Shrimp Saganaki (Garides Saganaki) - Greek Recipe:

http://chefdepaprika.com/2014/09/shr...RecFoodCooking

On 9/19/14, 12:44 PM, Laszlo Varga wrote:
> Shrimp Saganaki (Garides Saganaki) - Greek Recipe:
>
> http://chefdepaprika.com/2014/09/shr...RecFoodCooking

You could use a better cheese than feta in that recipe. Kasseri would
get my vote.

-- Larry

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:44:06 -0700 (PDT), Laszlo Varga
> wrote:

>Shrimp Saganaki (Garides Saganaki) - Greek Recipe:
>
>http://chefdepaprika.com/2014/09/shr...RecFoodCooking

Yum! There's nothing wrong with any thing there.
Janet US

On 2014-09-19, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:44:06 -0700 (PDT), Laszlo Varga
> wrote:
>
>>Shrimp Saganaki (Garides Saganaki) - Greek Recipe:
>>
>>http://chefdepaprika.com/2014/09/shr...RecFoodCooking
>
> Yum! There's nothing wrong with any thing there.
> Janet US

.....and it proves, once again dear friends, that shelie knows less
than spit about cooking:

"Other dishes cooked in a saganaki pan include shrimp saganaki and
mussels saganaki, which are typically feta-based".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saganaki

nb

On 2014-09-19 3:41 PM, pltrgyst wrote:
> On 9/19/14, 12:44 PM, Laszlo Varga wrote:
>> Shrimp Saganaki (Garides Saganaki) - Greek Recipe:
>>
>> http://chefdepaprika.com/2014/09/shr...RecFoodCooking
>>
>
> You could use a better cheese than feta in that recipe. Kasseri would
> get my vote.
>
I have done a similar recipe... with feta... and it was excellent.
However, there is ordinary feta and there is good feta. I always try for
the good stuff, and I prefer the feta made from sheep milk.

On 9/19/2014 2:34 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Anise-flavored shrimp doesn't do anything for me.
>
> -sw

No one cares.

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:44:06 -0700 (PDT), Laszlo Varga
> wrote:

>Shrimp Saganaki (Garides Saganaki) - Greek Recipe:
>
>http://chefdepaprika.com/2014/09/shr...RecFoodCooking

Saganaki = FLAMING CHEESE!! Yum! I get it at that STL Greek restaurant
Olympia that Bryan won't patronize becaose he says rthey serve skimpy
portions!

http://www.olympiakebobandtaverna.com/

YUM!!

John Kuthe...

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On 9/19/2014 9:44 AM, Laszlo Varga wrote:
> Shrimp Saganaki (Garides Saganaki) - Greek Recipe:
>
> http://chefdepaprika.com/2014/09/shr...RecFoodCooking
>


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On 9/19/2014 9:44 AM, Laszlo Varga wrote:
> Shrimp Saganaki (Garides Saganaki) - Greek Recipe:
>
> http://chefdepaprika.com/2014/09/shr...RecFoodCooking
>

I noticed from the photos that the shrimp still had their shells. When
served in a salad or in an entrée with a lot of sauce, leaving the shell
(even mrely on the tail) is unacceptable. Either we have to get our
hands very messy, or else we have to leave part of an expensive meal
uneaten. I cook shrimp at home, usually buying raw shrimp with the
shell. It's not really hard to remove the ENTIRE shell, even from the
tail, before cooking.

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On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:38:44 -0500, John Kuthe >
wrote:

>On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:44:06 -0700 (PDT), Laszlo Varga
> wrote:
>
>>Shrimp Saganaki (Garides Saganaki) - Greek Recipe:
>>
>>http://chefdepaprika.com/2014/09/shr...RecFoodCooking
>
>Saganaki = FLAMING CHEESE!! Yum! I get it at that STL Greek restaurant
>Olympia that Bryan won't patronize becaose he says rthey serve skimpy
>portions!
>
>http://www.olympiakebobandtaverna.com/
>
>YUM!!
>
>John Kuthe...

Shrimp and cheese is TIAD... figures it'd be
Greek style... Kuthe's favorite

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 22:01:49 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:38:44 -0500, John Kuthe >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:44:06 -0700 (PDT), Laszlo Varga
> wrote:
>>
>>>Shrimp Saganaki (Garides Saganaki) - Greek Recipe:
>>>
>>>http://chefdepaprika.com/2014/09/shr...RecFoodCooking
>>
>>Saganaki = FLAMING CHEESE!! Yum! I get it at that STL Greek restaurant
>>Olympia that Bryan won't patronize becaose he says rthey serve skimpy
>>portions!
>>
>>http://www.olympiakebobandtaverna.com/
>>
>>YUM!!
>>
>>John Kuthe...
>
>Shrimp and cheese is TIAD... figures it'd be
>Greek style... Kuthe's favorite

Not in Olympia's saginaki.

But you make that sound like a bad thing? That was the first place I
kissed a girl! True story! ;-)

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On 2014-09-19, Dave Smith > wrote:

> However, there is ordinary feta and there is good feta. I always try for
> the good stuff, and I prefer the feta made from sheep milk.

It's getting harder and harder to find decent feta. Where I live, you
can no longer even buy whole feta. It's comes all crumbled and costs
more.

Oh wait, I did find some whole feta in a local health food store,
But, it's still the same crappy Kraft Athenos feta, which is not
goat's milk feta. I need to talk to the store ppl.

nb

On Friday, September 19, 2014 9:05:58 PM UTC-4, David E. Ross wrote:
>
> I noticed from the photos that the shrimp still had their shells. When
> served in a salad or in an entr�e with a lot of sauce, leaving the shell
> (even mrely on the tail) is unacceptable. Either we have to get our
> hands very messy, or else we have to leave part of an expensive meal
> uneaten. I cook shrimp at home, usually buying raw shrimp with the
> shell. It's not really hard to remove the ENTIRE shell, even from the
> tail, before cooking.
>
> David E. Ross
>
There are many advantages to cooking shrimp in the shell. One of the most
important is enjoyment. Using one's fingers, peeling the shrimp, having to
lick the excess sauce from the fingers is a great way to eat. It also
tends to slow down the process so that you can enjoy the meal for longer.

Don't be scared to get your fingers messy.

http://ww.richardfisher.com

On 9/22/2014 8:23 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Friday, September 19, 2014 9:05:58 PM UTC-4, David E. Ross wrote:
>>
>> I noticed from the photos that the shrimp still had their shells. When
>> served in a salad or in an entr�e with a lot of sauce, leaving the shell
>> (even mrely on the tail) is unacceptable. Either we have to get our
>> hands very messy, or else we have to leave part of an expensive meal
>> uneaten. I cook shrimp at home, usually buying raw shrimp with the
>> shell. It's not really hard to remove the ENTIRE shell, even from the
>> tail, before cooking.
>>
>> David E. Ross
>>
> There are many advantages to cooking shrimp in the shell. One of the most
> important is enjoyment. Using one's fingers, peeling the shrimp, having to
> lick the excess sauce from the fingers is a great way to eat. It also
> tends to slow down the process so that you can enjoy the meal for longer.
>
> Don't be scared to get your fingers messy.
>
> http://ww.richardfisher.com
>
You'd think that over a long life I'd get used to eating with my fingers
but I don't nor do I like eating shrimp that I have to shell. It's a bit
like having to pick out the bones of other seafood and I don't like
eating Ethiopian or Indian style trying to pick up food with bread. I do
like those ethnic foods but give me my fork.

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Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On Monday, September 22, 2014 8:52:30 AM UTC-4, James Silverton wrote:
> On 9/22/2014 8:23 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> > On Friday, September 19, 2014 9:05:58 PM UTC-4, David E. Ross wrote:
> >>
> >> I noticed from the photos that the shrimp still had their shells. When
> >> served in a salad or in an entr�e with a lot of sauce, leaving the shell
> >> (even mrely on the tail) is unacceptable. Either we have to get our
> >> hands very messy, or else we have to leave part of an expensive meal
> >> uneaten. I cook shrimp at home, usually buying raw shrimp with the
> >> shell. It's not really hard to remove the ENTIRE shell, even from the
> >> tail, before cooking.
> >>
> >> David E. Ross
> >>
> > There are many advantages to cooking shrimp in the shell. One of the most
> > important is enjoyment. Using one's fingers, peeling the shrimp, having to
> > lick the excess sauce from the fingers is a great way to eat. It also
> > tends to slow down the process so that you can enjoy the meal for longer.

On 2014-09-22 8:52 AM, James Silverton wrote:

> You'd think that over a long life I'd get used to eating with my fingers
> but I don't nor do I like eating shrimp that I have to shell. It's a bit
> like having to pick out the bones of other seafood and I don't like
> eating Ethiopian or Indian style trying to pick up food with bread. I do
> like those ethnic foods but give me my fork.


It is a good way to pad out the shrimp. People eat less of it when they
have to take the time to peel them.
We had surf and turf last night and I marinated and cooked the shrimp in
the shell. I usually peel them first but my wife had picked up a bag of
extra large (so they said) that were not just split and deveined, but
had been slit too far down the backs. The last time I cooked those they
were more like butterflied, which I did not want. So I left them in the
shell. There is a subtle difference in flavour when grilled in the
shell. There were just big enough to be able to eat them with a knife
and fork.

On 9/22/2014 5:23 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Friday, September 19, 2014 9:05:58 PM UTC-4, David E. Ross wrote:
>>
>> I noticed from the photos that the shrimp still had their shells. When
>> served in a salad or in an entr�e with a lot of sauce, leaving the shell
>> (even mrely on the tail) is unacceptable. Either we have to get our
>> hands very messy, or else we have to leave part of an expensive meal
>> uneaten. I cook shrimp at home, usually buying raw shrimp with the
>> shell. It's not really hard to remove the ENTIRE shell, even from the
>> tail, before cooking.
>>
>> David E. Ross
>>
> There are many advantages to cooking shrimp in the shell. One of the most
> important is enjoyment. Using one's fingers, peeling the shrimp, having to
> lick the excess sauce from the fingers is a great way to eat. It also
> tends to slow down the process so that you can enjoy the meal for longer.
>
> Don't be scared to get your fingers messy.
>
> http://ww.richardfisher.com
>

At home, it might be okay to use my fingers (except when one of my
grandchildren are eating with us). In a restaurant, however, I am
uncomfortable licking my fingers in public. Also in a restaurant, the
polyester-blend napkins they provide -- because they need no ironing --
really do not clean the mess from my hands.

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On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:20:33 -0700, "David E. Ross"
> wrote:

> On 9/22/2014 5:23 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> > On Friday, September 19, 2014 9:05:58 PM UTC-4, David E. Ross wrote:
> >>
> >> I noticed from the photos that the shrimp still had their shells. When
> >> served in a salad or in an entr�e with a lot of sauce, leaving the shell
> >> (even mrely on the tail) is unacceptable. Either we have to get our
> >> hands very messy, or else we have to leave part of an expensive meal
> >> uneaten. I cook shrimp at home, usually buying raw shrimp with the
> >> shell. It's not really hard to remove the ENTIRE shell, even from the
> >> tail, before cooking.
> >>
> >> David E. Ross
> >>
> > There are many advantages to cooking shrimp in the shell. One of the most
> > important is enjoyment. Using one's fingers, peeling the shrimp, having to
> > lick the excess sauce from the fingers is a great way to eat. It also
> > tends to slow down the process so that you can enjoy the meal for longer.
> >
> > Don't be scared to get your fingers messy.
> >
> > http://ww.richardfisher.com
> >
>
> At home, it might be okay to use my fingers (except when one of my
> grandchildren are eating with us). In a restaurant, however, I am
> uncomfortable licking my fingers in public. Also in a restaurant, the
> polyester-blend napkins they provide -- because they need no ironing --
> really do not clean the mess from my hands.

There have been a number of times when I wished restaurants provided
moist towelettes with the dish.


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On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 05:23:10 -0700 (PDT), Helpful person
> wrote:

>On Friday, September 19, 2014 9:05:58 PM UTC-4, David E. Ross wrote:
>>
>> I noticed from the photos that the shrimp still had their shells. When
>> served in a salad or in an entr�e with a lot of sauce, leaving the shell
>> (even mrely on the tail) is unacceptable. Either we have to get our
>> hands very messy, or else we have to leave part of an expensive meal
>> uneaten. I cook shrimp at home, usually buying raw shrimp with the
>> shell. It's not really hard to remove the ENTIRE shell, even from the
>> tail, before cooking.
>>
>> David E. Ross
>>
>There are many advantages to cooking shrimp in the shell. One of the most
>important is enjoyment. Using one's fingers, peeling the shrimp, having to
>lick the excess sauce from the fingers is a great way to eat. It also
>tends to slow down the process so that you can enjoy the meal for longer.
>
>Don't be scared to get your fingers messy.

The advantage is the shell helps retain the flavor of the shrimp, but
to serve remove the shell leaving only the tail... serving cooked
shimp fully in its shell is gauche.

On 2014-09-22 12:28 PM, sf wrote:

>> At home, it might be okay to use my fingers (except when one of my
>> grandchildren are eating with us). In a restaurant, however, I am
>> uncomfortable licking my fingers in public. Also in a restaurant, the
>> polyester-blend napkins they provide -- because they need no ironing --
>> really do not clean the mess from my hands.
>
> There have been a number of times when I wished restaurants provided
> moist towelettes with the dish.
>
I hate those things. I don't like the smell or the feel. I would rather
have a finger bowl.

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:00:06 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-09-22 12:28 PM, sf wrote:
>
> >> At home, it might be okay to use my fingers (except when one of my
> >> grandchildren are eating with us). In a restaurant, however, I am
> >> uncomfortable licking my fingers in public. Also in a restaurant, the
> >> polyester-blend napkins they provide -- because they need no ironing --
> >> really do not clean the mess from my hands.
> >
> > There have been a number of times when I wished restaurants provided
> > moist towelettes with the dish.
> >
> I hate those things. I don't like the smell or the feel. I would rather
> have a finger bowl.

They obviously don't bother me and are 100% better than the nothing we
usually get. Finger bowls are fine, as are real moistened and heated
towels (which is the best option, AFAIC).


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James Silverton wrote:
>Helpful person wrote:
>>David E. Ross wrote:
>>>
>>> I noticed from the photos that the shrimp still had their shells. When
>>> served in a salad or in an entr�e with a lot of sauce, leaving the shell
>>> (even mrely on the tail) is unacceptable. Either we have to get our
>>> hands very messy, or else we have to leave part of an expensive meal
>>> uneaten. I cook shrimp at home, usually buying raw shrimp with the
>>> shell. It's not really hard to remove the ENTIRE shell, even from the
>>> tail, before cooking.
>>>
>> There are many advantages to cooking shrimp in the shell. One of the most
>> important is enjoyment. Using one's fingers, peeling the shrimp, having to
>> lick the excess sauce from the fingers is a great way to eat. It also
>> tends to slow down the process so that you can enjoy the meal for longer.
>>
>> Don't be scared to get your fingers messy.
>>
>> http://ww.richardfisher.com
>>
>You'd think that over a long life I'd get used to eating with my fingers
>but I don't nor do I like eating shrimp that I have to shell. It's a bit
>like having to pick out the bones of other seafood and I don't like
>eating Ethiopian or Indian style trying to pick up food with bread. I do
>like those ethnic foods but give me my fork.

I take it you're never diapered an infant and the mere thought of
oral sex grosses you out.

Helpful person wrote:
>
> There are many advantages to cooking shrimp in the shell. One of the most
> important is enjoyment. Using one's fingers, peeling the shrimp, having to
> lick the excess sauce from the fingers is a great way to eat. It also
> tends to slow down the process so that you can enjoy the meal for longer.

I always cook shrimp in the shell but I certainly don't eat the damn
shell too. WTH is with this "I eat the shells too" thing here lately.
I can only think they are kidding. SF started it.

Anyone that eats shrimp, shells and all, has major TIAD. I would be
embarrassed to be at a restaurant eating shrimp and see them do that.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read here in the past 3 years.


G.

On 2014-09-22 5:24 PM, wrote:

> Don't knock it until you try it. The shells are fine if they are
> properly cooked and probably I am sure they are an excellent source of
> roughage

My dog would agree with you.

On 9/22/2014 2:20 PM, Gary wrote:
> Helpful person wrote:
>>
>> There are many advantages to cooking shrimp in the shell. One of the most
>> important is enjoyment. Using one's fingers, peeling the shrimp, having to
>> lick the excess sauce from the fingers is a great way to eat. It also
>> tends to slow down the process so that you can enjoy the meal for longer.
>
> I always cook shrimp in the shell but I certainly don't eat the damn
> shell too. WTH is with this "I eat the shells too" thing here lately.
> I can only think they are kidding. SF started it.
>
> Anyone that eats shrimp, shells and all, has major TIAD. I would be
> embarrassed to be at a restaurant eating shrimp and see them do that.
> That's the dumbest thing I've ever read here in the past 3 years.
>
>
> G.
>

If the shrimp is deep-fried to the point where the tail shell is crispy,
I eat the tail shell. In that case, it is easy to chew the shell into
fine bits that won't upset my stomach.

If the shrimp is grilled or in a sauce, I do not eat the shell. In an
informal setting, I will pick up the shrimp by the tail and suck the
meat out; the tail makes an excellent handle. In a formal setting, the
meat in the tail is wasted because I then use only a knife and fork.

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> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:20:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Helpful person wrote:
>>>
>>> There are many advantages to cooking shrimp in the shell. One of the
>>> most
>>> important is enjoyment. Using one's fingers, peeling the shrimp, having
>>> to
>>> lick the excess sauce from the fingers is a great way to eat. It also
>>> tends to slow down the process so that you can enjoy the meal for
>>> longer.
>>
>>I always cook shrimp in the shell but I certainly don't eat the damn
>>shell too. WTH is with this "I eat the shells too" thing here lately.
>>I can only think they are kidding. SF started it.
>>
>>Anyone that eats shrimp, shells and all, has major TIAD. I would be
>>embarrassed to be at a restaurant eating shrimp and see them do that.
>>That's the dumbest thing I've ever read here in the past 3 years.
>>
>>
>>G.
>
> Don't knock it until you try it. The shells are fine if they are
> properly cooked and probably I am sure they are an excellent source of
> roughage

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:20:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> Anyone that eats shrimp, shells and all, has major TIAD. I would be
> embarrassed to be at a restaurant eating shrimp and see them do that.
> That's the dumbest thing I've ever read here in the past 3 years.

You don't eat in restaurants, so how would you know?


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On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:31:25 -0700, "David E. Ross"
> wrote:

> In a formal setting, the
> meat in the tail is wasted because I then use only a knife and fork.

I can't think of one formal setting that would serve you shrimp in a
shell. If you're talking about a typical Chinese restaurant, that's
hardly formal.


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> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 23:38:00 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:20:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Helpful person wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There are many advantages to cooking shrimp in the shell. One of the
>>>>> most
>>>>> important is enjoyment. Using one's fingers, peeling the shrimp,
>>>>> having
>>>>> to
>>>>> lick the excess sauce from the fingers is a great way to eat. It also
>>>>> tends to slow down the process so that you can enjoy the meal for
>>>>> longer.
>>>>
>>>>I always cook shrimp in the shell but I certainly don't eat the damn
>>>>shell too. WTH is with this "I eat the shells too" thing here lately.
>>>>I can only think they are kidding. SF started it.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone that eats shrimp, shells and all, has major TIAD. I would be
>>>>embarrassed to be at a restaurant eating shrimp and see them do that.
>>>>That's the dumbest thing I've ever read here in the past 3 years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>G.
>>>
>>> Don't knock it until you try it. The shells are fine if they are
>>> properly cooked and probably I am sure they are an excellent source of
>>> roughage
>>
>>ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>
> You Yorkshire Lass'

lolol that'll be me then ))


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On 2014-09-23 3:02 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:31:25 -0700, "David E. Ross"
> > wrote:
>
>> In a formal setting, the
>> meat in the tail is wasted because I then use only a knife and fork.
>
> I can't think of one formal setting that would serve you shrimp in a
> shell. If you're talking about a typical Chinese restaurant, that's
> hardly formal.
>

That is king of insulting to the Chinese doncha think?

On 9/23/2014 12:02 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:31:25 -0700, "David E. Ross"
> > wrote:
>
>> In a formal setting, the
>> meat in the tail is wasted because I then use only a knife and fork.
>
> I can't think of one formal setting that would serve you shrimp in a
> shell. If you're talking about a typical Chinese restaurant, that's
> hardly formal.
>
>

I was thinking of a rather expensive Italian restaurant: many waiters,
white table cloths, vallet parking, a wine list longer than the menu, NO
pizza, everything tasted fresh (no canned or frozen).

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On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 08:54:42 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-09-23 3:02 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:31:25 -0700, "David E. Ross"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> In a formal setting, the
> >> meat in the tail is wasted because I then use only a knife and fork.
> >
> > I can't think of one formal setting that would serve you shrimp in a
> > shell. If you're talking about a typical Chinese restaurant, that's
> > hardly formal.
> >
>
> That is king of insulting to the Chinese doncha think?

No. Maybe every Chinese restaurant is fine dining where you are, but
they aren't here and if a Chinese restaurant does serve shelled
shrimp, it will be a good bet that it's catering to tourists, not
Chinese people.


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On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 07:33:22 -0700, "David E. Ross"
> wrote:

> On 9/23/2014 12:02 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:31:25 -0700, "David E. Ross"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> In a formal setting, the
> >> meat in the tail is wasted because I then use only a knife and fork.
> >
> > I can't think of one formal setting that would serve you shrimp in a
> > shell. If you're talking about a typical Chinese restaurant, that's
> > hardly formal.
> >
> >
>
> I was thinking of a rather expensive Italian restaurant: many waiters,
> white table cloths, vallet parking, a wine list longer than the menu, NO
> pizza, everything tasted fresh (no canned or frozen).

Can't say I've had that experience in any Italian restaurant.


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On 2014-09-23 10:33 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

>> I can't think of one formal setting that would serve you shrimp in a
>> shell. If you're talking about a typical Chinese restaurant, that's
>> hardly formal.
>>
>>
>
> I was thinking of a rather expensive Italian restaurant: many waiters,
> white table cloths, vallet parking, a wine list longer than the menu, NO
> pizza, everything tasted fresh (no canned or frozen).

Is there such a place outside of Italy. Any Italian restaurant around
here has a menu that consists mostly of various shapes of pasta with
slight variations of tomato sauce, may al Frado or a clam sauce. Some
of the upscale Italian places have fancier pasta dishes, like ravioli
with a lobster sauce. I don't think I have ever seen one that has no pizza.

On 2014-09-23 10:43 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 08:54:42 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-09-23 3:02 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:31:25 -0700, "David E. Ross"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> In a formal setting, the
>>>> meat in the tail is wasted because I then use only a knife and fork.
>>>
>>> I can't think of one formal setting that would serve you shrimp in a
>>> shell. If you're talking about a typical Chinese restaurant, that's
>>> hardly formal.
>>>
>>
>> That is king of insulting to the Chinese doncha think?
>
> No. Maybe every Chinese restaurant is fine dining where you are, but
> they aren't here and if a Chinese restaurant does serve shelled
> shrimp, it will be a good bet that it's catering to tourists, not
> Chinese people.
>

The word was formal, not fine dining. Of course you would not have to
worry about having to figure out which fork or spoon to use with each
course since you could shovel everything in with the fine chop sticks.

FWIW... I have eaten shrimp in a Chinese restaurant in a Chinese
shopping mall where my friend and I were the only non Chinese, and the
shrimp was cooked and served in the shell.

On 2014-09-23 10:48 AM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 07:33:22 -0700, "David E. Ross"
> > wrote:
>
>> On 9/23/2014 12:02 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:31:25 -0700, "David E. Ross"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> In a formal setting, the
>>>> meat in the tail is wasted because I then use only a knife and fork.
>>>
>>> I can't think of one formal setting that would serve you shrimp in a
>>> shell. If you're talking about a typical Chinese restaurant, that's
>>> hardly formal.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I was thinking of a rather expensive Italian restaurant: many waiters,
>> white table cloths, vallet parking, a wine list longer than the menu, NO
>> pizza, everything tasted fresh (no canned or frozen).
>
> Can't say I've had that experience in any Italian restaurant.
>
>

No have I. The difference between a cheap Italian restaurant and a
classy Italian restaurant is cloth napkins and table cloths, and you can
be pretty sure that some of your meal came out of a can or jar.

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:32:23 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> FWIW... I have eaten shrimp in a Chinese restaurant in a Chinese
> shopping mall where my friend and I were the only non Chinese, and the
> shrimp was cooked and served in the shell.

In Japan too, shrimp if deep fried can be had with the
shell and with the heads. All is supposed to be eaten.

http://www.richardfisher.com

sf wrote:
>
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:20:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> > Anyone that eats shrimp, shells and all, has major TIAD. I would be
> > embarrassed to be at a restaurant eating shrimp and see them do that.
> > That's the dumbest thing I've ever read here in the past 3 years.
>
> You don't eat in restaurants, so how would you know?

True enough but even a monkey knows to peel a banana before she eats
it.

G.

On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:32:23 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-09-23 10:43 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 08:54:42 -0400, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-09-23 3:02 AM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:31:25 -0700, "David E. Ross"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In a formal setting, the
> >>>> meat in the tail is wasted because I then use only a knife and fork.
> >>>
> >>> I can't think of one formal setting that would serve you shrimp in a
> >>> shell. If you're talking about a typical Chinese restaurant, that's
> >>> hardly formal.
> >>>
> >>
> >> That is king of insulting to the Chinese doncha think?
> >
> > No. Maybe every Chinese restaurant is fine dining where you are, but
> > they aren't here and if a Chinese restaurant does serve shelled
> > shrimp, it will be a good bet that it's catering to tourists, not
> > Chinese people.
> >
>
> The word was formal, not fine dining.

No idea what you're talking about in that case and don't care at this
point.


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On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:27:47 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I don't think I have ever seen one that has no pizza.

Me either. It might be a small part of the menu and toppings might be
limited, but it's there somewhere.



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