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On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:59:58 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
> On 8/11/2014 5:52 PM, sf wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:52:48 -0700 (PDT), Cherry > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> Someone a while back posted this article in the New York Times where an Asian restaurant did away with their gas cookers in installed a bank of single induction hobs. Not only did they fine them excellent for their Chinese cooking but it created a much more pleasant working environment for their chefs. > >> > >> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/di...2RI%3A16%22%7D > > > > So much for the claims that Chinese restaurants couldn't use electric. > > > Um, read on please: <snip> > > “If you gave me a choice, I would definitely prefer gas, especially if I > am making fried rice,” Mrs. Tran said. “When I do fried rice, I have to > toss it around. With induction, you have to kind of stir-fry, and it > doesn’t get that charred kind of charcoal taste.” I did read it and frankly, "that charred kind of charcoal taste" has never been present in any fried rice I've ever eaten. Maybe he thinks burned rice is something to be proud of, but I don't. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On 8/11/2014 9:49 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:59:58 -0600, Mayo > wrote: > >> On 8/11/2014 5:52 PM, sf wrote: >>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:52:48 -0700 (PDT), Cherry > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Someone a while back posted this article in the New York Times where an Asian restaurant did away with their gas cookers in installed a bank of single induction hobs. Not only did they fine them excellent for their Chinese cooking but it created a much more pleasant working environment for their chefs. >>>> >>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/di...2RI%3A16%22%7D >>> >>> So much for the claims that Chinese restaurants couldn't use electric. >>> >> Um, read on please: > <snip> >> >> “If you gave me a choice, I would definitely prefer gas, especially if I >> am making fried rice,” Mrs. Tran said. “When I do fried rice, I have to >> toss it around. With induction, you have to kind of stir-fry, and it >> doesn’t get that charred kind of charcoal taste.” > > I did read it and frankly, "that charred kind of charcoal taste" has > never been present in any fried rice I've ever eaten. Maybe he thinks > burned rice is something to be proud of, but I don't. > > I admit that's a new one on me. Sometimes when you make fried rice there is a style that is a bit drier than others, and the grains show some wok sear to them. But not charcoal, sounds like someone was at a loss for the right words. Regardless you'll never get the BTUs from induction that you can from a commercial wok burner. http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Comme...N%3DB00E5N70YC Imperial Commercial Chinese Range 6 Burners 174" Wide With Slanted Wok Holder Nat Gas Model Icra-6 Four burner types are available: Three-ring Burner 110,000 BTU/hr. (32 kw) Jet Burner 100,000 BTU/hr. (29 kw) Non-clogging Jet Burner 125,000 BTU/hr. (37 kw) 32 Tip Jet Burner 160,000 BTU/hr. |
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> > I did read it and frankly, "that charred kind of charcoal taste" has never been present in any fried rice I've ever eaten. Maybe he thinks burned rice is something to be proud of, but I don't.
> > I admit that's a new one on me. > > > > Sometimes when you make fried rice there is a style that is a bit drier than others, and the grains show some wok sear to them. > > But not charcoal, sounds like someone was at a loss for the right words. > > Regardless you'll never get the BTUs from induction that you can from a commercial wok burner. > http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Comme...N%3DB00E5N70YC > > Imperial Commercial Chinese Range 6 Burners 174" Wide With Slanted Wok Holder Nat Gas Model Icra-6 > > Four burner types are available: Three-ring Burner 110,000 BTU/hr. (32 kw) Jet Burner 100,000 BTU/hr. (29 kw) Non-clogging Jet Burner 125,000 BTU/hr. (37 kw) 32 Tip Jet Burner 160,000 BTU/hr. It is possible to buy induction woks. Bloody expensive mind! http://www.miele.co.uk/hobs/cs1223-1...ction-wok-183/ Cherry |
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On 8/12/2014 1:40 AM, Cherry wrote:
>>> I did read it and frankly, "that charred kind of charcoal taste" has never been present in any fried rice I've ever eaten. Maybe he thinks burned rice is something to be proud of, but I don't. >> >> I admit that's a new one on me. >> >> >> >> Sometimes when you make fried rice there is a style that is a bit drier than others, and the grains show some wok sear to them. >> >> But not charcoal, sounds like someone was at a loss for the right words. >> >> Regardless you'll never get the BTUs from induction that you can from a > commercial wok burner. > >> http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Comme...N%3DB00E5N70YC >> >> Imperial Commercial Chinese Range 6 Burners 174" Wide With Slanted Wok > Holder Nat Gas Model Icra-6 >> >> Four burner types are available: Three-ring Burner 110,000 BTU/hr. (32 kw) Jet Burner 100,000 BTU/hr. (29 kw) Non-clogging Jet Burner 125,000 > BTU/hr. (37 kw) 32 Tip Jet Burner 160,000 BTU/hr. > > It is possible to buy induction woks. Bloody expensive mind! > > http://www.miele.co.uk/hobs/cs1223-1...ction-wok-183/ > > Cherry > Gorgeous German engineering as always - but no specific BTU mention. I'd be loathe to throw that into commercial use at any cost. Still it's far cheaper than the one I linked to. |
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I got my blood-builder shot this morning and a shot of B-12 to boost
energy so I took myself shopping and brought a magnet with me. Got a large skillet and a small skillet and a medium pot. Thought I was buying a small pot at BB&B. It wasn't in a box. She went and found one in a box, but when I got home it was a double boiler which I did not want. Have to take it back. Also went to Bealls and with a 25% off coupon bought myself a couple of cute tops and a pair of cargo capris in a color I was missing. Then I went to Ross, where I found a pot (others were at Marshall's) and bought myself 2 dresses with the Tuesday geezer discount. I think one might be good for the reunion. The other will probably sail with me to Europe in November. Also got a big bag of dog food. I never fed the dog, it was Barry's job, so I didn't know how fast it got used up. Mickey eats his fill and leaves the rest, so I mostly feed him the kibble once a day, but he takes a bigger scoop than I'd have thought. He's still at a good weight, so I'm not worried. Got $5 off the bag with coupon Sherpa on my smartphone. If you haven't tried this free app, you should. All kinds of store coupons. Also went to Sam's and got steaks to freeze. OMG meat has gotten so expensive! I bought 3 rib eyes, each good for two meals for me and they were $30! Found that they finally carried my favorite breakfast cereal and got some of those and they had a good deal on canned, Alaska pink salmon. I am making salmon croquettes and spaghetti, a favorite comfort meal, tonight. I used the self-checkout for my 3 items and was out in a flash. The salmon is a good source of calcium, especially when I mash in the bones. I am on steroids, so I need a lot of extra calcium. Came home and made two chili dogs for lunch and had my daily bowl of tapioca pudding with mango, papaya and blueberries (washed n vinegar water and rinsed) with a little home made, extra-thick whipped cream. I may be ready for a nap. Tomorrow is my birthday so I got me some presents. The washing machine repair man is due at 11 AM and the water softener repair man is due at 1 PM. I'm thinking of getting a little Dairy Queen cake and celebrating with the repair men. :-) -- From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas |
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On 8/12/2014 2:06 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> I got my blood-builder shot this morning and a shot of B-12 to boost > energy so I took myself shopping and brought a magnet with me. Got a > large skillet and a small skillet and a medium pot. Thought I was > buying a small pot at BB&B. It wasn't in a box. She went and found one > in a box, but when I got home it was a double boiler which I did not > want. Have to take it back. > > Also went to Bealls and with a 25% off coupon bought myself a couple of > cute tops and a pair of cargo capris in a color I was missing. Then I > went to Ross, where I found a pot (others were at Marshall's) and bought > myself 2 dresses with the Tuesday geezer discount. I think one might be > good for the reunion. The other will probably sail with me to Europe in > November. > > Also got a big bag of dog food. I never fed the dog, it was Barry's > job, so I didn't know how fast it got used up. Mickey eats his fill and > leaves the rest, so I mostly feed him the kibble once a day, but he > takes a bigger scoop than I'd have thought. He's still at a good > weight, so I'm not worried. Got $5 off the bag with coupon Sherpa on my > smartphone. If you haven't tried this free app, you should. All kinds > of store coupons. > > Also went to Sam's and got steaks to freeze. OMG meat has gotten so > expensive! I bought 3 rib eyes, each good for two meals for me and they > were $30! > > Found that they finally carried my favorite breakfast cereal and got > some of those and they had a good deal on canned, Alaska pink salmon. I > am making salmon croquettes and spaghetti, a favorite comfort meal, > tonight. I used the self-checkout for my 3 items and was out in a flash. > > The salmon is a good source of calcium, especially when I mash in the > bones. I am on steroids, so I need a lot of extra calcium. > > Came home and made two chili dogs for lunch and had my daily bowl of > tapioca pudding with mango, papaya and blueberries (washed n vinegar > water and rinsed) with a little home made, extra-thick whipped cream. > > I may be ready for a nap. > > Tomorrow is my birthday so I got me some presents. The washing machine > repair man is due at 11 AM and the water softener repair man is due at 1 > PM. I'm thinking of getting a little Dairy Queen cake and celebrating > with the repair men. :-) We have used the self-checkout at Sam's, even though George dislikes them. The receipt gives you a count, and we counted our items and we could not get our numbers to much. We forgot that we got a soft drink, and we were not counting that. Mystery solved. On another occasion, we did the self-checkout and we were on our way to the car, when we wondered if we scanned the case of toilet paper in the bottom of the basket - nope, it was not on the receipt, so back we went. George pulled into the regular check out line, this time. I may never get him to self check, again. :-) Hope you have a delightful birthday. Becca |
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![]() "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message b.com... > I got my blood-builder shot this morning and a shot of B-12 to boost > energy so I took myself shopping and brought a magnet with me. Got a > large skillet and a small skillet and a medium pot. Thought I was buying > a small pot at BB&B. It wasn't in a box. She went and found one in a > box, but when I got home it was a double boiler which I did not want. > Have to take it back. > > Also went to Bealls and with a 25% off coupon bought myself a couple of > cute tops and a pair of cargo capris in a color I was missing. Then I > went to Ross, where I found a pot (others were at Marshall's) and bought > myself 2 dresses with the Tuesday geezer discount. I think one might be > good for the reunion. The other will probably sail with me to Europe in > November. > > Also got a big bag of dog food. I never fed the dog, it was Barry's job, > so I didn't know how fast it got used up. Mickey eats his fill and leaves > the rest, so I mostly feed him the kibble once a day, but he takes a > bigger scoop than I'd have thought. He's still at a good weight, so I'm > not worried. Got $5 off the bag with coupon Sherpa on my smartphone. If > you haven't tried this free app, you should. All kinds of store coupons. > > Also went to Sam's and got steaks to freeze. OMG meat has gotten so > expensive! I bought 3 rib eyes, each good for two meals for me and they > were $30! > > Found that they finally carried my favorite breakfast cereal and got some > of those and they had a good deal on canned, Alaska pink salmon. I am > making salmon croquettes and spaghetti, a favorite comfort meal, tonight. > I used the self-checkout for my 3 items and was out in a flash. > > The salmon is a good source of calcium, especially when I mash in the > bones. I am on steroids, so I need a lot of extra calcium. > > Came home and made two chili dogs for lunch and had my daily bowl of > tapioca pudding with mango, papaya and blueberries (washed n vinegar water > and rinsed) with a little home made, extra-thick whipped cream. > > I may be ready for a nap. Heh I would be ready for a nap after all that shopping ![]() > Tomorrow is my birthday so I got me some presents. The washing machine > repair man is due at 11 AM and the water softener repair man is due at 1 > PM. I'm thinking of getting a little Dairy Queen cake and celebrating > with the repair men. :-) Good idea ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 8/12/2014 3:12 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message > b.com... >> I got my blood-builder shot this morning and a shot of B-12 to boost >> energy so I took myself shopping and brought a magnet with me. Got a >> large skillet and a small skillet and a medium pot. Thought I was >> buying a small pot at BB&B. It wasn't in a box. She went and found >> one in a box, but when I got home it was a double boiler which I did >> not want. Have to take it back. >> >> Also went to Bealls and with a 25% off coupon bought myself a couple >> of cute tops and a pair of cargo capris in a color I was missing. >> Then I went to Ross, where I found a pot (others were at Marshall's) >> and bought myself 2 dresses with the Tuesday geezer discount. I think >> one might be good for the reunion. The other will probably sail with >> me to Europe in November. >> >> Also got a big bag of dog food. I never fed the dog, it was Barry's >> job, so I didn't know how fast it got used up. Mickey eats his fill >> and leaves the rest, so I mostly feed him the kibble once a day, but >> he takes a bigger scoop than I'd have thought. He's still at a good >> weight, so I'm not worried. Got $5 off the bag with coupon Sherpa on >> my smartphone. If you haven't tried this free app, you should. All >> kinds of store coupons. >> >> Also went to Sam's and got steaks to freeze. OMG meat has gotten so >> expensive! I bought 3 rib eyes, each good for two meals for me and >> they were $30! >> >> Found that they finally carried my favorite breakfast cereal and got >> some of those and they had a good deal on canned, Alaska pink salmon. >> I am making salmon croquettes and spaghetti, a favorite comfort meal, >> tonight. I used the self-checkout for my 3 items and was out in a flash. >> >> The salmon is a good source of calcium, especially when I mash in the >> bones. I am on steroids, so I need a lot of extra calcium. >> >> Came home and made two chili dogs for lunch and had my daily bowl of >> tapioca pudding with mango, papaya and blueberries (washed n vinegar >> water and rinsed) with a little home made, extra-thick whipped cream. >> >> I may be ready for a nap. > > Heh I would be ready for a nap after all that shopping ![]() > > > >> Tomorrow is my birthday so I got me some presents. The washing >> machine repair man is due at 11 AM and the water softener repair man >> is due at 1 PM. I'm thinking of getting a little Dairy Queen cake and >> celebrating with the repair men. :-) > > Good idea ![]() > The dresses and the pots. -- From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas |
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:06:46 -0500, Janet Wilder >
wrote: > Tomorrow is my birthday so I got me some presents. The washing machine > repair man is due at 11 AM and the water softener repair man is due at 1 > PM. I'm thinking of getting a little Dairy Queen cake and celebrating > with the repair men. :-) Happy birthday - have a great one! -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On 8/12/2014 3:06 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> Tomorrow is my birthday so I got me some presents. The washing machine > repair man is due at 11 AM and the water softener repair man is due at 1 > PM. I'm thinking of getting a little Dairy Queen cake and celebrating > with the repair men. :-) > I like your attitude, Janet! Happy birthday. |
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On 8/12/2014 5:36 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 8/12/2014 3:06 PM, Janet Wilder wrote: > >> Tomorrow is my birthday so I got me some presents. The washing machine >> repair man is due at 11 AM and the water softener repair man is due at 1 >> PM. I'm thinking of getting a little Dairy Queen cake and celebrating >> with the repair men. :-) >> > I like your attitude, Janet! > Happy birthday. > We Jersey Girls are fighters. -- From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas |
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On 8/12/2014 1:06 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> I got my blood-builder shot this morning and a shot of B-12 to boost > energy so I took myself shopping and brought a magnet with me. Got a > large skillet and a small skillet and a medium pot. Thought I was > buying a small pot at BB&B. It wasn't in a box. She went and found one > in a box, but when I got home it was a double boiler which I did not > want. Have to take it back. > > Also went to Bealls and with a 25% off coupon bought myself a couple of > cute tops and a pair of cargo capris in a color I was missing. Then I > went to Ross, where I found a pot (others were at Marshall's) and bought > myself 2 dresses with the Tuesday geezer discount. I think one might be > good for the reunion. The other will probably sail with me to Europe in > November. > > Also got a big bag of dog food. I never fed the dog, it was Barry's > job, so I didn't know how fast it got used up. Mickey eats his fill and > leaves the rest, so I mostly feed him the kibble once a day, but he > takes a bigger scoop than I'd have thought. He's still at a good > weight, so I'm not worried. Got $5 off the bag with coupon Sherpa on my > smartphone. If you haven't tried this free app, you should. All kinds > of store coupons. > > Also went to Sam's and got steaks to freeze. OMG meat has gotten so > expensive! I bought 3 rib eyes, each good for two meals for me and they > were $30! > > Found that they finally carried my favorite breakfast cereal and got > some of those and they had a good deal on canned, Alaska pink salmon. I > am making salmon croquettes and spaghetti, a favorite comfort meal, > tonight. I used the self-checkout for my 3 items and was out in a flash. > > The salmon is a good source of calcium, especially when I mash in the > bones. I am on steroids, so I need a lot of extra calcium. > > Came home and made two chili dogs for lunch and had my daily bowl of > tapioca pudding with mango, papaya and blueberries (washed n vinegar > water and rinsed) with a little home made, extra-thick whipped cream. > > I may be ready for a nap. > > Tomorrow is my birthday so I got me some presents. The washing machine > repair man is due at 11 AM and the water softener repair man is due at 1 > PM. I'm thinking of getting a little Dairy Queen cake and celebrating > with the repair men. :-) > > > Now THAT was a day! You go girl. |
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Janet Wilder wrote:
> > Tomorrow is my birthday so I got me some presents. The washing machine > repair man is due at 11 AM and the water softener repair man is due at 1 > PM. I'm thinking of getting a little Dairy Queen cake and celebrating > with the repair men. :-) Hope you have a great birthday! :-D G. |
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On 8/13/2014 3:29 PM, Gary wrote:
> Janet Wilder wrote: >> >> Tomorrow is my birthday so I got me some presents. The washing machine >> repair man is due at 11 AM and the water softener repair man is due at 1 >> PM. I'm thinking of getting a little Dairy Queen cake and celebrating >> with the repair men. :-) > > Hope you have a great birthday! :-D > > G. > I did! My friends took me to the Country Club for dinner on the patio. We had some nachos, spring rolls and guacamole as starters and I shared a Chilean Sea Bass dish with asparagus and spinach with my friend. I even got up and danced a little. Drank decaf coffee on the rocks. The washer is fixed. It took the 4 hours. I did get my pajama top back. The water softener is trash. I called Culligan and I'm going to rent one from them. No sense paying $1500 for a new one when I don't know how long Ill be here. I have my RO with Culligan and their service is wonderful. -- From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas |
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 00:40:01 -0700 (PDT), Cherry >
wrote: > > It is possible to buy induction woks. Bloody expensive mind! > > http://www.miele.co.uk/hobs/cs1223-1...ction-wok-183/ I *love* that cooktop configuration and will have one just like that in my next lifetime. ![]() -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 00:40:01 -0700 (PDT), Cherry >
wrote: > It is possible to buy induction woks. Bloody expensive mind! > > http://www.miele.co.uk/hobs/cs1223-1...ction-wok-183/ BTW: I think that was the hob (maybe the wok is included), here is the wok http://www.miele.co.uk/accessories/C...ction-Wok-116/ -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On 8/12/14, 12:20 AM, Mayo wrote:
> Regardless you'll never get the BTUs from induction that you can from a > commercial wok burner. That is true, which is why so many home cooks wind up using the burner from an outdoor turkey fryer as their heat source. One of our pleasant discoveries upon moving to Florida is a Pei Wei Asian Diner located a mile or so from our tennis club. (If you don't know it, Pei Wei is owned by P.F. Chang.) Their rice bowls and other dishes are first-rate. We eat there regularly, at least once a week. In particular, the Pei Wei Spicy and Sesame sauced dishes are terrific. But my point in mentioning them is that they have a tiny counter, with only four seats, right next to the small open "kitchen." The "kitchen" has a cold station, and three hot stations, each with two woks. The wok burners are spectacular -- they must be at least 100Kbtu each, with flames shooting up about a foot whenever the wok is removed. Dishes are cranked out in around 90 seconds each; cleaning is done by sloshing a ladle or two of water from a huge stock pot behind the hot station for about two seconds, and dumping. It's a great show! I would love to get my hands on one of their woks, just to closely examine the built-up finish. Their Web site says they have 190 locations. If there's one near you, I highly recommend trying it. -- Larry |
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On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 12:20:57 AM UTC-4, Mayo wrote:
> Regardless you'll never get the BTUs from induction that you can from a > commercial wok burner. Here's a link to a commercial induction wok burner: http://www.cooktek.com/product/cooki...ok-5kw-3-phase Not something you'd use in a home setting, but neither are the ones you linked. It does list a "BTU equivalent" but you need to remember that induction burners put over 90% of the heat into the pan, and gas burners are rated for BTU "input" not actual output. Induction is used to smelt ore. You can certainly get enough heat from induction if it can be used to melt metals. It's mostly a question of how much electrical capacity you have. Bill Ranck Blacksburg, VA |
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On 8/11/2014 5:49 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:59:58 -0600, Mayo > wrote: > >> On 8/11/2014 5:52 PM, sf wrote: >>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:52:48 -0700 (PDT), Cherry > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Someone a while back posted this article in the New York Times where an Asian restaurant did away with their gas cookers in installed a bank of single induction hobs. Not only did they fine them excellent for their Chinese cooking but it created a much more pleasant working environment for their chefs. >>>> >>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/di...2RI%3A16%22%7D >>> >>> So much for the claims that Chinese restaurants couldn't use electric. >>> >> Um, read on please: > <snip> >> >> “If you gave me a choice, I would definitely prefer gas, especially if I >> am making fried rice,” Mrs. Tran said. “When I do fried rice, I have to >> toss it around. With induction, you have to kind of stir-fry, and it >> doesn’t get that charred kind of charcoal taste.” > > I did read it and frankly, "that charred kind of charcoal taste" has > never been present in any fried rice I've ever eaten. Maybe he thinks > burned rice is something to be proud of, but I don't. > > That's pretty goofy. I've never had charred fried rice at a Chinese or Vietnamese restaurant either. I tend to burn my fried rice a little but that's because I'm pretty goofy. I use a carbon steel, flat bottomed wok on my induction stove. Oddly enough, it works fine. I made some spicy fried chicken thighs in the wok last night. It was marinated in kim chee paste and Sriracha but that was still not hot enough for me. My plan was to inject hot sauce into the chicken but couldn't find my injection thingie. I vow to do that next time - I'm through messing around! :-) |
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