On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:49:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> Isn't Stuart Andersons the Black Angus? We have one here. No peanuts on
> the floor there either but also doesn't give me the feeling that it is
> clean. I'm not even a super neatnick but stuff like wads of dust on things
> hanging on the wall or on picture frames or having to step over piles of
> peanut shells doesn't thrill me.

Black Angus was founded by Stuart Anderson (the person). Report your
filthy restaurant to the corporate office, which is supposedly located
in based in Los Altos, CA.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/12/2014 12:01 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:03:38 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> It's a stupid idea. If you had slipped and fallen you could have sued
>>> them. John and I ate in a place like that once and I did slip and fall.
>>> They hastily sent a manager to the table who took down all my info.
>>> About a week later I got a call to make sure I was okay. They were in
>>> CYA mode, making sure I wasn't planning to sue their asses off. I
>>> probably should have sued, mostly because the food wasn't all that
>>> great.
>>
>> Loose peanut shells provide a lot of traction. Must have been the
>> wine doing the walking.
>>
>> -sw
>>
> I hadn't even had a glass of wine yet. And yes, the floor was wooden.
> Whether or not it would have been slick without the peanut shells doesn't
> really matter... trash doesn't belong on the floor.

Agree! It was even difficult for the diners closer to the window because
they had to throw their shells past us.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:15:01 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I hadn't even had a glass of wine yet. And yes, the floor was wooden.
>> Whether or not it would have been slick without the peanut shells
>> doesn't really matter... trash doesn't belong on the floor.
>
> I don't disagree that it's a stupid idea. Unless you're standing,
> it's actually more trouble to throw the shells on the floor than it is
> to place them in a receptacle on the table - especially if you're
> sitting in the wall seats of a 4 person booth. Those same places
> don't promote throwing your spare rib bones or spent chicken wings on
> the floor.

Yes, it was. Somebody at our table did drop a napkin and I said not to
worry about it.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I hated walking through the piles of shells to get to our table and I was
>> seated at the end of the booth so I had to keep looking at them down
>> there.
>
> So, why didn't you turn around and leave? Just curious.
>
>> What is with this stuff? Can we not serve our food on plates? And why
>> do we throw the trash on the floor? Am I being a stick in the mud? Or
>> do people really like this?
>
> I guess because people who *don't* like it actually eat there?

Well, I sure don't plan to go back there. Only reason we did was because
Angela wasn't with us. She can't have peanuts and in a place like that
there is no way to keep her food safe from them.

My actual meal was fine. Just not good enough that I'd want to venture out
there again or put myself through all the crap on the floor.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:11:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> <snip>
>>
>> Hop Jacks serves their food in a pie tin. Yep. A lightweight, slippery
>> bottomed metal pie tin that wants to shoot across the table as you try to
>> eat.
>>
>> What is with this stuff? Can we not serve our food on plates? And why
>> do
>> we throw the trash on the floor? Am I being a stick in the mud? Or do
>> people really like this?
>
> I don't get it either, but people like it or they wouldn't be in
> business. Japan is worse.
> http://piximus.net/others/4-amazing-...awesome-themes
> http://www.citylab.com/design/2012/1...taurants/3861/
> http://www.theguardian.com/travel/20...nts-japan-food

I don't mind some themed restaurants but I prefer having my food served on
plates. This place also used the plastic baskets with the paper liner. I
don't really get that either.

I do remember dining at the Madonna Inn.

http://www.madonnainn.com/

I guess the big draw there were the themed rooms and it does look like it
has changed a lot since we were there. The restaurant we dined in had life
sized moving...uh...mannequins? Not sure what to call them. There were
several but the only one I remember well was a woman on a swing who swooped
back and forth above our heads and between two rows of tables. This was not
a cheap place. The food was good and it was very clean.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:14:36 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
> > wrote:
>
>> It seems irresponsible because of all the folks who have peanut
>> allergies.
>> The residues get all over folks shoes and get tracked around. I think
>> the
>> practice should be forbidden on those grounds.
>> >
>
> I think that peanut allergy thing is overblown and ridiculous. I know
> absolutely NO one with a peanut allergy, and yet I know someone who
> carries an epi pen at all times because she's that allergic to onions.
> I even know someone who is allergic to beans, yes - beans (not the
> green vegetable)! If I can know even one person with a weird allergy
> like that and not a soul who is allergic to peanuts, it's overblown.
>
I actually know several. One year I was in charge of class parties for all
of the food allergic kids in my daughter's grade and they put them all in
one class to make it easier. One had the life threatening allergies and
there was another like Angela who is just intolerant.

In NY, they put all of the food allergy kids in a glassed off room at luck
to keep them safe. There were about 20 but it was a big school.

The wife of a coworker of my husband was allergic to peanuts. I did not
know this until we went to a formal dinner and she began screaming at her
husband because he brought peanuts to the table. I really wanted some
peanuts too. The food they served was not to my liking and just plain
wasn't good. It wasn't just me that noticed this. They did not mix the
seasonings in well. Those of us who ate at the buffet first complained of
too much salt in the food and those who ate last said there was no salt.
They also put shards of raw beet in the salad and they were so sharp that
they were sticking into my tongue.

I too think that the peanut thing has gone overboard because peanuts in and
of themselves are no more likely to kill someone than something like cheese
to a person with a dairy allergy or cilantro to a person who is allergic to
that. I actually know of a Latino waitress with a life threatening cilantro
allergy.

But... I can see why peanuts can be different than other foods. When a
person has a life threatening allergy, they can react (not all will but some
can) to airborne particles and peanuts put off dust that stuff like cheese
and cilantro aren't going to do. So in an enclosed place with recirculated
air, like on a plane, that could be bad. People are also more likely to
wipe their hands on stuff after eating peanut too because they can leave an
oily/salty residue and allergic people can react to that as well.

We make it a point to give out peanut free things for Halloween. Many years
we don't even give candy. I leaned last year that nobody wants pretzels.
Won't do that again. But they do like fruit snacks and toys.

On 8/12/2014 1:40 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:00:11 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 8/12/2014 11:48 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 8/12/2014 1:26 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:14:36 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It seems irresponsible because of all the folks who have peanut
>>>>> allergies.
>>>>> The residues get all over folks shoes and get tracked around. I
>>>>> think the practice should be forbidden on those grounds.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think that peanut allergy thing is overblown and ridiculous. I know
>>>> absolutely NO one with a peanut allergy, and yet I know someone who
>>>> carries an epi pen at all times because she's that allergic to onions.
>>>> I even know someone who is allergic to beans, yes - beans (not the
>>>> green vegetable)! If I can know even one person with a weird allergy
>>>> like that and not a soul who is allergic to peanuts, it's overblown.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> After a few years of not doing so, they went back to giving out packets
>>> of peanuts on airplanes. I don't think I've ever met anyone who was
>>> allgeric to peanuts. Lord knows if it had been prevalent when I was in
>>> grade school none of us would have been able to bring our lunches to
>>> school - nearly everyone brought and ate PB&J sandwiches.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Something has changed since those days:
>>
>> http://content.time.com/time/health/...869095,00.html
>>
>> Between 1997 and 2007, the number of children under 18 who suffered from
>> food allergies jumped 17%, according to the Centers for Disease Control
>> and Prevention. Experts don't disagree that the incidence of food
>> allergies has increased, but there isn't much consensus as to why.
>>
>>
> Let's blame Monsanto. They're my favorite whipping boy.
>
>
All that GMO crap and terminator seeds, wouldn't surprise me at all.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/12/2014 1:26 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:14:36 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> It seems irresponsible because of all the folks who have peanut
>>> allergies.
>>> The residues get all over folks shoes and get tracked around. I think
>>> the
>>> practice should be forbidden on those grounds.
>>>>
>>
>> I think that peanut allergy thing is overblown and ridiculous. I know
>> absolutely NO one with a peanut allergy, and yet I know someone who
>> carries an epi pen at all times because she's that allergic to onions.
>> I even know someone who is allergic to beans, yes - beans (not the
>> green vegetable)! If I can know even one person with a weird allergy
>> like that and not a soul who is allergic to peanuts, it's overblown.
>>
>>
> After a few years of not doing so, they went back to giving out packets of
> peanuts on airplanes. I don't think I've ever met anyone who was allgeric
> to peanuts. Lord knows if it had been prevalent when I was in grade
> school none of us would have been able to bring our lunches to school -
> nearly everyone brought and ate PB&J sandwiches.

I forgot about those at the dance studio. I don't know who they are now but
there are more than one. Used to be a girl who was older than Angela. Not
only did she have the peanut allergy but asthma and diabetes as well. I
know there is a younger girl because the studio owner said that the girl
stopped what she was doing and said that her lips felt funny and that
someone must have eaten peanuts in there. We do have a teacher who is
vegetarian and likely did eat a peanut butter sandwich in that room.
Luckily, the girl was fine but there is now a nut ban there.

If you are mostly around older people, you may not run into many with peanut
allergies. But more and more kids are getting them.

"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 8/12/2014 11:26 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:14:36 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> It seems irresponsible because of all the folks who have peanut
>>> allergies.
>>> The residues get all over folks shoes and get tracked around. I think
>>> the
>>> practice should be forbidden on those grounds.
>>>>
>>
>> I think that peanut allergy thing is overblown and ridiculous. I know
>> absolutely NO one with a peanut allergy, and yet I know someone who
>> carries an epi pen at all times because she's that allergic to onions.
>> I even know someone who is allergic to beans, yes - beans (not the
>> green vegetable)! If I can know even one person with a weird allergy
>> like that and not a soul who is allergic to peanuts, it's overblown.
>>
>>
> 3-4% of Americans have a serious food allergy, but indications are that
> .6% of them are allergic to peanuts.
>
>
> What's odd is how that has spiked up lately.
>
> http://content.time.com/time/health/...869095,00.html
>
> Between 1997 and 2007, the number of children under 18 who suffered from
> food allergies jumped 17%, according to the Centers for Disease Control
> and Prevention.

Yes and nobody really knows why for sure.

"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:52:04 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 8/12/2014 11:27 AM, sf wrote:
>> > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:46:00 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Didn't the Outback Steakhouse first start the peanuts on the floor
>> >> thing? I thought it was supposed
>> >> to be reflective of an Australian experience, somehow.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Five Guys has free peanuts, but I didn't see any shells on the floor.
>> >
>> >
>> Do they sell beer and wine?
>>
>> There's usually a reason for salty snacks.
>
> No alcohol. I have no idea why they do it. It's a fast food
> hamburger chain fer cripe's sake... who puts peanuts and FF burgers
> together? Someone here said they do it so customers will have
> something to eat while they wait. I've only eaten there once and the
> wait wasn't very long; so if I was a company executive, I'd put
> peanuts in the unnecessary business expense column and 86 it ASAP.
>
I think it's their way to keep people with peanut allergies out. They fry
in peanut oil which may not be obvious. A big bag or trough or however they
display them of peanuts is.

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> We ate at Five Guys once and I saw no need to go back. We are spoiled by
> Whataburger, which is just fast food, but they are better than Five Guys,
> IMO.

I won't go. Have heard from others that they are greasy and not good.

On 8/12/2014 1:48 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:52:04 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 8/12/2014 11:27 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 06:46:00 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Didn't the Outback Steakhouse first start the peanuts on the floor thing? I thought it was supposed
>>>> to be reflective of an Australian experience, somehow.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Five Guys has free peanuts, but I didn't see any shells on the floor.
>>>
>>>
>> Do they sell beer and wine?
>>
>> There's usually a reason for salty snacks.
>
> No alcohol. I have no idea why they do it. It's a fast food
> hamburger chain fer cripe's sake... who puts peanuts and FF burgers
> together? Someone here said they do it so customers will have
> something to eat while they wait. I've only eaten there once and the
> wait wasn't very long; so if I was a company executive, I'd put
> peanuts in the unnecessary business expense column and 86 it ASAP.
>
>
I've eaten there all of one time also, didn't go back due to crowds and
noise.

I guess I missed the peanuts.

Odd pairing for sure.

On 8/12/2014 5:30 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> The Texas Roadhouse here doesn't have peanut shells on the floor...you can get a tin bucket full of
> peanuts, and an empty one for the shells.
>
> N.
>

They have the empty buckets here, too, but people throw them on the
floor. Those are damned good peanuts, BTW

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On 8/12/2014 5:51 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:03:40 -0500, Ema Nymton >
> wrote:
>
>> We ate at Five Guys once and I saw no need to go back. We are spoiled by
>> Whataburger, which is just fast food, but they are better than Five
>> Guys, IMO.
>>
>
> No Whataburger here that I know of. We saw it when we traveled, but
> weren't hungry enough to stop and eat when I spotted it. Looks like
> they've pretty much peppered Texas, but we weren't there.
>
>

It's a Texas based company. Their chicken strips are the greatest.
Absolutely non-greasy and made of real solid white meat chicken.

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On 8/12/2014 3:19 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:11:49 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> We ate at some Roadhouse tonight. Not Texas. Uh...Jimmy Macs. Not sure if
>> they are a chain or not. I had the chili and it was good although oddly a
>> bit too salty. But...
>>
>> They offer you free peanuts in the shell. If you want them, you use one of
>> those bamboo salad bowls and scoop your own from a feed trough. Then you
>> eat them and toss the shells on the floor. The filthy, uneven, cement
>> floor.
>> I hated walking through the piles of shells to get to our table and I was
>> seated at the end of the booth so I had to keep looking at them down there.
>>
>> What is the appeal of doing this? I ate one peanut. One. Not even a
>> double one. Just a single peanut and didn't want any more. Not that I
>> dislike peanuts but... The whole experience rather dampened my appetite and
>> I am glad that I only ordered the chili and not a meal.
>
> Some sort of trauma counselling might be in order?
> So sorry to hear about your ordeal, I hope it becomes a distant memory
> as soon as possible. Hang in there.
>
Does sarcasm spin counterclockwise down there too?

On 8/12/2014 3:53 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
> b.com...
>> On 8/12/2014 3:00 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:11:54 -0500, Janet Wilder >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/12/2014 8:46 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>> Didn't the Outback Steakhouse first start the peanuts on the floor
>>>>> thing? I thought it was supposed
>>>>> to be reflective of an Australian experience, somehow.
>>>>>
>>>>> N.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There was an earlier chain that did that, way before Outback. It was
>>>> also a western steak house kind of place and I can't remember the name,
>>>> but my kids loved that place. They sold ice cream sundae desserts in
>>>> little, plastic baseball caps, too.
>>>>
>>>> I really like Texas Road House. I know the floor is dirty and it's
>>>> loud, but they make a wonderful piece of prime rib and their baked
>>>> sweet
>>>> potato (I get it plain) is awesome. Their drinks are very good and
>>>> their service is wonderful.
>>>>
>>>> If Barry were alive and I was feeling well, we'd be there for my
>>>> birthday tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Have the very best birthday you can. Treat yourself to something --
>>> maybe something outrageous. Wishing you the very best birthday.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> Thanks, Janet, and everyone else for the birthday wishes.
>
> Well I am saving my birthday wishes for tomorrow)
>
>
At which point she'll be one happy year younger!

On 8/12/2014 4:30 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> The Texas Roadhouse here doesn't have peanut shells on the floor...you can get a tin bucket full of
> peanuts, and an empty one for the shells.
>
> N.
>
Wise manager.

On 8/12/2014 4:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>> On 8/12/2014 3:11 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> We ate at some Roadhouse tonight. Not Texas. Uh...Jimmy Macs. Not
>>> sure if they are a chain or not. I had the chili and it was good
>>> although oddly a bit too salty. But...
>>>
>>> They offer you free peanuts in the shell. If you want them, you use one
>>> of those bamboo salad bowls and scoop your own from a feed trough. Then
>>> you eat them and toss the shells on the floor. The filthy, uneven,
>>> cement floor.
>>>
>>> I hated walking through the piles of shells to get to our table and I
>>> was seated at the end of the booth so I had to keep looking at them down
>>> there.
>>>
>>> What is the appeal of doing this? I ate one peanut. One. Not even a
>>> double one. Just a single peanut and didn't want any more. Not that I
>>> dislike peanuts but... The whole experience rather dampened my appetite
>>> and I am glad that I only ordered the chili and not a meal. Oh and the
>>> burgers are served in a hubcap. Again, don't get it.
>>>
>>> Hop Jacks serves their food in a pie tin. Yep. A lightweight, slippery
>>> bottomed metal pie tin that wants to shoot across the table as you try
>>> to eat.
>>>
>>> What is with this stuff? Can we not serve our food on plates? And why
>>> do we throw the trash on the floor? Am I being a stick in the mud? Or
>>> do people really like this?
>>
>>
>> Folks _love_ TR...and I think one of their competitors Lone Star does
>> the same thing. It literally dates back to the days these types of
>> places were roadhouses or bars that served food.
>>
>> The salted nuts made for more drink orders.
>>
>> It's messy, but then again, who's seen the old style Stuart Andersons
>> steakhouse in ages?
>
> Isn't Stuart Andersons the Black Angus?

Yes.

> We have one here. No peanuts
> on the floor there either but also doesn't give me the feeling that it
> is clean. I'm not even a super neatnick but stuff like wads of dust on
> things hanging on the wall or on picture frames or having to step over
> piles of peanut shells doesn't thrill me.

They're an older chain for sure, maybe yours need new management.

I still like those tall upholstered booths.

And they turn out a decent steak, the prime rib is cut too thin for my
liking.

On 8/12/2014 4:51 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:03:38 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> It's a stupid idea. If you had slipped and fallen you could have sued
>>> them. John and I ate in a place like that once and I did slip and fall.
>>> They hastily sent a manager to the table who took down all my info.
>>> About a week later I got a call to make sure I was okay. They were in
>>> CYA mode, making sure I wasn't planning to sue their asses off. I
>>> probably should have sued, mostly because the food wasn't all that
>>> great.
>>
>> Loose peanut shells provide a lot of traction. Must have been the
>> wine doing the walking.
>
> These did not provide traction. They were indeed slippery and I was
> trying to walk around them which made me walk a very odd path. They
> didn't bother to sweep them up once while I was there and the floor was
> uneven to begin with.

Case closed then.

On 8/12/2014 4:51 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:03:40 -0500, Ema Nymton >
> wrote:
>
>> We ate at Five Guys once and I saw no need to go back. We are spoiled by
>> Whataburger, which is just fast food, but they are better than Five
>> Guys, IMO.
>>
>
> No Whataburger here that I know of. We saw it when we traveled, but
> weren't hungry enough to stop and eat when I spotted it. Looks like
> they've pretty much peppered Texas, but we weren't there.
>
>
Really good burgers for a fast food place.

But not as good as In and Out.

On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 6:46:00 AM UTC-7, Nancy2 wrote:

> Didn't the Outback Steakhouse first start the peanuts on the floor thing? I thought it was supposed
> to be reflective of an Australian experience, somehow.
>

The former Come Back Inn, west of Chicago, did it forever.

The Ground Round chain (repurposed HoJo restaurants) did it across the
country.

Janet Wilder wrote:
>Nancy2 wrote:
>> Didn't the Outback Steakhouse first start the peanuts on the floor thing? I thought it was supposed
>> to be reflective of an Australian experience, somehow.
>
>There was an earlier chain that did that, way before Outback. It was
>also a western steak house kind of place and I can't remember the name,
>but my kids loved that place.

Some forty years ago local eateries in north western Montana served
in-shell peanuts and they weren't chains. I think every bar and
eatery in Whitefish offered in-shell peanuts, Kalispell too.

On 8/12/2014 5:32 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>> On 8/12/2014 11:26 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:14:36 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems irresponsible because of all the folks who have peanut
>>>> allergies.
>>>> The residues get all over folks shoes and get tracked around. I
>>>> think the
>>>> practice should be forbidden on those grounds.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I think that peanut allergy thing is overblown and ridiculous. I know
>>> absolutely NO one with a peanut allergy, and yet I know someone who
>>> carries an epi pen at all times because she's that allergic to onions.
>>> I even know someone who is allergic to beans, yes - beans (not the
>>> green vegetable)! If I can know even one person with a weird allergy
>>> like that and not a soul who is allergic to peanuts, it's overblown.
>>>
>>>
>> 3-4% of Americans have a serious food allergy, but indications are
>> that .6% of them are allergic to peanuts.
>>
>>
>> What's odd is how that has spiked up lately.
>>
>> http://content.time.com/time/health/...869095,00.html
>>
>> Between 1997 and 2007, the number of children under 18 who suffered
>> from food allergies jumped 17%, according to the Centers for Disease
>> Control and Prevention.
>
> Yes and nobody really knows why for sure.

Lots of bogeymen to blame though.

I think sf was right on Monsanto.

No proof, just an opinion.

On 8/12/2014 5:34 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> We ate at Five Guys once and I saw no need to go back. We are spoiled
>> by Whataburger, which is just fast food, but they are better than Five
>> Guys, IMO.
>
> I won't go. Have heard from others that they are greasy and not good.

Greasy?

Yes, Smashburger is even more so.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:49:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Isn't Stuart Andersons the Black Angus? We have one here. No peanuts on
>> the floor there either but also doesn't give me the feeling that it is
>> clean. I'm not even a super neatnick but stuff like wads of dust on
>> things
>> hanging on the wall or on picture frames or having to step over piles of
>> peanut shells doesn't thrill me.
>
> Black Angus was founded by Stuart Anderson (the person). Report your
> filthy restaurant to the corporate office, which is supposedly located
> in based in Los Altos, CA.

I'm not going back to see how it is now. Back in the day it was good. That
was probably in the 1970's. Heck we even went to the club part at night.
But now? Doesn't look any different than it did then and doesn't look like
it was cleaned either. We had such a very bad experience the last time we
were in, we won't go back. Got the orders wrong again and again and again.
Charged us wrong. But the worst part was that the waitress just
disappeared! Not once but many times. Got so bad that we thought it was a
joke. We were about to call the front desk from a cell phone but...
Husband got up and walked around and there was not another person in sight.
No customers. No employees. This was lunch on a weekend.

Very mixed reviews and some just like I said. Corporate would have to know
by now. Surely they visit?

http://www.yelp.com/biz/black-angus-steakhouse-lynnwood

On 8/12/2014 7:28 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 6:46:00 AM UTC-7, Nancy2 wrote:
>
>> Didn't the Outback Steakhouse first start the peanuts on the floor thing? I thought it was supposed
>> to be reflective of an Australian experience, somehow.
>>
>
> The former Come Back Inn, west of Chicago, did it forever.
>
> The Ground Round chain (repurposed HoJo restaurants) did it across the
> country.
>

That might be the name of the one I remembered from the 70's.

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On 8/12/2014 6:37 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Janet Wilder wrote:
>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>> Didn't the Outback Steakhouse first start the peanuts on the floor thing? I thought it was supposed
>>> to be reflective of an Australian experience, somehow.
>>
>> There was an earlier chain that did that, way before Outback. It was
>> also a western steak house kind of place and I can't remember the name,
>> but my kids loved that place.
>
> Some forty years ago local eateries in north western Montana served
> in-shell peanuts and they weren't chains. I think every bar and
> eatery in Whitefish offered in-shell peanuts, Kalispell too.
>
Last time I was up there they still did!

But it's the huckleberries that are to die for...

On 8/12/2014 6:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> news
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:49:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't Stuart Andersons the Black Angus? We have one here. No
>>> peanuts on
>>> the floor there either but also doesn't give me the feeling that it is
>>> clean. I'm not even a super neatnick but stuff like wads of dust on
>>> things
>>> hanging on the wall or on picture frames or having to step over piles of
>>> peanut shells doesn't thrill me.
>>
>> Black Angus was founded by Stuart Anderson (the person). Report your
>> filthy restaurant to the corporate office, which is supposedly located
>> in based in Los Altos, CA.
>
> I'm not going back to see how it is now. Back in the day it was good.
> That was probably in the 1970's. Heck we even went to the club part at
> night. But now? Doesn't look any different than it did then and doesn't
> look like it was cleaned either. We had such a very bad experience the
> last time we were in, we won't go back. Got the orders wrong again and
> again and again. Charged us wrong. But the worst part was that the
> waitress just disappeared! Not once but many times. Got so bad that we
> thought it was a joke. We were about to call the front desk from a cell
> phone but... Husband got up and walked around and there was not another
> person in sight. No customers. No employees. This was lunch on a weekend.
>
> Very mixed reviews and some just like I said. Corporate would have to
> know by now. Surely they visit?
>
> http://www.yelp.com/biz/black-angus-steakhouse-lynnwood

THAT is how older chains slowly wither and die off.

> wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 6:46:00 AM UTC-7, Nancy2 wrote:
>
>> Didn't the Outback Steakhouse first start the peanuts on the floor thing?
>> I thought it was supposed
>> to be reflective of an Australian experience, somehow.
>>
>
> The former Come Back Inn, west of Chicago, did it forever.
>
> The Ground Round chain (repurposed HoJo restaurants) did it across the
> country.

I ate at a Ground Round perhaps in the late 80's or early 90's. Wasn't
memorable but no peanuts that I recall.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>Nancy2 wrote:
>>> Didn't the Outback Steakhouse first start the peanuts on the floor
>>> thing? I thought it was supposed
>>> to be reflective of an Australian experience, somehow.
>>
>>There was an earlier chain that did that, way before Outback. It was
>>also a western steak house kind of place and I can't remember the name,
>>but my kids loved that place.
>
> Some forty years ago local eateries in north western Montana served
> in-shell peanuts and they weren't chains. I think every bar and
> eatery in Whitefish offered in-shell peanuts, Kalispell too.

Lots of places do but they don't usually expect you to toss the shells on
the floor.

"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 8/12/2014 6:37 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>>> Didn't the Outback Steakhouse first start the peanuts on the floor
>>>> thing? I thought it was supposed
>>>> to be reflective of an Australian experience, somehow.
>>>
>>> There was an earlier chain that did that, way before Outback. It was
>>> also a western steak house kind of place and I can't remember the name,
>>> but my kids loved that place.
>>
>> Some forty years ago local eateries in north western Montana served
>> in-shell peanuts and they weren't chains. I think every bar and
>> eatery in Whitefish offered in-shell peanuts, Kalispell too.
>>
> Last time I was up there they still did!
>
> But it's the huckleberries that are to die for...

I love our huckleberries here. Takes forever to pick them though.

"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 8/12/2014 6:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:49:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Isn't Stuart Andersons the Black Angus? We have one here. No
>>>> peanuts on
>>>> the floor there either but also doesn't give me the feeling that it is
>>>> clean. I'm not even a super neatnick but stuff like wads of dust on
>>>> things
>>>> hanging on the wall or on picture frames or having to step over piles
>>>> of
>>>> peanut shells doesn't thrill me.
>>>
>>> Black Angus was founded by Stuart Anderson (the person). Report your
>>> filthy restaurant to the corporate office, which is supposedly located
>>> in based in Los Altos, CA.
>>
>> I'm not going back to see how it is now. Back in the day it was good.
>> That was probably in the 1970's. Heck we even went to the club part at
>> night. But now? Doesn't look any different than it did then and doesn't
>> look like it was cleaned either. We had such a very bad experience the
>> last time we were in, we won't go back. Got the orders wrong again and
>> again and again. Charged us wrong. But the worst part was that the
>> waitress just disappeared! Not once but many times. Got so bad that we
>> thought it was a joke. We were about to call the front desk from a cell
>> phone but... Husband got up and walked around and there was not another
>> person in sight. No customers. No employees. This was lunch on a
>> weekend.
>>
>> Very mixed reviews and some just like I said. Corporate would have to
>> know by now. Surely they visit?
>>
>> http://www.yelp.com/biz/black-angus-steakhouse-lynnwood
>
> THAT is how older chains slowly wither and die off.

I think so. Got to keep up with the times! Cowboy isn't in any more.

On 8/12/2014 8:38 PM, Mayo wrote:

>
> Lots of bogeymen to blame though.
>
> I think sf was right on Monsanto.
>
> No proof, just an opinion.


Wild irresponsible speculation. What do you know to draw that
conclusion? Facts?

On 8/12/2014 8:32 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 6:46:00 AM UTC-7, Nancy2 wrote:
>>
>>> Didn't the Outback Steakhouse first start the peanuts on the floor
>>> thing? I thought it was supposed
>>> to be reflective of an Australian experience, somehow.
>>>
>>
>> The former Come Back Inn, west of Chicago, did it forever.
>>
>> The Ground Round chain (repurposed HoJo restaurants) did it across the
>> country.
>
> I ate at a Ground Round perhaps in the late 80's or early 90's. Wasn't
> memorable but no peanuts that I recall.

That's where I first saw it. Might have been early 80's. My kids were
astounded that they were allowed to throw the shells on the floor. It
was a freedom they never expected.

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On 8/12/2014 8:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...

>> THAT is how older chains slowly wither and die off.
>
> I think so. Got to keep up with the times! Cowboy isn't in any more.

Cowboy is still very "in". Maybe not in the rainforest where you live,
but the rest of the country loves Country.

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:56:57 -0500, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

> On 8/12/2014 5:51 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:03:40 -0500, Ema Nymton >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> We ate at Five Guys once and I saw no need to go back. We are spoiled by
> >> Whataburger, which is just fast food, but they are better than Five
> >> Guys, IMO.
> >>
> >
> > No Whataburger here that I know of. We saw it when we traveled, but
> > weren't hungry enough to stop and eat when I spotted it. Looks like
> > they've pretty much peppered Texas, but we weren't there.
> >
> >
>
> It's a Texas based company. Their chicken strips are the greatest.
> Absolutely non-greasy and made of real solid white meat chicken.

Not greasy items that have just been deep fried is a BFD to me. I
clearly remember being served piping hot deep fried items on a cloth
napkin that didn't have a single speck of oil on it. That's a thing
of the past these days and a major part of the reason why I don't eat
fried food anymore as a general rule (which can be broken on whim).


--
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:34:28 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > We ate at Five Guys once and I saw no need to go back. We are spoiled by
> > Whataburger, which is just fast food, but they are better than Five Guys,
> > IMO.
>
> I won't go. Have heard from others that they are greasy and not good.

I heard either here or in another ng that 5 Guys varies by location
(obviously does not have good corporate oversight and quality
control), but the one I ate at was excellent.


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On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:56:02 -0500, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

> On 8/12/2014 5:30 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> > The Texas Roadhouse here doesn't have peanut shells on the floor...you can get a tin bucket full of
> > peanuts, and an empty one for the shells.
> >
> > N.
> >
>
> They have the empty buckets here, too, but people throw them on the
> floor. Those are damned good peanuts, BTW

Agree, they are good.


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On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:44:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> Very mixed reviews and some just like I said. Corporate would have to know
> by now. Surely they visit?

I honestly do NOT care. If you care enough to complain about it here,
then you should complain to the people who can do something about it.


--
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On 8/12/2014 7:40 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>> On 8/12/2014 6:37 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>> Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>> Didn't the Outback Steakhouse first start the peanuts on the floor
>>>>> thing? I thought it was supposed
>>>>> to be reflective of an Australian experience, somehow.
>>>>
>>>> There was an earlier chain that did that, way before Outback. It was
>>>> also a western steak house kind of place and I can't remember the name,
>>>> but my kids loved that place.
>>>
>>> Some forty years ago local eateries in north western Montana served
>>> in-shell peanuts and they weren't chains. I think every bar and
>>> eatery in Whitefish offered in-shell peanuts, Kalispell too.
>>>
>> Last time I was up there they still did!
>>
>> But it's the huckleberries that are to die for...
>
> I love our huckleberries here. Takes forever to pick them though.

Sure can, then there's the bears...