"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:40:03 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:52:34 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, they were _delicious_. My wife cooked them (while I was at
>>>>>>> the doctor w/ one of our boys) and said they were so messy that the
>>>>>>> grill was impossible, and that even cooking them in the cast iron
>>>>>>> skillet wasn't easy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After the patties had been in the refrigerator for a few hours, we
>>>>>>> took a look at them - they hadn't leached out enough water to make
>>>>>>> a puddle on the plate, so we figured they were dry enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We will definitely do this again. I think keeping the veggies in
>>>>>>> bigger pieces makes sense, or at least some part of them in bigger
>>>>>>> pieces. Thanks for the input, folks - well, thanks for most of it,
>>>>>>> anyway
>>>>>>> ... Further suggestions will be entertained, especially if
>>>>>>> they're entertaining.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wondering if the addition of ground flax seeds would help with the
>>>>>> sloppiness? I had no idea why people buy flax seeds until today. I
>>>>>> learned that they add fiber and a certain amount of "glue" to what
>>>>>> you're cooking.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it would work. It is what I used to use in my meatloaf. It's
>>>>> great as a binder and it will soak up the excess moisture.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to everyone for the suggestion. We are getting ready to cook
>>>> batch #2 today, for which we pressed out some of the liquid but didn't
>>>> change the ingredients list or the method, so it's mushy veggies again.
>>>> We'll keep experimenting.
>>>
>>> Try cooking the veggies first. I once tried hamburger patties with
>>> chopped raw onions in them. Did not work. Fell all apart.
>>
>>Yes. I don't make burgers but I do make meat loaf and I cook the veggies
>>first. Using raw one never came out well.
>
> Raw veggies work well in meat loaf, if you grind the veggies too...
> saves a lot of knife work. I grind raw onions into meat loaf, just
> peel, slice into wedges and grind... celery and carrots make good
> pushers. I like to grind in raw potatoes as well, don't even need to
> peel, just scrub, slice into wedges and grind. I grind in parsley
> stems and all, why waste the stems. The only thing doesn't grind well
> is garlic, it tends to stick to itself in a clump, no matter how much
> you mix garlic won't disperse. I don't like raw garlic in meat loaf
> anyway, it won't cook, it stays raw to the end... use granulated same
> as in sausage... meat loaf is technically sausage, same as all the
> other loaves sold at the deli; olive loaf, pickle & pimento loaf,
> leberkase, pepper loaf, and my favorite, headcheese.
> http://www.foodsubs.com/MeatcureCC.html

Yes, I mince/grind all the veg I put in.

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On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 2:25:28 PM UTC-5, Mayo wrote:
> On 8/19/2014 1:12 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > Mixing in crap with your ground meat for burgers is sacrilege.
>
And the crap people add is amazing: ketchup, dehydrated onion, salad dressing
mix from packets... That's not cooking, it's slopping.
>
> > -sw
>
>
>
> How long have you been worshipping cows?

How long have you been spelling worshiping with two Pees?

--Bryan

On 8/22/2014 10:19 AM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 2:25:28 PM UTC-5, Mayo wrote:
>> On 8/19/2014 1:12 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> Mixing in crap with your ground meat for burgers is sacrilege.
>>
> And the crap people add is amazing: ketchup, dehydrated onion, salad dressing
> mix from packets... That's not cooking, it's slopping.

Why yes it is.

But then so is the condimental crap that gets slathered on burgers -
anything to hide the taste of the meat I suppose...

>>
>>> -sw
>>
>>
>>
>> How long have you been worshipping cows?
>
> How long have you been spelling worshiping with two Pees?
>
> --Bryan

How recently have you been reduced to sp. flames?

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:40:03 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:52:34 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, they were _delicious_. My wife cooked them (while I was at
>>>>>>> the doctor w/ one of our boys) and said they were so messy that the
>>>>>>> grill was impossible, and that even cooking them in the cast iron
>>>>>>> skillet wasn't easy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After the patties had been in the refrigerator for a few hours, we
>>>>>>> took a look at them - they hadn't leached out enough water to make
>>>>>>> a puddle on the plate, so we figured they were dry enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We will definitely do this again. I think keeping the veggies in
>>>>>>> bigger pieces makes sense, or at least some part of them in bigger
>>>>>>> pieces. Thanks for the input, folks - well, thanks for most of it,
>>>>>>> anyway
>>>>>>> ... Further suggestions will be entertained, especially if
>>>>>>> they're entertaining.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wondering if the addition of ground flax seeds would help with the
>>>>>> sloppiness? I had no idea why people buy flax seeds until today. I
>>>>>> learned that they add fiber and a certain amount of "glue" to what
>>>>>> you're cooking.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it would work. It is what I used to use in my meatloaf. It's
>>>>> great as a binder and it will soak up the excess moisture.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to everyone for the suggestion. We are getting ready to cook
>>>> batch #2 today, for which we pressed out some of the liquid but didn't
>>>> change the ingredients list or the method, so it's mushy veggies again.
>>>> We'll keep experimenting.
>>>
>>> Try cooking the veggies first. I once tried hamburger patties with
>>> chopped raw onions in them. Did not work. Fell all apart.
>>
>>Yes. I don't make burgers but I do make meat loaf and I cook the veggies
>>first. Using raw one never came out well.
>
> Raw veggies work well in meat loaf, if you grind the veggies too...
> saves a lot of knife work. I grind raw onions into meat loaf, just
> peel, slice into wedges and grind... celery and carrots make good
> pushers. I like to grind in raw potatoes as well, don't even need to
> peel, just scrub, slice into wedges and grind. I grind in parsley
> stems and all, why waste the stems. The only thing doesn't grind well
> is garlic, it tends to stick to itself in a clump, no matter how much
> you mix garlic won't disperse. I don't like raw garlic in meat loaf
> anyway, it won't cook, it stays raw to the end... use granulated same
> as in sausage... meat loaf is technically sausage, same as all the
> other loaves sold at the deli; olive loaf, pickle & pimento loaf,
> leberkase, pepper loaf, and my favorite, headcheese.
> http://www.foodsubs.com/MeatcureCC.html

I used to use raw in meatloaf but they gave off a lot of liquid. I do my
meatloaf free form. The raw did work and I never actually had a mess in my
oven but it always looked like I would. I just prefer the finished product
when the veggies are cooked first. My veggies are very finely minced. Used
to put in the food processor but no longer have one. I live with people who
freak if they see a veggie chunk.