On 9/22/2014 10:51 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:03:51 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
> wrote:
>
>> Use it in good health. I wish we had space for something like that but
>> we've got counters and cabintes on both sides and above, and we only can
>> fit a small one.
>
> They are made for 30 inch openings now! Not sure if they are counter
> depth or what.
>
>

This unit is 36" wide, almost 70 " tall and 35 inches deep... but it is
28.5 cubic ft capacity. This is a monster and way bigger than most
people would need unless they have a big family.

They also make a 26" counter depth unit and we looked at that. I think
it was 21 Cubic ft. We could have lived with that, but the way we buy,
the bigger model was a better choice.... even if it does stick out.
Side by side, the smaller one really looked too small.

George L

"George Leppla" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/22/2014 10:51 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:03:51 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Use it in good health. I wish we had space for something like that but
>>> we've got counters and cabintes on both sides and above, and we only can
>>> fit a small one.
>>
>> They are made for 30 inch openings now! Not sure if they are counter
>> depth or what.
>>
>>
>
> This unit is 36" wide, almost 70 " tall and 35 inches deep... but it is
> 28.5 cubic ft capacity. This is a monster and way bigger than most people
> would need unless they have a big family.
>
> They also make a 26" counter depth unit and we looked at that. I think it
> was 21 Cubic ft. We could have lived with that, but the way we buy, the
> bigger model was a better choice.... even if it does stick out. Side by
> side, the smaller one really looked too small.
>
> George L

I'd sooner have a bigger one like you bought than a smaller one. My MIL had
a small one and it was just a pain to jockey for space. I could easily live
with it sticking out.

Cheri

Cheri wrote:
> "George Leppla" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/22/2014 10:51 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:03:51 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Use it in good health. I wish we had space for something like
>>>> that but we've got counters and cabintes on both sides and above,
>>>> and we only can fit a small one.
>>>
>>> They are made for 30 inch openings now! Not sure if they are
>>> counter depth or what.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This unit is 36" wide, almost 70 " tall and 35 inches deep... but it
>> is 28.5 cubic ft capacity. This is a monster and way bigger than
>> most
>> people would need unless they have a big family.
>>
>> They also make a 26" counter depth unit and we looked at that. I
>> think it was 21 Cubic ft. We could have lived with that, but the way
>> we buy, the bigger model was a better choice.... even if it does
>> stick out. Side by side, the smaller one really looked too small.
>>
>> George L
>
> I'd sooner have a bigger one like you bought than a smaller one. My
> MIL had a small one and it was just a pain to jockey for space. I
> could easily live with it sticking out.
>
> Cheri

I think ours is 21 cubic feet. Old house, small kitchen, small
refrigerator nook.

OTOH, I must observe that, now that we try to eat better, we don't have
as much in our refrigerator or freezer. The 'fridge here contains a lot
of leftovers, sometimes things we cook in big batches on purpose, e.g.,
we usually buy sausage 3 lbs. at a time because they give you a $2/lb
break on the price at the local WF if you do that. But especially my
freezer doesn't have a whole lot in it these days.

-S-

"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...

> I think ours is 21 cubic feet. Old house, small kitchen, small
> refrigerator nook.
>
> OTOH, I must observe that, now that we try to eat better, we don't have as
> much in our refrigerator or freezer. The 'fridge here contains a lot of
> leftovers, sometimes things we cook in big batches on purpose, e.g., we
> usually buy sausage 3 lbs. at a time because they give you a $2/lb break
> on the price at the local WF if you do that. But especially my freezer
> doesn't have a whole lot in it these days.
>
> -S-

I don't have a big one either, old house, small refrigerator nook too, but
if I had the choice I would choose a larger one, especially the freezer
compartment because I like to stock up on sale too.

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote:
>"Steve Freides" wrote:
>
>> I think ours is 21 cubic feet. Old house, small kitchen, small
>> refrigerator nook.
>>
>> OTOH, I must observe that, now that we try to eat better, we don't have as
>> much in our refrigerator or freezer. The 'fridge here contains a lot of
>> leftovers, sometimes things we cook in big batches on purpose, e.g., we
>> usually buy sausage 3 lbs. at a time because they give you a $2/lb break
>> on the price at the local WF if you do that. But especially my freezer
>> doesn't have a whole lot in it these days.
>
>I don't have a big one either, old house, small refrigerator nook too, but
>if I had the choice I would choose a larger one, especially the freezer
>compartment because I like to stock up on sale too.
>
I found it more advantageous and costs less to have a 2nd refrigerator
freezer. With the two freezers I don't need a stand alone freezer and
just in case one unit goes on the fritz I don't need to worry about
being majorly inconvenienced. I have a large top of the line GE
Profile (23 cu ft) in the kitchen and a smaller (17 cu ft) no frills
used refrigerator freezer in the basement that cost $100 from a local
used appliance store, rarely opened so costs pennies to run and so far
hasn't had a problem in 11 years. The 2nd fridge space is very handy,
especially since I grow veggies. I would always recommend a second
refrigerator freezer rather than a gigantic pricy eye candy unit plus
seperate freezer. I had a 2nd refrigerator freezer at the last place
I lived... I did a lot more entertaining then, the 2nd unit was very
convenient. I think those ice machines, especially those through the
door gizmos greatly shorten the life of the unit. For two people I
don't need an ice machine, when I have company I stop by the local
convenience store for a big bag of Krystal Klear cubes for a couple
bucks. Using that through the door feature constantly cuts the life of
a unit at least by half, plus they make lousy stinky ice. If I needed
a lot of ice I'd buy one of those countertop ice machines, they are
very inexpensive and unlike refrigerator freezer ice machines they are
easy to keep clean, the ice they produce doesn't stink like from EVERY
refrigerator freezer ice machine. I fill my ice cube trays with RO
water or I buy Krystal Klear... the stinky ice from every residential
fridge has ruined my drink and made me want to gack... I don't accept
ice from fridge ice machines, it's worse than drinking water ladled
from their toilet.

On 9/22/2014 5:02 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> "Cheri" wrote:
>> "Steve Freides" wrote:
>>
>>> I think ours is 21 cubic feet. Old house, small kitchen, small
>>> refrigerator nook.
>>>
>>> OTOH, I must observe that, now that we try to eat better, we don't have as
>>> much in our refrigerator or freezer. The 'fridge here contains a lot of
>>> leftovers, sometimes things we cook in big batches on purpose, e.g., we
>>> usually buy sausage 3 lbs. at a time because they give you a $2/lb break
>>> on the price at the local WF if you do that. But especially my freezer
>>> doesn't have a whole lot in it these days.
>>
>> I don't have a big one either, old house, small refrigerator nook too, but
>> if I had the choice I would choose a larger one, especially the freezer
>> compartment because I like to stock up on sale too.
>>
> I found it more advantageous and costs less to have a 2nd refrigerator
> freezer. With the two freezers I don't need a stand alone freezer and
> just in case one unit goes on the fritz I don't need to worry about
> being majorly inconvenienced. I have a large top of the line GE
> Profile (23 cu ft) in the kitchen and a smaller (17 cu ft) no frills
> used refrigerator freezer in the basement that cost $100 from a local
> used appliance store, rarely opened so costs pennies to run and so far
> hasn't had a problem in 11 years. The 2nd fridge space is very handy,
> especially since I grow veggies. I would always recommend a second
> refrigerator freezer rather than a gigantic pricy eye candy unit plus
> seperate freezer. I had a 2nd refrigerator freezer at the last place
> I lived... I did a lot more entertaining then, the 2nd unit was very
> convenient. I think those ice machines, especially those through the
> door gizmos greatly shorten the life of the unit. For two people I
> don't need an ice machine, when I have company I stop by the local
> convenience store for a big bag of Krystal Klear cubes for a couple
> bucks. Using that through the door feature constantly cuts the life of
> a unit at least by half, plus they make lousy stinky ice. If I needed
> a lot of ice I'd buy one of those countertop ice machines, they are
> very inexpensive and unlike refrigerator freezer ice machines they are
> easy to keep clean, the ice they produce doesn't stink like from EVERY
> refrigerator freezer ice machine. I fill my ice cube trays with RO
> water or I buy Krystal Klear... the stinky ice from every residential
> fridge has ruined my drink and made me want to gack... I don't accept
> ice from fridge ice machines, it's worse than drinking water ladled
> from their toilet.

Sheldon, we use filtered water so the ice from this refrigerator tastes
just fine.

Becca

On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 08:41:28 -0500, Becca EmaNymton
> wrote:
snip
>
>Sheldon, we use filtered water so the ice from this refrigerator tastes
>just fine.
>
>Becca

that certainly helps. If the ice isn't changed out regularly, if the
freezer isn't cleaned regularly, the contents of the freezer pass on
the odors from the things stored in there. I can taste and smell it
too.
Janet US

On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 08:41:28 -0500, Becca EmaNymton
> wrote:

>On 9/22/2014 5:02 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> "Cheri" wrote:
>>> "Steve Freides" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think ours is 21 cubic feet. Old house, small kitchen, small
>>>> refrigerator nook.
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, I must observe that, now that we try to eat better, we don't have as
>>>> much in our refrigerator or freezer. The 'fridge here contains a lot of
>>>> leftovers, sometimes things we cook in big batches on purpose, e.g., we
>>>> usually buy sausage 3 lbs. at a time because they give you a $2/lb break
>>>> on the price at the local WF if you do that. But especially my freezer
>>>> doesn't have a whole lot in it these days.
>>>
>>> I don't have a big one either, old house, small refrigerator nook too, but
>>> if I had the choice I would choose a larger one, especially the freezer
>>> compartment because I like to stock up on sale too.
>>>
>> I found it more advantageous and costs less to have a 2nd refrigerator
>> freezer. With the two freezers I don't need a stand alone freezer and
>> just in case one unit goes on the fritz I don't need to worry about
>> being majorly inconvenienced. I have a large top of the line GE
>> Profile (23 cu ft) in the kitchen and a smaller (17 cu ft) no frills
>> used refrigerator freezer in the basement that cost $100 from a local
>> used appliance store, rarely opened so costs pennies to run and so far
>> hasn't had a problem in 11 years. The 2nd fridge space is very handy,
>> especially since I grow veggies. I would always recommend a second
>> refrigerator freezer rather than a gigantic pricy eye candy unit plus
>> seperate freezer. I had a 2nd refrigerator freezer at the last place
>> I lived... I did a lot more entertaining then, the 2nd unit was very
>> convenient. I think those ice machines, especially those through the
>> door gizmos greatly shorten the life of the unit. For two people I
>> don't need an ice machine, when I have company I stop by the local
>> convenience store for a big bag of Krystal Klear cubes for a couple
>> bucks. Using that through the door feature constantly cuts the life of
>> a unit at least by half, plus they make lousy stinky ice. If I needed
>> a lot of ice I'd buy one of those countertop ice machines, they are
>> very inexpensive and unlike refrigerator freezer ice machines they are
>> easy to keep clean, the ice they produce doesn't stink like from EVERY
>> refrigerator freezer ice machine. I fill my ice cube trays with RO
>> water or I buy Krystal Klear... the stinky ice from every residential
>> fridge has ruined my drink and made me want to gack... I don't accept
>> ice from fridge ice machines, it's worse than drinking water ladled
>> from their toilet.
>
>Sheldon, we use filtered water so the ice from this refrigerator tastes
>just fine.

Depends how water is filtered but I won't go into that here.

It's the ice sitting in the icemaker container picking up odors that I
find offensive... no one ever cleans those things, people think about
it but never actually do it... after two days in the freezer ice
stinks... with ice cube trays I can easily rotate my ice stock so I
always have only fresh ice. I see no big deal with filling a couple
of trays once a day, with two people how much ice can you use, and
when I have company I buy a bag of Krystal Klear for a couple bucks,
much nicer ice than any home freezer can make. I don't care for those
itty bitty cube those icemakers produce, they water down my drink.
Those in fridge ice makers also occupy a couple cu ft of freezer
space, not worth the loss of space to me. Also the automatic icemaker
places undue stress on the fridge that shortens its life... everytime
you operate tha tthrouhg th edoof gizmo teh compresssor comes on.
Those icemakers also have a way of dying a day after the warranty
expires. If my life style was such that I used a lot of ice I'd have
one of those portable ice makers, not any more expensive than the
fridge icemaker, makes more ice and faster than any ten people can
use, and doesn't pick up the stench of fridge odors... the freezer is
not isolated from the fridge, I don't like garlicky pasta sauce ice.
Only once did I buy a fridge with an icemaker, a very long time ago, I
hated that odiferous ice. This doesn't pick up fridge odors:
http://www.amazon.com/Avalon-Bay-AB-...ertop+icemaker

On 9/23/2014 9:41 AM, Becca EmaNymton wrote:
> On 9/22/2014 5:02 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:


>> bucks. Using that through the door feature constantly cuts the life of
>> a unit at least by half, plus they make lousy stinky ice. If I needed
>> a lot of ice I'd buy one of those countertop ice machines, they are
>> very inexpensive and unlike refrigerator freezer ice machines they are
>> easy to keep clean, the ice they produce doesn't stink like from EVERY
>> refrigerator freezer ice machine. I fill my ice cube trays with RO
>> water or I buy Krystal Klear... the stinky ice from every residential
>> fridge has ruined my drink and made me want to gack... I don't accept
>> ice from fridge ice machines, it's worse than drinking water ladled
>> from their toilet.
>
> Sheldon, we use filtered water so the ice from this refrigerator tastes
> just fine.
>
> Becca
>

Same here, but we use a fair amount of ice. Sheldon is partly right if
people use little ice and have onions in the fridge, it can pick up some
odors over time.

On 9/22/2014 3:07 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> I think ours is 21 cubic feet. Old house, small kitchen, small
>> refrigerator nook.
>>
>> OTOH, I must observe that, now that we try to eat better, we don't
>> have as much in our refrigerator or freezer. The 'fridge here
>> contains a lot of leftovers, sometimes things we cook in big batches
>> on purpose, e.g., we usually buy sausage 3 lbs. at a time because they
>> give you a $2/lb break on the price at the local WF if you do that.
>> But especially my freezer doesn't have a whole lot in it these days.
>>
>> -S-
>
> I don't have a big one either, old house, small refrigerator nook too,
> but if I had the choice I would choose a larger one, especially the
> freezer compartment because I like to stock up on sale too.
>
> Cheri
>
I was surprised I was able to fit my new one in the nook. It takes up
every bit of space there is, though. I have a cabinet over it and while
the old fridge left a few inches between the top of it and the bottom of
the fridge, this one is almost an exact fit. There is, however, enough
space to put a tiny fold up step stool between the fridge and the wall.

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 9/22/2014 3:07 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Steve Freides" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I think ours is 21 cubic feet. Old house, small kitchen, small
>>> refrigerator nook.
>>>
>>> OTOH, I must observe that, now that we try to eat better, we don't
>>> have as much in our refrigerator or freezer. The 'fridge here
>>> contains a lot of leftovers, sometimes things we cook in big batches
>>> on purpose, e.g., we usually buy sausage 3 lbs. at a time because they
>>> give you a $2/lb break on the price at the local WF if you do that.
>>> But especially my freezer doesn't have a whole lot in it these days.
>>>
>>> -S-
>>
>> I don't have a big one either, old house, small refrigerator nook too,
>> but if I had the choice I would choose a larger one, especially the
>> freezer compartment because I like to stock up on sale too.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
> I was surprised I was able to fit my new one in the nook. It takes up
> every bit of space there is, though. I have a cabinet over it and while
> the old fridge left a few inches between the top of it and the bottom of
> the fridge, this one is almost an exact fit. There is, however, enough
> space to put a tiny fold up step stool between the fridge and the wall.

Same when I got my new one. Almost touches the cupboard above and only
enough room on the side for a reaching tool and a fly swatter on the other
side. Not sure what I will do when this one dies. They don't seem to make
this size any more. The side by sides are all larger. And if I have to go
with a top freezer model, it will be way too small.

On Monday, September 22, 2014 7:55:12 AM UTC-10, Steve Freides wrote:
> Cheri wrote:
>
> > "George Leppla" > wrote in message
>
> > ...
>
> >> On 9/22/2014 10:51 AM, sf wrote:
>
> >>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:03:51 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> Use it in good health. I wish we had space for something like
>
> >>>> that but we've got counters and cabintes on both sides and above,
>
> >>>> and we only can fit a small one.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> They are made for 30 inch openings now! Not sure if they are
>
> >>> counter depth or what.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >> This unit is 36" wide, almost 70 " tall and 35 inches deep... but it
>
> >> is 28.5 cubic ft capacity. This is a monster and way bigger than
>
> >> most
>
> >> people would need unless they have a big family.
>
> >>
>
> >> They also make a 26" counter depth unit and we looked at that. I
>
> >> think it was 21 Cubic ft. We could have lived with that, but the way
>
> >> we buy, the bigger model was a better choice.... even if it does
>
> >> stick out. Side by side, the smaller one really looked too small.
>
> >>
>
> >> George L
>
> >
>
> > I'd sooner have a bigger one like you bought than a smaller one. My
>
> > MIL had a small one and it was just a pain to jockey for space. I
>
> > could easily live with it sticking out.
>
> >
>
> > Cheri
>
>
>
> I think ours is 21 cubic feet. Old house, small kitchen, small
>
> refrigerator nook.
>
>
>
> OTOH, I must observe that, now that we try to eat better, we don't have
>
> as much in our refrigerator or freezer. The 'fridge here contains a lot
>
> of leftovers, sometimes things we cook in big batches on purpose, e.g.,
>
> we usually buy sausage 3 lbs. at a time because they give you a $2/lb
>
> break on the price at the local WF if you do that. But especially my
>
> freezer doesn't have a whole lot in it these days.
>
>
>
> -S-

We bought a refrigerator with a lot of space that fit into an standard 31" width space. Super idea! When we put it in, we found out that our dishwasher door hit the door and would not open all the way. Oopsie. So that's how they get that extra room in there. :-)

dsi1 wrote:
> We bought a refrigerator with a lot of space that fit into an
> standard 31" width space. Super idea! When we put it in, we found out
> that our dishwasher door hit the door and would not open all the way.
> Oopsie. So that's how they get that extra room in there. :-)

We have a similar thing with our stove. In our old, smalll, kitchen,
the space for the stove is also small, and when our stove died, we got
what we thought was the right size replacement, but we have to open the
oven door to get to the contents of one of the drawers now - not great
but we live with it and just don't keep anything we need very often in
there.

-S-

"Steve Freides" > wrote in message
...

> I think ours is 21 cubic feet. Old house, small kitchen, small
> refrigerator nook.
>
> OTOH, I must observe that, now that we try to eat better, we don't have as
> much in our refrigerator or freezer. The 'fridge here contains a lot of
> leftovers, sometimes things we cook in big batches on purpose, e.g., we
> usually buy sausage 3 lbs. at a time because they give you a $2/lb break
> on the price at the local WF if you do that. But especially my freezer
> doesn't have a whole lot in it these days.

Mine is about 21 or 22. The problem is that I have one really big eater
here. I'll go to the store and the fridge will be packed full. Then by the
next day there will be lots of empty spots. I also wish I had dedicated
crisper drawers. I don't. There are two drawers but they are not humidity
controlled and the bottom one is particularly bad for produce.

On 9/22/2014 11:22 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "George Leppla" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/22/2014 10:51 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:03:51 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Use it in good health. I wish we had space for something like that but
>>>> we've got counters and cabintes on both sides and above, and we only
>>>> can
>>>> fit a small one.
>>>
>>> They are made for 30 inch openings now! Not sure if they are counter
>>> depth or what.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This unit is 36" wide, almost 70 " tall and 35 inches deep... but it
>> is 28.5 cubic ft capacity. This is a monster and way bigger than most
>> people would need unless they have a big family.
>>
>> They also make a 26" counter depth unit and we looked at that. I think
>> it was 21 Cubic ft. We could have lived with that, but the way we buy,
>> the bigger model was a better choice.... even if it does stick out.
>> Side by side, the smaller one really looked too small.
>>
>> George L
>
> I'd sooner have a bigger one like you bought than a smaller one. My MIL
> had a small one and it was just a pain to jockey for space. I could
> easily live with it sticking out.
>
> Cheri

What sticks out, are the door handles, which are prominent.

Becca

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "George Leppla" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/22/2014 10:51 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:03:51 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Use it in good health. I wish we had space for something like that but
>>>> we've got counters and cabintes on both sides and above, and we only
>>>> can
>>>> fit a small one.
>>>
>>> They are made for 30 inch openings now! Not sure if they are counter
>>> depth or what.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This unit is 36" wide, almost 70 " tall and 35 inches deep... but it is
>> 28.5 cubic ft capacity. This is a monster and way bigger than most
>> people would need unless they have a big family.
>>
>> They also make a 26" counter depth unit and we looked at that. I think it
>> was 21 Cubic ft. We could have lived with that, but the way we buy, the
>> bigger model was a better choice.... even if it does stick out. Side by
>> side, the smaller one really looked too small.
>>
>> George L
>
> I'd sooner have a bigger one like you bought than a smaller one. My MIL
> had a small one and it was just a pain to jockey for space. I could easily
> live with it sticking out.

Bigger is always better if it will fit. Mine is just too small which is why
we have two little fridges as well.

Julie Bove wrote:

> Bigger is always better if it will fit. Mine is just too small which
> is why we have two little fridges as well.

I don't agree. Bigger costs more to run, all other things being equal.
We really do try to eat a lot of fresh food - the small one we have
works fine, and we have both our adult-sized sons at home now, too, and
we're fine. My freezer is at least half empty.

-S-

On 9/23/2014 10:22 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Bigger is always better if it will fit. Mine is just too small which
>> is why we have two little fridges as well.
>
> I don't agree. Bigger costs more to run, all other things being equal.
> We really do try to eat a lot of fresh food - the small one we have
> works fine, and we have both our adult-sized sons at home now, too, and
> we're fine. My freezer is at least half empty.
>
> -S-
>
>

A bigger fridge in 2014 is cheaper to run than a small fridge in 1994.
It also depends on the proximity to the grocery store. If you live some
distance it is cheaper to run the bigger fridge that using a gallon of gas.

The rating on a 34 cu. ft. Samsung is 855 kw a year. In my local, that
is $145. The 18 cu. ft is 594/year or $44 savings. That translates to
about 80 miles of driving. How many trips to the grocery store is that?

That half full freezer is less efficient than a full one too.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/23/2014 10:22 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> Bigger is always better if it will fit. Mine is just too small
>>> which is why we have two little fridges as well.
>>
>> I don't agree. Bigger costs more to run, all other things being
>> equal. We really do try to eat a lot of fresh food - the small one
>> we have works fine, and we have both our adult-sized sons at home
>> now, too, and we're fine. My freezer is at least half empty.
>>
>> -S-
>>
>>
>
> A bigger fridge in 2014 is cheaper to run than a small fridge in 1994.
> It also depends on the proximity to the grocery store. If you live
> some distance it is cheaper to run the bigger fridge that using a
> gallon of gas.

Fair point. I have three groceries stores near me, and the further of
them is 8/10 of a mile away.

> The rating on a 34 cu. ft. Samsung is 855 kw a year. In my local,
> that is $145. The 18 cu. ft is 594/year or $44 savings. That
> translates
> to about 80 miles of driving. How many trips to the grocery store is
> that?
> That half full freezer is less efficient than a full one too.

Well, all I can say is that I keep in mine what I need. Sometimes it's
more full than others.

-S-

On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:10:33 -0400, "Steve Freides" >
wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 9/23/2014 10:22 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bigger is always better if it will fit. Mine is just too small
>>>> which is why we have two little fridges as well.
>>>
>>> I don't agree. Bigger costs more to run, all other things being
>>> equal. We really do try to eat a lot of fresh food - the small one
>>> we have works fine, and we have both our adult-sized sons at home
>>> now, too, and we're fine. My freezer is at least half empty.
>>>
>>> -S-
>>>
>>>
>>
>> A bigger fridge in 2014 is cheaper to run than a small fridge in 1994.
>> It also depends on the proximity to the grocery store. If you live
>> some distance it is cheaper to run the bigger fridge that using a
>> gallon of gas.
>
>Fair point. I have three groceries stores near me, and the further of
>them is 8/10 of a mile away.
>
>> The rating on a 34 cu. ft. Samsung is 855 kw a year. In my local,
>> that is $145. The 18 cu. ft is 594/year or $44 savings. That
>> translates
>> to about 80 miles of driving. How many trips to the grocery store is
>> that?
>> That half full freezer is less efficient than a full one too.
>
>Well, all I can say is that I keep in mine what I need. Sometimes it's
>more full than others.

Even though my second fridge is older it's in the basement and gets
opened maybe 10 times a week so it uses very little electricity. On
the other hand the kitchen fridge is much newer but gets opened many
times each day, so the comparison of power consumed for the basement
fridge is negligible. How a fridge is used has a lot more to do with
power consumed than age. I know people who have a huge fridge in
their kitchen but everytime it's opened they stand there perusing the
contents for like 30+ seconds and remove nothing... everyone in the
family does the same, their fridge is opened hundreds of times a
day... often they open the fridge, stare into it for a long time, then
just walk away without closing the door, slooowly closes on its own.
They have a lot of other energy wasting habits; lights on in every
room, basement and garage lights on 24/7, light their big stove oven
to bake one potato... I've seen lots of folks who live the same...
some people have their washer and drier going nonstop, all day every
day... I do all the laundry here, at most three loads a week, often
just two, in winter sometimes just one load a week... in warm weather
there's more dirty sweaty outdoor work but in winter there's no need
to change clothes but once a day. Since I had an on demand tankless
hot water heater installed my propane bill from April till now has
been $36, that's for hot water and cooking. Previously for the same
time period it was a full 20 times more, mostly for hot water. Anyone
who's still heating hot water in a tank is a fool. A tankless on
demand water heater may seem pricey but it will pay for itself in less
than two years.

On 9/23/2014 11:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>
> A bigger fridge in 2014 is cheaper to run than a small fridge in 1994.
> It also depends on the proximity to the grocery store. If you live some
> distance it is cheaper to run the bigger fridge that using a gallon of gas.
>
> The rating on a 34 cu. ft. Samsung is 855 kw a year. In my local, that
> is $145. The 18 cu. ft is 594/year or $44 savings. That translates to
> about 80 miles of driving. How many trips to the grocery store is that?
>
> That half full freezer is less efficient than a full one too.

I love the math you've done! For healthy people this is good advice. For
those of us who have trouble doing even regular grocery shopping, the
less shopping required the better.

That said, I'm going in for another back surgery on Monday. I hope this
one helps more than the last one.

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Cheryl

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
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> That said, I'm going in for another back surgery on Monday. I hope this
> one helps more than the last one.

I hope everything turns out well Cheryl. I've not had a bad back thankfully,
but I'm sure it must be very painful and limiting with mobility.

Cheri

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 00:46:43 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

>On 9/23/2014 11:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>
>> A bigger fridge in 2014 is cheaper to run than a small fridge in 1994.
>> It also depends on the proximity to the grocery store. If you live some
>> distance it is cheaper to run the bigger fridge that using a gallon of gas.
>>
>> The rating on a 34 cu. ft. Samsung is 855 kw a year. In my local, that
>> is $145. The 18 cu. ft is 594/year or $44 savings. That translates to
>> about 80 miles of driving. How many trips to the grocery store is that?
>>
>> That half full freezer is less efficient than a full one too.
>
>I love the math you've done! For healthy people this is good advice. For
>those of us who have trouble doing even regular grocery shopping, the
>less shopping required the better.
>
>That said, I'm going in for another back surgery on Monday. I hope this
>one helps more than the last one.

Good Luck! I had injections for herniated discs, I didn't think it
would work but with the third shots I woke up the next morning totally
pain free, that was five years ago. The Neurologist I went to did not
recommend surgery, said once you go down that path you'll be having
surgeries for the rest of your life and won't get much relief between.

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 00:46:43 -0400, Cheryl >
wrote:

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>
>That said, I'm going in for another back surgery on Monday. I hope this
>one helps more than the last one.

I'm sorry to hear about your surgery. I am hoping the surgery gives
you relief. Good Luck, Kiddo!
Janet US