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The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.
The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the county
DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county PD
off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
charges - or not. I am betting on not.


"Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message
...
> This has become international news, and we here in StL can hardly avoid
> hearing about it. The way it looks is that a Ferguson cop decided to
> bully a couple of young Black men for walking in the street instead of on
> the sidewalk. Ferguson is ~2/3 Black, and the police dept. has 50 White
> officers, and only 3 Black officers. The cop picked a fight, and after he
> reached out his patrol car window and grabbed the 18 YO by the neck, the
> cop
> drew his gun, and accidentally discharged it in the car. The kid ran
> away,
> and the ****ed off cop pursued him and executed him.
>
> Does the cop, if convicted, deserve the death penalty? I say, "No," but
> if
> he were tracked down and strung up (lynched), it would send a message to
> other cops to cut the shit. He chose to act like a warrior, a combatant,
> instead of a peace officer, and if he were killed, well, he was one more
> soldier who made a stupid, arrogant decision, and his life is the only
> thing
> that will make peace. When one engages in war, and kills, he is a
> legitimate
> target for retaliation by the folks he has made war against.
>
> If the facts in the case are as they seem to be, life without parole seems
> to be the least sentence that will deter future conduct of this type. A
> law enforcement officer should, IMO, be held more, not less accountable
> for murder than a civilian. My son made the point that if it were a Black
> cop who killed an unarmed White man under identical circumstances, the
> case
> would be being handled differently.
>
> More White folks are adding their numbers to the protest, in the spirit of
> Freedom Summer. I may be there myself tomorrow, and I predict that the
> White participation will continue to grow, and maybe we can help stop our
> fellow White folks from persisting in thinking that only minorities see
> racial profiling and bullying as unacceptable.
>
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You top posting scum!! See what you started? ;-)

A new man was brought in this evening to lead the law enforcement
effort in Ferguson, and he made ALL the difference! Especially after
last night's debacle!! :-)

This issue is a lot bigger than just Michael Brown's killing. And STL
has just made a good step in the right direction.

John Kuthe...

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wrote:

>The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.
>The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the county
>DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county PD
>off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
>charges - or not. I am betting on not.
>
>
>"Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message
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>> This has become international news, and we here in StL can hardly avoid
>> hearing about it. The way it looks is that a Ferguson cop decided to
>> bully a couple of young Black men for walking in the street instead of on
>> the sidewalk. Ferguson is ~2/3 Black, and the police dept. has 50 White
>> officers, and only 3 Black officers. The cop picked a fight, and after he
>> reached out his patrol car window and grabbed the 18 YO by the neck, the
>> cop
>> drew his gun, and accidentally discharged it in the car. The kid ran
>> away,
>> and the ****ed off cop pursued him and executed him.
>>
>> Does the cop, if convicted, deserve the death penalty? I say, "No," but
>> if
>> he were tracked down and strung up (lynched), it would send a message to
>> other cops to cut the shit. He chose to act like a warrior, a combatant,
>> instead of a peace officer, and if he were killed, well, he was one more
>> soldier who made a stupid, arrogant decision, and his life is the only
>> thing
>> that will make peace. When one engages in war, and kills, he is a
>> legitimate
>> target for retaliation by the folks he has made war against.
>>
>> If the facts in the case are as they seem to be, life without parole seems
>> to be the least sentence that will deter future conduct of this type. A
>> law enforcement officer should, IMO, be held more, not less accountable
>> for murder than a civilian. My son made the point that if it were a Black
>> cop who killed an unarmed White man under identical circumstances, the
>> case
>> would be being handled differently.
>>
>> More White folks are adding their numbers to the protest, in the spirit of
>> Freedom Summer. I may be there myself tomorrow, and I predict that the
>> White participation will continue to grow, and maybe we can help stop our
>> fellow White folks from persisting in thinking that only minorities see
>> racial profiling and bullying as unacceptable.
>>
>> --Bryan

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On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 20:19:44 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.
> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the county
> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county PD
> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
> charges - or not. I am betting on not.


OOOH, lawn chair and popcorn time! Looks like there'll be a showdown
in MO to see who has the real power. In the mean time, the US
Attorney's Office will be investigating and issuing charges
independently if anything is found to be amiss... so the local yokels
could be caught with egg on their face if they don't reflect most, if
not all of the Federal charges (if any).


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On 2014-08-14 11:19 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.
> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the county
> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county PD
> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
> charges - or not. I am betting on not.
>

It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a
video of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it didn't
make much sense. It seems they was just walking along the road.The cops
stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop pulled
up and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun
pulled? The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up?
Meanwhile, the friend was running away because he was fearing for his
own life, and still managed to see what had happened. There are some
credibility issues.


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Dave Smith wrote:
>Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.
>> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the county
>> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county PD
>> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
>> charges - or not. I am betting on not.
>>

>It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a
>video of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it didn't
>make much sense. It seems they was just walking along the road.The cops
>stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop pulled
>up and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun
>pulled? The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up?
>Meanwhile, the friend was running away because he was fearing for his
>own life, and still managed to see what had happened. There are some
>credibility issues.


Anyone willing to hear facts rather than spout off ignant supposition
would have known that big doofuss was no innocent, he was being sought
for a strong arm robbery and when confronted resisted... stay tuned
for more facts... all over the noos this AM. BTW, turns out the
victim's friend was his accomplice in committing the robbery... all on
surveilence video. Stay tuned until the fat lady sings.


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On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:23:38 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-08-14 11:19 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> > The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.
> > The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the county
> > DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county PD
> > off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
> > charges - or not. I am betting on not.
> >

> It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a
> video of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it didn't
> make much sense. It seems they was just walking along the road.The cops
> stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop pulled
> up and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun
> pulled? The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up?
> Meanwhile, the friend was running away because he was fearing for his
> own life, and still managed to see what had happened. There are some
> credibility issues.
>

When you don't live in those states, you don't understand the racial
divide. My DD went to the South (MO or MS - I don't remember) as part
of her community service one year in JH. It was so bad that there
were actually white and black sides of a single street. She and a
friend were stopped and admonished (nicely) by a well dressed,
grandmotherly looking, black lady driving down the street, who told
them they were on the wrong side and should be walking on the other
side. The racial divide is very deep and whites don't appreciate
uppity blacks. If you've noticed, Ferguson residents are *very*
middle class. They are well dressed and speak proper English, nothing
to belittle - but whites still do and it was well demonstrated by that
incident. A police force that brings out an armored vehicle and
machine guns to a peaceful demonstration is over reacting. How are
10-12 YO girls tap dancing in the street a threat?


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On Friday, August 15, 2014 11:06:42 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >Paul M. Cook wrote:

>
> >> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.

>
> >> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the county

>
> >> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county PD

>
> >> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file

>
> >> charges - or not. I am betting on not.

>
> >>

>
> >It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a

>
> >video of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it didn't

>
> >make much sense. It seems they was just walking along the road.The cops

>
> >stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop pulled

>
> >up and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun

>
> >pulled? The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up?

>
> >Meanwhile, the friend was running away because he was fearing for his

>
> >own life, and still managed to see what had happened. There are some

>
> >credibility issues.

>
>
>
> Anyone willing to hear facts rather than spout off ignant supposition
>
> would have known that big doofuss was no innocent, he was being sought
>
> for a strong arm robbery and when confronted resisted... stay tuned
>
> for more facts... all over the noos this AM. BTW, turns out the
>
> victim's friend was his accomplice in committing the robbery... all on
>
> surveilence video. Stay tuned until the fat lady sings.


You're getting two different North St. Louis County shooting cases mixed up.
Michael Brown was guilty of nothing more than jaywalking. The other guy who
got shot probably deserved it.

--Bryan
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On 8/14/2014 9:19 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.
> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and



Congratulations, your insistence on "never" had bled from
enviro-whackism to racism.

Unsurprising.
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On 8/15/2014 12:15 PM, sf wrote:
> When you don't live in those states, you don't understand the racial
> divide. My DD went to the South (MO or MS - I don't remember) as part
> of her community service one year in JH.


Community service? JH? Juvenile Hall? (just kidding)

> It was so bad that there
> were actually white and black sides of a single street.


Wow. Your daughter must be a lot older than I am.

She and a
> friend were stopped and admonished (nicely) by a well dressed,
> grandmotherly looking, black lady driving down the street, who told
> them they were on the wrong side and should be walking on the other
> side. The racial divide is very deep and whites don't appreciate
> uppity blacks.


Oh good lord. "don't appreciate uppity blacks"? What year are you
talking about?

I've lived in the south most of my adult life. I sometimes felt some
racial tension in the Memphis area. But not from everyone. And it was
mostly the blacks shutting out the whites. I used to buy my breakfast
at a store down the street on the way to work.

One of the black women practically shunned me (Pinkie, it said on her
name tag). She'd just grunt and served me grudgingly. SHE had an
attitude. Her co-worker, Vergie, didn't.

So one day I cooked up a batch of red beans & rice with andouille
sausage and took some in a container to Vergie. I figured she must get
tired of eating the same old fried chicken, potatoes and greens every
day. She thanked me and heated up the red beans & rice in the
microwave. Vergie told me later Miss Pinkie said to her, that smells
good. What is it? And Pinkie tasted it and said "Dayum! Dat shit is
*good*!" From then on, Pinkie was nice to me when I came in to order
breakfast.

Now... way down here in SC? Sorry, but no one is still trying to fight
the Civil War. The people here are very friendly. They go out of their
way to talk to you (and no, I'm not talking about The Club). People
don't get shot just for walking down the street around here. So please
don't try not to generalize "southern attitudes".

Jill
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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> On 2014-08-14 11:19 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court
>> trial.
>> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the
>> county
>> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county
>> PD
>> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
>> charges - or not. I am betting on not.
>>

> It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a video
> of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it didn't make
> much sense. It seems they was just walking along the road.The cops
> stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop pulled up
> and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun pulled?
> The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up? Meanwhile, the
> friend was running away because he was fearing for his own life, and still
> managed to see what had happened. There are some credibility issues.
>
>


Where? They were 100 feet from his house walk-in towards it. The copy said
"get the **** onto the sidewalk" and apparently the murdered kid said "we're
almost where we're going." Cop didn't like that and decided to teach the
punk ass a lesson about messing with his bad ass. When the boy pulled away
then he pulled his weapon and apparently he fired a round into the vehicle
by mistake.

So far two more witnesses have come foreward and pretty much corroborated
original witness. And they are very credible. Neither say the murdered
young man had his hands inside the vehicle.

Face it, white cops execute black people. Happens all the time. Four times
this month alone if you include the executed cigarette seller.



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On 8/15/2014 7:23 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-08-14 11:19 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court
>> trial.
>> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the
>> county
>> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the
>> county PD
>> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
>> charges - or not. I am betting on not.
>>

> It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a
> video of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it didn't
> make much sense. It seems they was just walking along the road.The cops
> stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop pulled
> up and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun
> pulled? The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up?
> Meanwhile, the friend was running away because he was fearing for his
> own life, and still managed to see what had happened. There are some
> credibility issues.
>
>

Dispassionate analysis - tnx.
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On 8/15/2014 10:06 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.
>>> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the county
>>> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county PD
>>> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
>>> charges - or not. I am betting on not.
>>>

>> It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a
>> video of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it didn't
>> make much sense. It seems they was just walking along the road.The cops
>> stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop pulled
>> up and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun
>> pulled? The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up?
>> Meanwhile, the friend was running away because he was fearing for his
>> own life, and still managed to see what had happened. There are some
>> credibility issues.

>
> Anyone willing to hear facts rather than spout off ignant supposition
> would have known that big doofuss was no innocent, he was being sought
> for a strong arm robbery and when confronted resisted... stay tuned
> for more facts... all over the noos this AM. BTW, turns out the
> victim's friend was his accomplice in committing the robbery... all on
> surveilence video. Stay tuned until the fat lady sings.
>


Despite your predilection for strongly misstating things, here you show
restraint, bravo.
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On 8/15/2014 10:15 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:23:38 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-08-14 11:19 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.
>>> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the county
>>> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county PD
>>> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
>>> charges - or not. I am betting on not.
>>>

>> It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a
>> video of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it didn't
>> make much sense. It seems they was just walking along the road.The cops
>> stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop pulled
>> up and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun
>> pulled? The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up?
>> Meanwhile, the friend was running away because he was fearing for his
>> own life, and still managed to see what had happened. There are some
>> credibility issues.
>>

> When you don't live in those states, you don't understand the racial
> divide.


Largely true.

> My DD went to the South (MO or MS - I don't remember) as part
> of her community service one year in JH. It was so bad that there
> were actually white and black sides of a single street. She and a
> friend were stopped and admonished (nicely) by a well dressed,
> grandmotherly looking, black lady driving down the street, who told
> them they were on the wrong side and should be walking on the other
> side.


Wow.

> The racial divide is very deep and whites don't appreciate
> uppity blacks. If you've noticed, Ferguson residents are *very*
> middle class. They are well dressed and speak proper English, nothing
> to belittle - but whites still do and it was well demonstrated by that
> incident.


That is supposition only.

> A police force that brings out an armored vehicle and
> machine guns to a peaceful demonstration is over reacting. How are
> 10-12 YO girls tap dancing in the street a threat?


How much rioting and looting can occur before a message need be sent?

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On 8/15/2014 10:22 AM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> On Friday, August 15, 2014 11:06:42 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> Paul M. Cook wrote:

>>
>>>> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.

>>
>>>> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the county

>>
>>>> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county PD

>>
>>>> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file

>>
>>>> charges - or not. I am betting on not.

>>
>>>>

>>
>>> It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a

>>
>>> video of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it didn't

>>
>>> make much sense. It seems they was just walking along the road.The cops

>>
>>> stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop pulled

>>
>>> up and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun

>>
>>> pulled? The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up?

>>
>>> Meanwhile, the friend was running away because he was fearing for his

>>
>>> own life, and still managed to see what had happened. There are some

>>
>>> credibility issues.

>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone willing to hear facts rather than spout off ignant supposition
>>
>> would have known that big doofuss was no innocent, he was being sought
>>
>> for a strong arm robbery and when confronted resisted... stay tuned
>>
>> for more facts... all over the noos this AM. BTW, turns out the
>>
>> victim's friend was his accomplice in committing the robbery... all on
>>
>> surveilence video. Stay tuned until the fat lady sings.

>
> You're getting two different North St. Louis County shooting cases mixed up.
> Michael Brown was guilty of nothing more than jaywalking.


How do YOU know that ?

> The other guy who
> got shot probably deserved it.
>
> --Bryan
>


How do YOU know that?
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On 8/15/2014 11:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/15/2014 12:15 PM, sf wrote:
>> When you don't live in those states, you don't understand the racial
>> divide. My DD went to the South (MO or MS - I don't remember) as part
>> of her community service one year in JH.

>
> Community service? JH? Juvenile Hall? (just kidding)
>
>> It was so bad that there
>> were actually white and black sides of a single street.

>
> Wow. Your daughter must be a lot older than I am.
>
> She and a
>> friend were stopped and admonished (nicely) by a well dressed,
>> grandmotherly looking, black lady driving down the street, who told
>> them they were on the wrong side and should be walking on the other
>> side. The racial divide is very deep and whites don't appreciate
>> uppity blacks.

>
> Oh good lord. "don't appreciate uppity blacks"? What year are you
> talking about?
>
> I've lived in the south most of my adult life. I sometimes felt some
> racial tension in the Memphis area. But not from everyone. And it was
> mostly the blacks shutting out the whites. I used to buy my breakfast
> at a store down the street on the way to work.
>
> One of the black women practically shunned me (Pinkie, it said on her
> name tag). She'd just grunt and served me grudgingly. SHE had an
> attitude. Her co-worker, Vergie, didn't.
>
> So one day I cooked up a batch of red beans & rice with andouille
> sausage and took some in a container to Vergie. I figured she must get
> tired of eating the same old fried chicken, potatoes and greens every
> day. She thanked me and heated up the red beans & rice in the
> microwave. Vergie told me later Miss Pinkie said to her, that smells
> good. What is it? And Pinkie tasted it and said "Dayum! Dat shit is
> *good*!" From then on, Pinkie was nice to me when I came in to order
> breakfast.
>
> Now... way down here in SC? Sorry, but no one is still trying to fight
> the Civil War. The people here are very friendly. They go out of their
> way to talk to you (and no, I'm not talking about The Club). People
> don't get shot just for walking down the street around here. So please
> don't try not to generalize "southern attitudes".
>
> Jill


fascinating story and insight, tnx.


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Face it.

You are a bigot trading in bigotry, period.
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> Wow. Your daughter must be a lot older than I am.


Nope, she's half your age. The South is still mired in racism.


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On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:15:38 -0600, Mayo > wrote:

> On 8/15/2014 11:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 8/15/2014 12:15 PM, sf wrote:
> >> When you don't live in those states, you don't understand the racial
> >> divide. My DD went to the South (MO or MS - I don't remember) as part
> >> of her community service one year in JH.

> >
> > Community service? JH? Juvenile Hall? (just kidding)
> >
> >> It was so bad that there
> >> were actually white and black sides of a single street.

> >
> > Wow. Your daughter must be a lot older than I am.
> >
> > She and a
> >> friend were stopped and admonished (nicely) by a well dressed,
> >> grandmotherly looking, black lady driving down the street, who told
> >> them they were on the wrong side and should be walking on the other
> >> side. The racial divide is very deep and whites don't appreciate
> >> uppity blacks.

> >
> > Oh good lord. "don't appreciate uppity blacks"? What year are you
> > talking about?
> >
> > I've lived in the south most of my adult life. I sometimes felt some
> > racial tension in the Memphis area. But not from everyone. And it was
> > mostly the blacks shutting out the whites. I used to buy my breakfast
> > at a store down the street on the way to work.
> >
> > One of the black women practically shunned me (Pinkie, it said on her
> > name tag). She'd just grunt and served me grudgingly. SHE had an
> > attitude. Her co-worker, Vergie, didn't.
> >
> > So one day I cooked up a batch of red beans & rice with andouille
> > sausage and took some in a container to Vergie. I figured she must get
> > tired of eating the same old fried chicken, potatoes and greens every
> > day. She thanked me and heated up the red beans & rice in the
> > microwave. Vergie told me later Miss Pinkie said to her, that smells
> > good. What is it? And Pinkie tasted it and said "Dayum! Dat shit is
> > *good*!" From then on, Pinkie was nice to me when I came in to order
> > breakfast.
> >
> > Now... way down here in SC? Sorry, but no one is still trying to fight
> > the Civil War. The people here are very friendly. They go out of their
> > way to talk to you (and no, I'm not talking about The Club). People
> > don't get shot just for walking down the street around here. So please
> > don't try not to generalize "southern attitudes".
> >
> > Jill

>
> fascinating story and insight, tnx.


She's white and can't/won't see that stuff.


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On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:09:09 -0600, Mayo > wrote:

> > A police force that brings out an armored vehicle and
> > machine guns to a peaceful demonstration is over reacting. How are
> > 10-12 YO girls tap dancing in the street a threat?

>
> How much rioting and looting can occur before a message need be sent?


The story is changing now. The kid robbed a store. I didn't know
about the rioting until last night and apparently it wasn't the
magnitude that it has been made out of be.


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On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:30:24 -0700, sf > wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:09:09 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
> > > A police force that brings out an armored vehicle and
> > > machine guns to a peaceful demonstration is over reacting. How are
> > > 10-12 YO girls tap dancing in the street a threat?

> >
> > How much rioting and looting can occur before a message need be sent?

>
> The story is changing now. The kid robbed a store. I didn't know
> about the rioting until last night and apparently it wasn't the
> magnitude that it has been made out of be.


BTW: How many hours does a body need to be left in the street before
the public gets upset?


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On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:10:25 -0600, Mayo > wrote:

>On 8/15/2014 10:22 AM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>> On Friday, August 15, 2014 11:06:42 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.
>>>
>>>>> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the county
>>>
>>>>> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county PD
>>>
>>>>> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
>>>
>>>>> charges - or not. I am betting on not.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a
>>>
>>>> video of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it didn't
>>>
>>>> make much sense. It seems they was just walking along the road.The cops
>>>
>>>> stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop pulled
>>>
>>>> up and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun
>>>
>>>> pulled? The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up?
>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, the friend was running away because he was fearing for his
>>>
>>>> own life, and still managed to see what had happened. There are some
>>>
>>>> credibility issues.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone willing to hear facts rather than spout off ignant supposition
>>>
>>> would have known that big doofuss was no innocent, he was being sought
>>>
>>> for a strong arm robbery and when confronted resisted... stay tuned
>>>
>>> for more facts... all over the noos this AM. BTW, turns out the
>>>
>>> victim's friend was his accomplice in committing the robbery... all on
>>>
>>> surveilence video. Stay tuned until the fat lady sings.

>>
>> You're getting two different North St. Louis County shooting cases mixed up.
>> Michael Brown was guilty of nothing more than jaywalking.

>
>How do YOU know that ?
>
>> The other guy who
>> got shot probably deserved it.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>

>
>How do YOU know that?


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On 8/15/2014 3:28 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:15:38 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 8/15/2014 11:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 8/15/2014 12:15 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> When you don't live in those states, you don't understand the racial
>>>> divide. My DD went to the South (MO or MS - I don't remember) as part
>>>> of her community service one year in JH.
>>>
>>> Community service? JH? Juvenile Hall? (just kidding)
>>>
>>>> It was so bad that there
>>>> were actually white and black sides of a single street.
>>>
>>> Wow. Your daughter must be a lot older than I am.
>>>
>>> She and a
>>>> friend were stopped and admonished (nicely) by a well dressed,
>>>> grandmotherly looking, black lady driving down the street, who told
>>>> them they were on the wrong side and should be walking on the other
>>>> side. The racial divide is very deep and whites don't appreciate
>>>> uppity blacks.
>>>
>>> Oh good lord. "don't appreciate uppity blacks"? What year are you
>>> talking about?
>>>
>>> I've lived in the south most of my adult life. I sometimes felt some
>>> racial tension in the Memphis area. But not from everyone. And it was
>>> mostly the blacks shutting out the whites. I used to buy my breakfast
>>> at a store down the street on the way to work.
>>>
>>> One of the black women practically shunned me (Pinkie, it said on her
>>> name tag). She'd just grunt and served me grudgingly. SHE had an
>>> attitude. Her co-worker, Vergie, didn't.
>>>
>>> So one day I cooked up a batch of red beans & rice with andouille
>>> sausage and took some in a container to Vergie. I figured she must get
>>> tired of eating the same old fried chicken, potatoes and greens every
>>> day. She thanked me and heated up the red beans & rice in the
>>> microwave. Vergie told me later Miss Pinkie said to her, that smells
>>> good. What is it? And Pinkie tasted it and said "Dayum! Dat shit is
>>> *good*!" From then on, Pinkie was nice to me when I came in to order
>>> breakfast.
>>>
>>> Now... way down here in SC? Sorry, but no one is still trying to fight
>>> the Civil War. The people here are very friendly. They go out of their
>>> way to talk to you (and no, I'm not talking about The Club). People
>>> don't get shot just for walking down the street around here. So please
>>> don't try not to generalize "southern attitudes".
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> fascinating story and insight, tnx.

>
> She's white and can't/won't see that stuff.
>
>

That's bullshit, sf. Yes, I'm white. Yes, I've encountered (reverse)
racism and plenty of attitude on both sides since I've lived in the
south. But not this sort of string 'em up attitude you seem to think is
prevalent. Definitely not.

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> That's bullshit, sf. Yes, I'm white. Yes, I've encountered (reverse)
> racism and plenty of attitude on both sides since I've lived in the
> south. But not this sort of string 'em up attitude you seem to think is
> prevalent. Definitely not.


You're blind, Jill.


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On 8/15/2014 4:40 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:00:44 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> That's bullshit, sf. Yes, I'm white. Yes, I've encountered (reverse)
>> racism and plenty of attitude on both sides since I've lived in the
>> south. But not this sort of string 'em up attitude you seem to think is
>> prevalent. Definitely not.

>
> You're blind, Jill.
>
>

No, I'm not. You've never lived in the southern US yet you continue to
proclaim these stereotypes you've only heard about. Probably from
whatever news channel preaches your gospel.

Not every place in the southern US has hostility between races. I'm not
saying it never happened, of course it has. I'm saying where I live now
it's not at all a prevalent thing.

FYI and OB Food: people who live in the south also don't boil vegetables
to mush or deep fry everything we can get our hands on.

BTW, Missouri is not considered part of the south. Not even during the
Civil War. It's in the Midwest.

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On 2014-08-15 1:57 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:

>> The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up? Meanwhile, the
>> friend was running away because he was fearing for his own life, and still
>> managed to see what had happened. There are some credibility issues.
>>
>>

>
> Where? They were 100 feet from his house walk-in towards it. The copy said
> "get the **** onto the sidewalk" and apparently the murdered kid said "we're
> almost where we're going." Cop didn't like that and decided to teach the
> punk ass a lesson about messing with his bad ass. When the boy pulled away
> then he pulled his weapon and apparently he fired a round into the vehicle
> by mistake.


That is the story from the friend of the victim... the one who ran away
and still saw everything.

> So far two more witnesses have come foreward and pretty much corroborated
> original witness. And they are very credible. Neither say the murdered
> young man had his hands inside the vehicle.



I would question the testimony of someone who comes forward two days
later, after they have had a chance to hear what the main witness said.
I have to wonder why they weren't questioned at the time, why they
didn't come forward and tell the investigators what they say at the
time. If they had the same story at the time it would be more creible.


>
> Face it, white cops execute black people. Happens all the time. Four times
> this month alone if you include the executed cigarette seller.


The cigarette seller? The choke hold? Get someone to put a choke hold
on you and see how many times you can say "I can't breathe". If you
can't breath you can't keep saying it. He was having trouble breathing
because he had a heart attack. The fat *******'s heart gave up when he
was struggling to resist a legitimate arrest for the same thing he had
been convicted of a couple dozen times before.


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On 8/15/2014 1:27 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 13:47:04 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Wow. Your daughter must be a lot older than I am.

>
> Nope, she's half your age. The South is still mired in racism.
>
>

It stands to reason, given its history - but it also stands to have
changed, greatly.
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On 8/15/2014 1:28 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:15:38 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 8/15/2014 11:47 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 8/15/2014 12:15 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> When you don't live in those states, you don't understand the racial
>>>> divide. My DD went to the South (MO or MS - I don't remember) as part
>>>> of her community service one year in JH.
>>>
>>> Community service? JH? Juvenile Hall? (just kidding)
>>>
>>>> It was so bad that there
>>>> were actually white and black sides of a single street.
>>>
>>> Wow. Your daughter must be a lot older than I am.
>>>
>>> She and a
>>>> friend were stopped and admonished (nicely) by a well dressed,
>>>> grandmotherly looking, black lady driving down the street, who told
>>>> them they were on the wrong side and should be walking on the other
>>>> side. The racial divide is very deep and whites don't appreciate
>>>> uppity blacks.
>>>
>>> Oh good lord. "don't appreciate uppity blacks"? What year are you
>>> talking about?
>>>
>>> I've lived in the south most of my adult life. I sometimes felt some
>>> racial tension in the Memphis area. But not from everyone. And it was
>>> mostly the blacks shutting out the whites. I used to buy my breakfast
>>> at a store down the street on the way to work.
>>>
>>> One of the black women practically shunned me (Pinkie, it said on her
>>> name tag). She'd just grunt and served me grudgingly. SHE had an
>>> attitude. Her co-worker, Vergie, didn't.
>>>
>>> So one day I cooked up a batch of red beans & rice with andouille
>>> sausage and took some in a container to Vergie. I figured she must get
>>> tired of eating the same old fried chicken, potatoes and greens every
>>> day. She thanked me and heated up the red beans & rice in the
>>> microwave. Vergie told me later Miss Pinkie said to her, that smells
>>> good. What is it? And Pinkie tasted it and said "Dayum! Dat shit is
>>> *good*!" From then on, Pinkie was nice to me when I came in to order
>>> breakfast.
>>>
>>> Now... way down here in SC? Sorry, but no one is still trying to fight
>>> the Civil War. The people here are very friendly. They go out of their
>>> way to talk to you (and no, I'm not talking about The Club). People
>>> don't get shot just for walking down the street around here. So please
>>> don't try not to generalize "southern attitudes".
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> fascinating story and insight, tnx.

>
> She's white and can't/won't see that stuff.
>
>

I'm not sure I buy that angle.

At some point I think most boomers just want things to BE different,
regardless of whether they are yet.

But beyond question things have changed greatly and teh blending evident
amongst millenials speaks to that.
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On 8/15/2014 1:30 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:09:09 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>>> A police force that brings out an armored vehicle and
>>> machine guns to a peaceful demonstration is over reacting. How are
>>> 10-12 YO girls tap dancing in the street a threat?

>>
>> How much rioting and looting can occur before a message need be sent?

>
> The story is changing now. The kid robbed a store.


I know, saw that this AM.

> I didn't know
> about the rioting until last night and apparently it wasn't the
> magnitude that it has been made out of be.


I watched video of it - looked not good to me.

One great story though as to the community unity:

Locals went in to either a tire or muffler shop (likely the latter) and
took the keys off the wall for cars inside, moved the cars, then came
back the next day to return them.

Inspiring!



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On 8/15/2014 1:31 PM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:30:24 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:09:09 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>
>>>> A police force that brings out an armored vehicle and
>>>> machine guns to a peaceful demonstration is over reacting. How are
>>>> 10-12 YO girls tap dancing in the street a threat?
>>>
>>> How much rioting and looting can occur before a message need be sent?

>>
>> The story is changing now. The kid robbed a store. I didn't know
>> about the rioting until last night and apparently it wasn't the
>> magnitude that it has been made out of be.

>
> BTW: How many hours does a body need to be left in the street before
> the public gets upset?
>
>

There was an incident in another city a couple of years back in which
just that question came up - sad.
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On 8/15/2014 1:50 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:10:25 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 8/15/2014 10:22 AM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>> On Friday, August 15, 2014 11:06:42 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.
>>>>
>>>>>> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the county
>>>>
>>>>>> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county PD
>>>>
>>>>>> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
>>>>
>>>>>> charges - or not. I am betting on not.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a
>>>>
>>>>> video of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it didn't
>>>>
>>>>> make much sense. It seems they was just walking along the road.The cops
>>>>
>>>>> stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop pulled
>>>>
>>>>> up and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun
>>>>
>>>>> pulled? The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up?
>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, the friend was running away because he was fearing for his
>>>>
>>>>> own life, and still managed to see what had happened. There are some
>>>>
>>>>> credibility issues.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone willing to hear facts rather than spout off ignant supposition
>>>>
>>>> would have known that big doofuss was no innocent, he was being sought
>>>>
>>>> for a strong arm robbery and when confronted resisted... stay tuned
>>>>
>>>> for more facts... all over the noos this AM. BTW, turns out the
>>>>
>>>> victim's friend was his accomplice in committing the robbery... all on
>>>>
>>>> surveilence video. Stay tuned until the fat lady sings.
>>>
>>> You're getting two different North St. Louis County shooting cases mixed up.
>>> Michael Brown was guilty of nothing more than jaywalking.

>>
>> How do YOU know that ?
>>
>>> The other guy who
>>> got shot probably deserved it.
>>>
>>> --Bryan
>>>

>>
>> How do YOU know that?

>
> Easy when you have Narcisstic Persobnality Disorder. The only
> poassible truth is YOUR truth! ;-)
>
> John Kuthe...


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On 15/08/2014 4:13 PM, Mayo wrote:
> On 8/15/2014 1:30 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:09:09 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>
>>>> A police force that brings out an armored vehicle and
>>>> machine guns to a peaceful demonstration is over reacting. How are
>>>> 10-12 YO girls tap dancing in the street a threat?
>>>
>>> How much rioting and looting can occur before a message need be sent?

>>
>> The story is changing now. The kid robbed a store.

>

ALLEGEDLY!!!!!!

Graham

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On 8/15/2014 6:17 PM, Mayo wrote:
> On 8/15/2014 1:50 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:10:25 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/15/2014 10:22 AM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>> On Friday, August 15, 2014 11:06:42 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a
>>>>>>> court trial.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and
>>>>>>> the county
>>>>>
>>>>>>> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take
>>>>>>> the county PD
>>>>>
>>>>>>> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
>>>>>
>>>>>>> charges - or not. I am betting on not.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a
>>>>>
>>>>>> video of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>
>>>>>> make much sense. It seems they was just walking along the
>>>>>> road.The cops
>>>>>
>>>>>> stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop
>>>>>> pulled
>>>>>
>>>>>> up and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun
>>>>>
>>>>>> pulled? The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile, the friend was running away because he was fearing for his
>>>>>
>>>>>> own life, and still managed to see what had happened. There are some
>>>>>
>>>>>> credibility issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone willing to hear facts rather than spout off ignant supposition
>>>>>
>>>>> would have known that big doofuss was no innocent, he was being sought
>>>>>
>>>>> for a strong arm robbery and when confronted resisted... stay tuned
>>>>>
>>>>> for more facts... all over the noos this AM. BTW, turns out the
>>>>>
>>>>> victim's friend was his accomplice in committing the robbery... all on
>>>>>
>>>>> surveilence video. Stay tuned until the fat lady sings.
>>>>
>>>> You're getting two different North St. Louis County shooting cases
>>>> mixed up.
>>>> Michael Brown was guilty of nothing more than jaywalking.
>>>
>>> How do YOU know that ?
>>>
>>>> The other guy who
>>>> got shot probably deserved it.
>>>>
>>>> --Bryan
>>>>
>>>
>>> How do YOU know that?

>>
>> Easy when you have Narcisstic Persobnality Disorder. The only
>> poassible truth is YOUR truth! ;-)
>>
>> John Kuthe...

>
> Hah!
>
> Lots of narcissists out here!
>


I'll wait for further details. It sounds like the Ferguson cops really
screwed up but the presence of that liar and convicted libeler Al
Sharpton does not persuade me to sympathize..

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On 8/15/2014 3:06 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/15/2014 4:40 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:00:44 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's bullshit, sf. Yes, I'm white. Yes, I've encountered (reverse)
>>> racism and plenty of attitude on both sides since I've lived in the
>>> south. But not this sort of string 'em up attitude you seem to think is
>>> prevalent. Definitely not.

>>
>> You're blind, Jill.
>>
>>

> No, I'm not. You've never lived in the southern US yet you continue to
> proclaim these stereotypes you've only heard about. Probably from
> whatever news channel preaches your gospel.
>
> Not every place in the southern US has hostility between races. I'm not
> saying it never happened, of course it has. I'm saying where I live now
> it's not at all a prevalent thing.
>
> FYI and OB Food: people who live in the south also don't boil vegetables
> to mush or deep fry everything we can get our hands on.
>
> BTW, Missouri is not considered part of the south. Not even during the
> Civil War. It's in the Midwest.
>
> Jill


I suppose that varies as to who is doing the considering.

Missouri definitely _feels_ like the South.
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> I'll wait for further details. It sounds like the Ferguson cops really
> screwed up but the presence of that liar and convicted libeler Al
> Sharpton does not persuade me to sympathize..
>

The "Reverend" (ha!) Al Sharpton doesn't do anything but try to inflame
divisiness. These days, even Jesse Jackson has stepped away from this
sort of thing.

Jill
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On 2014-08-15 6:22 PM, graham wrote:
> On 15/08/2014 4:13 PM, Mayo wrote:
>> On 8/15/2014 1:30 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:09:09 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> A police force that brings out an armored vehicle and
>>>>> machine guns to a peaceful demonstration is over reacting. How are
>>>>> 10-12 YO girls tap dancing in the street a threat?
>>>>
>>>> How much rioting and looting can occur before a message need be sent?
>>>
>>> The story is changing now. The kid robbed a store.

>>

> ALLEGEDLY!!!!!!
>
>



Yes, allegedly, but the pieces are starting to come together. While the
young man's contact may not have been due to the robbery, it may shed
some light on his reaction and his accomplice's version of what had
happened. I had mentioned the issue of credibility before.



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On 2014-08-15 6:24 PM, James Silverton wrote:

> I'll wait for further details. It sounds like the Ferguson cops really
> screwed up but the presence of that liar and convicted libeler Al
> Sharpton does not persuade me to sympathize..
>



The way I am seeing it now is that something went wrong in that
encounter between the cop and Brown. His being named as the suspect in a
robbery.... that the cop did not know about.... explains why Brown may
have reacted in an aggressive manner, and why his friend/accomplice gave
the account of events that he did.
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:17:18 -0600, Mayo > wrote:

>On 8/15/2014 1:50 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:10:25 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/15/2014 10:22 AM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>> On Friday, August 15, 2014 11:06:42 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a court trial.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and the county
>>>>>
>>>>>>> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take the county PD
>>>>>
>>>>>>> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will file
>>>>>
>>>>>>> charges - or not. I am betting on not.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a
>>>>>
>>>>>> video of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it didn't
>>>>>
>>>>>> make much sense. It seems they was just walking along the road.The cops
>>>>>
>>>>>> stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop pulled
>>>>>
>>>>>> up and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun
>>>>>
>>>>>> pulled? The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile, the friend was running away because he was fearing for his
>>>>>
>>>>>> own life, and still managed to see what had happened. There are some
>>>>>
>>>>>> credibility issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone willing to hear facts rather than spout off ignant supposition
>>>>>
>>>>> would have known that big doofuss was no innocent, he was being sought
>>>>>
>>>>> for a strong arm robbery and when confronted resisted... stay tuned
>>>>>
>>>>> for more facts... all over the noos this AM. BTW, turns out the
>>>>>
>>>>> victim's friend was his accomplice in committing the robbery... all on
>>>>>
>>>>> surveilence video. Stay tuned until the fat lady sings.
>>>>
>>>> You're getting two different North St. Louis County shooting cases mixed up.
>>>> Michael Brown was guilty of nothing more than jaywalking.
>>>
>>> How do YOU know that ?
>>>
>>>> The other guy who
>>>> got shot probably deserved it.
>>>>
>>>> --Bryan
>>>>
>>>
>>> How do YOU know that?

>>
>> Easy when you have Narcisstic Persobnality Disorder. The only
>> poassible truth is YOUR truth! ;-)
>>
>> John Kuthe...

>
>Hah!
>
>Lots of narcissists out here!


Many more in politics, or show business (like there's a difference!)

Some neuroses allow people to lead very financially successful lives.
Look at Robin Williams, Bipolar like me!! Does not mean it's healthy.
Look how it worked out for Mr. Williams! :-(

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> Ferguson is ~2/3 Black, and the police dept. has 50 White
>> officers, and only 3 Black officers.



How...in 2014 could this town be 2/3 black and only have 3 black cops
or be run by whites? No blacks in the town government? This story just
gets curiouser and curiouser?

William
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On 8/15/2014 4:22 PM, graham wrote:
> On 15/08/2014 4:13 PM, Mayo wrote:
>> On 8/15/2014 1:30 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:09:09 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> A police force that brings out an armored vehicle and
>>>>> machine guns to a peaceful demonstration is over reacting. How are
>>>>> 10-12 YO girls tap dancing in the street a threat?
>>>>
>>>> How much rioting and looting can occur before a message need be sent?
>>>
>>> The story is changing now. The kid robbed a store.

>>

> ALLEGEDLY!!!!!!
>
> Graham
>

That's the keyword - yes.

Folks need to remember that.
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On 8/15/2014 4:24 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> On 8/15/2014 6:17 PM, Mayo wrote:
>> On 8/15/2014 1:50 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:10:25 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/15/2014 10:22 AM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, August 15, 2014 11:06:42 AM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The cop will never see a day in jail. He'll never even see a
>>>>>>>> court trial.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The police chief of that town appears to be a hard core bigot and
>>>>>>>> the county
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DA has come out and said the governor had no authority to take
>>>>>>>> the county PD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> off the case an said he shamed them. And he's the man who will
>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> charges - or not. I am betting on not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It will be interesting to hear the other side of the story. I saw a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> video of the victim's friend describing what had happened and it
>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> make much sense. It seems they was just walking along the
>>>>>>> road.The cops
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> stopped and cursed at them for walking on the road. Then the cop
>>>>>>> pulled
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> up and tried to pull the kid into the car and already had his gun
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pulled? The victim them ran away, stopped and put his hands up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meanwhile, the friend was running away because he was fearing for
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> own life, and still managed to see what had happened. There are some
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> credibility issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone willing to hear facts rather than spout off ignant supposition
>>>>>>
>>>>>> would have known that big doofuss was no innocent, he was being
>>>>>> sought
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for a strong arm robbery and when confronted resisted... stay tuned
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for more facts... all over the noos this AM. BTW, turns out the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> victim's friend was his accomplice in committing the robbery...
>>>>>> all on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> surveilence video. Stay tuned until the fat lady sings.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're getting two different North St. Louis County shooting cases
>>>>> mixed up.
>>>>> Michael Brown was guilty of nothing more than jaywalking.
>>>>
>>>> How do YOU know that ?
>>>>
>>>>> The other guy who
>>>>> got shot probably deserved it.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How do YOU know that?
>>>
>>> Easy when you have Narcisstic Persobnality Disorder. The only
>>> poassible truth is YOUR truth! ;-)
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...

>>
>> Hah!
>>
>> Lots of narcissists out here!
>>

>
> I'll wait for further details. It sounds like the Ferguson cops really
> screwed up but the presence of that liar and convicted libeler Al
> Sharpton does not persuade me to sympathize..
>

All the regular baiters...unfortunate...
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