"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:45:24 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gary" > wrote in message
...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Hypatia Nachshon" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > On Friday, August 15, 2014 11:56:27 AM UTC-7, Janet wrote:
>>>> >> In article >,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> says...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > On 8/14/2014 11:18 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > [...]
>>>> >
>>>> >> > > *Two* paper towel holders? Where is the second one?
>>>> >
>>>> >> > One in each bathroom.
>>>> >
>>>> >> Paper towels in your bathroom at home? Urk.
>>>> >
>>>> > Paper towels are very handy for wiping up spills & whatever paper
>>>> > towels
>>>> > are used for.
>>>> >
>>>> > My paper towel rack sits next to a box of tissues for whatever
>>>> > tissues
>>>> > are
>>>> > used for.
>>>> >
>>>> > (You were maybe thinking...?)
>>>> >
>>>> > HB
>>>>
>>>> Much handier when cleaning than having to lug a roll with you from room
>>>> to
>>>> room.
>>>
>>> Having to "lug a roll" of paper towels around? LMAO! Are you that
>>> weak? Good grief!
>>
>>Hey, you can do what you want. You don't see me making fun of people for
>>what they do. I don't see the need for so many here to do so. Whatever.
>
> No one is making fun of you but you... quitcha-bichin... certain
> people here bash me constantly, have you ever seen me complain, I
> consider the source.
>
> I keep paper towels everywhere, no lugging.
> I only buy Bounty Select-D-Size.

I'm not the one bitching. They are hounding me for what I do. So what?
They can do what they want. I can do what I want. What I do doesn't affect
them at all.

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:42:25 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>Yep, you and a plumber told me the same thing. And he wasn't trying to
>save me money, he was just honest. Don't use those flushable wipes;
>they do not biodegrade as promised but they will clog up the outflow valves.
>
>Jill

BTDT a few years ago when my daughter was here with my one-year-old
grandson.

Doris

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>I have two cats and once in a while one will get a little
>> >> something on the side of the box. Rather than having to empty the
>> >> whole
>> >> box, I use a paper towel to clean it up. They also sometimes deposit
>> >> a
>> >> hairball on the floor.
>> >
>> > For that, in a bathroom, just use toilet paper and flush it. No need
>> > for paper towels.
>>
>> I prefer paper towels. We can only use 1 ply toilet paper and that's not
>> so
>> good for cleaning. We also use flushable wipes.
>
> I would love to know now why you "can only use 1 ply toilet paper?"
> Low flush toilet? It will flush 2-ply paper too. Also, can't you
> easily use a wad of 1-ply to clean up a bit of poop on the side of
> your litter box or scoop up a hairball? If you use a paper towel for
> this cleanup, you can't flush that and you will have to lug it all the
> way back into the kitchen trash.

Our toilets are new. I don't know if they are no flush or not The old one
in my bathroom would always clog if we used anything but one ply. Husband's
might or might not flush two ply. He got the new toilet first and for about
a year it would flush anything. Then it wouldn't. Ours would flush two ply
briefly when we got the new one. Now it won't.

One ply will still sometimes clog either one but usually not.

And why would I have to lug something to the kitchen trash? I happen to
have two trash cans in that bathroom. There is another one in the bedroom
just outside the bathroom and three in the family room. The kitchen can is
reserved for any food related trash that can't go in the yard waste or
recycle bins or anything else generated in the kitchen. I have cans
everywhere. Wherever you are in this house, you won't have to walk far to
dispose of something. I also have four recycle bins in use. Only one food
waste bin. I want it that way.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/17/2014 11:07 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> I have two cats and once in a while one will get a little
>>>>> something on the side of the box. Rather than having to empty the
>>>>> whole
>>>>> box, I use a paper towel to clean it up. They also sometimes deposit
>>>>> a
>>>>> hairball on the floor.
>>>>
>>>> For that, in a bathroom, just use toilet paper and flush it. No need
>>>> for paper towels.
>>>
>>> I prefer paper towels. We can only use 1 ply toilet paper and that's
>>> not so
>>> good for cleaning. We also use flushable wipes.
>>
>> I would love to know now why you "can only use 1 ply toilet paper?"
>> Low flush toilet? It will flush 2-ply paper too.
>
> Probably some obscure housing regulation we who don't live in Bothell
> aren't privy to. Privy, get it? To hear her describe things I'm
> surprised she doesn't have an outhouse.
>
>> Also, can't you
>> easily use a wad of 1-ply to clean up a bit of poop on the side of
>> your litter box or scoop up a hairball? If you use a paper towel for
>> this cleanup, you can't flush that and you will have to lug it all the
>> way back into the kitchen trash.
>
> I kept a bath mat under my cat's litterbox. It was vacuumed free of
> litter and washed frequently. On the rare occasions she soiled outside
> the box it was easy enough to clean up or pick up with toilet paper... and
> flush. If needed, I'd get some spray cleaner and a couple of sheets of
> paper towels and wipe it down. I also used litter-pan liners.
>
> So, Julie uses flushable wipes. As if those won't clog a toilet. I had a
> friend (and a plumber) tell me they *love* when people use those. More
> money in their pockets.

I have not had a flushable wipe cause a clog that I know of. I have a cat
litter mat under my cat litter pan. Why are you people so concerned about
my toilet and how I keep my house?

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote:
>> > Having to "lug a roll" of paper towels around? LMAO! Are you that
>> > weak? Good grief!
>>
>> Hey, you can do what you want. You don't see me making fun of people for
>> what they do. I don't see the need for so many here to do so. Whatever.
>
> Julie, you know I like you and generally support you but you often say
> the strangest things and open yourself up for joking/critisizm...ie -
> all the Julie bashing.
>
> Even I have to call you on some of the odd things that you say.
>
> G. :-D

You people *here* claim that I say odd things. I happen to think that many
of you are odd. But perhaps it's just an age difference. I don't know. I
wouldn't live the way a lot of you do or do the things you do but I also
really don't care. Why people here care so much about what *I* do is simply
beyond me.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/17/2014 11:41 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>> First, your hands are clean after washing them with soap, so, unless you
>> are failing to properly wash your hands, it is no less unsanitary to use
>> a cloth towel than a paper towel.
>
> In theory, but not in practice. If you were correct, a towel would never
> need washing.
>
>
>>
>> Second, you are not killing trees for a misguided reason.
>
> Paper towels and TT use a lot of recycled paper. Doing laundry uses
> precious water and adds chemicals that must be treated. Pretty much a
> wash, you might say.
>
Indeed. And sometimes we do incredibly messy things. So in order to even
wash our hands, we prefer to wipe them first on paper towels to get the bulk
of the gunk off.
>
>>
>> Paper towels do have their place and I do use them, but I keep a clean,
>> terry, hand towel right near my sink on the handle of my oven and I dry
>> my hands with that. I change the towel several times a week.
>
> Easy with one or two people, but less so with five people in the house,
> all using the kitchen and bathrooms.

Yes.

On 8/17/2014 8:06 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/17/2014 11:07 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I prefer paper towels. We can only use 1 ply toilet paper and
>>>> that's not so
>>>> good for cleaning. We also use flushable wipes.
>>>
>
> I have not had a flushable wipe cause a clog that I know of. I have a
> cat litter mat under my cat litter pan. Why are you people so concerned
> about my toilet and how I keep my house?

You're the one who brings this stuff up. "We can only use 1 ply toilet
paper". Why, it is some sort of law? We don't really care, but you are
the one who brings these things up. Then you wonder why you come across
like a nut.

Jill

>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
> You people *here* claim that I say odd things. I happen to think that
> many of you are odd. But perhaps it's just an age difference. I don't
> know. I wouldn't live the way a lot of you do or do the things you do
> but I also really don't care. Why people here care so much about what
> *I* do is simply beyond me.

Here's a thought: stop writing paragraphs filled with long-winded
diatribes about the minutiae of your life.

Really, did we need to know about some sort of fungal infections on your
body? Good lord. RFC is not your friggin diary.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/17/2014 8:06 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/17/2014 11:07 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer paper towels. We can only use 1 ply toilet paper and
>>>>> that's not so
>>>>> good for cleaning. We also use flushable wipes.
>>>>
>>
>> I have not had a flushable wipe cause a clog that I know of. I have a
>> cat litter mat under my cat litter pan. Why are you people so concerned
>> about my toilet and how I keep my house?
>
> You're the one who brings this stuff up. "We can only use 1 ply toilet
> paper". Why, it is some sort of law? We don't really care, but you are
> the one who brings these things up. Then you wonder why you come across
> like a nut.

Actually, Jill... You come off like a nut by picking everything I say to
shreds. I can guarantee you that if I try to flush 2 or more ply, I might
be able to flush it once or twice with no problems. But by the third time,
I will will have at least one clog. I still get a few clogs with one ply
for reasons I won't get into here because people will say, TMI. But AFAIK,
I have never had a clog from a flushable wipe.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>> You people *here* claim that I say odd things. I happen to think that
>> many of you are odd. But perhaps it's just an age difference. I don't
>> know. I wouldn't live the way a lot of you do or do the things you do
>> but I also really don't care. Why people here care so much about what
>> *I* do is simply beyond me.
>
> Here's a thought: stop writing paragraphs filled with long-winded
> diatribes about the minutiae of your life.
>
> Really, did we need to know about some sort of fungal infections on your
> body? Good lord. RFC is not your friggin diary.

If you don't want to know, then stop asking me *why* I do things! Since
everyone here knows that I was in and out of the hospital many times and was
on antibiotics for months on end, what did you think the end result would
be?

On Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:31:25 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I can guarantee you that if I try to flush 2 or more ply, I might
> be able to flush it once or twice with no problems. But by the third time,
> I will have at least one clog. I still get a few clogs with one ply
> for reasons I won't get into here because people will say, TMI. But AFAIK,
> I have never had a clog from a flushable wipe.
>
>
How do you know those flushable wipes are not the culprit? Have you called a plumber to check out your 'new' toilets failing to flush properly?

> wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:31:25 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I can guarantee you that if I try to flush 2 or more ply, I might
>> be able to flush it once or twice with no problems. But by the third
>> time,
>> I will have at least one clog. I still get a few clogs with one ply
>> for reasons I won't get into here because people will say, TMI. But
>> AFAIK,
>> I have never had a clog from a flushable wipe.
>>
>>
> How do you know those flushable wipes are not the culprit? Have you
> called a plumber to check out your 'new' toilets failing to flush
> properly?

No. I just know that so long as I use the one ply, there are very few
clogs.

On Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:41:43 PM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/17/2014 11:41 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>
>
> > First, your hands are clean after washing them with soap, so, unless you
> > are failing to properly wash your hands, it is no less unsanitary to use
> > a cloth towel than a paper towel.
>
>
>
> In theory, but not in practice. If you were correct, a towel would
> never need washing.
>

In the 70s, humorist Bruce Jay Friedman wrote The Lonely Guy's Book
of Life, where he covers the bath towel issue. (Sadly neither in
print nor online). If I recall correctly, he wonders how a clean
towel applied to a clean body could ever get dirty. If it starts
to smell off, simply invite a cute girl over to shower. That will
freshen it up for the next several days.

On Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:44:32 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>
> > Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> "jmcquown" wrote:
>
> >> > My cats' litterbox was in the master bathroom. On a bath mat
>
> >> > (frequently
>
> >> > taken outside and vaccuumed) on a tile floor. I didn't step on it.
>
> >> > The
>
> >> > floor was clean. I didn't need to have paper towels in the bathroom.
>
> >> > As
>
> >> > usual, your experiences are completely different from that of normal
>
> >> > people.
>
> >>
>
> >> Then I guess my whole extended family isn't normal as we all have paper
>
> >> towels in there. I have two cats and once in a while one will get a
>
> >> little
>
> >> something on the side of the box. Rather than having to empty the whole
>
> >> box, I use a paper towel to clean it up. They also sometimes deposit a
>
> >> hairball on the floor.
>
> >
>
> > For that, in a bathroom, just use toilet paper and flush it. No need
>
> > for paper towels.
>
>
>
> I prefer paper towels. We can only use 1 ply toilet paper and that's not so
>
> good for cleaning. We also use flushable wipes.

And because you're on the dole, you can afford them.

--Bryan

On Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:31:52 PM UTC-5, Roy wrote:
> On Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:44:32 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>
> >
>
> > > Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >>
>
> >
>
> > >> "jmcquown" wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >> > My cats' litterbox was in the master bathroom. On a bath mat
>
> >
>
> > >> > (frequently
>
> >
>
> > >> > taken outside and vaccuumed) on a tile floor. I didn't step on it.
>
> >
>
> > >> > The
>
> >
>
> > >> > floor was clean. I didn't need to have paper towels in the bathroom.
>
> >
>
> > >> > As
>
> >
>
> > >> > usual, your experiences are completely different from that of normal
>
> >
>
> > >> > people.
>
> >
>
> > >>
>
> >
>
> > >> Then I guess my whole extended family isn't normal as we all have paper
>
> >
>
> > >> towels in there. I have two cats and once in a while one will get a
>
> >
>
> > >> little
>
> >
>
> > >> something on the side of the box. Rather than having to empty the whole
>
> >
>
> > >> box, I use a paper towel to clean it up. They also sometimes deposit a
>
> >
>
> > >> hairball on the floor.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > For that, in a bathroom, just use toilet paper and flush it. No need
>
> >
>
> > > for paper towels.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I prefer paper towels. We can only use 1 ply toilet paper and that's not so
>
> >
>
> > good for cleaning. We also use flushable wipes.
>
>
>
> Flush-able wipes are one of the best sewer plug-er-uppers available.
>
> Plumbers love them as they get rich fixing situations that are clearly avoidable. City sewer workers hate them as it makes their life miserable finding the snafus in the system.

We own a small house next door that we rent out, and one of our old
tenants used to flush tampons. Those are even worse than the wipes.

--Bryan

On 8/18/2014 4:28 AM, wrote:
> On Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:41:43 PM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 8/17/2014 11:41 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> First, your hands are clean after washing them with soap, so, unless you
>>> are failing to properly wash your hands, it is no less unsanitary to use
>>> a cloth towel than a paper towel.
>>
>>
>>
>> In theory, but not in practice. If you were correct, a towel would
>> never need washing.
>>
>
> In the 70s, humorist Bruce Jay Friedman wrote The Lonely Guy's Book
> of Life, where he covers the bath towel issue. (Sadly neither in
> print nor online). If I recall correctly, he wonders how a clean
> towel applied to a clean body could ever get dirty. If it starts
> to smell off, simply invite a cute girl over to shower. That will
> freshen it up for the next several days.
>
But if you invite a homely girl over it won't?

Jill

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> If I wanted a dish rack I can buy a very nice collapsable
> one made of bamboo for $18: http://tinyurl.com/le77cpk

Mine is like that. Wooden, not bamboo and it has more slots. It looks
good sitting on a dish towel in the corner next to my sink. I don't
put it away...it stays out always. My kitchen is functional, not a
"show kitchen."

G.

On 8/17/2014 1:31 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:44:32 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
>>
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> "jmcquown" wrote:
>>
>>>>> My cats' litterbox was in the master bathroom. On a bath mat
>>
>>>>> (frequently
>>
>>>>> taken outside and vaccuumed) on a tile floor. I didn't step on it.
>>
>>>>> The
>>
>>>>> floor was clean. I didn't need to have paper towels in the bathroom.
>>
>>>>> As
>>
>>>>> usual, your experiences are completely different from that of normal
>>
>>>>> people.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Then I guess my whole extended family isn't normal as we all have paper
>>
>>>> towels in there. I have two cats and once in a while one will get a
>>
>>>> little
>>
>>>> something on the side of the box. Rather than having to empty the whole
>>
>>>> box, I use a paper towel to clean it up. They also sometimes deposit a
>>
>>>> hairball on the floor.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> For that, in a bathroom, just use toilet paper and flush it. No need
>>
>>> for paper towels.
>>
>>
>>
>> I prefer paper towels. We can only use 1 ply toilet paper and that's not so
>>
>> good for cleaning. We also use flushable wipes.
>
> Flush-able wipes are one of the best sewer plug-er-uppers available.
> Plumbers love them as they get rich fixing situations that are clearly avoidable. City sewer workers hate them as it makes their life miserable finding the snafus in the system.
>

Started using baby wipes when my children were babies and I continue to
use them every day, life would be sad without my baby wipes. My plumbing
has been A-OK for decades, I guess I am lucky.

Becca

On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:19:40 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 10:20:30 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>> We are on our fourth Rubbermaid dish drainer in 33 years, and the rubber
>>
>> is starting to come off the wire. The online reviews indicate that the
>>
>> current models are garbage and a pure waste of money -- that we would be
>>
>> better off using our existing one till it becomes a rust covered skeleton.
>>
>Rubbermaid also used to make great mop buckets, and I do mean great. Then
>they discontinued their good ones, and now all one can get are the crappy
>knock-off brand, Continental.
>http://www.amazon.com/Continental-40.../dp/B005QSBCS0
....

Rubbermaid USED to be made here in the USA. That is before NAFTA and
the MalWartization of U.S. industry, which shippied it all to CHINA!

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../walmart/view/

And yet YOU still shop there! :-(

John Kuthe...

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"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/17/2014 1:31 PM, Roy wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:44:32 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> My cats' litterbox was in the master bathroom. On a bath mat
>>>
>>>>>> (frequently
>>>
>>>>>> taken outside and vaccuumed) on a tile floor. I didn't step on it.
>>>
>>>>>> The
>>>
>>>>>> floor was clean. I didn't need to have paper towels in the bathroom.
>>>
>>>>>> As
>>>
>>>>>> usual, your experiences are completely different from that of normal
>>>
>>>>>> people.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Then I guess my whole extended family isn't normal as we all have
>>>>> paper
>>>
>>>>> towels in there. I have two cats and once in a while one will get a
>>>
>>>>> little
>>>
>>>>> something on the side of the box. Rather than having to empty the
>>>>> whole
>>>
>>>>> box, I use a paper towel to clean it up. They also sometimes deposit
>>>>> a
>>>
>>>>> hairball on the floor.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> For that, in a bathroom, just use toilet paper and flush it. No need
>>>
>>>> for paper towels.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I prefer paper towels. We can only use 1 ply toilet paper and that's
>>> not so
>>>
>>> good for cleaning. We also use flushable wipes.
>>
>> Flush-able wipes are one of the best sewer plug-er-uppers available.
>> Plumbers love them as they get rich fixing situations that are clearly
>> avoidable. City sewer workers hate them as it makes their life miserable
>> finding the snafus in the system.
>>
>
> Started using baby wipes when my children were babies and I continue to
> use them every day, life would be sad without my baby wipes. My plumbing
> has been A-OK for decades, I guess I am lucky.

+1 to all that


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

In article >,
says...
>
> On 8/17/2014 4:34 PM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >>> I prefer paper towels. We can only use 1 ply toilet paper and that's not so
> >>> good for cleaning. We also use flushable wipes.
> >>
> >> I would love to know now why you "can only use 1 ply toilet paper?"
> >> Low flush toilet? It will flush 2-ply paper too. Also, can't you
> >> easily use a wad of 1-ply to clean up a bit of poop on the side of
> >> your litter box or scoop up a hairball? If you use a paper towel for
> >> this cleanup, you can't flush that and you will have to lug it all the
> >> way back into the kitchen trash.
> >
> > There will now be a very short interval while Julie fabricates new
> > stories about one-ply bottoms/toilets and that new Olympic sport,
> > lugging kitchen towel.
> >
> > Popcorn and icecream are available at the kiosk.
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
> >
> Is there a charge for beverages?

Nope, it's BYOB

Janet UK

"Julie Bove" wrote:
>
>If you don't want to know, then stop asking me *why* I do things! Since
>everyone here knows that I was in and out of the hospital many times and was
>on antibiotics for months on end, what did you think the end result would
>be?

People are eating here, take your disgusting medical issues to an
appropriate Newsgroup.

"Julie Bove" wrote:
>
>I can guarantee you that if I try to flush 2 or more ply, I might
>be able to flush it once or twice with no problems. But by the third time,
>I will will have at least one clog. I still get a few clogs with one ply
>for reasons I won't get into here because people will say, TMI. But AFAIK,
>I have never had a clog from a flushable wipe.

PEOPLE ARE EATING HERE, DISCUSS YOUR TOILET ISSUES IN PRIVATE WITH
YOUR PROCTOLOGIST.

On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 01:00:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> wrote in message
...
>> On Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:31:25 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> I can guarantee you that if I try to flush 2 or more ply, I might
>>> be able to flush it once or twice with no problems. But by the third
>>> time,
>>> I will have at least one clog. I still get a few clogs with one ply
>>> for reasons I won't get into here because people will say, TMI. But
>>> AFAIK,
>>> I have never had a clog from a flushable wipe.
>>>
>>>
>> How do you know those flushable wipes are not the culprit? Have you
>> called a plumber to check out your 'new' toilets failing to flush
>> properly?
>
>No. I just know that so long as I use the one ply, there are very few
>clogs.

Maybe if you added more roughage to your diet and used an sf style
Depends you wouldn't have any clogs, I just bought one to cover my
tractor's hydraulics in winter.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003OSTDYO/...28360_TE_dp_i2

"Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:44:32 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> "jmcquown" wrote:
>>
>> >> > My cats' litterbox was in the master bathroom. On a bath mat
>>
>> >> > (frequently
>>
>> >> > taken outside and vaccuumed) on a tile floor. I didn't step on it.
>>
>> >> > The
>>
>> >> > floor was clean. I didn't need to have paper towels in the
>> >> > bathroom.
>>
>> >> > As
>>
>> >> > usual, your experiences are completely different from that of normal
>>
>> >> > people.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Then I guess my whole extended family isn't normal as we all have
>> >> paper
>>
>> >> towels in there. I have two cats and once in a while one will get a
>>
>> >> little
>>
>> >> something on the side of the box. Rather than having to empty the
>> >> whole
>>
>> >> box, I use a paper towel to clean it up. They also sometimes deposit
>> >> a
>>
>> >> hairball on the floor.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > For that, in a bathroom, just use toilet paper and flush it. No need
>>
>> > for paper towels.
>>
>>
>>
>> I prefer paper towels. We can only use 1 ply toilet paper and that's not
>> so
>>
>> good for cleaning. We also use flushable wipes.
>
> And because you're on the dole, you can afford them.

I'm not on the dole and my husband works!

"Ema Nymton" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/17/2014 1:31 PM, Roy wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:44:32 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> My cats' litterbox was in the master bathroom. On a bath mat
>>>
>>>>>> (frequently
>>>
>>>>>> taken outside and vaccuumed) on a tile floor. I didn't step on it.
>>>
>>>>>> The
>>>
>>>>>> floor was clean. I didn't need to have paper towels in the bathroom.
>>>
>>>>>> As
>>>
>>>>>> usual, your experiences are completely different from that of normal
>>>
>>>>>> people.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Then I guess my whole extended family isn't normal as we all have
>>>>> paper
>>>
>>>>> towels in there. I have two cats and once in a while one will get a
>>>
>>>>> little
>>>
>>>>> something on the side of the box. Rather than having to empty the
>>>>> whole
>>>
>>>>> box, I use a paper towel to clean it up. They also sometimes deposit
>>>>> a
>>>
>>>>> hairball on the floor.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> For that, in a bathroom, just use toilet paper and flush it. No need
>>>
>>>> for paper towels.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I prefer paper towels. We can only use 1 ply toilet paper and that's
>>> not so
>>>
>>> good for cleaning. We also use flushable wipes.
>>
>> Flush-able wipes are one of the best sewer plug-er-uppers available.
>> Plumbers love them as they get rich fixing situations that are clearly
>> avoidable. City sewer workers hate them as it makes their life miserable
>> finding the snafus in the system.
>>
>
> Started using baby wipes when my children were babies and I continue to
> use them every day, life would be sad without my baby wipes. My plumbing
> has been A-OK for decades, I guess I am lucky.

I hope you haven't been flushing those! My mom started buying baby wipes
noticing that they were cheaper than the flushable wipes. Then she tried to
flush them. They are not flushable.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>
>>If you don't want to know, then stop asking me *why* I do things! Since
>>everyone here knows that I was in and out of the hospital many times and
>>was
>>on antibiotics for months on end, what did you think the end result would
>>be?
>
> People are eating here, take your disgusting medical issues to an
> appropriate Newsgroup.

She did ask why I would have paper towels in there.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>
>>I can guarantee you that if I try to flush 2 or more ply, I might
>>be able to flush it once or twice with no problems. But by the third
>>time,
>>I will will have at least one clog. I still get a few clogs with one ply
>>for reasons I won't get into here because people will say, TMI. But
>>AFAIK,
>>I have never had a clog from a flushable wipe.
>
> PEOPLE ARE EATING HERE, DISCUSS YOUR TOILET ISSUES IN PRIVATE WITH
> YOUR PROCTOLOGIST.

Uh...

*Goes to dictionary.com*

Hmmm... For some reason, I thought that was a Dr. for males. I don't have
one of those and I don't need one of those.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 01:00:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
...
>>> On Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:31:25 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can guarantee you that if I try to flush 2 or more ply, I might
>>>> be able to flush it once or twice with no problems. But by the third
>>>> time,
>>>> I will have at least one clog. I still get a few clogs with one ply
>>>> for reasons I won't get into here because people will say, TMI. But
>>>> AFAIK,
>>>> I have never had a clog from a flushable wipe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> How do you know those flushable wipes are not the culprit? Have you
>>> called a plumber to check out your 'new' toilets failing to flush
>>> properly?
>>
>>No. I just know that so long as I use the one ply, there are very few
>>clogs.
>
> Maybe if you added more roughage to your diet and used an sf style
> Depends you wouldn't have any clogs, I just bought one to cover my
> tractor's hydraulics in winter.
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003OSTDYO/...28360_TE_dp_i2

If I do that, I will activate another medical problem that I have. The
stuff will come back up and it will still involve the toilet. I have to be
very careful as to what I eat and how much of it.

On 8/18/2014 7:24 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>>
>>> I can guarantee you that if I try to flush 2 or more ply, I might
>>> be able to flush it once or twice with no problems. But by the third
>>> time,
>>> I will will have at least one clog. I still get a few clogs with one
>>> ply
>>> for reasons I won't get into here because people will say, TMI. But
>>> AFAIK,
>>> I have never had a clog from a flushable wipe.
>>
>> PEOPLE ARE EATING HERE, DISCUSS YOUR TOILET ISSUES IN PRIVATE WITH
>> YOUR PROCTOLOGIST.
>
> Uh...
>
> *Goes to dictionary.com*
>
> Hmmm... For some reason, I thought that was a Dr. for males. I don't
> have one of those and I don't need one of those.

You are 55 years old and you should have a base line colonoscopy. You do
need one of those doctors. Don't you get wellness care up there?

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/16/2014 7:14 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 8/16/2014 6:16 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 8/15/2014 9:31 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/15/2014 2:56 PM, Janet wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One in each bathroom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paper towels in your bathroom at home? Urk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have a problem with sanitation? Of course we have regular
>>>>>> towels,
>>>>>> but there are times a paper towel is better to use. Need to wipe the
>>>>>> vanity top or toilet seat? What would you use, your hand towel?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our household also has a very low incidence of colds and other
>>>>>> illnesses
>>>>>> and that may be a factor.
>>>>>
>>>>> No one (heh) has problems with sanitation, Ed. Lots of us simply
>>>>> don't keep rolls of paper towels in our bathrooms. When I clean the
>>>>> toilet, I use a toilet brush, not paper towels. When I clean the
>>>>> sink/vanity or tub, I use a clean cloth which I can wash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Guess what? I haven't had a cold in decades. :-D
>>>>
>>>> And you live alone. Right?
>>>
>>> What does my living alone have to do with paper towels in the
>>> bathroom? It's easy enough (for most people) to walk to the kitchen
>>> and grab a couple of paper towels, then walk back to the bathroom. I
>>> walk from the bathroom to the kitchen every day. It's no great
>>> hardship.
>>
>> Because if there is only you, then you can't pick up anyone else's
>> germs.
>
> Oh, because I live alone you think no one else is ever in my house?
> Bzzzzt! I have people in and out of here all the time. Living alone does
> not mean I live in a freakin' bubble. Don't talk to me about germs.
> You're the germiphobe here, not me. You've got practically every
> intolerance known to man.
>
>> My SIL noticed that she isn't getting sick nearly as often now
>> that she only uses paper towels to dry her hands with. She uses several
>> different bathrooms that have several different people using them.
>>
> You could say the same thing about any public restroom with paper towels.
> Even at the cheapest gas station.
>
>> It might be easy for *you* to walk to your kitchen. You're not
>> disabled. I am. I also keep cleaners in the bathrooms too. And a
>> reaching tool in almost every room of the house.
>
> I have yet to discover what this disability of yours is. It apparently
> doesn't stop you from running around to stores, schlepping Angela to and
> from dance class and shopping all the time. Whatever this "disability"
> is, it sure doesn't seem to slow you down.

I don't know why I am getting these posts so slowly. It most assuredly does
slow me down. I take take about 30 steps before needing to stop to rest.
And it is not just one thing. I have posted of my medical problems here
before. Not going to do it again.

I can drive perhaps 12 miles each way, provided I have a long rest before
returning home. Any more than that and my legs start cramping. I can shop
in a store provided I can part close to the entrance and can get a shopping
cart. I do not do well in stores with no shopping carts. I need one for
balance. I can not walk well without support. In my house I have things
placed here and there so that I can grab onto if I need to. And I have lots
of visual clues to aid me. I can not sit for extended periods of time or my
legs will cramp.

I don't schlepp and I do most of my shopping online.

On Monday, August 18, 2014 7:25:39 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 01:00:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>
> > > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> >>> On Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:31:25 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> I can guarantee you that if I try to flush 2 or more ply, I might
>
> >>>> be able to flush it once or twice with no problems. But by the third
>
> >>>> time,
>
> >>>> I will have at least one clog. I still get a few clogs with one ply
>
> >>>> for reasons I won't get into here because people will say, TMI. But
>
> >>>> AFAIK,
>
> >>>> I have never had a clog from a flushable wipe.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>> How do you know those flushable wipes are not the culprit? Have you
>
> >>> called a plumber to check out your 'new' toilets failing to flush
>
> >>> properly?
>
> >>
>
> >>No. I just know that so long as I use the one ply, there are very few
>
> >>clogs.
>
> >
>
> > Maybe if you added more roughage to your diet and used an sf style
>
> > Depends you wouldn't have any clogs, I just bought one to cover my
>
> > tractor's hydraulics in winter.
>
> > http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003OSTDYO/...28360_TE_dp_i2
>
>
>
> If I do that, I will activate another medical problem that I have. The
>
> stuff will come back up and it will still involve the toilet. I have to be
>
> very careful as to what I eat and how much of it.

You are gross enough when you're not shitting and puking.

--Bryan

On Monday, August 18, 2014 7:20:14 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > On Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:44:32 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >> "Gary" > wrote in message
>
> >> ...
>
> >>
>
> >> > Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> >> "jmcquown" wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> >> > My cats' litterbox was in the master bathroom. On a bath mat
>
> >>
>
> >> >> > (frequently
>
> >>
>
> >> >> > taken outside and vaccuumed) on a tile floor. I didn't step on it.
>
> >>
>
> >> >> > The
>
> >>
>
> >> >> > floor was clean. I didn't need to have paper towels in the
>
> >> >> > bathroom.
>
> >>
>
> >> >> > As
>
> >>
>
> >> >> > usual, your experiences are completely different from that of normal
>
> >>
>
> >> >> > people.
>
> >>
>
> >> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> >> Then I guess my whole extended family isn't normal as we all have
>
> >> >> paper
>
> >>
>
> >> >> towels in there. I have two cats and once in a while one will get a
>
> >>
>
> >> >> little
>
> >>
>
> >> >> something on the side of the box. Rather than having to empty the
>
> >> >> whole
>
> >>
>
> >> >> box, I use a paper towel to clean it up. They also sometimes deposit
>
> >> >> a
>
> >>
>
> >> >> hairball on the floor.
>
> >>
>
> >> >
>
> >>
>
> >> > For that, in a bathroom, just use toilet paper and flush it. No need
>
> >>
>
> >> > for paper towels.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> I prefer paper towels. We can only use 1 ply toilet paper and that's not
>
> >> so
>
> >>
>
> >> good for cleaning. We also use flushable wipes.
>
> >
>
> > And because you're on the dole, you can afford them.
>
>
>
> I'm not on the dole and my husband works!

Disability is not "the dole"? I beg to differ.

--Bryan

On Monday, August 18, 2014 8:27:42 PM UTC-5, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>
> From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

Hey, wait a second. I thought you lived down near Brownsville.
That is hardly "deep in the heart of Texas." It's more like on
the edge of Texas.


--Bryan

On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:53:34 -0300, wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 04:07:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>> It might be easy for *you* to walk to your kitchen. You're not
>>>> disabled. I am. I also keep cleaners in the bathrooms too. And a
>>>> reaching tool in almost every room of the house.
>
>Have you considered that the less you move, the less you will be able
>to move. You should make a plan that would involve doing a bit more
>every day, trust me it works. For instance I try to walk about a mile
>a day, more from preference if there is time, because I find that the
>pain I get in lumbar 1,2 & 3 that are damaged, is greatly reduced by
>keeping the surrounding muscles toned.

I keep paper towels in each room so that I don't need to waste time
and energy searching each room for the one roll that I forgot to bring
back to the kitchen. Growing up in a three story home we all found it
much simpler to live with at least one of everything on each story,
and to never transverse a stair case empty handed. I have a tool box
on each floor, in each vehicle, in each out building. I own five
vacuum cleaners, several brooms, can't count how many shovels, rakes,
pruners, saws, etc. I even keep a roll of paper towels in my
vegetable garden, and I have several cans of waterless hand cleaner
strewn about.

On 8/19/2014 6:27 AM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> On Monday, August 18, 2014 7:25:39 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 01:00:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> > wrote in message
>>
>>>> ...
>>
>>>>> On Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:31:25 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>> I can guarantee you that if I try to flush 2 or more ply, I might
>>
>>>>>> be able to flush it once or twice with no problems. But by the third
>>
>>>>>> time,
>>
>>>>>> I will have at least one clog. I still get a few clogs with one ply
>>
>>>>>> for reasons I won't get into here because people will say, TMI. But
>>
>>>>>> AFAIK,
>>
>>>>>> I have never had a clog from a flushable wipe.
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>> How do you know those flushable wipes are not the culprit? Have you
>>
>>>>> called a plumber to check out your 'new' toilets failing to flush
>>
>>>>> properly?
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> No. I just know that so long as I use the one ply, there are very few
>>
>>>> clogs.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Maybe if you added more roughage to your diet and used an sf style
>>
>>> Depends you wouldn't have any clogs, I just bought one to cover my
>>
>>> tractor's hydraulics in winter.
>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003OSTDYO/...28360_TE_dp_i2
>>
>>
>>
>> If I do that, I will activate another medical problem that I have. The
>>
>> stuff will come back up and it will still involve the toilet. I have to be
>>
>> very careful as to what I eat and how much of it.
>
> You are gross enough when you're not shitting and puking.
>
> --Bryan
>
And that tasteless retort certainly improves things here...

"Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, August 18, 2014 7:20:14 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > On Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:44:32 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>
>> >> ...
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> "jmcquown" wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> > My cats' litterbox was in the master bathroom. On a bath mat
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> > (frequently
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> > taken outside and vaccuumed) on a tile floor. I didn't step on
>> >> >> > it.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> > The
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> > floor was clean. I didn't need to have paper towels in the
>>
>> >> >> > bathroom.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> > As
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> > usual, your experiences are completely different from that of
>> >> >> > normal
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> > people.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> Then I guess my whole extended family isn't normal as we all have
>>
>> >> >> paper
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> towels in there. I have two cats and once in a while one will get
>> >> >> a
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> little
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> something on the side of the box. Rather than having to empty the
>>
>> >> >> whole
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> box, I use a paper towel to clean it up. They also sometimes
>> >> >> deposit
>>
>> >> >> a
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> hairball on the floor.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > For that, in a bathroom, just use toilet paper and flush it. No need
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > for paper towels.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> I prefer paper towels. We can only use 1 ply toilet paper and that's
>> >> not
>>
>> >> so
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> good for cleaning. We also use flushable wipes.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > And because you're on the dole, you can afford them.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not on the dole and my husband works!
>
> Disability is not "the dole"? I beg to differ.

You can beg to differ. I don't care. I paid into it.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:53:34 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 04:07:14 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>> It might be easy for *you* to walk to your kitchen. You're not
>>>>> disabled. I am. I also keep cleaners in the bathrooms too. And a
>>>>> reaching tool in almost every room of the house.
>>
>>Have you considered that the less you move, the less you will be able
>>to move. You should make a plan that would involve doing a bit more
>>every day, trust me it works. For instance I try to walk about a mile
>>a day, more from preference if there is time, because I find that the
>>pain I get in lumbar 1,2 & 3 that are damaged, is greatly reduced by
>>keeping the surrounding muscles toned.
>
> I keep paper towels in each room so that I don't need to waste time
> and energy searching each room for the one roll that I forgot to bring
> back to the kitchen. Growing up in a three story home we all found it
> much simpler to live with at least one of everything on each story,
> and to never transverse a stair case empty handed. I have a tool box
> on each floor, in each vehicle, in each out building. I own five
> vacuum cleaners, several brooms, can't count how many shovels, rakes,
> pruners, saws, etc. I even keep a roll of paper towels in my
> vegetable garden, and I have several cans of waterless hand cleaner
> strewn about.

Yes. I have learned to keep things where I need them. I even keep certain
tools in certain places.