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I bought a bottle of apple cider vinegar ( enough to last me many years ) and noticed there was no date anywhere. I thought that this was now mandatory on all packaged food items. Can someone supply a link to the law on this? Thanks.
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Kalmia wrote:
> I bought a bottle of apple cider vinegar ( enough to last me many years ) and noticed there was no date anywhere. I thought that this was now mandatory on all packaged food items. Can someone supply a link to the law on this? Thanks. I have some Sweethearts from the classroom exchange in February ... no date on there either. There's a number, 329322. I guess that's what you give to the foodborne illness investigator if you get sick... they must have a place where they can look those up. I have some other extreemely old candy which has sentimental value. |
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On 9/19/2014 2:59 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> I bought a bottle of apple cider vinegar ( enough to last me many years ) and noticed there was no date anywhere. I thought that this was now mandatory on all packaged food items. Can someone supply a link to the law on this? Thanks. Consider yourself lucky. Without a freshness date on the bottle, you don't have to worry about a family member throwing it away. Bob |
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![]() "Kalmia" > wrote in message ... >I bought a bottle of apple cider vinegar ( enough to last me many years ) >and noticed there was no date anywhere. I thought that this was now >mandatory on all packaged food items. Can someone supply a link to the law >on this? Thanks. If there is such a law, I hope it has a sunset provision. |
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On 2014-09-19 3:59 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> I bought a bottle of apple cider vinegar ( enough to last me many > years ) and noticed there was no date anywhere. I thought that this > was now mandatory on all packaged food items. Can someone supply a > link to the law on this? Thanks. Google is your friend. Try "vinegar best by before date". Vinegar is a preservative. It has an indefinite shelf life. |
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![]() Sqwertz wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 12:59:15 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia wrote: > > > I bought a bottle of apple cider vinegar ( enough to last me many > > years ) and noticed there was no date anywhere. I thought that > > this was now mandatory on all packaged food items. Can someone > > supply a link to the law on this? Thanks. > > There is no such law. Best by/Use by dates are not mandatory. And > when they are used, nothing governs them. Manufacturers and retailers > are free to use any date they want, code the date so that consumers > can't decipher it, or not use a date at all. > > A lot or batch number is the only variable mark required on a package > during packaging (applies to most, but not all foods). > > -sw Milk does have legal "sell by" date requirements, other foods not so much. |
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![]() "Kalmia" > wrote in message ... >I bought a bottle of apple cider vinegar ( enough to last me many years ) >and noticed there was no date anywhere. I thought that this was now >mandatory on all packaged food items. Can someone supply a link to the law >on this? Thanks. I can't supply a link but I frequently see this. I think sometimes they use a stamp and it doesn't make it onto some packages. |
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![]() "tert in seattle" > wrote in message ... > Kalmia wrote: >> I bought a bottle of apple cider vinegar ( enough to last me many years ) >> and noticed there was no date anywhere. I thought that this was now >> mandatory on all packaged food items. Can someone supply a link to the >> law on this? Thanks. > > > I have some Sweethearts from the classroom exchange in February ... no > date on there either. There's a number, 329322. I guess that's what you > give to the foodborne illness investigator if you get sick... they must > have a place where they can look those up. > > I have some other extreemely old candy which has sentimental value. I don't know if they still do but Fisher nuts used to use a code for the expiration date. I could never remember how to interpret that code so I never would buy them because I couldn't tell how old they were. |
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On 2014-09-19 6:31 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I don't know if they still do but Fisher nuts used to use a code for the > expiration date. I could never remember how to interpret that code so I > never would buy them because I couldn't tell how old they were. Holy shit. My life would not have been complete without that knowledge. |
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 17:41:57 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2014-09-19 3:59 PM, Kalmia wrote: >> I bought a bottle of apple cider vinegar ( enough to last me many >> years ) and noticed there was no date anywhere. I thought that this >> was now mandatory on all packaged food items. Can someone supply a >> link to the law on this? Thanks. > >Google is your friend. Try "vinegar best by before date". Vinegar is a >preservative. It has an indefinite shelf life. Vinegar has a "best used by" date... doesn't go bad but it gets cloudy. |
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On Friday, September 19, 2014 1:20:21 PM UTC-7, tert in seattle wrote:
> I have some Sweethearts from the classroom exchange in February ... no > date on there either. There's a number, 329322. I guess that's what you > give to the foodborne illness investigator if you get sick... they must > have a place where they can look those up. > > I have some other extreemely old candy which has sentimental value. I have to warn you -- last year's Kandee Korn is not nearly as delicious as fresh Korn is. I wonder where I can get a bag of Circus Peanuts -- I love that light foam textrue. |
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![]() "Sqwertz" > wrote in message ... > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 16:43:19 -0500, Pete C. wrote: > >> Sqwertz wrote: >> >>> There is no such law. Best by/Use by dates are not mandatory. And >>> when they are used, nothing governs them. Manufacturers and retailers >>> are free to use any date they want, code the date so that consumers >>> can't decipher it, or not use a date at all. >>> >>> A lot or batch number is the only variable mark required on a package >>> during packaging (applies to most, but not all foods). >> >> Milk does have legal "sell by" date requirements, other foods not so >> much. > > California has a date law for milk but the date is arbitrary. A > handful of other states have a mandatory sell-by dates for milk, > usually 12-20 days from pasteurization. There is no milk or dairy law > for Texas. > > The only Federal requirement for dates on food is for baby food and > formula - which must be purged from retail shelves by a set date. > of course if the baby food is bought and taken home and fed to a baby, it is likely to be purged much earlier than the sell by date. |
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On 9/19/2014 8:02 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 16:43:19 -0500, Pete C. wrote: > >> Sqwertz wrote: >> >>> There is no such law. Best by/Use by dates are not mandatory. And >>> when they are used, nothing governs them. Manufacturers and retailers >>> are free to use any date they want, code the date so that consumers >>> can't decipher it, or not use a date at all. >>> >>> A lot or batch number is the only variable mark required on a package >>> during packaging (applies to most, but not all foods). >> >> Milk does have legal "sell by" date requirements, other foods not so >> much. > > California has a date law for milk but the date is arbitrary. A > handful of other states have a mandatory sell-by dates for milk, > usually 12-20 days from pasteurization. There is no milk or dairy law > for Texas. Every container of milk I buy in Texas has an expiration date. Same for yogurt and eggs. > The only Federal requirement for dates on food is for baby food and > formula - which must be purged from retail shelves by a set date. > > -sw > -- From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas |
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 20:41:01 -0500, Janet Wilder >
wrote: > > Every container of milk I buy in Texas has an expiration date. Same for > yogurt and eggs. I think it's a sell by date (for the store to rotate it off the shelf), not an expiration date. Food doesn't magically go bad the day after the date on a package. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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![]() > wrote in message ... > On Friday, September 19, 2014 1:20:21 PM UTC-7, tert in seattle wrote: > >> I have some Sweethearts from the classroom exchange in February ... no >> date on there either. There's a number, 329322. I guess that's what you >> give to the foodborne illness investigator if you get sick... they must >> have a place where they can look those up. >> > >> I have some other extreemely old candy which has sentimental value. > > I have to warn you -- last year's Kandee Korn is not nearly as delicious > as fresh Korn is. > > I wonder where I can get a bag of Circus Peanuts -- I love that light > foam textrue. Try Big Lots. I have bought them there. But I can't say for sure that they have them now. |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message ... > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 20:41:01 -0500, Janet Wilder > > wrote: > >> >> Every container of milk I buy in Texas has an expiration date. Same for >> yogurt and eggs. > > I think it's a sell by date (for the store to rotate it off the > shelf), not an expiration date. Food doesn't magically go bad the day > after the date on a package. Some have a use by date. |
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On 9/20/2014 3:00 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "sf" > wrote in message > ... >> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 20:41:01 -0500, Janet Wilder > >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Every container of milk I buy in Texas has an expiration date. Same for >>> yogurt and eggs. >> >> I think it's a sell by date (for the store to rotate it off the >> shelf), not an expiration date. Food doesn't magically go bad the day >> after the date on a package. > > Some have a use by date. And again, it's arbitrary. A recommendation, not a commandment. Jill |
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On 2014-09-20 12:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> I appreciate having a "best by" date on a carton of milk, but you're > absolutely right. I can tell by smell if the milk has soured or is just > starting to turn. Even then, I may not throw it all away. Slightly > soured milk works just fine when baking cornbread. (I don't usually > have buttermilk in the fridge.) I buy milk in bags of three one and a third liters. I don't drink milk and use it only for cereal, lattes and cooking. I always check the best before dates to make sure they are at least two weeks away, because that is how long it is going to last at our rate of consumption. A couple weeks ago I was buying milk on sale and checked the expiry dates and they were only three days away. I asked the guy stocking the dairy case if he had anything fresher and he went back and found some for me. No wonder it had been on sale. They were trying to dump it before it went sour. |
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On Friday, September 19, 2014 7:45:17 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > > I wonder where I can get a bag of Circus Peanuts -- I love that light > > foam textrue. Somewhere out there, there are folks who actually *like* Circus Peanuts. As hard as it is to imagine... http://www.unconventionalmommytails....s+peanuts1.jpg --Bryan |
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