On 9/7/2014 5:21 PM, Mayo wrote:

>>> That 124 also became the Russian Lada, iirc...
>>
>> Yes, I had one. After half a year, it didn't pass the safety test
>> because "it was about to break in two". I always thought it acted
>> weird going around bends.
>>
> Wow.
>
> And they say the Yugos were bad...
>
> That's Trabant bad!

Yugo bought some of the Fiat tooling. I think it was the 128 they used.

On 9/7/2014 2:06 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/7/2014 5:21 PM, Mayo wrote:
>
>>>> That 124 also became the Russian Lada, iirc...
>>>
>>> Yes, I had one. After half a year, it didn't pass the safety test
>>> because "it was about to break in two". I always thought it acted
>>> weird going around bends.
>>>
>> Wow.
>>
>> And they say the Yugos were bad...
>>
>> That's Trabant bad!
>
> Yugo bought some of the Fiat tooling. I think it was the 128 they used.

You're right about the 128 connection. Fiat had the brilliant idea of
transplanting the entire drivetrain of a 128 into a small 2 seater body
and make themselves an instant mid-engine vehicle ala Ferrari. I was
thinking that one could transplant an entire drivetrain from a Yugo into
an X1/9. That theory never got to be tested - thank God!

Years later, Pontiac sorta stole that idea for the Fiero.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Sunday, September 7, 2014 8:04:43 AM UTC-10, Mayo wrote:
> On 9/7/2014 11:19 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > "dsi1" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
>
> >> On 9/6/2014 11:47 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>> I had a wee Fiat spider but that was more than 30 years ago.
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >> Was the engine in the front or the back?
>
> >
>
> > Oh crumbs, now you've got me there. I can't remember. I've had too
>
> > many cars. It was a very wee sports car though.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> Front.
>
>
>
> The 500 was in the back.

In this country, Fiat had the 124 and 850 convertables. The 850 had a tiny
engine in the rear. The apeal for me was that I could probably take the
engine out easily to work on it. I'm betting that me and a buddy would be
able to lift that thing out by hand. I should have gotten one but the one I
checked out was a tad too rusty.

I sure wish I had an 850 Spider today. That would make my everyday driving a
lot more enjoyable although, it might not be as fun in colder, wetter
climes. The 850 had a styling that was just about perfect for it's size.
Inside, the trim and parts was pretty much like it's 124 bigger brother.
What the hell is there not to love?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma58EVmoBu0

---

When I was in Jr. High, we had a teacher who may well have been ***. In
those days, nobody would admit to it openly, especially not a teacher. He
also had one glass eye. For these two things alone, he was teased very
badly by a lot of the male students and in those days it was tolerated.

Worse still, he drove a Fiat. It was so lightweight that every day, some of
the boys would pick it up and move it somewhere else. Sometimes into the
middle of the street. Drove the teacher nuts. But the last straw came when
they turned it upside down. Damage was actually done then and he did take
action. Not long after, the poor man had a nervous breakdown.

On 9/7/2014 5:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 9/7/2014 10:43 AM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:55:18 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 9/6/2014 5:41 PM, Mayo wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Had a neighbor with one - total shop queen, but he adored it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> It was a cute little wedge I have to say.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You take the roof section off and stash it behind the seat.
>>>
>>
>> No. Not the X 1/9. The roof went in the front trunk. I took that
>> thing on and off a lot of times.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
>
> You're right about that. Sorry. I must be confusing it with the Porsche
> 914. Of the two cars, the X1/9 was a lot more fun.

Than the Volks/porsche?

For sure.

Sturdy little ride for a tarted up Porsche.

On 9/7/2014 5:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 9/7/2014 10:10 AM, Mayo wrote:
>> On 9/7/2014 2:03 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 9/7/2014 9:01 AM, Mayo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The notion is so frightening, yet we never saw many VWs or Corvairs
>>>> burning by the road, so I guess it was safe enough.
>>>>
>>>> I can just imagine what EPA and DOT would say about that today!
>>>
>>> The air cooled VWs were famous for engine fires. The VW engineers at the
>>> time were not interested in proper fuel line connections or using what
>>> we call "clamps" on certain hoses and the fittings on the carbs tended
>>> to leak. When I say "engine fires" I literally mean engine fires. The
>>> alloy they used on the early ones would ignite and burn so hot it looked
>>> like the sun was in the rear dripping hot drops of molten sunlight. It's
>>> an awesome sight to see.
>>
>> Wow, beautifully described!
>>
>> I mean assuming it's not my car...
>>
>> :-)
>
> Magnesium fires are awesome!


Heh, been there, done that, no specifics....

On 9/7/2014 6:06 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/7/2014 5:21 PM, Mayo wrote:
>
>>>> That 124 also became the Russian Lada, iirc...
>>>
>>> Yes, I had one. After half a year, it didn't pass the safety test
>>> because "it was about to break in two". I always thought it acted
>>> weird going around bends.
>>>
>> Wow.
>>
>> And they say the Yugos were bad...
>>
>> That's Trabant bad!
>
> Yugo bought some of the Fiat tooling. I think it was the 128 they used.

Good catch, yes.

On 9/7/2014 6:33 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 15:21:12 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 9/7/2014 2:59 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
>>> On Sat, 06 Sep 2014 21:41:49 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/6/2014 9:13 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On 9/6/2014 3:39 PM, Mayo wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/6/2014 5:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/6/2014 12:08 PM, Mayo wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2014 4:02 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2014 10:48 AM, Mayo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2014 2:33 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2014 6:44 AM, Mayo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2014 3:28 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2014 11:24 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A Vienna sausage is a wiener, which is called a Frankfurter in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Austria, which is also called a Frankfurter in Frankfurt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what that call a Norwegian rat in Norway. My guess is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Swedish
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rat." My understanding is that Chinese food is called "food" in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> China.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it's the same with Italy and "Italian food" - so what else
>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>> one eat there?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a big fan of pasta so I guess I'm screwed. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not for a moment, you'd be finding wonderful grilled mackarel,
>>>>>>>>>> Neopolitan pizzas, sublime grilled lamb, pork, and all manner of
>>>>>>>>>> prawns
>>>>>>>>>> and such.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They have a very broad food spectrum.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I love those Italians - maybe not so much their food but their cars
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> films. Two out of three ain't bad. :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Spoken like man who hasn't owned a FIAT yet...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've had three Fiat 124 Sport Coupes. I loved those cars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You must be the luckiest man on earth then!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you cut some special deal with Tony?
>>>>>
>>>>> I sure did. I'd say "Fix It Again, Tony" and then hand him some loot.
>>>>> Actually, I did all the work myself.
>>>>
>>>> Good on you.
>>>>
>>>> That 124 also became the Russian Lada, iirc...
>>>
>>> Yes, I had one. After half a year, it didn't pass the safety test
>>> because "it was about to break in two". I always thought it acted
>>> weird going around bends.
>>>
>> Wow.
>>
>> And they say the Yugos were bad...
>>
>> That's Trabant bad!
>
> I didn't buy it new, by the way. It was very second hand.
>
Yeah, even when NEW!

On 9/7/2014 6:51 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 9/7/2014 2:06 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 9/7/2014 5:21 PM, Mayo wrote:
>>
>>>>> That 124 also became the Russian Lada, iirc...
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I had one. After half a year, it didn't pass the safety test
>>>> because "it was about to break in two". I always thought it acted
>>>> weird going around bends.
>>>>
>>> Wow.
>>>
>>> And they say the Yugos were bad...
>>>
>>> That's Trabant bad!
>>
>> Yugo bought some of the Fiat tooling. I think it was the 128 they used.
>
> You're right about the 128 connection. Fiat had the brilliant idea of
> transplanting the entire drivetrain of a 128 into a small 2 seater body
> and make themselves an instant mid-engine vehicle ala Ferrari. I was
> thinking that one could transplant an entire drivetrain from a Yugo into
> an X1/9. That theory never got to be tested - thank God!
>
> Years later, Pontiac sorta stole that idea for the Fiero.


OH YEAH!

On 9/7/2014 4:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
> When I was in Jr. High, we had a teacher who may well have been ***. In
> those days, nobody would admit to it openly, especially not a teacher.
> He also had one glass eye. For these two things alone, he was teased
> very badly by a lot of the male students and in those days it was
> tolerated.
>
> Worse still, he drove a Fiat. It was so lightweight that every day,
> some of the boys would pick it up and move it somewhere else. Sometimes
> into the middle of the street. Drove the teacher nuts. But the last
> straw came when they turned it upside down. Damage was actually done
> then and he did take action. Not long after, the poor man had a nervous
> breakdown.

I didn't know there was such a thing as *** people when I was going to
high school. When I got to college, my eyes were opened and I finally
got it. It suddenly hit me that a couple of my classmates were totally
flaming and it made sense when I was told by an authority figure to stay
away from "that piano player." As it goes, I was totally an innocent.

On 9/7/2014 6:43 PM, Mayo wrote:
> On 9/7/2014 5:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 9/7/2014 10:43 AM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:55:18 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On 9/6/2014 5:41 PM, Mayo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Had a neighbor with one - total shop queen, but he adored it.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It was a cute little wedge I have to say.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You take the roof section off and stash it behind the seat.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No. Not the X 1/9. The roof went in the front trunk. I took that
>>> thing on and off a lot of times.
>>>
>>> --Bryan
>>>
>>
>> You're right about that. Sorry. I must be confusing it with the Porsche
>> 914. Of the two cars, the X1/9 was a lot more fun.
>
> Than the Volks/porsche?
>
> For sure.
>
> Sturdy little ride for a tarted up Porsche.

My brother had a beautiful one with very shiny orangy-yellow Imron
paint. That car felt huge - I was never very comfortable driving that
one. It probably would have been more popular as upscale VW rather than
a diluted Porsche.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/7/2014 4:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>
>> When I was in Jr. High, we had a teacher who may well have been ***. In
>> those days, nobody would admit to it openly, especially not a teacher.
>> He also had one glass eye. For these two things alone, he was teased
>> very badly by a lot of the male students and in those days it was
>> tolerated.
>>
>> Worse still, he drove a Fiat. It was so lightweight that every day,
>> some of the boys would pick it up and move it somewhere else. Sometimes
>> into the middle of the street. Drove the teacher nuts. But the last
>> straw came when they turned it upside down. Damage was actually done
>> then and he did take action. Not long after, the poor man had a nervous
>> breakdown.
>
> I didn't know there was such a thing as *** people when I was going to
> high school. When I got to college, my eyes were opened and I finally got
> it. It suddenly hit me that a couple of my classmates were totally flaming
> and it made sense when I was told by an authority figure to stay away from
> "that piano player." As it goes, I was totally an innocent.

I had figured it out by high school but I didn't know in Jr. High. I had a
female friend who was Italian/American. She and her brother lived with
their dad. I don't know what became of the mom. She was never mentioned
and I never thought to ask. She wore boy's clothing. I just figured that
her dad probably didn't have a lot of money and he made her wear her
brother's outgrown clothes. My parents sometimes made me wear boy's
clothing as well if they found a good deal on it. I had a cardigan sweater,
some polo shirts and judging by some old pictures, baby clothes. They
always told me that nobody could tell the difference. They can! At least
for things with buttons because for some reason the buttons are on the
opposite side for male clothing.

Well one day I rode the bus home to my friend's house. We were sitting on
the seat together. I heard someone giggle that we were lezzies because my
friend had her arm around me. She didn't. She had just stretched her arm
across the back of the seat and wasn't even touching me. But whatever it
was, I figured that it must not be a good thing because people were
laughing.

I remember trying to look it up in the dictionary but of course it wasn't
there. I did ask around and someone (can't remember who) told me that it
was a female who liked other females. How's that for vague? Well, I was a
female and I did like other females but I also disliked some. So the waters
were still muddy there. No mention of sexuality there but even if there had
been, it likely would have confused me because although I knew the clinical
definition of sex, I didn't equate that to what sex really was.

My dad had told me that to make a baby, the dad plants a seed in the mom.
And our sex ed class wasn't much better. They did give technical details of
sperm meeting egg and so forth but never described the act. So while I had
seen sex in movies and such, I still didn't equate that to the making of
babies. And like our friend Bill Clinton, oral sex (although I called that
by another term) didn't equate to sex to me either!

Thankfully they cover this subject much better now in sex ed than they did
in those days. We were told that it was something that married people do,
so many of us were baffled when girls turned up pregnant. We also had some
girls who had been raped at school functions or after school and we didn't
equate to sex either. We somehow thought that they had just been beaten up
in a not so nice way but we weren't sure what way that was. I even knew one
girl who was raped. She was older than me and worked in the office with me.
But then she disappeared when they found out she was pregnant because in
those days pregnant girls weren't allowed in the regular schools. Not here
anyway.

I did manage to figure things out by tenth grade. Perhaps sooner. I
happened upon some books that my mom had. Recently published books. And
also my dad's Playboy collection.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/7/2014 4:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>
>> When I was in Jr. High, we had a teacher who may well have been ***. In
>> those days, nobody would admit to it openly, especially not a teacher.
>> He also had one glass eye. For these two things alone, he was teased
>> very badly by a lot of the male students and in those days it was
>> tolerated.
>>
>> Worse still, he drove a Fiat. It was so lightweight that every day,
>> some of the boys would pick it up and move it somewhere else. Sometimes
>> into the middle of the street. Drove the teacher nuts. But the last
>> straw came when they turned it upside down. Damage was actually done
>> then and he did take action. Not long after, the poor man had a nervous
>> breakdown.
>
> I didn't know there was such a thing as *** people when I was going to
> high school. When I got to college, my eyes were opened and I finally got
> it. It suddenly hit me that a couple of my classmates were totally flaming
> and it made sense when I was told by an authority figure to stay away from
> "that piano player." As it goes, I was totally an innocent.

The raciest thing I ever heard of in our (convent) school was the day Sister
M came in to announce that the reason one girl was off school, was because
she had tried to dye her hair blond and it had gone green! That was a
warning to us all

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/7/2014 4:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> When I was in Jr. High, we had a teacher who may well have been ***. In
>>> those days, nobody would admit to it openly, especially not a teacher.
>>> He also had one glass eye. For these two things alone, he was teased
>>> very badly by a lot of the male students and in those days it was
>>> tolerated.
>>>
>>> Worse still, he drove a Fiat. It was so lightweight that every day,
>>> some of the boys would pick it up and move it somewhere else. Sometimes
>>> into the middle of the street. Drove the teacher nuts. But the last
>>> straw came when they turned it upside down. Damage was actually done
>>> then and he did take action. Not long after, the poor man had a nervous
>>> breakdown.
>>
>> I didn't know there was such a thing as *** people when I was going to
>> high school. When I got to college, my eyes were opened and I finally got
>> it. It suddenly hit me that a couple of my classmates were totally
>> flaming and it made sense when I was told by an authority figure to stay
>> away from "that piano player." As it goes, I was totally an innocent.
>
> The raciest thing I ever heard of in our (convent) school was the day
> Sister M came in to announce that the reason one girl was off school, was
> because she had tried to dye her hair blond and it had gone green! That
> was a warning to us all

My mom's friend did that the day before Easter so there was no way she could
go to the beauty parlor to get it fixed. So she just decided to go with it
and wore an Easter bonnet with some fake Easter eggs on it.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 9/7/2014 4:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I was in Jr. High, we had a teacher who may well have been ***.
>>>> In
>>>> those days, nobody would admit to it openly, especially not a teacher.
>>>> He also had one glass eye. For these two things alone, he was teased
>>>> very badly by a lot of the male students and in those days it was
>>>> tolerated.
>>>>
>>>> Worse still, he drove a Fiat. It was so lightweight that every day,
>>>> some of the boys would pick it up and move it somewhere else.
>>>> Sometimes
>>>> into the middle of the street. Drove the teacher nuts. But the last
>>>> straw came when they turned it upside down. Damage was actually done
>>>> then and he did take action. Not long after, the poor man had a
>>>> nervous
>>>> breakdown.
>>>
>>> I didn't know there was such a thing as *** people when I was going to
>>> high school. When I got to college, my eyes were opened and I finally
>>> got it. It suddenly hit me that a couple of my classmates were totally
>>> flaming and it made sense when I was told by an authority figure to stay
>>> away from "that piano player." As it goes, I was totally an innocent.
>>
>> The raciest thing I ever heard of in our (convent) school was the day
>> Sister M came in to announce that the reason one girl was off school, was
>> because she had tried to dye her hair blond and it had gone green! That
>> was a warning to us all
>
> My mom's friend did that the day before Easter so there was no way she
> could go to the beauty parlor to get it fixed. So she just decided to go
> with it and wore an Easter bonnet with some fake Easter eggs on it.

heh

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On Sunday, September 7, 2014 4:06:07 PM UTC-4, Mayo wrote:
> On 9/7/2014 1:54 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> And the sparkling Sunbeam Tiger, with the small V8, that's another beauty!

For a small car V8 I prefer the Daimler SP250 (dart).

http://www.richardfisher.com

On Sunday, September 7, 2014 4:55:50 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I remember Sunbeam but not that model.
>
Looked the same as the Alpine but with a US V8 installed.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 9/7/2014 9:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/7/2014 4:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> When I was in Jr. High, we had a teacher who may well have been ***. In
>>> those days, nobody would admit to it openly, especially not a teacher.
>>> He also had one glass eye. For these two things alone, he was teased
>>> very badly by a lot of the male students and in those days it was
>>> tolerated.
>>>
>>> Worse still, he drove a Fiat. It was so lightweight that every day,
>>> some of the boys would pick it up and move it somewhere else. Sometimes
>>> into the middle of the street. Drove the teacher nuts. But the last
>>> straw came when they turned it upside down. Damage was actually done
>>> then and he did take action. Not long after, the poor man had a nervous
>>> breakdown.
>>
>> I didn't know there was such a thing as *** people when I was going to
>> high school. When I got to college, my eyes were opened and I finally
>> got it. It suddenly hit me that a couple of my classmates were totally
>> flaming and it made sense when I was told by an authority figure to
>> stay away from "that piano player." As it goes, I was totally an
>> innocent.
>
> I had figured it out by high school but I didn't know in Jr. High. I
> had a female friend who was Italian/American. She and her brother lived
> with their dad. I don't know what became of the mom. She was never
> mentioned and I never thought to ask. She wore boy's clothing. I just
> figured that her dad probably didn't have a lot of money and he made her
> wear her brother's outgrown clothes. My parents sometimes made me wear
> boy's clothing as well if they found a good deal on it. I had a cardigan
> sweater, some polo shirts and judging by some old pictures, baby
> clothes. They always told me that nobody could tell the difference.
> They can! At least for things with buttons because for some reason the
> buttons are on the opposite side for male clothing.
>
> Well one day I rode the bus home to my friend's house. We were sitting
> on the seat together. I heard someone giggle that we were lezzies
> because my friend had her arm around me. She didn't. She had just
> stretched her arm across the back of the seat and wasn't even touching
> me. But whatever it was, I figured that it must not be a good thing
> because people were laughing.
>
> I remember trying to look it up in the dictionary but of course it
> wasn't there. I did ask around and someone (can't remember who) told me
> that it was a female who liked other females. How's that for vague?
> Well, I was a female and I did like other females but I also disliked
> some. So the waters were still muddy there. No mention of sexuality
> there but even if there had been, it likely would have confused me
> because although I knew the clinical definition of sex, I didn't equate
> that to what sex really was.
>
> My dad had told me that to make a baby, the dad plants a seed in the
> mom. And our sex ed class wasn't much better. They did give technical
> details of sperm meeting egg and so forth but never described the act.
> So while I had seen sex in movies and such, I still didn't equate that
> to the making of babies. And like our friend Bill Clinton, oral sex
> (although I called that by another term) didn't equate to sex to me either!
>
> Thankfully they cover this subject much better now in sex ed than they
> did in those days. We were told that it was something that married
> people do, so many of us were baffled when girls turned up pregnant. We
> also had some girls who had been raped at school functions or after
> school and we didn't equate to sex either. We somehow thought that they
> had just been beaten up in a not so nice way but we weren't sure what
> way that was. I even knew one girl who was raped. She was older than
> me and worked in the office with me. But then she disappeared when they
> found out she was pregnant because in those days pregnant girls weren't
> allowed in the regular schools. Not here anyway.
>
> I did manage to figure things out by tenth grade. Perhaps sooner. I
> happened upon some books that my mom had. Recently published books.
> And also my dad's Playboy collection.
>
>

Sounds like the history of sex education in the 60s-70s. Mostly it was
all a mystery.

On 9/7/2014 10:55 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/7/2014 4:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> When I was in Jr. High, we had a teacher who may well have been ***. In
>>> those days, nobody would admit to it openly, especially not a teacher.
>>> He also had one glass eye. For these two things alone, he was teased
>>> very badly by a lot of the male students and in those days it was
>>> tolerated.
>>>
>>> Worse still, he drove a Fiat. It was so lightweight that every day,
>>> some of the boys would pick it up and move it somewhere else. Sometimes
>>> into the middle of the street. Drove the teacher nuts. But the last
>>> straw came when they turned it upside down. Damage was actually done
>>> then and he did take action. Not long after, the poor man had a nervous
>>> breakdown.
>>
>> I didn't know there was such a thing as *** people when I was going to
>> high school. When I got to college, my eyes were opened and I finally
>> got it. It suddenly hit me that a couple of my classmates were totally
>> flaming and it made sense when I was told by an authority figure to
>> stay away from "that piano player." As it goes, I was totally an
>> innocent.
>
> The raciest thing I ever heard of in our (convent) school was the day
> Sister M came in to announce that the reason one girl was off school,
> was because she had tried to dye her hair blond and it had gone green!
> That was a warning to us all
>

Here's to those days of innocence. :-)

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...

>> The raciest thing I ever heard of in our (convent) school was the day
>> Sister M came in to announce that the reason one girl was off school,
>> was because she had tried to dye her hair blond and it had gone green!
>> That was a warning to us all
>>
>
> Here's to those days of innocence. :-)

Indeed, but I never did try to dye my hair blond so it must have worked,
eh?))


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On Monday, September 8, 2014 8:35:13 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> >> The raciest thing I ever heard of in our (convent) school was the day
>
> >> Sister M came in to announce that the reason one girl was off school,
>
> >> was because she had tried to dye her hair blond and it had gone green!
>
> >> That was a warning to us all
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> > Here's to those days of innocence. :-)
>
>
>
> Indeed, but I never did try to dye my hair blond so it must have worked,
>
> eh?))
>

Hey, that girl who dyed her hair wasn't Hayley Mills, was it? That sure sounds like some kind of 60s schoolgirl trouble that she was always getting into. Oh that Hayley!

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"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On Monday, September 8, 2014 8:35:13 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>> >> The raciest thing I ever heard of in our (convent) school was the day
>>
>> >> Sister M came in to announce that the reason one girl was off school,
>>
>> >> was because she had tried to dye her hair blond and it had gone green!
>>
>> >> That was a warning to us all
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Here's to those days of innocence. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Indeed, but I never did try to dye my hair blond so it must have worked,
>>
>> eh?))
>>
>
> Hey, that girl who dyed her hair wasn't Hayley Mills, was it? That sure
> sounds like some kind of 60s schoolgirl trouble that she was always
> getting into. Oh that Hayley!

Hmm I think not )


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On 9/8/2014 12:31 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 9/7/2014 6:43 PM, Mayo wrote:
>> On 9/7/2014 5:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 9/7/2014 10:43 AM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, September 7, 2014 2:55:18 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On 9/6/2014 5:41 PM, Mayo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Had a neighbor with one - total shop queen, but he adored it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It was a cute little wedge I have to say.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You take the roof section off and stash it behind the seat.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No. Not the X 1/9. The roof went in the front trunk. I took that
>>>> thing on and off a lot of times.
>>>>
>>>> --Bryan
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're right about that. Sorry. I must be confusing it with the Porsche
>>> 914. Of the two cars, the X1/9 was a lot more fun.
>>
>> Than the Volks/porsche?
>>
>> For sure.
>>
>> Sturdy little ride for a tarted up Porsche.
>
> My brother had a beautiful one with very shiny orangy-yellow Imron
> paint. That car felt huge - I was never very comfortable driving that
> one. It probably would have been more popular as upscale VW rather than
> a diluted Porsche.

They retain a small but avid following.

And you're right, they felt larger than they were.

On 9/8/2014 7:51 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Sunday, September 7, 2014 4:06:07 PM UTC-4, Mayo wrote:
>> On 9/7/2014 1:54 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> And the sparkling Sunbeam Tiger, with the small V8, that's another beauty!
>
> For a small car V8 I prefer the Daimler SP250 (dart).
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>
It even looks like a dart!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler_SP250

Very cute, but less HP than the Tiger.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
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> On 9/7/2014 9:42 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 9/7/2014 4:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I was in Jr. High, we had a teacher who may well have been ***.
>>>> In
>>>> those days, nobody would admit to it openly, especially not a teacher.
>>>> He also had one glass eye. For these two things alone, he was teased
>>>> very badly by a lot of the male students and in those days it was
>>>> tolerated.
>>>>
>>>> Worse still, he drove a Fiat. It was so lightweight that every day,
>>>> some of the boys would pick it up and move it somewhere else.
>>>> Sometimes
>>>> into the middle of the street. Drove the teacher nuts. But the last
>>>> straw came when they turned it upside down. Damage was actually done
>>>> then and he did take action. Not long after, the poor man had a
>>>> nervous
>>>> breakdown.
>>>
>>> I didn't know there was such a thing as *** people when I was going to
>>> high school. When I got to college, my eyes were opened and I finally
>>> got it. It suddenly hit me that a couple of my classmates were totally
>>> flaming and it made sense when I was told by an authority figure to
>>> stay away from "that piano player." As it goes, I was totally an
>>> innocent.
>>
>> I had figured it out by high school but I didn't know in Jr. High. I
>> had a female friend who was Italian/American. She and her brother lived
>> with their dad. I don't know what became of the mom. She was never
>> mentioned and I never thought to ask. She wore boy's clothing. I just
>> figured that her dad probably didn't have a lot of money and he made her
>> wear her brother's outgrown clothes. My parents sometimes made me wear
>> boy's clothing as well if they found a good deal on it. I had a cardigan
>> sweater, some polo shirts and judging by some old pictures, baby
>> clothes. They always told me that nobody could tell the difference.
>> They can! At least for things with buttons because for some reason the
>> buttons are on the opposite side for male clothing.
>>
>> Well one day I rode the bus home to my friend's house. We were sitting
>> on the seat together. I heard someone giggle that we were lezzies
>> because my friend had her arm around me. She didn't. She had just
>> stretched her arm across the back of the seat and wasn't even touching
>> me. But whatever it was, I figured that it must not be a good thing
>> because people were laughing.
>>
>> I remember trying to look it up in the dictionary but of course it
>> wasn't there. I did ask around and someone (can't remember who) told me
>> that it was a female who liked other females. How's that for vague?
>> Well, I was a female and I did like other females but I also disliked
>> some. So the waters were still muddy there. No mention of sexuality
>> there but even if there had been, it likely would have confused me
>> because although I knew the clinical definition of sex, I didn't equate
>> that to what sex really was.
>>
>> My dad had told me that to make a baby, the dad plants a seed in the
>> mom. And our sex ed class wasn't much better. They did give technical
>> details of sperm meeting egg and so forth but never described the act.
>> So while I had seen sex in movies and such, I still didn't equate that
>> to the making of babies. And like our friend Bill Clinton, oral sex
>> (although I called that by another term) didn't equate to sex to me
>> either!
>>
>> Thankfully they cover this subject much better now in sex ed than they
>> did in those days. We were told that it was something that married
>> people do, so many of us were baffled when girls turned up pregnant. We
>> also had some girls who had been raped at school functions or after
>> school and we didn't equate to sex either. We somehow thought that they
>> had just been beaten up in a not so nice way but we weren't sure what
>> way that was. I even knew one girl who was raped. She was older than
>> me and worked in the office with me. But then she disappeared when they
>> found out she was pregnant because in those days pregnant girls weren't
>> allowed in the regular schools. Not here anyway.
>>
>> I did manage to figure things out by tenth grade. Perhaps sooner. I
>> happened upon some books that my mom had. Recently published books.
>> And also my dad's Playboy collection.
>>
>>
>
> Sounds like the history of sex education in the 60s-70s. Mostly it was all
> a mystery.

Thing is, I actually *did* know what sex was. I just didn't know that it
was sex!

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, September 8, 2014 8:35:13 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>> >> The raciest thing I ever heard of in our (convent) school was the day
>>
>> >> Sister M came in to announce that the reason one girl was off school,
>>
>> >> was because she had tried to dye her hair blond and it had gone green!
>>
>> >> That was a warning to us all
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Here's to those days of innocence. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Indeed, but I never did try to dye my hair blond so it must have worked,
>>
>> eh?))
>>
>
> Hey, that girl who dyed her hair wasn't Hayley Mills, was it? That sure
> sounds like some kind of 60s schoolgirl trouble that she was always
> getting into. Oh that Hayley!

Hehehe.

On 9/3/2014 10:26 AM, Helpful person wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:53:01 PM UTC-4, Travis McGee wrote:
>>
>> When I was a kid IHOP had "pigs in a blanket" that were pancakes rolled
>> around sausage links. They were great.
>
> In England we have Toad in the Hole. It's
> sausage inside a Yorkshire pudding batter.
> It's really good.
>

That sounds absolutely decadent.

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On 9/3/2014 2:58 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 18:40:23 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>
>>> 1 can of crescent rolls
>>> 1 package of smokies
>>
>> Oh, man. Cr*p on a plate. I have never liked smokies, tried crescent
>> rolls after may years and they were vile. Loved them when I was a
>> kid, but I didn't know any better back then.
>
> I never liked Smokies and never really liked Crescent rolls so I don't
> know why I keep trying recipes with them but I do.

Julie, that's why you hate food. You keep trying things you don't like.
There is a lot of food out there, you don't have to make yourself like
something you don't. It makes no sense.

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On 9/6/2014 8:47 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:

> On 9/2/2014 7:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> But any way you slice them, they're never as good as you think they
>> should be. Just my opinion on that.
>
> Well, I *like* Pillsbury Crescent Rolls - the original flavor. I think
> they're quite tasty and a great addition to any meal, especially for
> those of us that don't/can't bake.
>
> Just my opinion.
>

I like them too.

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"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 9/3/2014 2:58 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 18:40:23 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1 can of crescent rolls
>>>> 1 package of smokies
>>>
>>> Oh, man. Cr*p on a plate. I have never liked smokies, tried crescent
>>> rolls after may years and they were vile. Loved them when I was a
>>> kid, but I didn't know any better back then.
>>
>> I never liked Smokies and never really liked Crescent rolls so I don't
>> know why I keep trying recipes with them but I do.
>
> Julie, that's why you hate food. You keep trying things you don't like.
> There is a lot of food out there, you don't have to make yourself like
> something you don't. It makes no sense.

I'm not always making the food for me. Sometimes I make things that I think
my husband would like but he doesn't. So far nobody has actually liked
anything that I have made with Crescent rolls except for Empanadas. My
husband and FIL did like those but I made them extra spicy and the males in
his family will eat anything that it extra spicy.

I made the White Castle casserole because I find White Castles to be okay.
I don't really like them or really any hamburger but it is one way for me to
get protein. And I can digest them. I actually liked the casserole better
than I do the White Castles themselves but daughter refused to eat it so
there were leftovers. Leftovers that just went soggy and didn't reheat well
at all. I did eat the rest on subsequent days but would rather have eaten
something else.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
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> On 9/3/2014 10:26 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:53:01 PM UTC-4, Travis McGee wrote:
>>>
>>> When I was a kid IHOP had "pigs in a blanket" that were pancakes rolled
>>> around sausage links. They were great.
>>
>> In England we have Toad in the Hole. It's
>> sausage inside a Yorkshire pudding batter.
>> It's really good.
>>
>
> That sounds absolutely decadent.

Old recipe still used today)

http://www.celtnet.org.uk/recipes/mi...ad-in-the-hole


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On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 9:02:13 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Old recipe still used today)
> http://www.celtnet.org.uk/recipes/mi...ad-in-the-hole

I wonder when sausages first started to be
used or if there were regional differences?

http://www.richardfisher.com

"Helpful person" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 9:02:13 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> Old recipe still used today)
>> http://www.celtnet.org.uk/recipes/mi...ad-in-the-hole
>
> I wonder when sausages first started to be
> used or if there were regional differences?

When I was a child it was always sausage, but I have never stuck to that. I
find it can be dry. I use sausage meat, onions and apples

Hey be inventive) Experiment))


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> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:02:13 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Cheryl" > wrote in message
aweb.com...
>>> On 9/3/2014 10:26 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:53:01 PM UTC-4, Travis McGee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was a kid IHOP had "pigs in a blanket" that were pancakes
>>>>> rolled
>>>>> around sausage links. They were great.
>>>>
>>>> In England we have Toad in the Hole. It's
>>>> sausage inside a Yorkshire pudding batter.
>>>> It's really good.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That sounds absolutely decadent.
>>
>>Old recipe still used today)
>>
>>http://www.celtnet.org.uk/recipes/mi...ad-in-the-hole
>
> The only problem here in NA is the sausages, they are not like
> sausages in the UK - used to make Toad for David - would bring the
> sausages back from UK and start straight in cooking it

You could make your own as I do)) I stopped stuffing them into skins a
long time ago, so really, I just make sausage meat



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On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:03:37 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:02:13 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>"Cheryl" > wrote in message
> aweb.com...
> >>> On 9/3/2014 10:26 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:53:01 PM UTC-4, Travis McGee wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When I was a kid IHOP had "pigs in a blanket" that were pancakes
> >>>>> rolled
> >>>>> around sausage links. They were great.
> >>>>
> >>>> In England we have Toad in the Hole. It's
> >>>> sausage inside a Yorkshire pudding batter.
> >>>> It's really good.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> That sounds absolutely decadent.
> >>
> >>Old recipe still used today)
> >>
> >>http://www.celtnet.org.uk/recipes/mi...ad-in-the-hole
> >
> > The only problem here in NA is the sausages, they are not like
> > sausages in the UK - used to make Toad for David - would bring the
> > sausages back from UK and start straight in cooking it
>
> You could make your own as I do)) I stopped stuffing them into skins a
> long time ago, so really, I just make sausage meat

What recipe do you use? I don't need amounts, just general
ingredients.


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:03:37 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:02:13 +0100, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"Cheryl" > wrote in message
>> aweb.com...
>> >>> On 9/3/2014 10:26 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:53:01 PM UTC-4, Travis McGee wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> When I was a kid IHOP had "pigs in a blanket" that were pancakes
>> >>>>> rolled
>> >>>>> around sausage links. They were great.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In England we have Toad in the Hole. It's
>> >>>> sausage inside a Yorkshire pudding batter.
>> >>>> It's really good.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> That sounds absolutely decadent.
>> >>
>> >>Old recipe still used today)
>> >>
>> >>http://www.celtnet.org.uk/recipes/mi...ad-in-the-hole
>> >
>> > The only problem here in NA is the sausages, they are not like
>> > sausages in the UK - used to make Toad for David - would bring the
>> > sausages back from UK and start straight in cooking it
>>
>> You could make your own as I do)) I stopped stuffing them into skins a
>> long time ago, so really, I just make sausage meat
>
> What recipe do you use? I don't need amounts, just general
> ingredients.

Since I don't measure ... I don't have a recipe I just use what I fancy
on the day. I *always* use fatty pork or add fat to lean meat! After that
whatever I like. Onions, garlic, herbs, apples, mushrooms ... I dunno, what
flavours take your fancy? I expect you will like hot peppers, seasonings
etc?

When I try something new, I mince/grind my pork first, then taking a small
amount of the meat, I add a little of what I want to try, and then fry it
up. If I like I will do the same to the rest of the meat.

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> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:02:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Helpful person" > wrote in message
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>>> On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 9:02:13 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Old recipe still used today)
>>>> http://www.celtnet.org.uk/recipes/mi...ad-in-the-hole
>>>
>>> I wonder when sausages first started to be
>>> used or if there were regional differences?
>>
>>When I was a child it was always sausage, but I have never stuck to that.
>>I
>>find it can be dry. I use sausage meat, onions and apples
>>
>>Hey be inventive) Experiment))
>
> I didn't know anything other than sausages were used !

You do now)

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> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:03:37 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 14:02:13 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Cheryl" > wrote in message
traweb.com...
>>>>> On 9/3/2014 10:26 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:53:01 PM UTC-4, Travis McGee wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I was a kid IHOP had "pigs in a blanket" that were pancakes
>>>>>>> rolled
>>>>>>> around sausage links. They were great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In England we have Toad in the Hole. It's
>>>>>> sausage inside a Yorkshire pudding batter.
>>>>>> It's really good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That sounds absolutely decadent.
>>>>
>>>>Old recipe still used today)
>>>>
>>>>http://www.celtnet.org.uk/recipes/mi...ad-in-the-hole
>>>
>>> The only problem here in NA is the sausages, they are not like
>>> sausages in the UK - used to make Toad for David - would bring the
>>> sausages back from UK and start straight in cooking it
>>
>>You could make your own as I do)) I stopped stuffing them into skins a
>>long time ago, so really, I just make sausage meat
>
> I could but don't. David was the sausage person, one in ten years
> will do me I do sometimes make sausage rolls at Xmas but buy
> sausage meat for that and add more bread and some spices. I think
> that is the main difference, UK sausages have more bread in them.

Not mine!

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On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:12:48 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

> Since I don't measure ... I don't have a recipe I just use what I fancy
> on the day. I *always* use fatty pork or add fat to lean meat! After that
> whatever I like. Onions, garlic, herbs, apples, mushrooms ... I dunno, what
> flavours take your fancy? I expect you will like hot peppers, seasonings
> etc?
>
> When I try something new, I mince/grind my pork first, then taking a small
> amount of the meat, I add a little of what I want to try, and then fry it
> up. If I like I will do the same to the rest of the meat.

Thanks. Never thought of adding mushrooms to sausage meat: mushrooms
make everything better.

I made a really nice meatloaf once that was maybe half (by volume to
the naked eye) ground mushrooms, must try that again sometime.... or
make a hamburger (sandwich) that way.


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On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:30:00 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

> > I think
> > that is the main difference, UK sausages have more bread in them.
>
> Not mine!

That's why I didn't like bangers. Too much bread in the filling. I
like what you do much, much better. They're unstuffed gourmet
sausages.

I think I need to borrow my DD's meat grinder (no point in buying one
myself when I can borrow hers)... or will the food processor be fine?



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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:30:00 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>> > I think
>> > that is the main difference, UK sausages have more bread in them.
>>
>> Not mine!
>
> That's why I didn't like bangers. Too much bread in the filling. I
> like what you do much, much better. They're unstuffed gourmet
> sausages.

Yers The big thing is though, that you make them to your own taste.

> I think I need to borrow my DD's meat grinder (no point in buying one
> myself when I can borrow hers)... or will the food processor be fine?

I never use my processor for sausage. I like my meat ground very coarsely.
Don't stint on the fat though. It will cook out and without it, it gets
very dry.



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