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On 9/24/2014 10:49 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:29:36 -0400, Brooklyn1 > > wrote: > snip Most >> synagogues conduct services in English, the orthodox use Hebrew, no >> synagogues use Yiddish, never did... all the prayer books are written >> in Hebrew, never Yiddish. Hardly anyone in Israel speaks Yiddish, >> most Yiddish speakers have died off. > > In a way it's a shame. When I was growing up in my hometown, many > church's had German services and English services. I'm sure that was > true of many communities with a strong ethnic influence. We are > losing some of who we are as we become more homogenized. > Janet US > I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but I can remember when a lot of the mass was in Latin. I have no idea if that is continued these days. Shame if it is. -- ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶ Cheryl |
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On 9/25/2014 10:49 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/25/2014 8:38 AM, Janet Wilder wrote: >> On 9/24/2014 8:02 PM, sf wrote: >>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 19:36:09 -0500, Janet Wilder > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm blushing from the complement. Seriously, I'm no super hero, I'm >>>> just too stupid to give up. >>> >>> I meant it! >>>> >>>> BTW, my holiday dinner tasted wonderful. It was very lonely, though. >>> >>> Glad to hear the dinner turned out well... hopefully you'll feel up to >>> having a few people over or attending dinner with friends next year. >>> >>> >> Next year, G-d willing, I intend to celebrate the New Year on a cruise >> ship. >> > Good plan! ![]() > reunion yet? > > Jill I took a suitcase out of the closet. I decided that I'll wear something I already have, so I will start trying clothes on this weekend. Next week, I'll start checking the weather reports. If it's in the sixties, I'll need jackets. Can't do cold weather any more. I'll also have to make more cookies for the radiation techs. I spoiled them with the last batch, but it's my way of thanking them for their care and concern. I'm also getting a little excited about my trip to Europe in early November. My son and his wife and little girl are coming down for Thanksgiving and my 17 year-old granddaughter is coming for Christmas break. It will be so nice to have someone to cook for again. I am also planning to have a big barbecue for all of the people who helped me by driving me, calling me and other things as my way of thanking them. I'll probably do that in early December. My friend, Dyan, who has an annual Chanukah party at my house where I do the brisket and latkes, someone brings salad, someone brings dessert and everyone brings wine, has informed me that we are having the party this year. It will be 12/20. I just want to be busy. -- From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas |
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On 9/25/2014 11:15 AM, graham wrote:
> On 25/09/2014 7:22 AM, Boron Elgar wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 07:43:57 -0500, Janet Wilder > >> wrote: >> >> >>> Many of the Haredi in Israel (Ultra-Orthodox) speak Yiddish. >>> >>> Yiddish is not dead yet. More people speak it as an everyday language >>> than those who speak Latin. :-) >> >> >> There are Chasids within the office complex where I work. I hear >> Yiddish every day. >> >> Many year ago when I still lived in the city, my aunt and cousin >> were visiting and I took them down to Orchard Street (nothing like the >> gentrified area it is these days) and we wandered into a store to >> shop. Bargaining was still alive and well down there. >> >> All three of us are fair-skinned and blue eyed, with me a blonde and >> my cousin with light hair. None of the three of us would be considered >> "Jewish looking". >> >> My aunt took an interest in a very nice sweater and as she looked, we >> heard the two men behind the counter (kippas & tsitsis) discussing the >> lowest price they'd let the sweater go for. We three women exchanged >> knowing glances, haggled a bit for fun, made the purchase at that >> lowest price, and as we were leaving, all three of us switched to >> Yiddish among ourselves as we walked out. Then we looked back at the >> two surprised men behind the counter. >> >> Boron >> > At an "upgrading" high school in this city, some Chinese students were > talking among themselves about what they would like to do to the > stunning, typically Scandinavian blonde teacher. She turned around and > let fly in fluent Cantonese. She never had any discipline problems after > that. > Graham I would love to learn a Chinese language. I regularly have my nails done and the girls are all Chinese, or Korean in the case of a couple of them. Most of them chitty chat on and on to each other in Chinese and I'd so love to know what they are saying. -- ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶ Cheryl |
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On 9/25/2014 2:41 PM, Gary wrote:
> sf wrote: >> >> Janet Wilder wrote: >> >>> Next year, G-d willing, I intend to celebrate the New Year on a cruise ship. >> >> I like your plan! My grandmother always used the phrase "G-d willing" >> too. > > I've never heard anyone say "G-d willing." > I have heard, "God willing" though. > I was raised as an Orthodox Jew and we never pronounce the name of G-d (except in prayers and when reading the Torah to the congregation), nor do we spell it out when writing. That's why you see the dash. Since I was brought up this way, I find it difficult the change old habits. -- From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas |
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On 9/25/2014 8:58 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> On 9/24/2014 10:49 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote: > >> On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:29:36 -0400, Brooklyn1 >> > wrote: > >> snip Most >>> synagogues conduct services in English, the orthodox use Hebrew, no >>> synagogues use Yiddish, never did... all the prayer books are written >>> in Hebrew, never Yiddish. Hardly anyone in Israel speaks Yiddish, >>> most Yiddish speakers have died off. >> >> In a way it's a shame. When I was growing up in my hometown, many >> church's had German services and English services. I'm sure that was >> true of many communities with a strong ethnic influence. We are >> losing some of who we are as we become more homogenized. >> Janet US >> > I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but I can remember when a lot of > the mass was in Latin. I have no idea if that is continued these days. > Shame if it is. > Correction, shame if it *isn't*. -- ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶ Cheryl |
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![]() "Cheryl" > wrote in message eb.com... > I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but I can remember when a lot of the > mass was in Latin. I have no idea if that is continued these days. Shame > if it is. My friend had trouble finding a church that would marry her as she didn't attend church and had a child out of wedlock. She finally found one to do it but they did a Latin mass followed by a regular one and then the service. We were all looking forward to the reception afterwards as her husband is a chef. All we could think about was the food and I didn't think that the service would ever get over. Odd in remembering it, the only thing I can remember of the food was something on a Ritz cracker with a very thin piece of cucumber cut in a decorative fashion. I can't even remember anything else on it or anything else about the reception except that it was at somebody's home (his mom's?) in Sahale which is a fancy gated community. I do remember the wedding though and how I thought we'd never get through it. My friend was stuck kneeling at the altar for what seemed like forever. She had a lace dress on and high heels and she was nervous. Her feet kept shaking and getting caught in the lace. So I kept fixating on that and the never ending masses. Time frame on that though was late 1970's. I have gone to church with my inlaws many times and aside from a few words here and there, nothing was in Latin. |
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![]() "Cheryl" > wrote in message eb.com... > On 9/25/2014 11:15 AM, graham wrote: >> On 25/09/2014 7:22 AM, Boron Elgar wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 07:43:57 -0500, Janet Wilder > >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Many of the Haredi in Israel (Ultra-Orthodox) speak Yiddish. >>>> >>>> Yiddish is not dead yet. More people speak it as an everyday language >>>> than those who speak Latin. :-) >>> >>> >>> There are Chasids within the office complex where I work. I hear >>> Yiddish every day. >>> >>> Many year ago when I still lived in the city, my aunt and cousin >>> were visiting and I took them down to Orchard Street (nothing like the >>> gentrified area it is these days) and we wandered into a store to >>> shop. Bargaining was still alive and well down there. >>> >>> All three of us are fair-skinned and blue eyed, with me a blonde and >>> my cousin with light hair. None of the three of us would be considered >>> "Jewish looking". >>> >>> My aunt took an interest in a very nice sweater and as she looked, we >>> heard the two men behind the counter (kippas & tsitsis) discussing the >>> lowest price they'd let the sweater go for. We three women exchanged >>> knowing glances, haggled a bit for fun, made the purchase at that >>> lowest price, and as we were leaving, all three of us switched to >>> Yiddish among ourselves as we walked out. Then we looked back at the >>> two surprised men behind the counter. >>> >>> Boron >>> >> At an "upgrading" high school in this city, some Chinese students were >> talking among themselves about what they would like to do to the >> stunning, typically Scandinavian blonde teacher. She turned around and >> let fly in fluent Cantonese. She never had any discipline problems after >> that. >> Graham > > I would love to learn a Chinese language. I regularly have my nails done > and the girls are all Chinese, or Korean in the case of a couple of them. > Most of them chitty chat on and on to each other in Chinese and I'd so > love to know what they are saying. Here they are mostly Korean and it is very annoying, especially when they are laughing at something. I always get the feeling that they are laughing at a customer. |
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On 25/09/2014 7:01 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>> >>> Boron >>> >> At an "upgrading" high school in this city, some Chinese students were >> talking among themselves about what they would like to do to the >> stunning, typically Scandinavian blonde teacher. She turned around and >> let fly in fluent Cantonese. She never had any discipline problems after >> that. >> Graham > > I would love to learn a Chinese language. I regularly have my nails done > and the girls are all Chinese, or Korean in the case of a couple of > them. Most of them chitty chat on and on to each other in Chinese and > I'd so love to know what they are saying. > I have just remembered another one. The son of a good friend lives and works in Japan and is fluent in Japanese. He was on a train with a Japanese family and the 2 children were poking fun at him not realising that he understood every word. As the family got ready to exit at the next stop, he told the parents that they ought to teach their kids good manners. Graham |
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On 9/24/2014 10:49 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> > In a way it's a shame. When I was growing up in my hometown, many > church's had German services and English services. I'm sure that was > true of many communities with a strong ethnic influence. We are > losing some of who we are as we become more homogenized. > Janet US > In Philadelphia, near my grandmother's house there was the Polish Church, Irish Church, and German Church in two blocks. I did not know they had real names (Like Nativity) until I was in my teens, |
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On 9/25/2014 9:17 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I do remember the wedding though and how I thought we'd never get > through it. My friend was stuck kneeling at the altar for what seemed > like forever. She had a lace dress on and high heels and she was > nervous. Her feet kept shaking and getting caught in the lace. So I > kept fixating on that and the never ending masses. > > Time frame on that though was late 1970's. > > I have gone to church with my inlaws many times and aside from a few > words here and there, nothing was in Latin. I was married in a Catholic church by a priest in 1979 and they used to do it both ways - a full mass or just a marriage ceremony. I've been to both, so I know what you mean. Mine was just a marriage ceremony. -- ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶ Cheryl |
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On 9/25/2014 9:36 PM, graham wrote:
> On 25/09/2014 7:01 PM, Cheryl wrote: > >>>> >>>> Boron >>>> >>> At an "upgrading" high school in this city, some Chinese students were >>> talking among themselves about what they would like to do to the >>> stunning, typically Scandinavian blonde teacher. She turned around and >>> let fly in fluent Cantonese. She never had any discipline problems after >>> that. >>> Graham >> >> I would love to learn a Chinese language. I regularly have my nails done >> and the girls are all Chinese, or Korean in the case of a couple of >> them. Most of them chitty chat on and on to each other in Chinese and >> I'd so love to know what they are saying. >> > I have just remembered another one. > The son of a good friend lives and works in Japan and is fluent in > Japanese. He was on a train with a Japanese family and the 2 children > were poking fun at him not realising that he understood every word. As > the family got ready to exit at the next stop, he told the parents that > they ought to teach their kids good manners. > Graham > LOL! I'll bet they were a little surprised! heehee -- ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶ Cheryl |
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On 9/25/2014 9:08 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but I can remember when a lot of >> the mass was in Latin. I have no idea if that is continued these days. >> Shame if it is. >> > Correction, shame if it *isn't*. > > When it was in Latin I did not understand a word of it, nor did many people. I just sat and daydreamed and hoped to be out soon. I never did appreciate the ritual of it all. |
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![]() "Cheryl" > wrote in message eb.com... > On 9/25/2014 9:17 PM, Julie Bove wrote: > >> I do remember the wedding though and how I thought we'd never get >> through it. My friend was stuck kneeling at the altar for what seemed >> like forever. She had a lace dress on and high heels and she was >> nervous. Her feet kept shaking and getting caught in the lace. So I >> kept fixating on that and the never ending masses. >> >> Time frame on that though was late 1970's. >> >> I have gone to church with my inlaws many times and aside from a few >> words here and there, nothing was in Latin. > > I was married in a Catholic church by a priest in 1979 and they used to do > it both ways - a full mass or just a marriage ceremony. I've been to > both, so I know what you mean. Mine was just a marriage ceremony. My friend wasn't given a choice. If she got married there it was their way or none. |
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On 9/25/2014 9:03 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 9/25/2014 2:41 PM, Gary wrote: >> sf wrote: >>> >>> Janet Wilder wrote: >>> >>>> Next year, G-d willing, I intend to celebrate the New Year on a >>>> cruise ship. >>> >>> I like your plan! My grandmother always used the phrase "G-d willing" >>> too. >> >> I've never heard anyone say "G-d willing." >> I have heard, "God willing" though. >> > > I was raised as an Orthodox Jew and we never pronounce the name of G-d > (except in prayers and when reading the Torah to the congregation), nor > do we spell it out when writing. That's why you see the dash. > > Since I was brought up this way, I find it difficult the change old habits. > Interesting! I remember being brought up where you bowed your head when you spoke the word God or Jesus, and He or Him or His was always capitalized. -- ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶ Cheryl |
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![]() "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 9/25/2014 9:08 PM, Cheryl wrote: > >>> I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but I can remember when a lot of >>> the mass was in Latin. I have no idea if that is continued these days. >>> Shame if it is. >>> >> Correction, shame if it *isn't*. >> >> > > When it was in Latin I did not understand a word of it, nor did many > people. I just sat and daydreamed and hoped to be out soon. I never did > appreciate the ritual of it all. My dad actually took Latin in college. His mom wanted him to be a dentist like his dad. I guess maybe that was why. Instead he was a dental hygienist for the Air Force which was enough to tell him that he didn't want to work in people's mouths. At any rate, he sometimes spoke Latin at home so we did know a few words and phrases. |
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 21:38:59 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 9/24/2014 10:49 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote: > >> >> In a way it's a shame. When I was growing up in my hometown, many >> church's had German services and English services. I'm sure that was >> true of many communities with a strong ethnic influence. We are >> losing some of who we are as we become more homogenized. >> Janet US >> > >In Philadelphia, near my grandmother's house there was the Polish >Church, Irish Church, and German Church in two blocks. I did not know >they had real names (Like Nativity) until I was in my teens, That made me smile. Janet US |
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![]() "Cheryl" > wrote in message eb.com... > On 9/24/2014 10:49 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote: > >> On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:29:36 -0400, Brooklyn1 >> > wrote: > >> snip Most >>> synagogues conduct services in English, the orthodox use Hebrew, no >>> synagogues use Yiddish, never did... all the prayer books are written >>> in Hebrew, never Yiddish. Hardly anyone in Israel speaks Yiddish, >>> most Yiddish speakers have died off. >> >> In a way it's a shame. When I was growing up in my hometown, many >> church's had German services and English services. I'm sure that was >> true of many communities with a strong ethnic influence. We are >> losing some of who we are as we become more homogenized. >> Janet US >> > I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but I can remember when a lot of the > mass was in Latin. I have no idea if that is continued these days. Shame > if it is. I don't know either but when I was girl, I was in the church choir and sang responses in Latin. Thanks for the memory ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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![]() "graham" > wrote in message ... > On 25/09/2014 7:01 PM, Cheryl wrote: > >>>> >>>> Boron >>>> >>> At an "upgrading" high school in this city, some Chinese students were >>> talking among themselves about what they would like to do to the >>> stunning, typically Scandinavian blonde teacher. She turned around and >>> let fly in fluent Cantonese. She never had any discipline problems after >>> that. >>> Graham >> >> I would love to learn a Chinese language. I regularly have my nails done >> and the girls are all Chinese, or Korean in the case of a couple of >> them. Most of them chitty chat on and on to each other in Chinese and >> I'd so love to know what they are saying. >> > I have just remembered another one. > The son of a good friend lives and works in Japan and is fluent in > Japanese. He was on a train with a Japanese family and the 2 children were > poking fun at him not realising that he understood every word. As the > family got ready to exit at the next stop, he told the parents that they > ought to teach their kids good manners. My eldest granddaughter is learning Cantonese in preparation for 2 years in Hong Kong ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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Janet Wilder wrote:
>Boron Elgar wrote: >> Janet Wilder wrote: >> >>> Many of the Haredi in Israel (Ultra-Orthodox) speak Yiddish. >>> >>> Yiddish is not dead yet. More people speak it as an everyday language >>> than those who speak Latin. :-) >> >> >> There are Chasids within the office complex where I work. I hear >> Yiddish every day. >> >> Many year ago when I still lived in the city, my aunt and cousin >> were visiting and I took them down to Orchard Street (nothing like the >> gentrified area it is these days) and we wandered into a store to >> shop. Bargaining was still alive and well down there. >> >> All three of us are fair-skinned and blue eyed, with me a blonde and >> my cousin with light hair. None of the three of us would be considered >> "Jewish looking". >> >> My aunt took an interest in a very nice sweater and as she looked, we >> heard the two men behind the counter (kippas & tsitsis) discussing the >> lowest price they'd let the sweater go for. We three women exchanged >> knowing glances, haggled a bit for fun, made the purchase at that >> lowest price, and as we were leaving, all three of us switched to >> Yiddish among ourselves as we walked out. Then we looked back at the >> two surprised men behind the counter. >> >> Boron > >Love it! NYC being a melting pot the same story occurs several times every day, and with every language. |
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:14:34 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote: > > > "Cheryl" > wrote in message > eb.com... > >> > > I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but I can remember when a lot of the > > mass was in Latin. I have no idea if that is continued these days. Shame > > if it is. > > I don't know either but when I was girl, I was in the church choir and sang > responses in Latin. > > Thanks for the memory ![]() Church services haven't been conducted in Latin for decades. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On 9/25/2014 8:01 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> I would love to learn a Chinese language. I regularly have my nails done > and the girls are all Chinese, or Korean in the case of a couple of > them. Most of them chitty chat on and on to each other in Chinese and > I'd so love to know what they are saying. The nail techs here speak Vietnamese, but there are a few who speak Cambodian. My Vietnamese friend has a daughter who has blonde hair and blue eyes, she was getting a manicure and a pedicure and she could hear the nail techs talking about her, they had no idea she could speak Vietnamese. Becca |
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On 2014-09-26 12:07 PM, Becca EmaNymton wrote:
> On 9/25/2014 8:01 PM, Cheryl wrote: > >> I would love to learn a Chinese language. I regularly have my nails done >> and the girls are all Chinese, or Korean in the case of a couple of >> them. Most of them chitty chat on and on to each other in Chinese and >> I'd so love to know what they are saying. > > The nail techs here speak Vietnamese, but there are a few who speak > Cambodian. My Vietnamese friend has a daughter who has blonde hair and > blue eyes, she was getting a manicure and a pedicure and she could hear > the nail techs talking about her, they had no idea she could speak > Vietnamese. > LOL thinking about a Seinfeld episode where the Korean girls at the nail salon were making fun of her so she got George's father to come in and translate for her. |
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On 9/26/2014 12:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-09-26 12:07 PM, Becca EmaNymton wrote: >> On 9/25/2014 8:01 PM, Cheryl wrote: >> >>> I would love to learn a Chinese language. I regularly have my nails done >>> and the girls are all Chinese, or Korean in the case of a couple of >>> them. Most of them chitty chat on and on to each other in Chinese and >>> I'd so love to know what they are saying. >> >> The nail techs here speak Vietnamese, but there are a few who speak >> Cambodian. My Vietnamese friend has a daughter who has blonde hair and >> blue eyes, she was getting a manicure and a pedicure and she could hear >> the nail techs talking about her, they had no idea she could speak >> Vietnamese. >> > > LOL thinking about a Seinfeld episode where the Korean girls at the nail > salon were making fun of her so she got George's father to come in and > translate for her. Seinfeld was a funny show. lol Becca |
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On 26/09/2014 2:09 PM, Becca EmaNymton wrote:
> On 9/26/2014 12:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >> On 2014-09-26 12:07 PM, Becca EmaNymton wrote: >>> On 9/25/2014 8:01 PM, Cheryl wrote: >>> >>>> I would love to learn a Chinese language. I regularly have my nails >>>> done >>>> and the girls are all Chinese, or Korean in the case of a couple of >>>> them. Most of them chitty chat on and on to each other in Chinese and >>>> I'd so love to know what they are saying. >>> >>> The nail techs here speak Vietnamese, but there are a few who speak >>> Cambodian. My Vietnamese friend has a daughter who has blonde hair and >>> blue eyes, she was getting a manicure and a pedicure and she could hear >>> the nail techs talking about her, they had no idea she could speak >>> Vietnamese. >>> >> >> LOL thinking about a Seinfeld episode where the Korean girls at the nail >> salon were making fun of her so she got George's father to come in and >> translate for her. > > Seinfeld was a funny show. lol > But Seinfeld himself wasn't! Graham |
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On 9/25/2014 8:18 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Cheryl" > wrote in message >> I would love to learn a Chinese language. I regularly have my nails >> done and the girls are all Chinese, or Korean in the case of a couple >> of them. Most of them chitty chat on and on to each other in Chinese >> and I'd so love to know what they are saying. > > Here they are mostly Korean and it is very annoying, especially when > they are laughing at something. I always get the feeling that they are > laughing at a customer. We have the Asian "nail parlors" around here, too. I think most of them are Vietnamese. The ones that I tried were cheap, but not up to my standards of cleanliness. I hate how the techs wear a mask and let the customers breath the toxic fumes. I have been going to a full-service salon where I have an excellent nail technician. Each instrument is removed from a sealed bag. I have seen the autoclave and the instruments being cleaned in it. There are no strong fumes, like in the Asian places, either. Of course all the women who work there chatter to each other in Spanish, but I am often surprised by understanding them. When I was very sick a month or so ago, my nail tech came to my house before the salon opened to do my nails for me. Go find that some place else. -- From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas |
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On 2014-09-26 4:47 PM, graham wrote:
> On 26/09/2014 2:09 PM, Becca EmaNymton wrote: >> On 9/26/2014 12:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >>> On 2014-09-26 12:07 PM, Becca EmaNymton wrote: >>>> On 9/25/2014 8:01 PM, Cheryl wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would love to learn a Chinese language. I regularly have my nails >>>>> done >>>>> and the girls are all Chinese, or Korean in the case of a couple of >>>>> them. Most of them chitty chat on and on to each other in Chinese and >>>>> I'd so love to know what they are saying. >>>> >>>> The nail techs here speak Vietnamese, but there are a few who speak >>>> Cambodian. My Vietnamese friend has a daughter who has blonde hair and >>>> blue eyes, she was getting a manicure and a pedicure and she could hear >>>> the nail techs talking about her, they had no idea she could speak >>>> Vietnamese. >>>> >>> >>> LOL thinking about a Seinfeld episode where the Korean girls at the nail >>> salon were making fun of her so she got George's father to come in and >>> translate for her. >> >> Seinfeld was a funny show. lol >> > But Seinfeld himself wasn't! > Actually he was. ... like as a fer instance, being unable to kiss a girl after he had dropped her tooth brush in the toilet. |
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On 9/26/2014 10:19 AM, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:14:34 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >> "Cheryl" > wrote in message >> eb.com... >>>> >>> I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but I can remember when a lot of the >>> mass was in Latin. I have no idea if that is continued these days. Shame >>> if it is. >> >> I don't know either but when I was girl, I was in the church choir and sang >> responses in Latin. >> >> Thanks for the memory ![]() > > Church services haven't been conducted in Latin for decades. > Yeah, there was this thing called Vatican II in the 1960s. It resulted in a lot of progressive changes in the church, including no longer doing the mass in Latin. The conservative faction in the Church has worked to retrench from the Vatican II progressivism, but the Latin issue is pretty much dead by now, except for those who are very attached to pomp and symbolism. |
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On Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:03:26 PM UTC-4, Janet Wilder wrote:
> > I was raised as an Orthodox Jew and we never pronounce the name of G-d > (except in prayers and when reading the Torah to the congregation), nor > do we spell it out when writing. That's why you see the dash. > > Since I was brought up this way, I find it difficult the change old habits. "G-d willing" is a very Jewish phrase, less used today than when I was a kid. The reason for the spelling is that the name of G-d is sacred and hence must never be thrown away or destroyed. (I believe there is a major ceremony, including burial, if the true written name is discarded.) Hence not writing it down allows it to be used in everyday communication. Janet, let me add my best wishes to everyone else's for your future. Next new year I expect you to be make gefilte fish. http://www.richardfisher.com |
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On 10/2/2014 10:35 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:03:26 PM UTC-4, Janet Wilder wrote: >> >> I was raised as an Orthodox Jew and we never pronounce the name of G-d >> (except in prayers and when reading the Torah to the congregation), nor >> do we spell it out when writing. That's why you see the dash. >> >> Since I was brought up this way, I find it difficult the change old habits. > > "G-d willing" is a very Jewish phrase, less used today than > when I was a kid. The reason for the spelling is that the > name of G-d is sacred and hence must never be thrown away or > destroyed. (I believe there is a major ceremony, including > burial, if the true written name is discarded.) Hence not > writing it down allows it to be used in everyday > communication. > > Janet, let me add my best wishes to everyone else's for your > future. Next new year I expect you to be make gefilte fish. > > http://www.richardfisher.com > Thanks for the good wishes. I have made gefilte fish many times. Next year I hope to be on a transatlantic cruise from the UK to Boston, G-d willing. :-) -- From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas |
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Helpful person wrote:
> > "G-d willing" is a very Jewish phrase, less used today than > when I was a kid. The reason for the spelling is that the > name of G-d is sacred and hence must never be thrown away or > destroyed. (I believe there is a major ceremony, including > burial, if the true written name is discarded.) Hence not > writing it down allows it to be used in everyday > communication. Really? That all is pretty darn weird if you can possibly think about it objectively. G. |
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On 10/2/2014 5:35 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:03:26 PM UTC-4, Janet Wilder wrote: >> >> I was raised as an Orthodox Jew and we never pronounce the name of G-d >> (except in prayers and when reading the Torah to the congregation), nor >> do we spell it out when writing. That's why you see the dash. >> >> Since I was brought up this way, I find it difficult the change old habits. > > "G-d willing" is a very Jewish phrase, less used today than > when I was a kid. The reason for the spelling is that the > name of G-d is sacred and hence must never be thrown away or > destroyed. (I believe there is a major ceremony, including > burial, if the true written name is discarded.) Hence not > writing it down allows it to be used in everyday > communication. > > Janet, let me add my best wishes to everyone else's for your > future. Next new year I expect you to be make gefilte fish. > > http://www.richardfisher.com > I don't get it. "God" is not the name of God any more than "Helpful Person" is your name. I know the name of God and it sure ain't God. Please use all your powers of helpfulness to make me see the light. |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 17:34:27 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>Helpful person wrote: >> >> "G-d willing" is a very Jewish phrase, less used today than >> when I was a kid. The reason for the spelling is that the >> name of G-d is sacred and hence must never be thrown away or >> destroyed. (I believe there is a major ceremony, including >> burial, if the true written name is discarded.) Hence not >> writing it down allows it to be used in everyday >> communication. > >Really? That all is pretty darn weird if you can possibly think about >it objectively. > >G. There is nothing objective about any religion. |
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![]() "dsi1" > wrote in message ... > On 10/2/2014 5:35 AM, Helpful person wrote: >> On Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:03:26 PM UTC-4, Janet Wilder wrote: >>> >>> I was raised as an Orthodox Jew and we never pronounce the name of G-d >>> (except in prayers and when reading the Torah to the congregation), nor >>> do we spell it out when writing. That's why you see the dash. >>> >>> Since I was brought up this way, I find it difficult the change old >>> habits. >> >> "G-d willing" is a very Jewish phrase, less used today than >> when I was a kid. The reason for the spelling is that the >> name of G-d is sacred and hence must never be thrown away or >> destroyed. (I believe there is a major ceremony, including >> burial, if the true written name is discarded.) Hence not >> writing it down allows it to be used in everyday >> communication. >> >> Janet, let me add my best wishes to everyone else's for your >> future. Next new year I expect you to be make gefilte fish. >> >> http://www.richardfisher.com >> > > I don't get it. "God" is not the name of God any more than "Helpful > Person" is your name. I know the name of God and it sure ain't God. Please > use all your powers of helpfulness to make me see the light. There are a lot of things about various religions that I just don't get. |
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On 10/2/2014 12:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > There are a lot of things about various religions that I just don't get. I reckon God likes it that way. :-) |
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![]() "dsi1" > wrote in message ... > On 10/2/2014 5:35 AM, Helpful person wrote: >> On Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:03:26 PM UTC-4, Janet Wilder wrote: >>> >>> I was raised as an Orthodox Jew and we never pronounce the name of G-d >>> (except in prayers and when reading the Torah to the congregation), nor >>> do we spell it out when writing. That's why you see the dash. >>> >>> Since I was brought up this way, I find it difficult the change old >>> habits. >> >> "G-d willing" is a very Jewish phrase, less used today than >> when I was a kid. The reason for the spelling is that the >> name of G-d is sacred and hence must never be thrown away or >> destroyed. (I believe there is a major ceremony, including >> burial, if the true written name is discarded.) Hence not >> writing it down allows it to be used in everyday >> communication. >> >> Janet, let me add my best wishes to everyone else's for your >> future. Next new year I expect you to be make gefilte fish. >> >> http://www.richardfisher.com >> > > I don't get it. "God" is not the name of God any more than "Helpful > Person" is your name. I know the name of God and it sure ain't God. Please > use all your powers of helpfulness to make me see the light. Fair point ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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