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On 9/18/2014 4:42 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:59:26 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> > wrote:
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>> I know. The same thing came up a couple of days ago and it was
>> pointed out to Julie that was she was talking about with steaks was
>> grilling not BBQ.
>> non sequitur: In Wisconsin, when I was a child, grilling was called
>> 'having a fry out.' Burgers and brats.

>
> We called it barbecue in Michigan, but it was also a cookout.
> Barbecue at my house meant we were doing it indoors (there was a BBQ
> grill next to the fireplace that was fired by coals from the real wood
> fire in the winter. Summers meant we cooked outdoors (aka: cookout)
> on a BBQ from the '30s. It was only steaks and burgers, never any
> kind of pork - hot dogs were cooked to perfection at the end of a hot
> dog fork. Our property had been a resort in another lifetime, so
> there was more than one barbecue and they were very close to, if not
> exactly like this one.
> http://artsandcraftshomes.com/wp-con...e_KenDruse.jpg
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>

Looks like a giant stone armchair!
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> "Pete C." wrote:
> >sf wrote:


> >>
> >> It seems like the West is so parched, it's starting to blow away and
> >> the East is drowning.

> >
> >Yes, but the middle had the dust bowl...

>
> Was dusty today... I brush hogged my wildflower flower meadow... 4
> acres of 6' growth took five hours:
> http://i58.tinypic.com/2guvzx2.jpg
> Harvested another cabbage:
> http://i59.tinypic.com/6yz5tw.jpg


It's definitely enjoyable tooling around the field on the tractor.
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> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:07:48 -0500, "Pete C." >
> wrote:
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>>
>> sf wrote:
>> >
>> > On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:26:36 -0600, Janet Bostwick
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 09:05:31 -0700, sf > wrote:
>> > > snip
>> > > >
>> > > >We don't call it CARB. We call it the Air Climate Control Board.
>> > > >Only people who don't live in California are stupid enough to call
>> > > >it
>> > > >CARB, mainly so they can ignore the purpose it serves.
>> > >
>> > > I don't care what it is called.. California could you please keep the
>> > > smoke from your fires within your state? At 9:30 the morning we had
>> > > to drive with lights on. You could be forgiven for thinking it was
>> > > dusk. It was dark outside. The sky didn't lift at all until maybe
>> > > 2. We still are unable to see our foothills. The air smells as
>> > > though the fire is in our neighborhood. 'Nuff bitchin. How are you
>> > > California guys doing what with the fires and drought?
>> > > Janet US
>> >
>> > I understand, we need rain BADLY.
>> >
>> > Our visit to the Grand Canyon was ruined by smoke from fires there and
>> > smoke from fires in Washington state ruined a car trip to the sights
>> > in Wyoming and South Dakota.

>>
>> It's all in cycles, Texas has had a bad drought for a few years but
>> we're doing pretty well this year. Prior to the drought we had a really
>> wet year including flooding and a few people drowning in my area. I
>> expect the next few years will be ok, then probably some more drought,
>> etc. One of the reasons I plan to do aquaponic farming at my next place
>> since it uses vastly (75%) less water than old school dirt farming. The
>> big commercial farms are going to ultimately have to go there as well,
>> perhaps going through drip irrigation as an intermediate step, replacing
>> the incredibly wasteful pivot irrigation that is the norm.

>
> It seems like the West is so parched, it's starting to blow away and
> the East is drowning.


Yep. And I was finally looking forward to a nice cool day. Our temp.
wasn't high today but it was oddly muggy.

I did bake though. Need to do one more shelf in the freezer but I was in
there cleaning out. It was kind of necessary as someone ripped through
almost all of the food in the fridge. Only thing left except for things
that are always there like produce, condiments, eggs and dairy is a single
serving of meatloaf and 4 very small baked potatoes. Worse still, the
culprit who shall remain nameless, put the empty containers back in there.
So... I had to find something quickly as my Full Circle order isn't coming
until Mon. and I will need food for the weekend.

I made a fruit cobbler, using up all of the fruit I had bought when Angela
was on a smoothie kick. Then of course after I stocked up again, she didn't
want any. That freed up a goodly amount of space.

Also discovered that someone was taking bacon from the bags and leaving one
or two pieces then sticking it back in the freezer. So... I am soaking some
navy beans right now for soup. Also took out a loaf of whole wheat bread.
Please note to anyone who might think I will be carb loading tomorrow, I
won't. I will have the soup and only the soup. I am making the bread for
husband and Angela. She won't eat the soup so she will likely have
something from the produce drawer to go with the bread and also a some
cheese or cottage cheese.

I am doing a little shopping tomorrow but only for very specific things.
Food bank donation, sliced apples from Costco and a few sale items from
Target. I am still plowing through my stockpile as quickly as I can.

Up for dinner next week? My version of Johnny Rosetti. Ground beef, onion,
tomato sauce, pasta and corn. Finally found that stupid bag of frozen corn
that kept escaping my eye when I was trying to use it up. Cheese on top for
those who eat it.

Another day will be Italian sausages and Pierogies for them. Butternut
squash ravioli for me.

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On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 19:58:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>I did bake though. Need to do one more shelf in the freezer but I was in
>there cleaning out. It was kind of necessary as someone ripped through
>almost all of the food in the fridge. Only thing left except for things
>that are always there like produce, condiments, eggs and dairy is a single
>serving of meatloaf and 4 very small baked potatoes. Worse still, the
>culprit who shall remain nameless, put the empty containers back in there.


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>Also discovered that someone was taking bacon from the bags and leaving one
>or two pieces then sticking it back in the freezer.


Has it ever occurred to you to give this mysterious "someone" shit for
doing this? If anyone in my household pulled that kind of crap they'd
shortly find themselves on cleaning the freezer duty.

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On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 19:58:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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> Our temp.
> wasn't high today but it was oddly muggy.


It's pretty muggy down here too. Not hot according to the
thermometer, but it's so humid that I woke up last night because I was
so uncomfortable and it doesn't feel much different tonight.


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On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:57:30 -0600, Janet Bostwick
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> >there was more than one barbecue and they were very close to, if not
> >exactly like this one.
> >http://artsandcraftshomes.com/wp-con...e_KenDruse.jpg

>
> Back in the day, every house-proud man built something like that. I
> think I always thought they pre-dated the commercial product. A
> cousin in Texas did up an oil barrel and we thought that was
> outrageous smart


My now departed BIL did that too and I had the same reaction at the
time. LOL



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"Doris Night" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 19:58:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I did bake though. Need to do one more shelf in the freezer but I was in
>>there cleaning out. It was kind of necessary as someone ripped through
>>almost all of the food in the fridge. Only thing left except for things
>>that are always there like produce, condiments, eggs and dairy is a single
>>serving of meatloaf and 4 very small baked potatoes. Worse still, the
>>culprit who shall remain nameless, put the empty containers back in there.

>
> <snip>
>
>>Also discovered that someone was taking bacon from the bags and leaving
>>one
>>or two pieces then sticking it back in the freezer.

>
> Has it ever occurred to you to give this mysterious "someone" shit for
> doing this? If anyone in my household pulled that kind of crap they'd
> shortly find themselves on cleaning the freezer duty.


Oh I found out who did the bacon thing. Now I just need to find out who has
been throwing away the spoons. First it was the forks, now this. I bought
a new set of flatware from Blair online a few years back. It was on
clearance for very cheap and is almost identical to what I had. You'd have
to look pretty close to tell that it wasn't the same. It is looking not so
great now though. What's left of it. Some of the original set had
tarnished.

And in looking online to buy a new set, I saw the cautions not to use lemon
dish detergent and not to immerse in tomato products. Say what? My mom
said she knew of the tomato thing. I'll bet the two worst spoons that I
have were left in a mug of tomato soup. And I used to use lemon dish washer
detergent.

Two sets of these are now on the way.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Designer-E...e-Set/31428516

Probably wouldn't be my first choice if money wasn't an option and I didn't
have some idiot in this house. When the forks were disappearing, I found
one in a box of cereal and I was also finding them in the trash. I didn't
notice the spoons in the trash but there were only two left in the drawer
and none in the sink. I did see someone take a spoon from the drawer and
when asked, this person replied that they were not taking them back into the
kitchen. And this is not the person who caused a problem with the bacon.
So... Not really happy about that but there is no way I would get expensive
flatware with this nonsense going on.

I'm sure it will be fine and it is slightly similar to the newer iced tea
spoons that I have. I did actually find one of those in the sink. *sigh*
It's always something.

I do have my husband's grandma's flatware or at least one set. She had
three and each of the families got one set. I was supposed to have gotten a
set of China as well but we really have no place to put one. So if we ever
get divorced, he can take grandma's flatware with him! It's just really
not my style. I prefer a heavier type and rather plan. So the two sets
that I ordered do fit those parameters.

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> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 19:58:29 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>> Our temp.
>> wasn't high today but it was oddly muggy.

>
> It's pretty muggy down here too. Not hot according to the
> thermometer, but it's so humid that I woke up last night because I was
> so uncomfortable and it doesn't feel much different tonight.
>

Very weird weather. It's 61 degrees right now but it just feels a bit
clammy. Daughter was trying to get some static cling on a balloon and she
couldn't because the air isn't dry.

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"Pete C." wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> "Pete C." wrote:
>> >sf wrote:

>
>> >>
>> >> It seems like the West is so parched, it's starting to blow away and
>> >> the East is drowning.
>> >
>> >Yes, but the middle had the dust bowl...

>>
>> Was dusty today... I brush hogged my wildflower flower meadow... 4
>> acres of 6' growth took five hours:
>> http://i58.tinypic.com/2guvzx2.jpg
>> Harvested another cabbage:
>> http://i59.tinypic.com/6yz5tw.jpg

>
>It's definitely enjoyable tooling around the field on the tractor.


I wouldn't call it "tooling", that meadow is rough and tractors have
no suspension... even with a good sprung seat after five hours it's
quite a workout, my whole body aches, especially my arms from hanging
on to the steering wheel and my hands got numb from constantly
gripping. Even using cruise control on the longer runs there are
mostly short runs and lots of turns that are tough on the throttle
leg... takes a while moving at 1.2 MPH.... can't go any faster or
those tough stems won't all get cut, some areas I had to go over 2-3
times, milkweed and goldenrod stems are like rope. I set the mower
deck at 5", I like to leave enough space so as not to harm the small
critters... however several times I watched a hawk dive onto a mouse
as it lost its cover, but that's a normal function of the food chain,
there are plenty of mice... my barn cats are patroling that meadow all
night, some won't touch canned cat food. Even though I'm in an air
conditioned cab with a cabin filter it's not dust proof so I wear a
paper mask, and still there's lots of dust/pollen. I'm glad I only
need to do that job once a year... in comparison mowing lawn areas are
like lying in a featherbed.
Better than an open tractor:
http://i61.tinypic.com/1zq8002.jpg
The pond area is always wet so the plants are tough:
http://i61.tinypic.com/vzeuwz.jpg
And the ride is bumpiest:
http://i62.tinypic.com/157lx1t.jpg
About half done:
http://i61.tinypic.com/ehiqrt.jpg
Still plenty of flowering plamts but I need to do this before the
weather turns wet:
http://i58.tinypic.com/2584947.jpg

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Brooklyn1 wrote:
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> "Pete C." wrote:
> >Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> "Pete C." wrote:
> >> >sf wrote:

> >
> >> >>
> >> >> It seems like the West is so parched, it's starting to blow away and
> >> >> the East is drowning.
> >> >
> >> >Yes, but the middle had the dust bowl...
> >>
> >> Was dusty today... I brush hogged my wildflower flower meadow... 4
> >> acres of 6' growth took five hours:
> >> http://i58.tinypic.com/2guvzx2.jpg
> >> Harvested another cabbage:
> >> http://i59.tinypic.com/6yz5tw.jpg

> >
> >It's definitely enjoyable tooling around the field on the tractor.

>
> I wouldn't call it "tooling", that meadow is rough and tractors have
> no suspension... even with a good sprung seat after five hours it's
> quite a workout, my whole body aches, especially my arms from hanging
> on to the steering wheel and my hands got numb from constantly
> gripping. Even using cruise control on the longer runs there are
> mostly short runs and lots of turns that are tough on the throttle
> leg... takes a while moving at 1.2 MPH.... can't go any faster or
> those tough stems won't all get cut, some areas I had to go over 2-3
> times, milkweed and goldenrod stems are like rope. I set the mower
> deck at 5", I like to leave enough space so as not to harm the small
> critters... however several times I watched a hawk dive onto a mouse
> as it lost its cover, but that's a normal function of the food chain,
> there are plenty of mice... my barn cats are patroling that meadow all
> night, some won't touch canned cat food. Even though I'm in an air
> conditioned cab with a cabin filter it's not dust proof so I wear a
> paper mask, and still there's lots of dust/pollen. I'm glad I only
> need to do that job once a year... in comparison mowing lawn areas are
> like lying in a featherbed.
> Better than an open tractor:
> http://i61.tinypic.com/1zq8002.jpg
> The pond area is always wet so the plants are tough:
> http://i61.tinypic.com/vzeuwz.jpg
> And the ride is bumpiest:
> http://i62.tinypic.com/157lx1t.jpg
> About half done:
> http://i61.tinypic.com/ehiqrt.jpg
> Still plenty of flowering plamts but I need to do this before the
> weather turns wet:
> http://i58.tinypic.com/2584947.jpg


Me mowing at a friends place on their NAA (which I helped them rebuild
when they got it):
http://wpnet.us/Tractor.jpg

I have just a little Kubota B7100DT at the moment, but it's great and
gets a lot of use just hauling stuff around.


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On 9/19/2014 10:38 AM, Pete C. wrote:

> Me mowing at a friends place on their NAA (which I helped them rebuild
> when they got it):
> http://wpnet.us/Tractor.jpg


Looks like a 1953 or '54 Jubilee model. This replaced the older 8N
models. The Jubilee was made to celebrate Ford's 50th Anniversary.
Lots of them (and the 8N's) still running.

They were very popular. Cheap to buy and easy to maintain.

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On 9/18/2014 5:57 PM, sf wrote:
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>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 09:05:31 -0700, sf > wrote:
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>>>
>>> We don't call it CARB. We call it the Air Climate Control Board.
>>> Only people who don't live in California are stupid enough to call it
>>> CARB, mainly so they can ignore the purpose it serves.

>>
>> I don't care what it is called.. California could you please keep the
>> smoke from your fires within your state? At 9:30 the morning we had
>> to drive with lights on. You could be forgiven for thinking it was
>> dusk. It was dark outside. The sky didn't lift at all until maybe
>> 2. We still are unable to see our foothills. The air smells as
>> though the fire is in our neighborhood. 'Nuff bitchin. How are you
>> California guys doing what with the fires and drought?
>> Janet US

>
> I understand, we need rain BADLY.
>
> Our visit to the Grand Canyon was ruined by smoke from fires there and
> smoke from fires in Washington state ruined a car trip to the sights
> in Wyoming and South Dakota.


The Houston area gets smoke from wildfires in Mexico and Florida, and I
am sure other states are getting smoke when Texas has wildfires. We had
a wonderful summer, it did not get too hot and we have had lots of rain,
we still have wildflowers growing by the side of the road.

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George Leppla wrote:
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> On 9/19/2014 10:38 AM, Pete C. wrote:
>
> > Me mowing at a friends place on their NAA (which I helped them rebuild
> > when they got it):
> > http://wpnet.us/Tractor.jpg

>
> Looks like a 1953 or '54 Jubilee model. This replaced the older 8N
> models. The Jubilee was made to celebrate Ford's 50th Anniversary.
> Lots of them (and the 8N's) still running.
>
> They were very popular. Cheap to buy and easy to maintain.
>
> George L


1955 NAA, largely the same as the Jubilee model. Not too difficult to do
a basic overhaul to get it running, bead blast and rebuild that lovely
Marvel carb, clean out fuel lines, retrofit a Delco 1 wire alternator
and a few other odds and ends on the engine. The 3pt lift hydraulics
needed new seals and gaskets, but that is pretty easy to get to. Not
sure on the cooling, it still seems to run a bit too hot, probably will
flush and clean the block and see if that clears things up. They also
got an old Deere gas backhoe which is quite similar, same Marvel carb,
too much the same work to get that going along with replacing the old
hydraulic hoses.
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