Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust

Published Friday, Aug. 29, 2014 | 3:46 p.m.

Updated 26 minutes ago

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A 67-year-old Louisville woman who brought home a
blue ribbon for her buttermilk pie at this year's Kentucky State Fair
may lose the prize after saying she used a store-bought crust.

Linda Horton said Friday she hasn't had any success in making her own
crust, so she used one from the grocery.

The Courier-Journal, which first reported on the controversy, printed
her recipe earlier this week. Some people who saw it asked Kentucky
State Fair Culinary Superintendent Stephen Lee whether anything other
than homemade crust was permissible.

Lee says he notified fair officials. He says if it's determined Horton
used a store-bought crust, the win will be voided.

Horton says she has been contacted by a fair official and was told she
would hear something in two weeks.

On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 19:14:56 -0400, Travis McGee >
wrote:

>
>Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
>
>Published Friday, Aug. 29, 2014 | 3:46 p.m.
>
>Updated 26 minutes ago
>
>LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A 67-year-old Louisville woman who brought home a
>blue ribbon for her buttermilk pie at this year's Kentucky State Fair
>may lose the prize after saying she used a store-bought crust.
>
>Linda Horton said Friday she hasn't had any success in making her own
>crust, so she used one from the grocery.
>
>The Courier-Journal, which first reported on the controversy, printed
>her recipe earlier this week. Some people who saw it asked Kentucky
>State Fair Culinary Superintendent Stephen Lee whether anything other
>than homemade crust was permissible.
>
>Lee says he notified fair officials. He says if it's determined Horton
>used a store-bought crust, the win will be voided.
>
>Horton says she has been contacted by a fair official and was told she
>would hear something in two weeks.

I won $50 once (first place) in a dessert competetion we had at an IBM
luncheon we had when I worked for IBM. I made a raspberry/strawberry
pie with a biased lattice crust.

I think it helped me too tht rthisb luncheon was in like Jan or Feb in
the dead of Winter, and my poie was VERY Summery!

And yes the crust was home made. Pie crust is terribly easy to make
and I make a very good pie crust.

John Kuthe...

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"Travis McGee" > wrote in message
...
>
> Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
>


"may"?

On 8/29/2014 7:14 PM, Travis McGee wrote:
>
> Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
>
> Published Friday, Aug. 29, 2014 | 3:46 p.m.
>
> Updated 26 minutes ago
>
> LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A 67-year-old Louisville woman who brought home a
> blue ribbon for her buttermilk pie at this year's Kentucky State Fair
> may lose the prize after saying she used a store-bought crust.
>
Dayum! That really rocked my world. I'm terribly upset.

Jill

On 8/29/2014 6:44 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/29/2014 7:14 PM, Travis McGee wrote:
>>
>> Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
>>
>> Published Friday, Aug. 29, 2014 | 3:46 p.m.
>>
>> Updated 26 minutes ago
>>
>> LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A 67-year-old Louisville woman who brought home a
>> blue ribbon for her buttermilk pie at this year's Kentucky State Fair
>> may lose the prize after saying she used a store-bought crust.
>>
> Dayum! That really rocked my world. I'm terribly upset.
>
> Jill

Wait, the woman is YOU?

"Travis McGee" > wrote in message
...
>
> Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
>
> Published Friday, Aug. 29, 2014 | 3:46 p.m.
>
> Updated 26 minutes ago
>
> LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A 67-year-old Louisville woman who brought home a
> blue ribbon for her buttermilk pie at this year's Kentucky State Fair may
> lose the prize after saying she used a store-bought crust.
>
> Linda Horton said Friday she hasn't had any success in making her own
> crust, so she used one from the grocery.
>
> The Courier-Journal, which first reported on the controversy, printed her
> recipe earlier this week. Some people who saw it asked Kentucky State Fair
> Culinary Superintendent Stephen Lee whether anything other than homemade
> crust was permissible.
>
> Lee says he notified fair officials. He says if it's determined Horton
> used a store-bought crust, the win will be voided.
>
> Horton says she has been contacted by a fair official and was told she
> would hear something in two weeks.

Interesting. I don't know how those things work. I have seen contests
where you are required to use a purchased product. And while standing in
line at the grocery store, I picked up a cooking magazine. I put it right
back when the first recipe I randomly looked at called for purchased
ingredients.

Note that I have nothing against purchased ingredients. But I would never
pay money for a magazine that told me how to put them together.

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 19:14:56 -0400, Travis McGee >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
>>
>>Published Friday, Aug. 29, 2014 | 3:46 p.m.
>>
>>Updated 26 minutes ago
>>
>>LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) - A 67-year-old Louisville woman who brought home a
>>blue ribbon for her buttermilk pie at this year's Kentucky State Fair
>>may lose the prize after saying she used a store-bought crust.
>>
>>Linda Horton said Friday she hasn't had any success in making her own
>>crust, so she used one from the grocery.
>>
>>The Courier-Journal, which first reported on the controversy, printed
>>her recipe earlier this week. Some people who saw it asked Kentucky
>>State Fair Culinary Superintendent Stephen Lee whether anything other
>>than homemade crust was permissible.
>>
>>Lee says he notified fair officials. He says if it's determined Horton
>>used a store-bought crust, the win will be voided.
>>
>>Horton says she has been contacted by a fair official and was told she
>>would hear something in two weeks.
>
> I won $50 once (first place) in a dessert competetion we had at an IBM
> luncheon we had when I worked for IBM. I made a raspberry/strawberry
> pie with a biased lattice crust.
>
> I think it helped me too tht rthisb luncheon was in like Jan or Feb in
> the dead of Winter, and my poie was VERY Summery!
>
> And yes the crust was home made. Pie crust is terribly easy to make
> and I make a very good pie crust.
>
> John Kuthe...

Might be easy for you. I never had any luck with them. Not that I tried
them often as I am not a real pie lover. I also dislike making most rolled
cookies. I think pie crust either comes easily to you or it doesn't. I'd
rather make a crisp or use phyllo or some other kind of purchased dough.
But I'm not entering any contests.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 19:14:56 -0400, Travis McGee wrote:
>
>> LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) ¡X A 67-year-old Louisville woman who brought home a
>> blue ribbon for her buttermilk pie at this year's Kentucky State Fair
>> may lose the prize after saying she used a store-bought crust.
>
> Here's the original article where she tells of the Pillsbury brand
> rolled pie crust. It also says the same pie won the Blue Ribbon last
> year, too. So she may have to forfeit two blue ribbons.
>
> -sw

Heh. So much for being honest!

"Pico Rico" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Travis McGee" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
>>
>
>
> "may"?

Perhaps there were no clear cut rules?

On 8/29/2014 8:04 PM, Pico Rico wrote:
> "Travis McGee" > wrote

>> Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
>>
>
>
> "may"?

She has my permission. FWIW.

nancy

On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 19:19:57 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 19:14:56 -0400, Travis McGee >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
>>>
>>>Published Friday, Aug. 29, 2014 | 3:46 p.m.
>>>
>>>Updated 26 minutes ago
>>>
>>>LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) - A 67-year-old Louisville woman who brought home a
>>>blue ribbon for her buttermilk pie at this year's Kentucky State Fair
>>>may lose the prize after saying she used a store-bought crust.
>>>
>>>Linda Horton said Friday she hasn't had any success in making her own
>>>crust, so she used one from the grocery.
>>>
>>>The Courier-Journal, which first reported on the controversy, printed
>>>her recipe earlier this week. Some people who saw it asked Kentucky
>>>State Fair Culinary Superintendent Stephen Lee whether anything other
>>>than homemade crust was permissible.
>>>
>>>Lee says he notified fair officials. He says if it's determined Horton
>>>used a store-bought crust, the win will be voided.
>>>
>>>Horton says she has been contacted by a fair official and was told she
>>>would hear something in two weeks.
>>
>> I won $50 once (first place) in a dessert competetion we had at an IBM
>> luncheon we had when I worked for IBM. I made a raspberry/strawberry
>> pie with a biased lattice crust.
>>
>> I think it helped me too tht rthisb luncheon was in like Jan or Feb in
>> the dead of Winter, and my poie was VERY Summery!
>>
>> And yes the crust was home made. Pie crust is terribly easy to make
>> and I make a very good pie crust.
>
>Might be easy for you. I never had any luck with them. Not that I tried
>them often as I am not a real pie lover.

Of course not.

>I also dislike making most rolled
>cookies.

That's so out of character for you.

>I think pie crust either comes easily to you or it doesn't. I'd
>rather make a crisp or use phyllo or some other kind of purchased dough.
>But I'm not entering any contests.

But here we have your reply, all about your dislikes, and not much
else.

In article >, says...
>
> Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
>
> Published Friday, Aug. 29, 2014 | 3:46 p.m.
>
> Updated 26 minutes ago
>
> LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) ? A 67-year-old Louisville woman who brought home a
> blue ribbon for her buttermilk pie at this year's Kentucky State Fair
> may lose the prize after saying she used a store-bought crust.
>
> Linda Horton said Friday she hasn't had any success in making her own
> crust, so she used one from the grocery.
>
> The Courier-Journal, which first reported on the controversy, printed
> her recipe earlier this week. Some people who saw it asked Kentucky
> State Fair Culinary Superintendent Stephen Lee whether anything other
> than homemade crust was permissible.
>
> Lee says he notified fair officials. He says if it's determined Horton
> used a store-bought crust, the win will be voided.
>
> Horton says she has been contacted by a fair official and was told she
> would hear something in two weeks.

The first year my husband entered bread into the local show, his was
the only hand-made loaf and all the rest (including the first prize
winner) were made in bread machines. First prize went to a loaf that
was made in a bread machine and he demanded a Steward's Enquiry :-)

The following year there were separate classes for BM and handmade
breads sparking lots more local interest in hand-made bread. Within a
couple of years the BM class shrunk to nothing and disappeared and now
all the bread entries are handmade. His win every year (he's a fantastic
self-taught baker).

For the past two years he's also won the top baking prize, a silver
tray, for most points in the baking section (he also enters all the
cake, scone and shortbread classes.

Janet UK

Travis McGee wrote:
>
> Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust

<snip>

Glad to hear it wasn't RFC's beloved blue ribbon Barb! heheh

G.

On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 11:21:32 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> In article >, says...
> >
> > Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
> >
> > Published Friday, Aug. 29, 2014 | 3:46 p.m.
> >
> > Updated 26 minutes ago
> >
> > LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) ? A 67-year-old Louisville woman who brought home a
> > blue ribbon for her buttermilk pie at this year's Kentucky State Fair
> > may lose the prize after saying she used a store-bought crust.
> >
> > Linda Horton said Friday she hasn't had any success in making her own
> > crust, so she used one from the grocery.
> >
> > The Courier-Journal, which first reported on the controversy, printed
> > her recipe earlier this week. Some people who saw it asked Kentucky
> > State Fair Culinary Superintendent Stephen Lee whether anything other
> > than homemade crust was permissible.
> >
> > Lee says he notified fair officials. He says if it's determined Horton
> > used a store-bought crust, the win will be voided.
> >
> > Horton says she has been contacted by a fair official and was told she
> > would hear something in two weeks.
>
> The first year my husband entered bread into the local show, his was
> the only hand-made loaf and all the rest (including the first prize
> winner) were made in bread machines. First prize went to a loaf that
> was made in a bread machine and he demanded a Steward's Enquiry :-)
>
> The following year there were separate classes for BM and handmade
> breads sparking lots more local interest in hand-made bread. Within a
> couple of years the BM class shrunk to nothing and disappeared and now
> all the bread entries are handmade. His win every year (he's a fantastic
> self-taught baker).
>
> For the past two years he's also won the top baking prize, a silver
> tray, for most points in the baking section (he also enters all the
> cake, scone and shortbread classes.
>
That's great, you must be very proud!

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Shocking!! Call the Food Police!!

N.

In article >,
"Pico Rico" > wrote:

> "Travis McGee" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
> >
>
>
> "may"?

That was my first thought too. But then, where do you draw the line? Is
it OK to use a can of sweetened condensed milk or not? Can you use
canned pumpkin? Maybe you should mill your own flour (lots of people do)
or churn your own butter? Mix your own spice blend or use commercial
blends?

As long as it was assembled and baked at home, anybody else could have
used the same crust she used. Even makes it more likely I could
reproduce her results with her same recipe.

On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:48:01 -0500, Mark Storkamp
> wrote:

> In article >,
> "Pico Rico" > wrote:
>
> > "Travis McGee" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
> > >
> >
> >
> > "may"?
>
> That was my first thought too. But then, where do you draw the line? Is
> it OK to use a can of sweetened condensed milk or not? Can you use
> canned pumpkin? Maybe you should mill your own flour (lots of people do)
> or churn your own butter? Mix your own spice blend or use commercial
> blends?
>
> As long as it was assembled and baked at home, anybody else could have
> used the same crust she used. Even makes it more likely I could
> reproduce her results with her same recipe.

The rules clearly state that the crust needs to be made from scratch.
Kentucky State Fair Premium List and General Rules Book, page 203: “No
commercial pie crusts may be used”. As a past contestant and contest
winner, she already knew that.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/02/di...llsbury-crust/
End of story, but I'd like to see her filling recipe anyway. Maybe
Pillsbury will buy it from her.


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On 9/2/2014 11:00 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:48:01 -0500, Mark Storkamp
> > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> "Pico Rico" > wrote:
>>
>>> "Travis McGee" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "may"?
>>
>> That was my first thought too. But then, where do you draw the line? Is
>> it OK to use a can of sweetened condensed milk or not? Can you use
>> canned pumpkin? Maybe you should mill your own flour (lots of people do)
>> or churn your own butter? Mix your own spice blend or use commercial
>> blends?
>>
>> As long as it was assembled and baked at home, anybody else could have
>> used the same crust she used. Even makes it more likely I could
>> reproduce her results with her same recipe.
>
> The rules clearly state that the crust needs to be made from scratch.
> Kentucky State Fair Premium List and General Rules Book, page 203: “No
> commercial pie crusts may be used”. As a past contestant and contest
> winner, she already knew that.
> http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/02/di...llsbury-crust/
> End of story, but I'd like to see her filling recipe anyway. Maybe
> Pillsbury will buy it from her.
>
>
It is a completely sensible requirement that crust and filling should be
made from scratch since it is the combination of filling and crust that
makes a good pie.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 8/29/2014 7:44 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/29/2014 7:14 PM, Travis McGee wrote:
>>
>> Woman may lose blue ribbon over purchased piecrust
>>
>> Published Friday, Aug. 29, 2014 | 3:46 p.m.
>>
>> Updated 26 minutes ago
>>
>> LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A 67-year-old Louisville woman who brought
>> home a
>> blue ribbon for her buttermilk pie at this year's Kentucky State Fair
>> may lose the prize after saying she used a store-bought crust.
>>
> Dayum! That really rocked my world. I'm terribly upset.
>

Traditionally, the needle arts competitions in the fairs around here
have always prohibited entries made from kits, yet every year at least
one of the winners is identified as being a kit production.

On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:14:24 AM UTC-4, James Silverton wrote:
>
> It is a completely sensible requirement that crust and filling should be
> made from scratch since it is the combination of filling and crust that
> makes a good pie.
>
> Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
>
It's quite an indictment if a store bought crust can win. It
seems that there should be no winner.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On Tue, 2 Sep 2014 08:55:52 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:14:24 AM UTC-4, James Silverton wrote:
> >
> > It is a completely sensible requirement that crust and filling should be
> > made from scratch since it is the combination of filling and crust that
> > makes a good pie.
> >
> > Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
> >
> It's quite an indictment if a store bought crust can win. It
> seems that there should be no winner.
>
I thought it was good advertising for the commercial crust - they'd be
fools not to capitalize on it somehow.


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