On 9/9/2014 4:22 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 16:15:33 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 9/9/2014 4:04 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:28:48 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/9/2014 3:20 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:25:38 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2014 1:52 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:12:34 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I got as far as the part where the guy warned to the effect that if you
>>>>>>>> didn't watch it right away she anti gun fanatics were going to get it
>>>>>>>> pulled.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That video made the rounds years ago and it's still circulating - so
>>>>>>> much for that scare tactic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet it contains verifiable truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would challenge you, go to any mainstream ammo website, pick a
>>>>>> caliber, and see what you get for availability:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/Produ...aspx?catid=494
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14.19
>>>>>> Warehouse 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $29.59
>>>>>> Warehouse 2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't anyone make their own bullets anymore? Dad had a bullet mold
>>>>> and packed his own shells.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That is one of the other big impacts on shooters, lead for reloading.
>>>>
>>>> Was your Dad using an RCBS press or a Lee Loader?
>>>>
>>>> I think reloading is only a small slice of the shooting segment these
>>>> days, but plenty of purists and hunters keep it going.
>>>
>>> How people do you know that reload rimfire shells?
>>>
>> A very, very, very few, and only in now defunct historic European arms
>> and odd calibers.
>>
>> But it can be done, and in some cases must be.
>
> Yes, my point being that nobody reloads .22 or .22 mags, because
> they're rimfire shells.
>
Point is sound.

On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:52:27 -0600, Mayo > wrote:

> On 9/9/2014 3:44 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:28:48 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
> >
> >> Was your Dad using an RCBS press or a Lee Loader?
> >
> > Beats the heck out of me!
>
> RCBS is a larger bench mount unit:
>
> http://media.midwayusa.com/productim...673/673612.jpg

I remember something that looked like the RCBS. He wasn't a hunter -
hunters were banned from the property. However, we had a gun range.


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On 9/9/2014 4:39 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:52:27 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 9/9/2014 3:44 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:28:48 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Was your Dad using an RCBS press or a Lee Loader?
>>>
>>> Beats the heck out of me!
>>
>> RCBS is a larger bench mount unit:
>>
>> http://media.midwayusa.com/productim...673/673612.jpg
>
> I remember something that looked like the RCBS. He wasn't a hunter -
> hunters were banned from the property. However, we had a gun range.
>
>
I'd bet that was what he used, robust, quick, able to turn through a lot
of rounds.

Your own range?

Oh shoot (bad pun), I am jealous!

I have worried and ventilated many a milk carton, old fry pan, and
thousands of cans in my days.

On 2014-09-09 5:20 PM, sf wrote:

>> I would challenge you, go to any mainstream ammo website, pick a
>> caliber, and see what you get for availability:
>>
>> http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/Produ...aspx?catid=494
>>
>> 14.19
>> Warehouse 1
>>
>> $29.59
>> Warehouse 2
>>
>> Out of Stock
>>
>> Out of Stock
>>
>> Out of Stock
>>
>> Out of Stock
>>
>> Out of Stock
>>
>> Out of Stock
>>
>> Out of Stock
>
> Doesn't anyone make their own bullets anymore? Dad had a bullet mold
> and packed his own shells.
>

I was shooting this afternoon. I bought four boxes of 9mm. Rge ammo
shelves were all full and they were in the midst of unloading a truck
loaded with of dozens of cases of 7.62.

On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 16:53:45 -0600, Mayo > wrote:

> On 9/9/2014 4:39 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:52:27 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/9/2014 3:44 PM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:28:48 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Was your Dad using an RCBS press or a Lee Loader?
> >>>
> >>> Beats the heck out of me!
> >>
> >> RCBS is a larger bench mount unit:
> >>
> >> http://media.midwayusa.com/productim...673/673612.jpg
> >
> > I remember something that looked like the RCBS. He wasn't a hunter -
> > hunters were banned from the property. However, we had a gun range.
> >
> >
> I'd bet that was what he used, robust, quick, able to turn through a lot
> of rounds.
>
> Your own range?

Yes, it was fun.
>
> Oh shoot (bad pun), I am jealous!
>
> I have worried and ventilated many a milk carton, old fry pan, and
> thousands of cans in my days.



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On 2014-09-09 6:22 PM, Jeßus wrote:

>
> Yes, my point being that nobody reloads .22 or .22 mags, because
> they're rimfire shells.
>


My son bought a Chinese handgun last year, a copy of a Woodsman in .22.
The manual said that using reloaded ammunition would void the warranty.
In all my years of shooting I have never known anyone to reload .22.

On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 16:37:40 -0600, Mayo > wrote:

> On 9/9/2014 4:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:14:52 -0500, zxcvbob >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I do that. But the lack of .22 rimfire ammo is getting *very* annoying.
> >> I haven't seen any for sale in almost 2 years, and can't reload it.
> >
> > You're kidding? prices here have steadily risen, but there's never
> > been a shortage of .22 ammo here in Aus.
> >
> Uh oh...

Nice job opportunity in the import export business


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On 2014-09-09 6:14 PM, zxcvbob wrote:
> On 9/9/2014 4:20 PM, sf wrote:
>
>> Doesn't anyone make their own bullets anymore? Dad had a bullet mold
>> and packed his own shells.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> I do that. But the lack of .22 rimfire ammo is getting *very* annoying.
> I haven't seen any for sale in almost 2 years, and can't reload it. My
> target pistol and "squirrel gun" are both .22's.

No problem getting .22. A couple months ago I bought a Bucket of
Bullets..... 1400 rounds.

On 9/9/2014 5:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-09-09 6:22 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, my point being that nobody reloads .22 or .22 mags, because
>> they're rimfire shells.
>>
>
>
> My son bought a Chinese handgun last year, a copy of a Woodsman in .22.
> The manual said that using reloaded ammunition would void the warranty.
> In all my years of shooting I have never known anyone to reload .22.
>
>
http://22lrreloader.com/design-details/

Made from 7075-T6 Aluminum, the Sharpshooter 22 Long Rifle Reloading
Tool is stronger than most steel on the market.
Extremely light and compact, it is made to last for generations. This 22
long rifle reloader is a must have survival tool for the ultimate in
preparedness.
If you are looking for an affordable option for bulk 22LR at a
reasonable price – $8 to $15 dollar per brick, this is the reloader for you.
Whether you’re simply looking for a way to beat inflation, supply and
demand, or for enhancing your survival capabilities in an emergency, our
22 rimfire reloader is your answer.

On 9/9/2014 5:02 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 16:37:40 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 9/9/2014 4:21 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:14:52 -0500, zxcvbob >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do that. But the lack of .22 rimfire ammo is getting *very* annoying.
>>>> I haven't seen any for sale in almost 2 years, and can't reload it.
>>>
>>> You're kidding? prices here have steadily risen, but there's never
>>> been a shortage of .22 ammo here in Aus.
>>>
>> Uh oh...
>
> Nice job opportunity in the import export business
>
>
I can only imagine the hoops to be jumped through!

On 9/9/2014 5:02 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-09-09 6:14 PM, zxcvbob wrote:
>> On 9/9/2014 4:20 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't anyone make their own bullets anymore? Dad had a bullet mold
>>> and packed his own shells.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I do that. But the lack of .22 rimfire ammo is getting *very* annoying.
>> I haven't seen any for sale in almost 2 years, and can't reload it. My
>> target pistol and "squirrel gun" are both .22's.
>
> No problem getting .22. A couple months ago I bought a Bucket of
> Bullets..... 1400 rounds.
>

What?

So it's just the US?

Damn.

On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:04:03 -0600, Mayo > wrote:

>http://22lrreloader.com/design-details/
>
>Made from 7075-T6 Aluminum, the Sharpshooter 22 Long Rifle Reloading
>Tool is stronger than most steel on the market.
>Extremely light and compact, it is made to last for generations. This 22
>long rifle reloader is a must have survival tool for the ultimate in
>preparedness.
>If you are looking for an affordable option for bulk 22LR at a
>reasonable price – $8 to $15 dollar per brick, this is the reloader for you.
>Whether you’re simply looking for a way to beat inflation, supply and
>demand, or for enhancing your survival capabilities in an emergency, our
>22 rimfire reloader is your answer.

Now that is interesting. I do wonder about all the crap I might have
to go through to import one though. I also wonder how accurate these
reloaded bullets might be (I did see the accuracy link). Pity they
don't do .22 mag. The price seems a bit high though.

On 9/9/2014 5:19 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:04:03 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> http://22lrreloader.com/design-details/
>>
>> Made from 7075-T6 Aluminum, the Sharpshooter 22 Long Rifle Reloading
>> Tool is stronger than most steel on the market.
>> Extremely light and compact, it is made to last for generations. This 22
>> long rifle reloader is a must have survival tool for the ultimate in
>> preparedness.
>> If you are looking for an affordable option for bulk 22LR at a
>> reasonable price – $8 to $15 dollar per brick, this is the reloader for you.
>> Whether you’re simply looking for a way to beat inflation, supply and
>> demand, or for enhancing your survival capabilities in an emergency, our
>> 22 rimfire reloader is your answer.
>
> Now that is interesting. I do wonder about all the crap I might have
> to go through to import one though. I also wonder how accurate these
> reloaded bullets might be (I did see the accuracy link). Pity they
> don't do .22 mag. The price seems a bit high though.
>
It's specialist stuff for sure.

I'm not conversant with your import laws, so I'll not comment.

We both like those .22 mags, and I have heard that a .25 caliber case
holder and the proper die would suffice.

Might be you could modify that other one?

Worth thinking about.

If I bump into a full blown kit, I'll post it.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:25:38 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>
>> On 9/9/2014 1:52 PM, sf wrote:
>> > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:12:34 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I got as far as the part where the guy warned to the effect that if
>> >> you
>> >> didn't watch it right away she anti gun fanatics were going to get it
>> >> pulled.
>> >
>> > That video made the rounds years ago and it's still circulating - so
>> > much for that scare tactic.
>> >
>> >
>> Yet it contains verifiable truth.
>>
>> I would challenge you, go to any mainstream ammo website, pick a
>> caliber, and see what you get for availability:
>>
>> http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/Produ...aspx?catid=494
>>
>> 14.19
>> Warehouse 1
>>
>> $29.59
>> Warehouse 2
>>
>> Out of Stock
>>
>> Out of Stock
>>
>> Out of Stock
>>
>> Out of Stock
>>
>> Out of Stock
>>
>> Out of Stock
>>
>> Out of Stock
>
> Doesn't anyone make their own bullets anymore? Dad had a bullet mold
> and packed his own shells.

Nobody I know. My dad was a gun collector, and when our house burned down it
sounded like a war zone with all that ammo going off. My siblings and I were
up on a hill hiding behind large boulders. LOL

Cheri

On 9/9/2014 5:59 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:25:38 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/9/2014 1:52 PM, sf wrote:
>>> > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:12:34 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I got as far as the part where the guy warned to the effect that
>>> if >> you
>>> >> didn't watch it right away she anti gun fanatics were going to get it
>>> >> pulled.
>>> >
>>> > That video made the rounds years ago and it's still circulating - so
>>> > much for that scare tactic.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> Yet it contains verifiable truth.
>>>
>>> I would challenge you, go to any mainstream ammo website, pick a
>>> caliber, and see what you get for availability:
>>>
>>> http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/Produ...aspx?catid=494
>>>
>>> 14.19
>>> Warehouse 1
>>>
>>> $29.59
>>> Warehouse 2
>>>
>>> Out of Stock
>>>
>>> Out of Stock
>>>
>>> Out of Stock
>>>
>>> Out of Stock
>>>
>>> Out of Stock
>>>
>>> Out of Stock
>>>
>>> Out of Stock
>>
>> Doesn't anyone make their own bullets anymore? Dad had a bullet mold
>> and packed his own shells.
>
> Nobody I know. My dad was a gun collector, and when our house burned
> down it sounded like a war zone with all that ammo going off. My
> siblings and I were up on a hill hiding behind large boulders. LOL
>
> Cheri

Uh oh...did he not have it stored in GI ammo cans?

Terrible memory, seeing your home burn

:-(

"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 9/9/2014 5:59 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:25:38 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/9/2014 1:52 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:12:34 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I got as far as the part where the guy warned to the effect that
>>>> if >> you
>>>> >> didn't watch it right away she anti gun fanatics were going to get
>>>> >> it
>>>> >> pulled.
>>>> >
>>>> > That video made the rounds years ago and it's still circulating - so
>>>> > much for that scare tactic.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> Yet it contains verifiable truth.
>>>>
>>>> I would challenge you, go to any mainstream ammo website, pick a
>>>> caliber, and see what you get for availability:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/Produ...aspx?catid=494
>>>>
>>>> 14.19
>>>> Warehouse 1
>>>>
>>>> $29.59
>>>> Warehouse 2
>>>>
>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>
>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>
>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>
>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>
>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>
>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>
>>>> Out of Stock
>>>
>>> Doesn't anyone make their own bullets anymore? Dad had a bullet mold
>>> and packed his own shells.
>>
>> Nobody I know. My dad was a gun collector, and when our house burned
>> down it sounded like a war zone with all that ammo going off. My
>> siblings and I were up on a hill hiding behind large boulders. LOL
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Uh oh...did he not have it stored in GI ammo cans?
>
> Terrible memory, seeing your home burn
>
> :-(

Yeah, it was awful and it was just a few days before Christmas, but everyone
in that country community pitched in and found us a place to stay, provided
us with clothes etc. so it made it a lot easier.

Cheri

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...

> It will detonate but since they aren't in a barrel, they aren't going
> anywhere. Scary stuff though, especially when you are watching your house
> burn down

Especially when you're a kid. :-)

Cheri

On 9/10/2014 5:20 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>> On 9/9/2014 5:59 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:25:38 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/9/2014 1:52 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>> > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:12:34 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> I got as far as the part where the guy warned to the effect that
>>>>> if >> you
>>>>> >> didn't watch it right away she anti gun fanatics were going to
>>>>> get >> it
>>>>> >> pulled.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That video made the rounds years ago and it's still circulating - so
>>>>> > much for that scare tactic.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> Yet it contains verifiable truth.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would challenge you, go to any mainstream ammo website, pick a
>>>>> caliber, and see what you get for availability:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/Produ...aspx?catid=494
>>>>>
>>>>> 14.19
>>>>> Warehouse 1
>>>>>
>>>>> $29.59
>>>>> Warehouse 2
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't anyone make their own bullets anymore? Dad had a bullet mold
>>>> and packed his own shells.
>>>
>>> Nobody I know. My dad was a gun collector, and when our house burned
>>> down it sounded like a war zone with all that ammo going off. My
>>> siblings and I were up on a hill hiding behind large boulders. LOL
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Uh oh...did he not have it stored in GI ammo cans?
>>
>> Terrible memory, seeing your home burn
>>
>> :-(
>
> Yeah, it was awful and it was just a few days before Christmas, but
> everyone in that country community pitched in and found us a place to
> stay, provided us with clothes etc. so it made it a lot easier.
>
> Cheri


We had a similar tragedy with a neighbor some years back, held a
fundraiser, got bikes for the kids, a neighbor had a garage apartment to
lend, things worked themselves out. It is nice when folks come together
and I bet it really made you feel comforted.

On 9/10/2014 5:21 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> It will detonate but since they aren't in a barrel, they aren't going
>> anywhere. Scary stuff though, especially when you are watching your
>> house
>> burn down
>
> Especially when you're a kid. :-)
>
> Cheri

That's the worst part of all, a child has no context for such events.

"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 9/10/2014 5:20 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>> On 9/9/2014 5:59 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:25:38 -0600, Mayo > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2014 1:52 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>>> > On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:12:34 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> I got as far as the part where the guy warned to the effect that
>>>>>> if >> you
>>>>>> >> didn't watch it right away she anti gun fanatics were going to
>>>>>> get >> it
>>>>>> >> pulled.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > That video made the rounds years ago and it's still circulating -
>>>>>> > so
>>>>>> > much for that scare tactic.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Yet it contains verifiable truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would challenge you, go to any mainstream ammo website, pick a
>>>>>> caliber, and see what you get for availability:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/Produ...aspx?catid=494
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14.19
>>>>>> Warehouse 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $29.59
>>>>>> Warehouse 2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of Stock
>>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't anyone make their own bullets anymore? Dad had a bullet mold
>>>>> and packed his own shells.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody I know. My dad was a gun collector, and when our house burned
>>>> down it sounded like a war zone with all that ammo going off. My
>>>> siblings and I were up on a hill hiding behind large boulders. LOL
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Uh oh...did he not have it stored in GI ammo cans?
>>>
>>> Terrible memory, seeing your home burn
>>>
>>> :-(
>>
>> Yeah, it was awful and it was just a few days before Christmas, but
>> everyone in that country community pitched in and found us a place to
>> stay, provided us with clothes etc. so it made it a lot easier.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>
> We had a similar tragedy with a neighbor some years back, held a
> fundraiser, got bikes for the kids, a neighbor had a garage apartment to
> lend, things worked themselves out. It is nice when folks come together
> and I bet it really made you feel comforted.

it did, and it is nice when folks come together to help.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> It will detonate but since they aren't in a barrel, they aren't going
>> anywhere. Scary stuff though, especially when you are watching your
>> house
>> burn down
>
> Especially when you're a kid. :-)

Especially!!!

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On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:27:24 PM UTC-4, Paul M. Cook wrote:

>What use does it have other than killing as many people as quickly >as possible?

My husband has a rifle similar to an AR-15. He uses it for target shooting. It's lightweight, so he doesn't get tired while shooting
(which makes him inaccurate). It's a long walk from the parking
area to the range in the state park where he goes to shoot, so
it's a winner on those grounds, too. Although he generally finds
the indoor pistol range sufficient, he does like to really stretch
his skills and use a rifle from time to time.

There's no practical definition of "assault rifle" or "assault-style
rifle". Most people start mumbling and saying stuff that boils down
to "It looks scary". If people used "automatic" and "semi-automatic"
correctly, it would be easy to explain that automatic weapons are
rare in the U.S., and somewhat expensive to legally obtain. And
that criminals are inexplicably indifferent to what is legal.

Of course, if we won the lottery, DH would buy a Thompson.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2014-09-11 10:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> There's no practical definition of "assault rifle" or "assault-style
> rifle". Most people start mumbling and saying stuff that boils down
> to "It looks scary". If people used "automatic" and "semi-automatic"
> correctly, it would be easy to explain that automatic weapons are
> rare in the U.S., and somewhat expensive to legally obtain. And
> that criminals are inexplicably indifferent to what is legal.

It is funny how some people get all carried away out of their own
ignorance. Firearms design has changed a lot over the last decade.
There are a lot of military looking guns available that are not military
by any stretch of the imagination.

>
> Of course, if we won the lottery, DH would buy a Thompson.
>
I don't think they are prohibitively expensive to buy, but you'd have to
win the lottery to be able to afford the ammunition. When I bought a new
handgun last year I was impressed with a particular model of .45. My
nephew works in the guns shop and he talked me out of it, pointing to
the cost of the ammunition. It is almost twice as expensive as 9mm.

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:27:24 PM UTC-4, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>>What use does it have other than killing as many people as quickly >as
>>possible?
>
> My husband has a rifle similar to an AR-15. He uses it for target
> shooting. It's lightweight, so he doesn't get tired while shooting
> (which makes him inaccurate). It's a long walk from the parking
> area to the range in the state park where he goes to shoot, so
> it's a winner on those grounds, too. Although he generally finds
> the indoor pistol range sufficient, he does like to really stretch
> his skills and use a rifle from time to time.
>
> There's no practical definition of "assault rifle" or "assault-style
> rifle". Most people start mumbling and saying stuff that boils down
> to "It looks scary". If people used "automatic" and "semi-automatic"
> correctly, it would be easy to explain that automatic weapons are
> rare in the U.S., and somewhat expensive to legally obtain. And
> that criminals are inexplicably indifferent to what is legal.
>
> Of course, if we won the lottery, DH would buy a Thompson.


If you were a suicidal mass murderer which would you choose? A bolt action
rifle with a clip or a AR15? Also, there are kits to make those weapons
full auto. They are illegal mostly but the plans are not and can be found
on the Internet and any machinist can make them.




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On 9/11/2014 10:24 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:27:24 PM UTC-4, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>
>>> What use does it have other than killing as many people as quickly >as
>>> possible?
>>
>> My husband has a rifle similar to an AR-15. He uses it for target
>> shooting. It's lightweight, so he doesn't get tired while shooting
>> (which makes him inaccurate). It's a long walk from the parking
>> area to the range in the state park where he goes to shoot, so
>> it's a winner on those grounds, too. Although he generally finds
>> the indoor pistol range sufficient, he does like to really stretch
>> his skills and use a rifle from time to time.
>>
>> There's no practical definition of "assault rifle" or "assault-style
>> rifle". Most people start mumbling and saying stuff that boils down
>> to "It looks scary". If people used "automatic" and "semi-automatic"
>> correctly, it would be easy to explain that automatic weapons are
>> rare in the U.S., and somewhat expensive to legally obtain. And
>> that criminals are inexplicably indifferent to what is legal.
>>
>> Of course, if we won the lottery, DH would buy a Thompson.
>
>
> If you were a suicidal mass murderer which would you choose? A bolt action
> rifle with a clip or a AR15?

Hinckley chose a .22 revolver - rather old school.

> Also, there are kits to make those weapons
> full auto.

So?

> They are illegal mostly but the plans are not and can be found
> on the Internet and any machinist can make them.

Making him or her self accessory to murder and a firearms felon.

Not buying it - nor have you a single instance of where a full auto
weapon was made and used in a public shooting.

"Mayo" > wrote in message ...

>> I don't know what 'fender flare or lift kits' are.
>
> These:
>
> http://www.autoaccessoriesgarage.com.../3105_1_lg.jpg
>
> http://www.carid.com/images/readylif...ms/49-2005.jpg

Okay but they are not something I have or have seen.


> Basically looks are subjective, but indeed there is a demographic that
> likes to own a sporting weapon with a military look to it.
>
> For example, a bone stock Ruger Mini 14 ranch rifle:
>
> http://www.keepshooting.com/media/ca...i-14-rifle.jpg
>
> And a customized one:
>
> http://sniperready.com/96-381-thickb...nd-package.jpg
>
> I would actually prefer the latter for utility - the pistol grip aids in
> control, the adjustable stock lends comfort to varying shooters, and the
> scope speaks for itself.
>
> Yet is does have a military feel about it regardless.
>
> I really make it the same as those who customize their 4X4 vehicles to
> look like competition trucks, then rarely use them for said purpose.
>
> http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...a4399b5459.jpg
>
> You can do a lot of things in a truck with a lift kit other than standard
> driving.
>
> What many of these folks miss is that a very long wheelbase vehicle is
> rarely as useful in true off road applications as one of shorter
> dimensions and less overhang:
>
> http://offex.pl/images/detailed/3/Cl...298cec2752.jpg
>
> In almost all instances a modified Jeep will handily outperform a large
> truck, but either one can be owned by a poseur looking for attention as
> opposed to performance.
>
> Perhaps you have similar scenarios amongst Landy owners?
>
> There are those who are fine with a standard Range Rover, and others who
> have to have a Defender?
>
> http://www.landrover.com/Images/GWS_...70x385.jpg?v=3
>
> http://www.landrover.com/Images/L316...70x385.jpg?v=2

Fair enough, it is just that 'going over the top' with such things, isn't my
way. Whatever floats your boat as they say!

--
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On 9/11/2014 12:39 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>
>>> I don't know what 'fender flare or lift kits' are.
>>
>> These:
>>
>> http://www.autoaccessoriesgarage.com.../3105_1_lg.jpg
>>
>> http://www.carid.com/images/readylif...ms/49-2005.jpg
>
> Okay but they are not something I have or have seen.

I had a feeling this was much more of an American phenomenon.


>> Basically looks are subjective, but indeed there is a demographic that
>> likes to own a sporting weapon with a military look to it.
>>
>> For example, a bone stock Ruger Mini 14 ranch rifle:
>>
>> http://www.keepshooting.com/media/ca...i-14-rifle.jpg
>>
>>
>> And a customized one:
>>
>> http://sniperready.com/96-381-thickb...nd-package.jpg
>>
>>
>> I would actually prefer the latter for utility - the pistol grip aids
>> in control, the adjustable stock lends comfort to varying shooters,
>> and the scope speaks for itself.
>>
>> Yet is does have a military feel about it regardless.
>>
>> I really make it the same as those who customize their 4X4 vehicles to
>> look like competition trucks, then rarely use them for said purpose.
>>
>> http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...a4399b5459.jpg
>>
>>
>> You can do a lot of things in a truck with a lift kit other than
>> standard driving.
>>
>> What many of these folks miss is that a very long wheelbase vehicle is
>> rarely as useful in true off road applications as one of shorter
>> dimensions and less overhang:
>>
>> http://offex.pl/images/detailed/3/Cl...298cec2752.jpg
>>
>>
>> In almost all instances a modified Jeep will handily outperform a
>> large truck, but either one can be owned by a poseur looking for
>> attention as opposed to performance.
>>
>> Perhaps you have similar scenarios amongst Landy owners?
>>
>> There are those who are fine with a standard Range Rover, and others
>> who have to have a Defender?
>>
>> http://www.landrover.com/Images/GWS_...70x385.jpg?v=3
>>
>>
>> http://www.landrover.com/Images/L316...70x385.jpg?v=2
>>
>
> Fair enough, it is just that 'going over the top' with such things,
> isn't my way. Whatever floats your boat as they say!

I'm with you on that one, lifted 4X4s are terrible in regular highway
driving and marginal about town.

But honestly, I think that "over the top" thing is some mutant part of
our psychology here.

That said, the other place that is nuts for lifted and built up off road
vehicle is...wait for it...Iceland!

Who knew?

On 9/11/14, 1:38 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Noooo I was referring to people who tarted them up to look like something
> much more fearsome than they actually are....

People and even manufacturers have been doing that forever.

My first owned weapon -- earned by selling christmas cards when I was
13, so 1959 -- was a bolt-action Mossberg .22 rifle that for some
inexplicable reason came with a six-inch-long folding-down plastic
forestock that was too flimsy to be of any use whatsoever. I still have
it, too...

-- Larry

"pltrgyst" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/11/14, 1:38 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> Noooo I was referring to people who tarted them up to look like something
>> much more fearsome than they actually are....
>
> People and even manufacturers have been doing that forever.
>
> My first owned weapon -- earned by selling christmas cards when I was 13,
> so 1959 -- was a bolt-action Mossberg .22 rifle that for some inexplicable
> reason came with a six-inch-long folding-down plastic forestock that was
> too flimsy to be of any use whatsoever. I still have it, too...

I guess I bet it looked pretty though) My .410 is VERY pretty but not
fancied up)

Here she is:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Yi...g&ved=0CCMQsAQ

Look at that sideplate) and the stock is gorgeous She doesn't need to
be dressed up)


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On 9/11/2014 2:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "pltrgyst" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/11/14, 1:38 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> Noooo I was referring to people who tarted them up to look like
>>> something
>>> much more fearsome than they actually are....
>>
>> People and even manufacturers have been doing that forever.
>>
>> My first owned weapon -- earned by selling christmas cards when I was
>> 13, so 1959 -- was a bolt-action Mossberg .22 rifle that for some
>> inexplicable reason came with a six-inch-long folding-down plastic
>> forestock that was too flimsy to be of any use whatsoever. I still
>> have it, too...
>
> I guess I bet it looked pretty though) My .410 is VERY pretty but
> not fancied up)
>
> Here she is:
>
> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Yi...g&ved=0CCMQsAQ
>
>
> Look at that sideplate) and the stock is gorgeous She doesn't need
> to be dressed up)
>
>
Cor, now that's a beauty!

"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 9/11/2014 12:39 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>
>>>> I don't know what 'fender flare or lift kits' are.
>>>
>>> These:
>>>
>>> http://www.autoaccessoriesgarage.com.../3105_1_lg.jpg
>>>
>>> http://www.carid.com/images/readylif...ms/49-2005.jpg
>>
>> Okay but they are not something I have or have seen.
>
> I had a feeling this was much more of an American phenomenon.
>
>
>>> Basically looks are subjective, but indeed there is a demographic that
>>> likes to own a sporting weapon with a military look to it.
>>>
>>> For example, a bone stock Ruger Mini 14 ranch rifle:
>>>
>>> http://www.keepshooting.com/media/ca...i-14-rifle.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> And a customized one:
>>>
>>> http://sniperready.com/96-381-thickb...nd-package.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> I would actually prefer the latter for utility - the pistol grip aids
>>> in control, the adjustable stock lends comfort to varying shooters,
>>> and the scope speaks for itself.
>>>
>>> Yet is does have a military feel about it regardless.
>>>
>>> I really make it the same as those who customize their 4X4 vehicles to
>>> look like competition trucks, then rarely use them for said purpose.
>>>
>>> http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...a4399b5459.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> You can do a lot of things in a truck with a lift kit other than
>>> standard driving.
>>>
>>> What many of these folks miss is that a very long wheelbase vehicle is
>>> rarely as useful in true off road applications as one of shorter
>>> dimensions and less overhang:
>>>
>>> http://offex.pl/images/detailed/3/Cl...298cec2752.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> In almost all instances a modified Jeep will handily outperform a
>>> large truck, but either one can be owned by a poseur looking for
>>> attention as opposed to performance.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you have similar scenarios amongst Landy owners?
>>>
>>> There are those who are fine with a standard Range Rover, and others
>>> who have to have a Defender?
>>>
>>> http://www.landrover.com/Images/GWS_...70x385.jpg?v=3
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.landrover.com/Images/L316...70x385.jpg?v=2
>>>
>>
>> Fair enough, it is just that 'going over the top' with such things,
>> isn't my way. Whatever floats your boat as they say!
>
> I'm with you on that one, lifted 4X4s are terrible in regular highway
> driving and marginal about town.
>
> But honestly, I think that "over the top" thing is some mutant part of our
> psychology here.
> That said, the other place that is nuts for lifted and built up off road
> vehicle is...wait for it...Iceland!
>
> Who knew?

just talking about it to DH and we remember seeing a 4x4 down in England,
where it was really high and had huge wheels on it, much higher than the
usual high stuff used for off roading. It looked ridiculous, and I am
surprised it was allowed on the road. I can't begin to think what it might
be used for.
Goodness only knows how they got up into it. So perhaps the US isn't so
crazy after all



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"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 9/11/2014 2:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "pltrgyst" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 9/11/14, 1:38 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Noooo I was referring to people who tarted them up to look like
>>>> something
>>>> much more fearsome than they actually are....
>>>
>>> People and even manufacturers have been doing that forever.
>>>
>>> My first owned weapon -- earned by selling christmas cards when I was
>>> 13, so 1959 -- was a bolt-action Mossberg .22 rifle that for some
>>> inexplicable reason came with a six-inch-long folding-down plastic
>>> forestock that was too flimsy to be of any use whatsoever. I still
>>> have it, too...
>>
>> I guess I bet it looked pretty though) My .410 is VERY pretty but
>> not fancied up)
>>
>> Here she is:
>>
>> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Yi...g&ved=0CCMQsAQ
>>
>>
>> Look at that sideplate) and the stock is gorgeous She doesn't need
>> to be dressed up)
>>
>>
> Cor, now that's a beauty!

Yes Hubby has bigger ones but a) they are too heavy for me and b) they
aren't nearly so pretty)

--
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On 9/12/2014 3:12 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>> On 9/11/2014 12:39 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>>> I don't know what 'fender flare or lift kits' are.
>>>>
>>>> These:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.autoaccessoriesgarage.com.../3105_1_lg.jpg
>>>>
>>>> http://www.carid.com/images/readylif...ms/49-2005.jpg
>>>
>>> Okay but they are not something I have or have seen.
>>
>> I had a feeling this was much more of an American phenomenon.
>>
>>
>>>> Basically looks are subjective, but indeed there is a demographic that
>>>> likes to own a sporting weapon with a military look to it.
>>>>
>>>> For example, a bone stock Ruger Mini 14 ranch rifle:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.keepshooting.com/media/ca...i-14-rifle.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And a customized one:
>>>>
>>>> http://sniperready.com/96-381-thickb...nd-package.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would actually prefer the latter for utility - the pistol grip aids
>>>> in control, the adjustable stock lends comfort to varying shooters,
>>>> and the scope speaks for itself.
>>>>
>>>> Yet is does have a military feel about it regardless.
>>>>
>>>> I really make it the same as those who customize their 4X4 vehicles to
>>>> look like competition trucks, then rarely use them for said purpose.
>>>>
>>>> http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...a4399b5459.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can do a lot of things in a truck with a lift kit other than
>>>> standard driving.
>>>>
>>>> What many of these folks miss is that a very long wheelbase vehicle is
>>>> rarely as useful in true off road applications as one of shorter
>>>> dimensions and less overhang:
>>>>
>>>> http://offex.pl/images/detailed/3/Cl...298cec2752.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In almost all instances a modified Jeep will handily outperform a
>>>> large truck, but either one can be owned by a poseur looking for
>>>> attention as opposed to performance.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you have similar scenarios amongst Landy owners?
>>>>
>>>> There are those who are fine with a standard Range Rover, and others
>>>> who have to have a Defender?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.landrover.com/Images/GWS_...70x385.jpg?v=3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.landrover.com/Images/L316...70x385.jpg?v=2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fair enough, it is just that 'going over the top' with such things,
>>> isn't my way. Whatever floats your boat as they say!
>>
>> I'm with you on that one, lifted 4X4s are terrible in regular highway
>> driving and marginal about town.
>>
>> But honestly, I think that "over the top" thing is some mutant part of
>> our
>> psychology here.
> > That said, the other place that is nuts for lifted and built up off road
>> vehicle is...wait for it...Iceland!
>>
>> Who knew?
>
> just talking about it to DH and we remember seeing a 4x4 down in England,
> where it was really high and had huge wheels on it, much higher than the
> usual high stuff used for off roading. It looked ridiculous, and I am
> surprised it was allowed on the road. I can't begin to think what it might
> be used for.
> Goodness only knows how they got up into it. So perhaps the US isn't so
> crazy after all
>
>
>
Well, we're "unique" anyway...I'll also wager you don;t have monster
truck shows where even bigger versions of these things (tractor tire
equipped) blast around crushing old cars.

Yes, it's a regular event here.

On 9/12/2014 3:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>> On 9/11/2014 2:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "pltrgyst" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 9/11/14, 1:38 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Noooo I was referring to people who tarted them up to look like
>>>>> something
>>>>> much more fearsome than they actually are....
>>>>
>>>> People and even manufacturers have been doing that forever.
>>>>
>>>> My first owned weapon -- earned by selling christmas cards when I was
>>>> 13, so 1959 -- was a bolt-action Mossberg .22 rifle that for some
>>>> inexplicable reason came with a six-inch-long folding-down plastic
>>>> forestock that was too flimsy to be of any use whatsoever. I still
>>>> have it, too...
>>>
>>> I guess I bet it looked pretty though) My .410 is VERY pretty but
>>> not fancied up)
>>>
>>> Here she is:
>>>
>>> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Yi...g&ved=0CCMQsAQ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Look at that sideplate) and the stock is gorgeous She doesn't need
>>> to be dressed up)
>>>
>>>
>> Cor, now that's a beauty!
>
> Yes Hubby has bigger ones but a) they are too heavy for me and b) they
> aren't nearly so pretty)
>
I bet she shoulders and tracks wonderfully!

"Mayo" > wrote in message ...

>> just talking about it to DH and we remember seeing a 4x4 down in England,
>> where it was really high and had huge wheels on it, much higher than the
>> usual high stuff used for off roading. It looked ridiculous, and I am
>> surprised it was allowed on the road. I can't begin to think what it
>> might
>> be used for.
>> Goodness only knows how they got up into it. So perhaps the US isn't so
>> crazy after all
>>
>>
>>
> Well, we're "unique" anyway...I'll also wager you don;t have monster truck
> shows where even bigger versions of these things (tractor tire equipped)
> blast around crushing old cars.
>
> Yes, it's a regular event here.

Not that I know of <g>

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"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 9/12/2014 3:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>> On 9/11/2014 2:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "pltrgyst" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 9/11/14, 1:38 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Noooo I was referring to people who tarted them up to look like
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> much more fearsome than they actually are....
>>>>>
>>>>> People and even manufacturers have been doing that forever.
>>>>>
>>>>> My first owned weapon -- earned by selling christmas cards when I was
>>>>> 13, so 1959 -- was a bolt-action Mossberg .22 rifle that for some
>>>>> inexplicable reason came with a six-inch-long folding-down plastic
>>>>> forestock that was too flimsy to be of any use whatsoever. I still
>>>>> have it, too...
>>>>
>>>> I guess I bet it looked pretty though) My .410 is VERY pretty but
>>>> not fancied up)
>>>>
>>>> Here she is:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Yi...g&ved=0CCMQsAQ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look at that sideplate) and the stock is gorgeous She doesn't need
>>>> to be dressed up)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Cor, now that's a beauty!
>>
>> Yes Hubby has bigger ones but a) they are too heavy for me and b) they
>> aren't nearly so pretty)
>>
> I bet she shoulders and tracks wonderfully!

Wonderfully! Points more naturally than anything I've tried.

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On 9/12/2014 11:59 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>
>>> just talking about it to DH and we remember seeing a 4x4 down in
>>> England,
>>> where it was really high and had huge wheels on it, much higher than the
>>> usual high stuff used for off roading. It looked ridiculous, and I am
>>> surprised it was allowed on the road. I can't begin to think what it
>>> might
>>> be used for.
>>> Goodness only knows how they got up into it. So perhaps the US isn't so
>>> crazy after all
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Well, we're "unique" anyway...I'll also wager you don;t have monster
>> truck shows where even bigger versions of these things (tractor tire
>> equipped) blast around crushing old cars.
>>
>> Yes, it's a regular event here.
>
> Not that I know of <g>
>
It is wrong on so many levels...

On 9/12/2014 12:00 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>> On 9/12/2014 3:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>>> On 9/11/2014 2:03 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "pltrgyst" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 9/11/14, 1:38 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Noooo I was referring to people who tarted them up to look like
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> much more fearsome than they actually are....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People and even manufacturers have been doing that forever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My first owned weapon -- earned by selling christmas cards when I was
>>>>>> 13, so 1959 -- was a bolt-action Mossberg .22 rifle that for some
>>>>>> inexplicable reason came with a six-inch-long folding-down plastic
>>>>>> forestock that was too flimsy to be of any use whatsoever. I still
>>>>>> have it, too...
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I bet it looked pretty though) My .410 is VERY pretty but
>>>>> not fancied up)
>>>>>
>>>>> Here she is:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Yi...g&ved=0CCMQsAQ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Look at that sideplate) and the stock is gorgeous She doesn't
>>>>> need
>>>>> to be dressed up)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Cor, now that's a beauty!
>>>
>>> Yes Hubby has bigger ones but a) they are too heavy for me and b)
>>> they
>>> aren't nearly so pretty)
>>>
>> I bet she shoulders and tracks wonderfully!
>
> Wonderfully! Points more naturally than anything I've tried.
>
It shows, it shows...

"Mayo" > wrote in message ...
> On 9/12/2014 11:59 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>
>>>> just talking about it to DH and we remember seeing a 4x4 down in
>>>> England,
>>>> where it was really high and had huge wheels on it, much higher than
>>>> the
>>>> usual high stuff used for off roading. It looked ridiculous, and I am
>>>> surprised it was allowed on the road. I can't begin to think what it
>>>> might
>>>> be used for.
>>>> Goodness only knows how they got up into it. So perhaps the US isn't
>>>> so
>>>> crazy after all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well, we're "unique" anyway...I'll also wager you don;t have monster
>>> truck shows where even bigger versions of these things (tractor tire
>>> equipped) blast around crushing old cars.
>>>
>>> Yes, it's a regular event here.
>>
>> Not that I know of <g>
>>
> It is wrong on so many levels...

<g> That one I mentioned must have had tractor tyres. They were huge! It
looked ridiculous perched on top.

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On 9/13/2014 2:42 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>> On 9/12/2014 11:59 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mayo" > wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>>> just talking about it to DH and we remember seeing a 4x4 down in
>>>>> England,
>>>>> where it was really high and had huge wheels on it, much higher than
>>>>> the
>>>>> usual high stuff used for off roading. It looked ridiculous, and I am
>>>>> surprised it was allowed on the road. I can't begin to think what it
>>>>> might
>>>>> be used for.
>>>>> Goodness only knows how they got up into it. So perhaps the US isn't
>>>>> so
>>>>> crazy after all
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Well, we're "unique" anyway...I'll also wager you don;t have monster
>>>> truck shows where even bigger versions of these things (tractor tire
>>>> equipped) blast around crushing old cars.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it's a regular event here.
>>>
>>> Not that I know of <g>
>>>
>> It is wrong on so many levels...
>
> <g> That one I mentioned must have had tractor tyres. They were
> huge! It
> looked ridiculous perched on top.
>
I can only imagine!