014 3:19 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will
>>>>> have to
>>>>> be an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
>>>>> including whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add
>>>>> some onion, probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey
>>>>> breast, peas and some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too
>>>>> dry, I
>>>>> have some boxed turkey broth to add.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and
>>>>> chicken
>>>>> or tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will
>>>>> have to
>>>>> be turkey. Will probably attempt to do this on top of the stove as I
>>>>> don't want to fire up the oven. I had to self clean it yet again
>>>>> after
>>>>> last night's baking. Not sure what slopped over the sides but it was
>>>>> kind of buttery and sticky enough that trying to wipe it with a wet
>>>>> paper towel didn't do much at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Consider using a very light (golden) roux - if butter is considered a
>>>> dairy no-no then use chicken fat or canola oil with the flour.
>>>>
>>>> This will work well in a pot pie also.
>>>
>>> As I said, I can't have chicken. And I don't like the flavor of canola.

>>
>> Then there is vegetable oil, corn oil, or cottonseed oil, amongst
>> others, even good old lard.

>
> That's not something I'd want to eat.


Lard?

No, probably not, but the other oils ought to offer a range of choices.


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On 8/7/2014 5:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "squirts" > wrote in message
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>> On 8/7/2014 3:19 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
>>> be an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
>>> including whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add
>>> some onion, probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey
>>> breast, peas and some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I
>>> have some boxed turkey broth to add.
>>>
>>> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken
>>> or tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have to
>>> be turkey.

>>
>>
>> Consider using a very light (golden) roux - if butter is considered a
>> dairy no-no then use chicken fat or canola oil with the flour.
>>
>> This will work well in a pot pie also.

>
> As I said, I can't have chicken. And I don't like the flavor of canola.


I'm not espousing what he/she recommends, mind you. You can always use
turkey rather than chicken. But there are other oils neutral oils other
than canola. Safflower. Sunflower. Peanut oil. Still, I seriously
doubt making a roux would be the same at all. See, the new "squirts"
troll doesn't even know butter is considered dairy. BZZZZZT!

He/she went into the k/f the minute they posted allegedly embarrassing
pictures of Steve Wertz being awarded for volunteering at a food bank.

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> On 8/7/2014 5:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "squirts" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/7/2014 3:19 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
>>>> be an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
>>>> including whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add
>>>> some onion, probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey
>>>> breast, peas and some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I
>>>> have some boxed turkey broth to add.
>>>>
>>>> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken
>>>> or tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have
>>>> to
>>>> be turkey.
>>>
>>>
>>> Consider using a very light (golden) roux - if butter is considered a
>>> dairy no-no then use chicken fat or canola oil with the flour.
>>>
>>> This will work well in a pot pie also.

>>
>> As I said, I can't have chicken. And I don't like the flavor of canola.

>
> I'm not espousing what he/she recommends, mind you. You can always use
> turkey rather than chicken. But there are other oils neutral oils other
> than canola. Safflower. Sunflower. Peanut oil. Still, I seriously
> doubt making a roux would be the same at all. See, the new "squirts"


Where in the world would I get turkey fat? And I know there are oils but I
don't want something that is just fat and flour. That doesn't make for a
tasty dish.

> troll doesn't even know butter is considered dairy. BZZZZZT!
>
> He/she went into the k/f the minute they posted allegedly embarrassing
> pictures of Steve Wertz being awarded for volunteering at a food bank.


What was embarrassing about the pic?

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"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 8/7/2014 5:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> "squirts" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On 8/7/2014 3:19 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
> >>>> be an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
> >>>> including whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add
> >>>> some onion, probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey
> >>>> breast, peas and some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I
> >>>> have some boxed turkey broth to add.
> >>>>
> >>>> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken
> >>>> or tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have
> >>>> to
> >>>> be turkey.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Consider using a very light (golden) roux - if butter is considered a
> >>> dairy no-no then use chicken fat or canola oil with the flour.
> >>>
> >>> This will work well in a pot pie also.
> >>
> >> As I said, I can't have chicken. And I don't like the flavor of canola.

> >
> > I'm not espousing what he/she recommends, mind you. You can always use
> > turkey rather than chicken. But there are other oils neutral oils other
> > than canola. Safflower. Sunflower. Peanut oil. Still, I seriously
> > doubt making a roux would be the same at all. See, the new "squirts"

>
> Where in the world would I get turkey fat? And I know there are oils but I
> don't want something that is just fat and flour. That doesn't make for a
> tasty dish.


I've never known anyone that would consider a roux as "food" to be eaten
by itself


>
> > troll doesn't even know butter is considered dairy. BZZZZZT!
> >
> > He/she went into the k/f the minute they posted allegedly embarrassing
> > pictures of Steve Wertz being awarded for volunteering at a food bank.

>
> What was embarrassing about the pic?

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On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 19:15:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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> And I know there are oils but I
> don't want something that is just fat and flour. That doesn't make for a
> tasty dish.


In any case, an oil roux is the beginning of gumbo, not Tetrazzini.
http://www.gumbocooking.com/traditional-roux.html


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On 8/7/2014 10:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
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>> "squirts"
>> troll doesn't even know butter is considered dairy. BZZZZZT!
>>
>> He/she went into the k/f the minute they posted allegedly embarrassing
>> pictures of Steve Wertz being awarded for volunteering at a food bank.

>
> What was embarrassing about the pic?


Nothing, which was my point. Anyone who goes to all the trouble to dig
up photos of people is nothing more than a stalker. Hence, k/f.

Jill


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On 8/7/2014 5:51 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/7/2014 5:25 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "squirts" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/7/2014 3:19 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
>>>> be an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
>>>> including whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add
>>>> some onion, probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey
>>>> breast, peas and some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I
>>>> have some boxed turkey broth to add.
>>>>
>>>> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken
>>>> or tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will
>>>> have to
>>>> be turkey.
>>>
>>>
>>> Consider using a very light (golden) roux - if butter is considered a
>>> dairy no-no then use chicken fat or canola oil with the flour.
>>>
>>> This will work well in a pot pie also.

>>
>> As I said, I can't have chicken. And I don't like the flavor of canola.

>
> I'm not espousing what he/she recommends, mind you. You can always use
> turkey rather than chicken. But there are other oils neutral oils other
> than canola. Safflower. Sunflower. Peanut oil. Still, I seriously
> doubt making a roux would be the same at all. See, the new "squirts"
> troll doesn't even know butter is considered dairy. BZZZZZT!


That was why I listed other oils, dear.

> He/she went into the k/f the minute they posted allegedly embarrassing
> pictures of Steve Wertz being awarded for volunteering at a food bank.
>
> Jill


Your self-righteousness is a giddy delusion.
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On 8/8/2014 1:15 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:25:50 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "squirts" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/7/2014 3:19 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
>>>> be an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
>>>> including whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add
>>>> some onion, probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey
>>>> breast, peas and some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I
>>>> have some boxed turkey broth to add.
>>>>
>>>> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini, A La King and chicken
>>>> or tuna casserole. Alas I can't have chicken or tuna so it will have to
>>>> be turkey. Will probably attempt to do this on top of the stove as I
>>>> don't want to fire up the oven. I had to self clean it yet again after
>>>> last night's baking. Not sure what slopped over the sides but it was
>>>> kind of buttery and sticky enough that trying to wipe it with a wet
>>>> paper towel didn't do much at all.
>>>
>>>
>>> Consider using a very light (golden) roux - if butter is considered a
>>> dairy no-no then use chicken fat or canola oil with the flour.
>>>
>>> This will work well in a pot pie also.

>>
>> As I said, I can't have chicken. And I don't like the flavor of canola.

>
> Sucker!
>
> -sw
>

Misogynist troll!
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 02:19:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to be
> an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up including
> whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add some onion,
> probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey breast, peas and
> some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I have some boxed
> turkey broth to add.
>
> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini,


Why can't you make it using a nondairy creamer for the white sauce?
It wouldn't be Tetrazzini to me without lots of parmesan cheese, so I
guess that's what nutritional yeast is for when you can't eat dairy.

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> On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 02:19:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
>> be
>> an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up including
>> whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add some onion,
>> probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey breast, peas and
>> some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I have some boxed
>> turkey broth to add.
>>
>> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini,

>
> Why can't you make it using a nondairy creamer for the white sauce?
> It wouldn't be Tetrazzini to me without lots of parmesan cheese, so I
> guess that's what nutritional yeast is for when you can't eat dairy.


Because nondairy creamer contains dairy! Why it has that name is beyond me.
I have used nutritional yeast for some things. Not enough that I want to
keep it in the house and it is hard to find that doesn't contain dairy. I
don't think I would like the flavor of it in this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Dairy_Creamer

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"Julie Bove" > wrote:

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> ...
> > On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 02:19:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
> >> be
> >> an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up including
> >> whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add some onion,
> >> probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey breast, peas and
> >> some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I have some boxed
> >> turkey broth to add.
> >>
> >> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini,

> >
> > Why can't you make it using a nondairy creamer for the white sauce?
> > It wouldn't be Tetrazzini to me without lots of parmesan cheese, so I
> > guess that's what nutritional yeast is for when you can't eat dairy.

>
> Because nondairy creamer contains dairy! Why it has that name is beyond me.
> I have used nutritional yeast for some things. Not enough that I want to
> keep it in the house and it is hard to find that doesn't contain dairy. I
> don't think I would like the flavor of it in this.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Dairy_Creamer


Alternatives
If you¹d rather skip the chemicals, fats and beaver booty, but still
crave a little creaminess in your java, you might want to consider one
of these (relatively) healthier options.
Almond Milk*
A good choice for the lactose intolerant, almond milk comes in a variety
of flavors. Typically supplemented, it is a good source of vitamins A,
B-12 and D as well as potassium, phosphorus and zinc.*
Coconut Milk*
Delicious and healthful:
More than half of the fats from coconuts are known as medium-chain
triglycerides (MCTs) * a type of fat that is more likely to be burned
off as fuel, rather than stored on the body.*
Cream and Whole Milk
For those not afflicted with lactose intolerance, smaller amounts of
these high-fat foods can produce health benefits:
Dairy fats contain bio-active components including CLA (Conjugated
linoleic acid) and Omega-3 fatty acids that counter balance saturated
fats.
In addition, whole milk has lots of protein and calcium, as well as
vitamin D and potassium.* Further, recent studies are showing that,
contrary to what was once thought, ³consumption of whole-fat dairy is
linked to reduced body fat.³
Hemp Milk*
Imparting no additional buzz to your morning cup of Joe, hemp milk is
also a viable alternative for the lactose intolerant. A cup of Hemp
Bliss original flavor provides 20% of the RDA of iron and 5 grams of
protein, with only 7 grams of fat.
Soy Milk
Although recent research has raised some concern about ingesting too
much soy, it remains a good source of vitamin A and calcium, and one cup
provides six grams of protein and only 4 grams of fat.






http://sodeliciousdairyfree.com/reci...oni-and-cheese

seems to me that if you can make mac and cheese with milk alternatives,
you can make tetrazzini


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>> On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 02:19:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
>>> be
>>> an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
>>> including
>>> whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add some onion,
>>> probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey breast, peas and
>>> some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I have some boxed
>>> turkey broth to add.
>>>
>>> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini,

>>
>> Why can't you make it using a nondairy creamer for the white sauce?
>> It wouldn't be Tetrazzini to me without lots of parmesan cheese, so I
>> guess that's what nutritional yeast is for when you can't eat dairy.

>
> Because nondairy creamer contains dairy! Why it has that name is beyond
> me. I have used nutritional yeast for some things. Not enough that I want
> to keep it in the house and it is hard to find that doesn't contain dairy.
> I don't think I would like the flavor of it in this.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Dairy_Creamer


soya milk and flour.

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>>> On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 02:19:25 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would love to make this but since I can't have dairy, it will have to
>>>> be
>>>> an approximation. I have some stuff that I am trying to use up
>>>> including
>>>> whole wheat linguine and boxed mushroom gravy. I will add some onion,
>>>> probably a little celery, a few fresh mushrooms, turkey breast, peas
>>>> and
>>>> some black pepper and parsley. If it seems too dry, I have some boxed
>>>> turkey broth to add.
>>>>
>>>> I hope it is good. I miss stuff like tetrazzini,
>>>
>>> Why can't you make it using a nondairy creamer for the white sauce?
>>> It wouldn't be Tetrazzini to me without lots of parmesan cheese, so I
>>> guess that's what nutritional yeast is for when you can't eat dairy.

>>
>> Because nondairy creamer contains dairy! Why it has that name is beyond
>> me. I have used nutritional yeast for some things. Not enough that I
>> want
>> to keep it in the house and it is hard to find that doesn't contain
>> dairy.
>> I don't think I would like the flavor of it in this.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Dairy_Creamer

>
> soya milk and flour.


I try not to do much soy though. I have to have it for margarine but other
than that I try not to consume it. Soy really messes with my thyroid. This
dish did come out well. If I do make it again, I will use the canned turkey
as the texture is much better than what I used.

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